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in the sixth grade, i was called that by ms. boil. william, you are impertinent. and i didn't learn what that meant until i was in the college. thank you for watching. please remember, the spin stops here. definitely looking out for you. . i'm megyn kelly. welcome to "hannity." this is a fox news alert. a gunman opened fire earlier today. at least four people are dead including the shooter and 14 are wounded. some critically. many of the victims are still in surgery at this hour as a massive investigation into exactly what has happened now ramps up as we await that press conference. let's go out to jennifer griffin who is in washington tonight and she's been gathering details since the story broke. jennifer? >> reporter: sean, we understand that the all clear has been given at ft. hood so life is returning to normal after that shelter in place order had been in effect for almost five hours.
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when we first heard that shots had been fired, we talked to sources on the ground at ft. hood and they told us that the shots were fired outside the first medical brigade unit and that the gunman eventually was cornered in an area by the motor pool. he eventually, according to an internal justice department memo, reportedly took his own life after shooting 14 individuals. four people are dead, including the gunman tonight. according to federal law enforcement officials. we also understand from hospital officials that six individuals have been brought to their hospital at scott & white memorial hospital. they are -- some of them are in surgery. some had been shot in the neck, in the abdomen, in the extremities. so a very, very vicious and violent scene at ft. hood earlier tonight when the shooting occurred. sean? >> jennifer, thank you so much. as we now move forward and check in, joining us from the phone
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from ft. hood is a woman who r0 recorded a video. she lives at the post with her husband who is an army staff sergeant. fiona, our thoughts go out to everyone at ft. hood, not once, not twice, tell us what you are doing. >> this is steven. the sirens went off earlier this afternoon around 16:30. our son was playing outside. we heard the sirens going off. we called him inside, locked all of the doors, shut all of the windows, blinds, kept away from the window and monitored the tv. got phone calls and text messages from our unit just for accountability purposes to see if we were all good to go and that was really about it, sir. >> do you know any of the people whose names have been mentioned here and do you know anything about the shooter who has been identified? >> no, sir. i don't know who the soldier is,
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what his situation was at all, sir. >> you don't. our thoughts and prayers go out to everyone at ft. hood tonight. what an unbelievable situation. not the first time. a second time. we're awaiting a press conference, anywhere between 10 and 14 minutes from now. joining me from washington is somebody who knows the ft. hood area very well. that's former homicide detective, friend of the show, attorney, ted williams. ted, thank you. you know the area. they've gone through this not once, now twice. >> hi, sean. what a tragedy. i had two tours of duty at ft. hood, texas. it's one of the largest bases in the united states and it's such a tragedy and the question is why? why, sean? they are clearly now looking to try to determine a motive. you know, these are men and women who have served courageously in war zones and they have now come back and some of them are innocently dead at the hands of one of their own.
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this is such a tragic incident, sean. >> what do we know about the fact that even those people that have served so well that they have this issue involving carry permits for those people on base? to me, that's got to be a big issue. these are people issued weapons by the military that have used them in war and people are in a situation there that they can't defend themselves? >> well, you know, when you use the word carry, try to remember, you have one of the largest bases, as i said, in the united states, and you have over 10,000 civilian employees going through that base on a daily basis as well as military personnel and they have stickers on their car and they are waved in. and so, you know, it's so easy to get a gun on that base, unfortunately, and there's really no way, unless you screened everybody and that would take hours upon hours and that just cannot be done, to be
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honest with you, sean. >> we all know the motivation -- i was concerned when the official position became this was an incident of workplace violence when we know that the shooter in that instance was saying. [ speaking in foreign language ] before he fired a weapon. >> you're exactly correct. let's not call this major hasan. this was hasan the coward. he shot 13 of our best and brightest. and this is a man who wounded over 32. he was hasan the coward, hasan the terrorist, as far as i am concerned. i will never consider this man as a major in the united states army. so i think that what we have to do -- what they are doing right now to law enforcement authorities, sean, is they are looking into every aspect of this man's life to try to determine what was the motive? the motive that would make him go on that base and to shoot and kill some of his fellow
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soldiers. >> we're awaiting the press conference. our hope and prayers is that we get more information about the motive was. regardless of which, those families and many families getting bad news tonight, as four are dead and many more wounded. 14 are wounded. ted, thank you for being with us. be on stand by. we welcome into the studio our panel is with us tonight and k.t. mcfarland, a former fbi special agent and former navy s.e.a.l. and also a foxnews.com reporter. some of the news covered tonight, almost immediately people go, it is not terrorism. and i'm not like -- i'm not saying it is. i'm saying we don't know. why do people -- there is this obsession after the last incident where it was terrorism to say that it is something that it is not. it infuriates me and the reporting says at this point it
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is not is way too early to tell, isn't it? >> it's way to early to tell. what's the take away from that? i guess it's not terrorism, i'm not going to worry about it? that becomes the narrative. even if later it's found to be untrue. we don't know. but let's talk about what we do know. we have american men and women coming back from combat. many, many tours. our service chiefs have warned us about this for years. we are not giving them the adequate treatment that they have. they are coming back with massive posttraumatic stress syndrome. suicide attempts, all this stuff. >> i have met many of these men and women that have been overseas fighting in iraq and afghanistan. there is some 250,000 of them suffering real trauma from ptsd. >> absolutely. >> now, these people are suffering. are they getting the care that they need and at the end of the day are we really turning our backs on these guys? >> it's 1% of the population and what have we seen the president do and -- >> he went to a fund-raiser
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tonight. >> they are cutting back benefit after benefit. the benefits that men and women in uniform have earned. civilian employees don't get their benefits reduced. and here we have men and women who go and fight and die and bleed for us and not only do that but we're looking at them as now, what is wrong with these people? we are not providing the mental health issues that they have. the number of people who have contemplated suicide, veterans coming back, it's like 50% within the last year have thought about suicide. >> we're awaiting that news conference at ft. hood. we're told it should be in about seven minutes from right now. when that happens, we'll bring it to you live. jonathan, you're a former navy s.e.a.l. and former fbi special agent. there is a bond inexplicable that you cannot explain to people among military personnel and this has now happened twice. it's got to be devastating for
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this community. >> it is. and going along with what k.t. was saying, what is devastating is the fact that these men and women are charged with carrying weapons overseas. they are charged with taking another person's life and in accordance with what our country is fighting for and yet when they come back, they take those weapons away from them. they don't trust them with those weapons. i've seen national guard and soldiers at an airport or doing security after a major event that happened somewhere and they don't even have any ammunition in their magazines. why are they not trusted? >> that's a great question. why do you think that would be? >> well, i think it goes to the same nonsense assaying that we know that this is not a terrorist or this is a common shooter or a soldier on soldier shooting when we don't actually know it. i mean, there has to be more commonsense. we need to stop acting like amateurs when it comes to how we deal with the military and these bases. >> look, we're being told
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certain things about the shooter but it's really too early to tell. i mean, that's the bottom line. i don't want to speculate on a program but i do think that those that have rushed to a conclusion and tell us it's defd definitively not something, i think they have done us a disservice. going back to the hasan incident, if it's terrorism, let's call it what it is. it was not a place of workplace violence. this man was screaming before he fired the bullets and all of those people were killed and injured. >> reaction? >> first, i was the one who has been reporting all night about the not terrorism-related. to be clear, my information that we reported on foxnews.com was from an official source who said currently this is the preliminary information that we're sending out. so at least my people aren't saying there's nothing relating to terrorism, there never will be. it was the initial, here's what headquarters is saying as it
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happened. sometime between now and whenever we'll know a lot more. >> i'm certainly not questioning your reporting in any way, shape, or form. i was talking about another network specifically. but in reality, there is this knee-jerk reaction to tell people that it's not that when i think we should suspect the worst. k.t.? >> any time i hear squad cars going, my first reaction is that. and so the idea that we're all going to be so politically correct that we're not going to jump to any negative conclusions, we should just have no conclusions. >> one of the things that 9/11 commission report did remind us, that there are a group of people that are at war with us . >> absolutely. >> i did not agree with a lot of the 9/11 commission report but th agreed with. it seems that as distance grows from 9/11, we seem to be for
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getting that and overseas contingency operation, workplace violence in the case of ft. hood. seems that there's a reluctance, a resistance to say that this might be terrorism. >> sean, you go on twitter after this malaysian flight and you see people saying this could have happened. they could have taken the plane. it could have been terrorism. the american public, we're ready for this. the american public is confident enough. they are mature enough to be told this could be terrorism. >> yeah. >> and the only reason i can even fathom is that people don't want to over react because they are afraid it's going to hurt their career. >> it looks like people are moving closer to the microphones. we expect that press conference to take place in about three minutes from right now. you can see a little more activity, at least on the outskirts of that. jonna, let's talk about what you are reporting. >> i was getting on a plane or landing in killeen right now or
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austin and then a drive. i this i when i got on that flight nidal hasan had been killed. the details changed. it was still on lockdown. we don't really know what is going on. >> i think we all agree there's consensus here on that but you do have sources and they are telling you -- >> that it looks like it was some sort of personal -- >> dispute? >> yeah. yes. i mean, there's obviously a large number of people who were injured. so i -- i mean, i'm not going to speculate on what kind of situation that could possibly be. but i think certainly there are a lot of questions that are not answered right now. >> let's go to access of guns on a base. i don't think, as ted was saying, that every person on a base should have access to a weapon but certainly men and women in uniform can't have access to a base yet we give them that in the field when they are out there on the field fighting wars for us. does that make sense?
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>> that certainly doesn't make sense when you think about what could have happened if an authorized person had a weapon, something like this went down, they could have reacted very quickly and maybe fewer people would have died. >> if people are coming on to a secure base, it's better for them to know this person has a weapon than to just check it out and let him go through and they may have a weapon in their car and you would never know it. a lot of the policies that they come up with, they don't make sense. just like joe biden said a woman should take a shotgun and go out and shoot in the air. not a month later a gentleman goes into the navy yard and shoots a number of people and kills them with a shotgun. >> by the way, if you go to youtube and google women with shotguns, you have one woman after another firing a shotgun and filing back and -- >> right. >> meanwhile, if they used an ar-15, there was very little recoil.
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certainly there's got to be more security on bateses lises like a plan devised so that when an incident happens like this, there's got to be rapid response. right? >> i can't imagine, just based on the people i spoke with, the witnesses, the civilian and military who responded who saved the lives of many, many wounded. >> uh-huh. >> i can't imagine that they did not do everything possible. i think that there's no other place that is prepared for this. >> guys, stay right there. we've got to take a break. as you can see, we're awaiting the press conference. we expect it any minute now. on the phone, on the way to the scene, is casey. i know that you're there and headed over to ft. hood. tell us what you know. >> yes. good evening. we're about 15, 20 minutes or so from the main gates at ft. hood in killeen, texas, where this press conference is going to start. you know, we've been racing here from dallas once the news broke with this shooting.
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but at this time, we expected to hear from the public affairs officials from the post actually making a statement. this will be the first statement that they really made because all of the information that has been coming out at this point, frankly, has been coming from the justice department and other places within the federal government and not so much from ft. hood. and they will be answering reporter questions in terms of what went down here this afternoon and on this very large military installation when these shots rang out and some of the eyewitnesss have been telling local news outlets that they heard roughly 20 shots happened outside of a medical facility this first medical brigade and
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that has very similar similarities to where this shooting happened in 2009. major nidal hasan opened fire in the processing facility and that, too, was a medical facility where soldiers were either about to deploy overseas or they were coming back. so they were receiving immunizations and checkups and things of that nature. so the shooting today happened outside of a medical facility. the srp, by the way, where the 2009 shooting took place was just torn down really within the last month or so. they levelled it to the ground and there's now a memorial where those people lost their lives on november 5th, 2009, 30 others injured. again, motive, things of that nature, we just don't know at this point. it's far too early.
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but we sure hope that this press conference that is supposed to begin at any moment from now we hope to learn -- >> casey? >> yes. >> if your sources are telling you that they heard 20 shots fired, we've got four people dead and 14 people injured. >> if this is in fact an active duty soldier, they have active firearm shooting and during the month-long court-martial we spent the entire month here for the court-martial of nidal hasan and they went into great detail during that court-martial about how he had been going to shooting ranges and practicing and there were things of that nature. so we're putting two and two
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together and and i don't know if it was extremely calculated. you have to caution, as you well know, sean -- >> early reports could be gone and you can hear detectives say that in a traumatic situation like that. >> most military, one of the things that i would say in response to what casey was saying -- we'll check in with you later this hour -- is that in fact a military personnel would be trained to count how many shots were fired. we'll find out. we're told we're about five minutes away from the press conference. we're going to continue our live continuous coverage on the fox newschannel. the shooting at ft. hood.
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this is a fox news alert. we are moments away from the news conference. we have 14 people injured and four people dead, including the shooter. joining me now is colonel allen west. colonel, i wish this was under better circumstances. we'll talk about your new book out in the days to come. one of the things that frightens me about the coverage of this and i'm watching people
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definitively say, we're told it's not terrorism. just like major hasan we're told -- now, i don't know what it was. we're told it might have been a dispute. it may turn out to be a dispute. we cannot rule it out. why are people so quick to rule it out? >> because i think that's the worst case scenario that no one wants to deal with. no one wants to believe that we have another terrorist attack at the exact same place in ft. hood, texas. so there are people that don't want to go down that path. they don't want to try to make that case again and so they are wishing away a possibility that could come about. >> now, earlier this week, right here on the fox news channel, foxnews.com, there was talk about a ft. hood-inspired jihad. our reporters got word from the fbi and others that in fact that's not true. we talked to the guy.
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don't report the story. now, this happens, what, two days later? >> absolutely. >> that seems a little odd to me. >> i have to tell you that when i heard about this ft. hood shooting, i remember exactly that occurrence. i believe that was up in the kansas city area and that's not too far away from ft. hood, texas. you can hit i-5 and get down there pretty quickly and enact whenever. once again, the most important thing now is the commanders on the ground have to do their due diligence. they have to find out the motive. they've got to go into this guy's barracks and go to his off base quarters if he lives off base. we should not start ruling things out until we find out definitively. >> did we make a mistake after hasan by the official line of the administration was, this is workplace violence? was that a mistake? >> that was a huge mistake. >> why? >> because it really didn't put the right type of security protocols in place. if you go back and you read the
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after action report on the ft. hood shooting, there's no mention of islamic extremist, jihadism and major hasan said i'm a soldier of allah. you saw what happened at the navy yard. >> why does my mind -- and i was here in new york on 9/11 and kids that i graduated high school were in those towers and i would go to church the weeks after and i would see the children of this kid that i went to high school with and now they were fatherless and i met many, many people that lost loves ones where i live. >> uh-huh. >> why do my thoughts immediately -- if a plane goes down and we can't find it -- or in this particular case at ft. hood the first time, is it wrong that in my mind i say what is the motive? are we doing enough to protect
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ourselves? >> your mind is on track. in the military they treat you to prepare for the enemy's most dangerous course of action. not the most likely. in boston you had so many people say, don't worry, this is not terrorist related and then we come to find out it was. >> early reports tonight -- and i'll just be very clear tonight -- there might have been some dispute. you've been in the military. you're a colonel. what do you know about these men and women in the military in terms of when disputes arise? >> let me tell you about my understanding and my experience. if two soldiers have a dispute, chances are they are going to go fist-to-fist in the barracks or whatever. not too often you're going to see soldiers go after a gunfight
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cor corral. chances are it was a privately owned weapon. and if you go down to the motor pool where this happened, why did you take the time to shoot at 14 different individuals and obviously there was time to reload. >> all right. let me ask you this about. because we now know, for example, after the deadly shooting at the washington navy yard, there was a lot of renewed interest at that time about why most military personnel are forbidden from carrying firearms on military bases. now, i don't want to get into a gun dispute, a gun discussion, but that rule seems a little odd to me considering we are arming these guys and sending them out to war but yet they can't have one on them. >> after the 2009 shooting people asked me how can this happen when you have soldiers walking around and armed with weapons. i tell them, that's not the case. the only people carrying
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military installations are your contracted police or military police. >> that's it? >> and that's it. as a matter of fact -- >> so they take weapons away from most military personnel? >> yeah. your assigned weapon is in an arms room and you don't draw it out unless you go on a rifle range or deployment. the thing that a lot of people don't understand is that those were civilian contract police who shot major hasan and in the navy yard case, those were d.c. police. it wasn't even military police z.y assailants. >> so if, in other words, someone were to sneak a weapon into ft. hood, huge as it is -- >> huge. >> -- that means that the soldiers are sitting ducks. >> absolutely. it's a free shooting zone. >> this goes back to man-caused
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disasters, major hasan was workplace violence. have we gotten too far away from 9/11 that we don't remember the impact of that? >> i wrebelieve that's part of and we have a civilian leadership that doesn't want to believe that it exists. if you don't want to admit that there's evil. if you don't want to admit that there's an enemy, you don't have the right type of security protocol in place. >> it's great to see you, colonel. tell us about the name of your book. >> "garnia of the republic." it came out yesterday. i'm here to do whatever needs to be done. >> thanks for being here. all the best to your dear friend and joining me now to explain the security measures that in fact were in place at the ft. hood post, fox news correspondent, former f-18 pilot herself, lea is joining us.
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tell us about the security measures and what you know about them. >> well, sean, you were talking members not being able to carry weapons on base. that's true, of course, except the military police officers on base. they also have contracted police on many bases. at any rate, they are all law enforcement officials that have all been trained. they all go through active shooter training. i'm told by former fbi special agent that that training has changed in the past several years, much because of the columbine shooting that happened back in 1999. previously when law enforcement officials had everyone shelter in place and establish a command post before going in. but those rules have since changed to get to the location, have everyone shelter in place and immediately go to the last known location of the active shooter, not clearing any other room, just trying to get to the
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location and that's to decrease the number of injuries and deaths. this particular base, as you mentioned, is the same base of the 2009 shooting involving nidal hasan. now, there was an independent review of that shooting. i have it right here. i've been looking through this, sean, and it highlighted the need for the department of defense to review its approach to forced protection to go beyond looking at external threats. some of the findings that it came up with was that the law enforcement officials actually responded pretty quickly back in 2009 after the first 9/11 call they were at the area within 2:40 and another minute later nidal hasan was incapacitated. it talks about weaknesses in background checks for people who have access to the base and that
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there was some of the force protection policies that focused on internal threats. sean, as this all plays out, as we learn about what happened here, it will be interesting to see if some of these recommendations were followed and what happened here. >> lea, i think you raise a lot of good points here. it appears that the gun type policy was traced back -- i found the department of defense and directive that they had literally signed in effect back in 1992 by donald atwood deputy secretary of defense. there was specific changes, is what you're saying, after the initial ft. hood incident with major hasan? >> actually, sean, what i'm saying is that law enforcement officers changed the way they dealt with the tactics and that was a result, from what i'm told by former fbi special agent, this review that i've been discussing is a d.o.d. -- an independent review that was
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conducted after the ft. hood shooting to assess why that shooting happened, how it was handled and what things could possibly have prevented it. and might prevent future incidents like this. so it would be real interesting to see if those recommendations were implemented and what played into this particular shooting, sean. >> lea gabrielle, thank you for joining us tonight. herself an f-18 pilot. we've been given a 2 1/2 minute warning. warning. we'll come back and have@@e@8ñ [ male announcer ] hands were made for playing.
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>> a place like ft. hood is a sanctuary. my father was in the army. i was in the army for 39 years. and a post is a place where you return from war, and you get to know your families and you go to church and you go to the commissary, your kids go to school. so the atmosphere of this place is sometimes different than they're portrayed. >> general, we're failing these families. we're not securing these bases. >> that's true. >> we've got people dead, injured, fighting for their lives tonight.
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something isn't working? >> no argument there. but all i'm saying it shouldn't be a free-fire zone. i think the military should beef up the security. i think there ought to be a quick reaction force on post. more armed guards, particularly uniformed armed guards. soldiers carrying weapons who act in that military police capacity. no question about it. we've seen the navy yard. we've seen ft. hood twice. clearly the security on these post systs is not what it shoul. we're still awaiting that press conference. it keeps getting pushed back. we'll have it live here on the fox news channel. colonel, your thoughts, your reaction? >> well, sean, everything we know up to this point is speculation. we may know the name of the shooter. we know there have been a number of casualties. beyond that, everything is speculation and i include in that speculation, the fact that this is not terrorism, as you
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and colonel west talked about before. we don't know that it's not terrorism. i don't know how the leadership knows it's not terrorism. so there's a long way to go before it's sorted out. certainly all of us feel terrible for the families who once again are suffering through something like this. and like general scale said, i lived on plenty of military bases, you always feel an absolute sense of security when you're on a military base, just because of the nature of the place. i expect there will be changes in security procedures, but at the end of the day, it's always going to be very difficult to stop incidents like this from happening on military bases and shopping malls, schools, wherever. as long as there are people out there who are mentally unstable on some level, or jihadists on another level and can get weapons. they're going to do these things no matter how hard we try to make it not happen. >> stay right there. i want to go back to you in a minute. when your story came out on the
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website this week that in fact it was a fox exclusive, that the fbi was searching for a recent army recruit, believed to be planning a ft.hood inspired jihad against u.s. soldiers. when i saw that article, i planned that to be the lead of my show that night. you broke this on what day? >> maybe two days ago. monday. >> then we were told, we got an update. walk us through what you heard. they said, no, no, that's not true. we spoke to that person. what do you know from there? hang on, we go to the press conference now. >> thank you all for your patience and for coming tonight. we got to introduce lieutenant general mark a. milley, the commander of u.s. 3rd corps. he'll make a statement about what he can and take your questions after that. raise your hand if you have a question and we'll direct you as to when it's time to ask your question. all right, so commander of 3rd
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corps, lieutenant general mark a. milley. >> good evening. i'd like to start off first with condolences to the killed and wounded soldiers here at ft. hood, from an incident this afternoon, approximately 1600, 4:00 p.m. today, a soldier assigned to 13th command expeditionary, fired shots at individuals within the unit areas here, within the first medical brigade area and the 49th transportation battalion area. immediately went into lockdown. we've now lifted the lockdown as of 35 or 40 minutes ago. within 15 minutes, first responders from the military police and the emergency services responded to the scene, engaged the shooter, the shooter
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is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. in regard to the investigation, at this time there is no indication that this incident is related to terrorism. although we are not ruling anything out and the investigation continues. an investigation by various law enforcement officers at federal level, from atf and fbi, at the state level, from the texas rangers, texas state police, along with local law enforcement, along with army cid and army military police. we have confirmed that there are three victims who were killed, and then the shooter was killed. there are 16 injured, being treated at scott & white and here at darnall. our thoughts and prayers go out to each of those injured and
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their families, and the killed and their families. our focus now is to focus on the families of the injured and focus on the families of the killed, ensure they have the best care and counselling available. i do ask the ft. hood community or anyone in the local community, if they have any information relating to this incident, to please contact either the fbi or the ft. hood department of emergency services. events in the past have taught us many things here at ft. hood. we know the community is strong. we know the community is resilient. we know the soldiers and the civilians and the families of this fort, who serve so bravely in combat over the last 13 years in iraq and afghanistan, are strong and we will get through this. thanks to all who have supported us. thanks to the local community who have supported us over the last several hours and many years. and thanks also specifically to scott & white for their
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excellent medical care and their ability to handle additional casualties. with that, i will take your questions. >> general, do we know a motive? do we know what set this man off? can you identify him? >> we do not know a motive. we do know that this soldier had behavior and mental health issues and was being treated for that. >> what's his name? >> at this point, his next of kin has not been notified, so i'm not going to confirm his name. we do have his name, but the next of kin have not been notified, so i'll wait until that's been done. [ inaudible question ] >> he has served in combat, he served four months in iraq in 2011. >> was he suffering from ptsd? >> he was currently under diagnosis for ptsd, but had not been diagnosed yet. >> can you walk us through what happened, as you know it?
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>> it's under investigation. the exact sequence and time line of events are not clear. it is believed he walked into one of the unit buildings, opened fire, got into a being have, fired from a vehicle, got out of the vehicle, walked into another building, fired again. and then was engaged by local -- >> i'm sorry? [ inaudible question ] did he begin this thing with an argument? we heard that there was an argument in the wtu, and that is how this started and that he also was using semi- automatic handgun of some kind. >> he was using a 45 caliber smith and wesson semi- automatic pistol that was purchased recently in the local area. i'm not aware of an argument at the wtu. there are some initial reports there may have been an argument in one of the unit areas. don't have any indication of an
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argument at the wtu. >> had he been in the wtu -- >> he had not been assigned here on the wtu. >> had he been in another one? >> that we don't know. we're checking his background. he arrived in ft. hood in february from another installation and we're checking with the other installation to determine of the soldier. and obviously we are digging deep into his background, any criminal history, psychiatric history, his experiences in combat, all of the things you would expect us to do are being done right now. i'll come back to you. hang on just a second. [ inaudible question ] >> they were a result of the gunfire, either direct wounds from the gunfire. some cases, there was some glass that shattered and some have superficial wounds from that. others, one was jumping a fence and got injured there, but it was a result of.
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>> so was this soldier in the process of transitioning out of the military? >> he was not in the process transitioning out of the military to my knowledge. [ inaudible question ] >> his body was found in the parking lot where he was engaged by military police. >> can you describe how they engaged this man? >> a military police officer responded and he was approaching her at about 20 feet. he put his hands up, then reached under his jacket, pulled out the nine mill, and she pulled out her weapon and then she engaged and then he put the weapon to his head and he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. >> how are you able to rule out terrorism? >> i'm not ruling out terrorism. all i'm saying is, there's no indication of it at this time. we have fbi and all appropriate
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federal agencies and all of the various organizations searching all of the internet, twitter, facebook, and all the normal association you would do, it's ongoing. we don't have any indication of that right now. but i'm not ruling it out. >> you haven't completely ruled it out? >> we are not ruling in or out anything. >> -- said today in light of the -- events today and major hassan, saying that ft. hood might be a jihadist target. do you share that concern? >> i'm not sure i understood what he said. but i don't have ft. hood as a specific target or any other installation. >> can you tell us if he had any family? >> the soldier is married, does have family and again, we're not process of notification.
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>> were they here, sir, or living in some other part of the country? >> they're in the local area, that's correct. >> were any of the victims known to the soldier? >> i do not know that. >> how many total weapons did he have? >> to our knowledge, he had one weapon, 45 caliber smith and wesson. if i said nine millimeter, i misspoke. it's a 45 caliber smith & wesson. don't know how much ammunition. >> what normally goes on in that company? >> it's a headquarters building where they conduct the day-to-day administration of the medical brigade. in the other building they direct the transportation battalion. >> how far apart? >> not far away from each other. >> is this a building he would have gone to routinely? >> yes, the transport battalion building, he would have gone to. >> for his treatment? >> no, not for his treatment.
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that's his unit headquarters. [ inaudible question ] >> i did not say his rank nor his name. i'll do that when his family is appropriately notified. >> what type of treatment was he undergoing? >> he was undergoing behavior, health and psychiatric treatment for depression and anxiety and a variety of other issues. [ inaudible question ] >> he was not assigned to the wtu at the time. >> the female officer who engaged him, how would you describe what she did today? >> it was clearly heroic what she did. at that moment in time, and she did her job and exactly what we would expect of a united states army military police. >> did you say he was under a diagnosis for ptsd. >> he was not diagnosed as of today. he was undergoing a diagnosis process to determine if he had ptsd. that's a lengthy process to be confirmed with ptsd.
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[ inaudible question ] >> there are reports, i don't know if he was diagnosed in the clinical sense. there are reports that he self-reported a traumatic brain injury previously coming back from the iraq tour. >> was he on medication? >> he was on medication, that's correct. [ inaudible question ] >> yes, he was. he was not a wounded warrior. he was not wounded in action. no purple action, not wounded in that regard. >> you said he came from another installation, can you tell us where that is? >> at this time, i prefer not. i have folks calling that installation, talking to the chain of command to determine the background information. >> what state, sir? >> what state? [ inaudible question ] >> it's here in texas. okay, couple more questions. yes, ma'am.
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[ inaudible question ] >> all of the wounded and killed were military. >> sir, what can you tell us about protocol as far as carrying the type of weapon that the soldier has and other soldiers that are allowed on base? what can you tell us about security? >> if you have a weapon and you're on base, it's supposed to be registered on base. this weapon was not registered on base. >> general, what was your reaction, the first thing that went through your mind when you heard there had been another shooting at ft. hood? >> immediate reaction was, casualties. what kind of casualties and do we have one or more shooters, and are those shooters secure? and to provide the protection for the local community. >> was the fbi already on the scene from monday regarding the possible mass shooting? >> we have a local fbi liaison officers, but no, large fbi assets were not here. they are actually in-bound to
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help with the investigation, but no, there's local fbi available to us. >> there are a lot of programs to help soldiers dealing with issues coming back from service. are you concerned those programs have gaps? >> we'll have to reexamine all of those programs and see if there were any gaps. i'm not ready to answer that just yet. >> general, over the years now, we've had three -- this is the third one we've had, first with hassan, nazar abdal and now this. are you concerned beyond the fact that this is not the first time, that this place is becoming a target for people, for whatever reason? would your reaction have been when this began, not again here? >> my reaction was not, not again here. my reaction was to immediately make sure we had a read on the casualties, immediately security the site and immediately look for one or more shooters. and to secure the installation. i wasn't thinking about, not
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again or any of that. >> what do you think now when you think about it? >> right now my concern is with the families. those that are injured and those that were killed. >> can you talk about how the response about soldiers being allowed to carry concealed weapons for self-defense? what are your thoughts about soldiers carrying concealed weapons on base? >> you're not allows to carry concealed weapons on base. >> do you think that will change? >> no, i don't think soldiers should be allowed to carry concealed weapons on base. we have law enforcement on base that is trained. [ inaudible question ] >> it was within minutes. exact time, probably 10 to 15, maybe. ma max. [ inaudible question ] >> i think the law enforcement acted very rapidly. and swiftly. given the nature of the circumstances. >> i'm not going to get in a
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debate with you on carrying weapons on a military installation. say again. >> can you tell us about the gender of the killed and wounded, men or women? >> no, i don't have the specifics and i'd rather not go into that. the shooter was a male. and the officer that engaged the shooter was a female. but the other injured, no, i don't. say again. [ inaudible question ] >> probably about 15 minutes, 20 minutes. but we don't have an exact time line. >> general in light of the fact that this is a third incident -- >> let me go to someone else. anyone else. go ahead he. >> can you talk about the change in the security procedures in the wake of the hassan shooting, and how it informed today's response? >> i think the response from the law enforcement and the medical folks, displayed clear lessons
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learned from the previous case. the response was swift and appropriate both fray law enforcement perspective and from a medical perspective. last question. >> you mentioned that the suspect had bought the weapon days before. how much indication do you have of premeditation, the timing of it, was there something going on in this building? >> i do not know. i don't have any idea about the premeditation. last question. >> considering he had a weapon that was not registered, he carried it on base. are you considering changing the protocol or practices, how you check a vehicle as it's approaching base, considering this just happened? >> i will be reviewing all those procedures, that's correct. thank you very much. i appreciate it. also appreciate your support. we will hold a regular press
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conference daily until we get all of the information out into the public that we have that's appropriate. i don't have a time for that, but the first one obviously will be tomorrow. and colonel chris garver, our public affairs officer will put that out. i just ask for all your thoughts and prayers for the fallen and the wounded in this particular case. thank you very much. >> that's lieutenant general mark a. milley giving the press conference with the most definitive information we've gotten tonight. and we'll recap for you. one reminder programming wise, we're expecting a hospital presser coming up any minute. when that happens, we'll bring that to you live. we know the soldier fired shots at the first medical brigade, also within the transportation brigade, that ft. hood went into lockdown. that lockdown ended about 10:00 p.m. eastern tonight. we know that the shooter is a male, he died of a self-inflicted wound. more information on him in a
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minute. there's no evidence they said it was linked to terror, but they're not ruling it out. three other victims killed. injured is at 16. they're being treated at a local hospital. as the lieutenant general said, the focus is on the family of those that have been injured and those that have lost loved ones from the feamilitary standpointd they're asking the public for any information that they might have. they've been through this once before. other things that we're putting together, we're beginning to get pieces of what happened. from what we understand, the shooter went into both the medical and the transportation brigade, firing shots. it was a military female police officer that apparently confronted the shooter in a parking lot, and she is being heralded tonight as a brave soldier, standing up for those in harm's way tonight. we'll have more details obviously coming. we also
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