this is a fox news alert. you're looking at the u.s. soldier identified as the gunmen in yesterday's deadly rampage at ft. hood. pictures emerged today of army specialist ivan lopez who killed three people, injured 16 others before turning the gun on himself. he was a married father, an iraq war veteran who had been stationed at ft. hood for just a few weeks, also today pictures have emerged of one of the three victims he killed, sergeant timothy owens, authorities held a new update in texas. we'll go to national security correspondent jennifer griffin at the pentagon but we begin with rick levanthal live at ft. hood with the very latest. rick? >> reporter: and, you know, one of the things we have to remember is this shooting just

happened 24 hours ago, and we've already learned quite a bit about the gunman, including perhaps the motive from lieutenant general mark milley who is the commanding officer at ft. hood. he said he believes there's very strong evidence that the medical history of ivan lopez can explain why he opened fire yesterday afternoon. listen. >> it was mentioned yesterday there may have been a verbal altercation with another soldier or soldiers and there's a strong possibility that that in fact immediately preceded the shooting. >> reporter: so there may have been some kind of verbal altercation that may have sparked the shooting, but a very good question we should ask, eric, is why was he carrying the gun in the first place because he wasn't authorized to do so on post. >> rick, during all of these news conferences that we've been listening to, has anyone outlined whether he was on any sort of medication, any sort of anti-depressants? >> reporter: yes, the general said yesterday he was on some

sort of anti-depressant, and then we heard in more detail today he was also prescribed ambien for sleep disorders. a guy who was suffering from depression and anxiety, according to authorities and was apparently claiming to have ptsd but that had not been officially determined. >> hey, rick, the -- the situation around post-traumatic stress disorder seems a little confusing to me. he had been looked at for having that or was in fact being treated for that because he was seeing a psychiatrist, correct? psychiatrist, was complaining of mental issues, and apparently among those issues he believed he may have had post-traumatic stress disorder. he claims he suffered a traumatic brain injury in iraq at the end of 2011, but the army says there's absolutely no record of lopez suffering any combat injury, no record of him having a head injury and no confirmation he had ptsd. they say it's a very lengthy

process to determine if someone does have that condition and that they were looking at him, diagnosing him to see if he did, but they hadn't yet concluded their diagnose. >> hey, rick, it's gutfeld. this fellow was in the army for nine years and he reached the level of e-4 specialist. why is that unusual? >> you would assume he had achieved a higher rank. it may not be nine years. it may are more than that, may be 15 years. we're told he joined the puerto rico national guard in 1999 and was down there for nine or ten years before joining the army and then serving in a couple of locations here in the states. he was at ft. bliss before being torrential ferd here and there was another interesting thing that came out of press conference. he wasn't transferred here in february for his mental condition. he was transferred here because he switched jobs in the army. he was in fact a truck driver. he was brought here to continue doing that and while here he was getting mental health treatment.

>> there seems to be a little confusion exactly about his mental condition. what we've heard so far is there's pre-existing condition prior to his involvement with the military, also, you know, during it, but right now there's been substantiation of traumatic brain injury, post-traumatic stress disorder and from what i've read it seems his involvement in war was post-war, involving removal of equipment, things of that, was not combat-oriented. >> reporter: right. it was the last four months of the war, the drawdown, the end of 2011 so there wasn't the same kind of combat that many soldiers have seen and marines and airmen have seen in the year since 20 since 2003. one other note that may give insight into his mental condition, we heard from his friends in puerto rico that his mother had died in november and that his grandfather had died just a few weeks before that, and apparently he was very shaken by that. whether that contributed to his

actions here yesterday though remains to be seen. >> rick, it's dane avrnlts i'm curious, aside from the gunman and murderer, what about the victims. i understand the names have been slow to come forward. have you heard anything more? did we learn anything more about them? >> reporter: we know they were all service members. they were all in the army. three were killed. 16 others suffered a variety of injuries. some were cut by flying -- broken glass. at least one person was injured jumping a fence to get away from the scene. everyone -- a number of people were shot. they all were shot a single time, but some of those wounds were pretty dramatic. one has a spinal injury. another one had an abdominal injury involving intestinal reconstruction. there are three people at last report still in critical condition, but according to hospital they are all expected to survive. we have three victims, three dead, 16 wounded and then, of course, the gunman as well is dead. >> hey, rick, i want to ask you

about security, the security. has it changed since 2009 to have more armed personnel there? did this have an impact on perhaps why he was stopped in a parking lot? >> i don't know if they added more military police or more defense department police officers. we are told that they added more long guns to the arsenal of the officers and mps who work on bases across the country. they can't search everyone, greg, that comes on the base here. there's 80,000 people who work at ft. hood on post, and there are 30,000 to 40,000 family members who have access so it's just impossible to do those kind of searches, but they were on scene quickly. they do train now since 2009 in active shooter scenarios, and according to the general here, the responding officers performed admirably in getting to the scene and then tracking this guy down and stopping him before he could potentially shoot even more people. >> hey, rick, we noted he was a

father and a husband. can you give us a little detail about what his family life was like. was there trouble in the marriage. do we have any of those details? >> reporter: that's a good question. someone else raised that at the news conference this afternoon, and the general couldn't go into any more detail. he was married. his wife also from puerto rico. he may have two children in puerto rico in addition to a couple of kids here. it's unclear if he had three or four children but he was a father and he was a husband, and we're told that the wife was at their home off base, and after hearing about the shooting was outside with other relatives of soldiers when she learned that it was her husband who believed she was responsible for the shooting. that's when he came and picked her up and questioned her. >> the base commander suggested that the verbal confrontation contributed to his actions. there's verbal confrontations on the military base that size every day by lots of people. i mean, that seems to me to be a

pretty weak read to put out there. >> reporter: again, the general said that this is a man with an unstable psychiatric condition so that he believe he was already on shaky ground, and, again, he's carrying a weapon that he's not authorized to carry so why did he have that gun? perhaps he was looking for an altercation. previous he had a previous altercation. we don't know. obviously that's going to be part of this investigation. the army and its team and the fbi as we will looking at everyone who had contact with specialist ivan lopez to find out what he may have said, what he may have done, and they will put that together, but it's only been 24 hours. it's going to take some time. >> we'll leave it right there, rick levanthal at ft. hood, thanks very much. >> let's go now to national security correspondent jennifer griffin at the pentagon. the department of defense, any response? what are they saying? >> reporter: i think what's most interesting, eric, and what they will be looking into is part of the fiscal year 2013 defense

authorization act, essentially the pentagon budget, added a stipulation that mental health workers had to alert commanders if they thought that an individual might take their own life or caused a danger to others, and this was all part of this post-2009 ft. hood shooting, also after the navy yard shooting just last year. this was an effort to try and find this insider threat and to -- and try and get them before they go on a rampage. there will be big questions about the mental health worker who was seeing specialist lopez if this worker was already diagnosing him with depression and giving him anti-depressants and ambien, as we're told. was there anything in those -- in those meetings that he had with the mental health specialist that suggested that he might have suicidal tendencies or homicidal tendencies because if so, that mental health worker was required to alert the base

commander. eric? >> you know, jennifer, the military has not been strongly behind psychiatric evaluations and other things for several years. they were saying -- as a matter of fact, they fought the issue of post-traumatic stress disorder for a long time, if you remember. now all of a sudden we've got several cases of this. we don't know whether it's post-traumatic stress disorder, but we know we have a lot of people with mental problems in the military and the yet their budget for it, leaving aside whether workers have to identify their patient, they still have too many people with too many problems and not enough resources to deal with them. >> reporter: well, other eats thing, bob. actually back in around the 2009 time frame the military and the army in particular really made an about face in terms of post-traumatic stress and mental illness and trying to destigmatize that. they put a lot of efforts into that, and what you're seeing is almost at times an overcompensation for that, so i would argue that you're right.

they don't have enough money for will mental health workers, and you have 2.6 million americans now who have served overseas in the wars in the last 13 years who are coming back with recent studies show nearly half of them are showing signs of post-traumatic stress. it's really important to point out this specialist lopez was not in bat. in the most peaceful time in iraq. the last four months he was a truck driver. he was not fired at, so there's no indication that he was involved in combat, but clearly he was somebody suffering from depression, anxiety. the military has tried to destigmatize that in the process. they are really -- they are weighing how do they destigmatize it but also alert authorities if they think someone poses a threat. >> jennifer, that was actually going to be my question because i'm actually alarmed by some of the conversations that i've seen -- that we've seen since the shooting because there's been so much -- so many efforts done, not just by our

government, but by a lot of private sector organizations. we should in no way al lou, and i wonder what the defense department thinks about this, no way allow to assume that someone with pts is going to commit a homicide. i am so disturbed. >> absolutely. >> better not let that happen in america and i'm sure the defense department agrees. >> absolutely. that's why it's been so difficult in the last 24 hours because of the reports that he was seeking treatment for post-traumatic stress. he was not diagnosed with post-traumatic stress, and if you look at his military record it's really hard to see how he would have actually obtained that diagnosis so it's very important, dana, and i think the point that you're trying to get at is that those service members who are being treated for post-traumatic stress, they are not necessarily violent, and this is not an indication, so a lot of this is getting conflated right now and there are people

in the army that are very concerned about the conflation of these two things. >> jennifer, the way you've laid it out. it seems to me that kind of the answer to the questions that we're seeking about what might have trigger this may very well be a pre-existing condition that he had, that he, you know, rightfully went to seek some kind of psychiatric intervention, which we do want to encourage people to do. you don't want to stigmatize and then people who really need it aren't getting it, but perhaps there was also some combination of psychotropeic drugs, mentioned ambien before, suffering from depression, maybe taking the anti-depressants as well. there could be a chemical reaction, perhaps overmedicating, and that's why they need to focus some of the research since the military record dons substantiate a ptsd diagnosis as far as we know right now. >> exactly, kimberly. what's really the biggest issue right now for many of the returning veterans is this cocktail of pharmaceuticals and drugs that are being prescribed to them for depression and sleep

disorder and anxiety, and that cocktail of drugs, we have no idea what effect that is having on people, and we're seeing very violent outbursts as a result of those drugs, and more studies need to be done on the interactions of these drugs. we also know from looking at his facebook page, because we've been able to find his facebook beige, you know, he has an interesting psychological profile. he seems to have been a heavy metal enthusiast. he was a -- he called himself ivan slip knot, slip knot being a reference to a heavy metal band that he had some very disturbinging images from that band on his facebook page. it's really unclear what other drugs he may have been taking. >> i also listen to slip knot, so let's not -- >> well, that explains it then. >> i don't want to stigmatize slip knot, by the way. >> you get to the point where it's -- it's about a person's behavior independent of their employment. this is not linked to combat. it is somebody who has a

disorder. i think that's probably fine. i have questions about the initial reporting. was this pure coincidence that this arose after the rumor of a jihad, or was it just -- did they hear rumors that something was going to happen? was this connected? was that purely coincidence? and the second part is when this happens, they always talk about a second shooter, and there almost never is. is that assumption made out of caution so that you assume that there's somebody else out there? >> reporter: absolutely. i think the assumption is made so that they keep people in lockdown mode, shelter in place, and they want to be sure that there isn't a second shooter, but as you said, greg, we've seen with the navy yard and with other incidents that there hasn't been a second shooter when in fact in the initial hours it appears that they would, and in terms of that report that had gone out, jana winters' report about the alert for on the lookout for a jihadist wanting to carry out a ft. hood-style attack, absolutely no relationship and pure coincidence and somewhat

bizarre, but -- but absolutely no indication of any -- any connection to that. >> jen, a quick thought from dana. >> just a last quick question. because people are comparing this to the previous massacre that happened at ft. hood. i wonder if the defense department is planning to call this the same, workplace violence, or will they have a different designation for this. >> reporter: that's a good question. i think it's a little early to say. this incident appears to be somewhat different than the orange ft. hood shooter in 2009 because we saw major nidal hasan had jihadist ties. >> next. should soldiers have a

so after a shooting what often follows is more shooting, mostly from the mouths of opinion-makers pre-set in their assumption. the right instinct sorrow, but others w sentiments for this is always about proving the other side wrong, but we could talk about this without politics. all you've got to do is ask what are the facts? first, this attack says little about service men. crime rates are way lower among

military than the rest of us. they need support. they don't need pity. second, a killer murdered three people and then himself. what prompted his own death, another gun? apparently the killer was in a parking lot armed when an officer pulled out a weapon. that made his decision for him. now, we can discuss the origins of the attack and the attacker, but the end is clear. the length of an attack is usually dictated by the time it takes for another gun to show up. you can figure this out. on a military base where soldiers are often separated from their weapons, it was an officer who stopped this, not a soldier. thank goodness for her. could have been worse. maybe it could have been better if there were more of her around. after all, our military should be safer on an american base than i am here at fox news. they deserve that and more. >> want to just throw to this sound on tape. this was ft. hood survivor by the name of sergeant alonzo lunsford about weapons not being in the hands of soldiers while they are at ft. hood. >> this has happened again, and after our shooting the first

thing that was said well, what are we going to do to stop this from happening again? and every one of the powers at be from the military and also our government came up with all these grandiose ideas, this is what we're going to do to fix the problem so it doesn't happen. we are trained to be able to operate these weapons and make good decisions with the weapons, and as i stated before, guns don't kill people. people kill people, but if you are allowed to carry the weapons on the base that's a deterrent. >> kimberly, i'm trying to figure out why this law is there, because if disarmament increases the risk making a perpetrator less likely to be stopped, is it because they are trying to lower the risk for suicide? i don't know if that's worth it if they are vulnerable to this. >> no, you make a great point, and when you see this situation, what i think about if other people were allowed to carry weapon, perhaps there would be -- it would operate as a deterrent, there would be less casualties that we see in a

situation like this where more of the officers are around like the female. i don't understand quite the logic. i would like to think if you step on an american military base, are you in one of the safest places of the world. to me that's a reassuring thought. district of columbia turning, the same place getting hit, coincidence or not. it is disturbing. whatever they tried to put in the aftermath of that shooting by major nidal hasan didn't work here. >> yeah. bob, if it's about protecting soldiers from themselves, couldn't that logic be extended to the battlefield because you can kill yourself there? >> yeah, you could. let's -- let's look at some other facts. the suicide rate here is higher, twice the national average, correct? >> no, it's reverse. the national average is twice that at ft. hood. >> and you don't have any incidents where there's higher degrees of mental health, forget -- >> they have lower crime rates, far lower than the general population. >> if you take that into account and there's not a universe of

people there that are potentially dangerous because of guns, i mean, you give them guns, i don't see any problem keeping guns. >> well, here's what we learned. by the way, i think the suicide issue, that's the number one reason, a couple of generals today on fox news were cited. here's what ends up happening. the gun-free zone becomes the easy targets. >> just like school. >> three areas. think about this in the last couple of years, military bases, navy yard, ft. hood a couple of times. >> yeah. >> theater. >> the school in connecticut, gun-free movie theater in aurora. remember the sign posted no guns. become targets for wackos. time to take the gun-free zone zions down. >> are you suggesting that it wouldn't happen? >> i am suggesting it would happen with far less frequent. >> i if you look at our building, media, well-paid talking heads are more protected

than our military. that seems idiotic. >> and our students and children around america. >> yeah. >> i also think that in addition to the question about whether guns should be on base that -- that the root cause of the mental health problem in the country is still one that a year later, everybody says we're going to talk about it. talk about it for two weeks and nobody actually ever puts forward policy solutions. veryisisisturbingly in the "wal street journal" on saturday there's an editorial about the mental health division at the health and human services department and how it just wastes a ton of money that could have helped people like the adam lanzas of the world or maybe this individual that ends up killing many more people, and i think that if congress could get ahold of that budget and force some restructuring, we could actually get that money spent on things rather than this thing. dance your way to wellness and recovery is one of the programs that they held last week. >> that sound like fun though. >> really? >> you would like that? >> well -- >> dance your way to wellness and recovery. >> i love to dance.

>> it is interesting. deployment does not raise risk, it doesn't. >> no. >> and rates of crime are lower among the military personnel. and civilians. >> right. >> it's critical that we don't try to tag people that have pts that are suffering from that, that we don't stigmatize them. more than anything they need good jobs. >> yeah. >> when they come out of military, and they are great employees. >> exactly. all right. ahead on "the five," one of the koch brothers fires back at angry democrats like harry reid who have been trying to paint them as un-american and another huge shake-up is coming to late-night detail. we'll fill you in on all the details when "the five" returns.

democratshould be obsessing about issues like jobs and the economy, but instead they are focusing all of their

time these days on two billionaire businessmen. >> the koch brothers are willing to do anything, even exploit americans suffering from cancer. >> republicans are doing the bidding of the koch brothers, the wealthy and huge corporations. >> the koch brothers spent i believe $248 million of their own money in the last election cycle. they are in fact a political party to themselves. >> it's time that the american people spoke out against this terrible dishonesty of these two brothers who are about as un-american as anyone that i can imagine. >> awful. well, one of the koch brothers has had enough. you can imagine, right, so in an op-ed in the "wall street journal" charles koch writes, quote, i have devoted most of my life to understanding the principles that enable people to improve their lives. it is those principles, the principles of a free society, that have shaped my life, my family, our companrica itself. since when has it become a crime, a sin to spend your own money in this country to support

a candidate or express the beliefs, you know, of a candidate basically that supports what you believe in, dana? why is this making a devil and a demon coming about here. >> bob, are you humming to yourself. >> a violin about the koch brothers and their americanism. >> okay, open secrets, the center for responsible politics, the koch brothers donations of federal candidates, parties and political action committees total $3.2 million from 1989 to 2012, for george soros, 4.5 million. individual donations of 527 campaigns, george soros, 35.8 to the koch brothers 3.9 millions. the interesting thing is that the democrats -- what they are reacting to is even thought the koch brothers spend less, they are billionaires, they spend less than democratic-leaning billionaires, they are actually more effective. that's why i guess they are being held up and targeted. it is almost mccarthyistic, the things that you hear from the

senate floor about two americans who are expressing the first amendment rights. >> not playing for their team. >> nobody says that about george soros. they say we don't like his tactics. no one says he's -- well, he is un-american. that he's not allowed to do it. >> where we're going for this obviously for the preparation for the show, two patriotic americans, well written, the -- the idea here that these guys are somehow benign. they do a lot for charity, i'll give them, that a lot of things. but it's not that much money. spent $248 billion-million because they support americans with prosperity. they say they are not involved with the tea party, the single biggest contributor. >> who cares what. difference does it make? >> why don't they say it instead of hiding behind all these right wing groups they put together. >> shouldn't hide behind americans for prosperity. here's what they should hide between the 63,000 americans or

the 143,000 additional jobs that surround the ones they employ or the $12 billion in compensation annually. >> does this give them the right to subvert the political process? >> they are not. >> they are not breaking one single law. >> you say it's -- >> by the way. >> who writes these laws? >> hillary clinton is going to one in 2016. how much do you think she's going to raise? >> you're asking me. >> let's take a guess. >> i would say $1 billion. >> how much? >> $1 billion. >> want to go higher? >> the koch brothers, or whatever they are called -- >> where is that money coming from? >> where is hillary's money coming from? where is it coming from? >> greg. >> a lot of small contributors unlike the koch brothers. >> let me just -- >> i agree with bob on this. the koch brothers are evil. they pour millions -- hundreds of millions of dollars into hospitals that treat sick people. the government can take care of that. they pour millions into the arts. >> ballet. >> idiotic and ballet.

only leftists should be doing that. they create work by sewing the seeds of commerce instead of racial division. that's terrible, because we need more division in this country. if you're liberal and you're rich, you're bruce wayne. if you're conservative and rich, you're montgomery burns. the government hates the koch brothers because they make you less reliant on government. no wonder reid hates them because he makes reid obsolete. the kochs are harry potter. >> oh, come on. the biggest polluters in the country. >> you don't have any evidence to substantiate that. you can't say things like that. >> only because they are rich and influential. >> still to come on a peaceful episode of-5-a senate candidate takes a swipe at the candidate pointing out that she doesn't have a college degree but will voters care? next.

well, my pal bill gates didn't graduate from college, neither did steve jobs. do you really need a higher education to be a suck questions? i have a 1.001 on a football scholarship and look at me now, i'm at "the five." according to a senate candidate in georgia you do. david purdue knocking one of his opponents karen handel for not getting a college degree. >> a high school graduate in this race, okay. i'm sorry, these issues are so much broader, so complex, there's only one candidate in this race that's ever lived outside the united states. how can you bring value to a debate about the economy unless you have any understanding about where in the process and what it takes to compete in the global economy? >> the campaign is saying it's a disappointment that david would demean someone who through no fault of their own moved out of an abusive home at age 17 and with her own hard work and

dedication is the embodiment of the american dream. never ceases to amaze me, somebody always says something stupid. men generally about women, what is this guy thinking? first of all, 85% of the state of georgia don't have more than a high school diploma and she has mitigating circumstances, came from an abusive family. what is this guy talking about? >> it's absurd. >> where did you come up with that stat? >> no, i read it. in fact -- >> "the journal constitution." >> karl rove didn't graduate from college. ran two successful political presidential campaigns. there's so many examples of people who didn't graduate from college. also, let's just take it another step. apparently this guy is well liked by some people in the state, but if you are going -- one of the reasons you have a primary is to figure out who is going to be your best candidate to run against an opponent. this is a republican primary we're talking about. i think that the voters in

georgia who are going to vote in the republican primary have their answer, not him. >> higher education only teaches you how to get high. i did four years of berkeley. i have no memory of it other than throwing up. >> ew. >> in the handcuffs. and by the way, and half the stuff you learn there from the professors is liberal crap that doesn't work in real life. >> you shouldn't have gone there. >> high school is where you actually learn how to live. this woman is actually overqualified by not going to college. >> there you go. >> yeah, because she wasn't polluted by some of these liberal universities, and that's why you see the system applying, berkeley, pass. no way. >> let me just -- this is my block. let me suggest to my friend eric here, according to this research here from the census statistics, that 84.4% of high school diplomas in georgia, 72.4% of georgians are without college degrees. >> all right. >> let me say it's one of those

stats that you have made up in the past. >> i read my research unlike you. >> kimberly had something very important. some of the most successful business founders on the planet in america never -- bill gates started microsoft in his garage. steve jobs also -- i don't know if he went to college, also started very, very young. college degree by no means qualifies you for being successful in the economy and/or politics. >> the guy from paypal offering people a scholarship if they don't go to college and work on a business. >> can't remember his name. >> you know who else didn't go to college? >> charles manson. >> there you go. that wasn't in the packet. >> part two of dana and greg's excellent adventure at the bush center in dallas. they will settle once and for all who is taller than the other. >> and later a huge announcement that will rock the late night landscape so stay tuned for that. >> look at this. i must begin my journey,

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yesterday we had a great time showing you the tour that i gave greg of the bush library

last week in dallas, and tonight we want to show you what happened after that tour. i got a chance tonight view greg about his new book "not cool" and some "five" fans got a chance to ask us their burning questions. we're really honored to be here. we get along so well. i call him the brother i never wanted. >> you do realize that i am taller than her. >> you want to show them for once and all. >> all right. >> there you go. >> i'm going to be fair. >> i'm being fair. hold on. >> put it back, back to back. i'm still smarter. new book that just came out last week it's called "not cool." what were you trying to get across in. >> cool is a value neutral term. it's neither good nor bad and that's why it's bad and now you can tell somebody to do a bad thing because it's cool, whether it's experimenting in bizarre

drugs or it's engaging in any kind of risky behavior because, you know, don't worry about it being good or bad. it's cool. >> in your opinion is "the five" cool or not cool? >> i refuse to use those words. >> okay. >> it's good or bad, and -- and "the five" is good, and the reason why "the five" is good is because, again, it's real. the chemistry is real. it's unpredictable because we don't care. we're not interested in impressing anybody. >> we don't even talk to one another before 4:00 p.m. >> no. we can't stand each other. >> what do you guys do during the commercial breaks that you come back laughing at? >> this is an example. we'll finish a heated argument, let's say it's about global warming and we'll finish and bob will start laughing. bob, did you really believe anything that you were just saying, and he gets that chesire cat grin and he laughs. there's a thing that you do every day in the commercial breaks between the "c" and the

"d" block. >> i sing about my food. 5:35 -- ♪ what am i going to eat ♪ chinese food . i don't even know i'm doing it. >> to be here at at bush center means a lot to me. i love this library and was great showing it to greg. the only thing that would be better is if jasper were lying here and dirk bentley came in to play a set. >> leave it to kimberly for kneeling sorry for my husband. sorry, peter. let me show you a couple of fans they talked to outside the group. >> i really like the camaraderie, and i like that everybody on "the five" is really respectful of each other. >> i love all of them. >> i enjoy all of them. >> all of them. >> i can handle bob beckel because he's a teddy bear. >> bob is the best sport. >> i've listened to the news all day. i need to know what is kimberly, andrea, bob, eric, dana, greg

think because their thoughts are important to me. >> they are real. they are articulate. they like to argue and have fun and bring the news at the same time. >> we record it every day. we watch it every day. >> i'll tell you one thing. i do set my dvr every day on "the five." >> so i loved it, and you had a comment about our fans that you wanted to mention from your -- that you learned on your book tour. >> well, there's no -- there are no jerks. >> right. >> there are no jerks. "the five" -- "the five" fan is a real person. i wouldn't be anywhere without those fans. i mean, they come to buy a book, but they are there because of "the five." >> well, there's that one guy in chicago. >> yeah. >> how about all the people that we get to meet right outside whether it's snowinging raining, whatever terrible weather is out there. >> that's incredible. >> what are you doing? >> kimberly. >> the stalkers. >> but they are sweet. >> do you think you're a teddy

bear? >> no, not really, but i think -- listen, i get so much negative mail, but it's always bracketed with nice things by saying it's always you're my favorite liberal or, you know, whatever, but the thing about these people that i find amazing is how loyal viewers they are. they will come up to me and say you remember that episode when you and eric were arguing? i can't remember yesterday's episode, but it is amazing. they watch and they pay attention, and they get the news and they get other things, and i think that's important. >> last thought, eric? >> very loyal fans across the board, on twitter, on facebook, in life, everywhere. >> yeah. >> can you stop telling your fans to meet us out there. like going across the breezeway, kimberly, kimberly, can we take your picture. >> and what do we do? >> i always take the picture. >> it's just lou dobbs who is asking. >> he wears different disguises. >> and hemmer. >> and hemmer, yeah. >> we want to thank the bush center for having us.

great hosts and great to be there and glad we got to show the library, too. >> sorry about the sofa. >> if you want to catch the entire q&a with greg it's on facebook and it will be live on c-span this saturday.

all righty then. it's time for one more thing and dana is first. >> big news. right before we started "the five" david letterman, star of "the late show" has announced sometime within the next year or so he's going to retisch and he's had an amazing career at cbs, and this comes right after jay leno retired, so it's like a whole new world of late night comedy. that's why you should dvr "red eye" every night at 3:00 a.m. >> oh, my goodness. camera opportunity. so speaking of late night and awesomeness, i'm not talking about friday night. >> you're talking about our date last night. sorry, go ahead. >> i'd be in like an incubator

tent getting 20 ivs for anti-infection things. okay. instead, we can watch bill clinton on jimmy kimmel, he was very funny and also a little curious because he was talking about aliens and wouldn't be surprise federal we were invaded by them. >> more than 20 planets have been identified outside our solar system that seem to be far enough away from their sunz and dense enough that they might be able to support some form of life, so it makes it increasingly less likely that we're alone. if we were visited some day i wouldn't be surprised. >> all right. >> he's still so charming and i love jimmy kimmel. take lessons >> you like him. jimmy fallon last night had a very familiar guest. love her, governor palin. let's take a listen. >> hello, miss palin, it's me. >> what are you doing calling me? >> well, i heard that back in 2008 you predicted that i would invade ukraine, is this true?

>> you betcha, slad. >> you betcha, slad. >> i once invaded country called you betcha slad. >> governor palin will join sean hannity tonight in the 10:00 hour. bob, you're up. >> take a look at the five justices of the supreme court who have single-handedly destroyed the campaign finance system. any restraints are now gone, the fifth time since give the rich people everything they want, chief justice roberts has decided to lift all campaign finance restrictions that anybody buy it, and who should really be happy tonight is the koch brothers. >> please let us do this topic tomorrow. >> and robert. >> koch adds life, the government takes it away. >> i'm leaving. tomorrow, i'm going to grand rapids, michigan. going to be there for a bit doing shuler and grand rapids, portage, notre dame and indiana, cincinnati, ohio, kentucky, carmel, indiana, columbus, ohio. >> brentwood.

>> brentwood, tennessee on sunday. why don't you go to ggutfeld.com. >> are there windows on that bus? >> there are. >> is there a bathroom on that bus? >> there's a shower, six bunks in case i find any groupies. they are usually in their 60s the way i like them, and -- and -- >> just you and the driver? >> no, my wife comes along. >> are dogs allowed on that bus? >> that's interesting. >> don't you want to drive it? >> i'm not allowed to drive. >> doesn't have a driver's license. >> i didn't renew my driver's license. >> can i drive the bus? >> that would be fun. florida, done. >> got to leave it right there. set your dvr and never miss an

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