tonight on a special edition of "red eye." tonight on a special edition of "red eye." coming up on "red eye." a backwards bowler. is he a total weirdo? what did the president think of red eye after watching it for the first time last week? >> it's like that movie "groundhog day." except it's not funny it's terrible. i know it's sounds like i'm exaggerating except i'm not. never happen. >> none of these stories on "red

eye" tonight. >> it is good. >> i hate him. not the president. i'm not crazy about him either. i'm sorry, jack. that's black. >> wait, jack black or jack's black. >> jack's black. >> i play black jack in a movie though. >> jack is the audio guy you have worked with for ten years. he's over here. all right. let's welcome our guests. if you're feeling a little empty tonight it's because she just stole your heart and then ate it because she's a sad woman who eats human hearts. i'm here with joanne. there's the wave. >> and it's tv's andy levy in a suit and shirtless men would ride him at the beach. it's comedian sharol.

>> i'm chilling man. >> that's right. and he's so sharp, sitting right next to me lou dobbs. week nights at 7:00 p.m. eastern on fox business network. he's also author of the book "upheaval." he's pro evil. >> that's the first story. i bet your brain feels brand new considering you never used it. >> now he's turning just mean. could his next monica be a martian? former president went on jimmy kimmel where the topic turned whether aliens visited earth. he checked to see if they were at large. take a listen. >> first i had people go look at the records on area 51 to make

sure there was no alien down there and people thought that because everybody who works there had to stop an hour away and put on special clothing. that's because a lot of our technology is made there. but there are no aliens there. >> so you stopped an hour away and put on special clothing. like going into his bedroom. clinton said it might be the only thing that could unite humanity. >> think of how all the differences among people on earth would seem small if we felt threatened by a space invader, everybody gets together and makes nice. >> you and bill o'riley would be hiding in a bunker together. >> every mean thing he ever said about me, i don't care, look at that. >> plus, think of all the hot alien trim. the former pres revealed details

that keeps constant watch from deep space. it's not alive. it's dead. i don't like when they send in dead animals. lou, what do you make of the president's strategy, seems kind of depressing that a horrifying attack that would end in the deaths of billion is a real solution. >> horrifying. horrifying. i thought bubba did well with that scenario given you would expect him to have a large glass of gin or something. he knew what he was talking about when he talked about 20 planets being discovered. in all of that, he had the basic facts correct. it was where he took us -- >> he watched the cosmos on fox.

>> he was inspired. >> he probably just watched a show on the history channel. >> no. he just watched men in black. not ii because ii is a terrible movie. >> iii is pretty bad, too. >> i thought it was interesting how into it he is though. >> he's got time though and hillary is not around. there's certainly things he can't do anymore because of his heart. he's watching a lot of tv. >> eat fatty foods? >> yeah. that's why he's so trim. he looks great. i bet you have a theory on this about the alien attack and how important that is for humanity. >> first of all, i can't wait until they attack it. secondingly, we need somebody to collectively hate together. we're going to tier et up. i'm going to kick him in his foreign face. >> your theory is that alien species or race will unit whites and blacks and can chinese.

i don't think you're correct because i think the aliens are going to come here and hate the same people. they're going to choose different sides. they may hate white people. >> oh, they definitely going to hate white people. >> are there different races of a aliens? >> b exactly. >> like ones that look like that us. >> joe, what are we doing? >> there could be -- they could have their own prejudices. >> it's going to be like district 9. that's what it's going to be like. >> i had the actor and the writer on "red eye" and he was a jerk. >> he didn't like you. >> didn't like me. >> what made him a jerk? >> he thought i was making fun of the movie. >> i didn't like the movie. >> you didn't? >> it was dark and outrageous.

>> so am i. describing me, lou. >> sometimes it works. >> thank you, sir. >> it's like a candy bar. outrageous. slightly nutty. >> nutrageous. >> i have a feeling you don't believe clinton and you have evidence that aliens visited the earth. >> i can talk to you about the tall whites have been working with the government for years and tell you that it's funny that bill clinton on the says there are no aliens in area 51, as if we didn't get that technology from off-worlders. you'll just roll your eyes and laugh and eat your stupid chinese food dinner and forget all about it. on the other hand, maybe the best evidence that the government doesn't have aliens is the fact that there are no little clinton alien hiybrids

running around. because i feel there would be clinton hybrids running around. >> you would want to be the first. >> we find aliens somewhere, we're going to eat them, have sex with them and take their resources. >> in that order. here's my theory. more of a fact, that if there is life out there, the whole misuniverse competition has to be changed. >> yeah. >> that's a lot of like graphic design that has to go out the window. >> it would be galaxy? >> i don't know. >> i don't know what's bigger. >> universe is bigger than the galaxy. >> oh, ms. multiple universe. whatever. speaking of technology, i think there are aliens just like the lockness monster and big foot and one of those that taught us about technology, steve jobs. >> you think he's an alien? >> i think he was an alien. >> really? >> yes. >> i think it's time for me to

find something out -- >> she's crazy. >> she's making perfect sense to me. >> she's absolutely nuts. >> i have got to tell you, on my farm in new jersey was the last place that big foot was sighted in the state of new jersey. am i telling the truth or not? >> i think that was a drunk david gergon. >> i'm not going to disclose the identity. >> that's not fair. there have been a lot of sightings of drunk david since then. >> what happens is he wanders into a barber shop and covered in hair. >> is gergon ever not drunk? >> i don't know. >> he's always so friendly with every -- >> he's kind of per miss cuous with politics. >> i think these a fairly big word to use. >> aliens land -- let's say they landed. it wouldn't be a war.

it would be like rights, like who has more rights? what if they're god-like. then that means they have more rights. but if they're stupid plant that is don't deserve rights. would we give them rights? that's the question. >> it's like a food chain. where are they. >> where are we in that food chain. >> so you think stupid plants could travel across the galaxy and land on earth? >> if they just kind of floated down. let's say they weighed a lot and floated down. >> yeah. it's getting better. >> more believable. >> i'm not prepared to go this deep. >> imagine if they're god-like and say no. we go welcome. we all treat the world equally but they go we're better than you are, you're our slaves. >> if they bleed, they're going to get it. that's all i can say. that was well done i thought. >> i thought it was astounding if i may say. >> you just did.

it's too late to take it back, lou. >> i think you should have a part in your show called the dobentary. >> wow. >> just so you can have that for free. >> or find a guy named terry. >> good. >> well, at least the billing is right. >> all right. they're in their 40s and want to get into your shorties. alongside the clap, spring break has a fill in college coeds must be aware of. swarms of 37-somethings who couldn't get laid in college flocking to florida to try to seduce college chicks. i like doing my syndicated tv voice. only now they have more money and less hair. one admitted perv describes his approach. this is what it is. i'm ten years older than you but guess what, i like to drink and

party, too. you want to go drink bud lite or champagne? any way, we asked one of the men to comment. ♪ >> little too young for my taste. from the perspective of a 35-year-old man, pathetic or genius or both? >> i think it's genius. why not. you got the money to do it now. they used to ignore you back in college. girls like coins. go down there and wave your comb-over in their face and make them deal with it. >> look at me now. i'm ugly but i'm rich. >> yes, that's my hotel room. >> you can go party with these young men and firm buttocks.

>> it gets old fast. >> it does. >> would you like to play my saxophone. you got viagra? you can keep up. >> what do you mean by that. >> you go as your alias as trump, iii. is this for the kids? >> no. i think when a man gets to a certain age, we bring certain things. >> medical devices. >> tell me more. >> i'm just trying to think what we could manufacture. and such great memories. i don't know how many would like to hear that. >> you know what, i mean, this is biology, joanne. you are often hit on by old men but you also want a man with

money. so can you complain? >> you know what i need to start looking for is old money. >> yes. >> i have been into is new money, the businesses. no. i need like plantation orders. >> you and me both. >> you and me both. i want some old dirty 12 years a slave money. >> they're getting along now. >> this is why i choose to be single, because these -- a lot of the guys in this article are new york guys in their 30s which are i think the ones i'm supposed to be dating. one of my favorite quotes, real men don't shoot fish in a barrel, they use their lure which i agree with. >> i like that. >> that was a penis thing, right? >> i have no idea. >> they use their rod. >> andy, here is my theory, what these guys are replicating is what every celebrity does. if you're single and in the entertainment business in your 40s, this is a normal day for

you. this is james franco. >> right. >> every single day is going and picking up on 15-year-old, 17-year-olds. >> on instagram. sending letters with his face on it. >> i love that store. stick around, we'll be right back. >> andy, i want an answer from you that isn't as boring as the last one. >> i find it interesting that lou dobb is is going to sit here and say how disgusting it is when i know for a fact every year he heads to cancun. i have now been told the video has mysteriously disappeared. >> look, greg, as you know, i do a lot of charity work and counseling with co-eds, one of the things i tell them is stay away from the dudes in their 40s during spring break and they tharngful for my advice and

hone honesty. so it's win-win. >> the problem is the parents aren't talking to them. >> the guys hitting on the young girls. >> you need to have men in their 30s and 40s educating these co-eds because their parents have dropped the ball. >> look at justin bieber's father. >> yes, i have. >> he's in his 30s, young personality. >> joanne just yawned. >> i had an itch. >> wow. now i got an itch. >> there doesn't seem to be any lack of education. >> no, there isn't. >> they're having so much fun. >> go black dude. >> this is an old cable stand by while showing -- >> this is all disgusting. >> this is old footage. >> those moves are so '90s.

c'mon. >> andrea mitchell. >> it is, by god, andrea mitchell. >> i just don't know how you can suly this with talk and such -- never mind. >> we got to take a break. coming up, you finally fall asleep and i'm waiting for you in your dreams. but first the prom. not this story. we're doing another story about the prom. this is a story that we're doing tomorrow. forget you ever saw this. doing a story on the prom. ♪ to do it my way ♪ i got a lock on equities ♪ that's why i'm type e ♪ ♪ that's why i'm tyyyyype eeeee, ♪ ♪ i can do it all from my mobile phone ♪ ♪ that's why i'm tyyyyype eeeee, ♪ ♪ if i need some help i'm not alone ♪ ♪ we're all tyyyyype eeeee, ♪

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and forget that you ever said that. they made the formal abnormalle. as a veteran news man i try to stay on top of all the teen trends and the latest one disgusts me. i speak of prom proposals when students ask each other to the dance in dramatic ways like writing on store windows on putting on a musical production which ends up on the local news. >> that's when page new something was up. >> ♪ how does she know she's yours ♪ >> it was pretty complicated. and a band. members of the school dance team were in on it. they had rehearsed for weeks. >> i just want to throw up. well, wisely a high school in pennsylvania, they have them there, is putting an end to these attention grabbing stunts after one was mistaken for a fight. the district released a

statement explaining students were attempts to outdo one another becoming more creative and elaborate. further causing disruptions during the school day. for these reasons prom poseles -- a stupid word -- have been banned. but that doesn't stop one guy making a cute proposal to his girlfriend. take a look. ♪ >> that was great. i condone that. nobody ever says that. i condone that. lou, you once called your high school prom the greatest day of your life but it's been downhill ever since. what do you make of these proposals, a lot of wasted energy? >> i think they're creative and

i wonder what they're going to do when they get to marriage, how they're going to top that. can you imagine being in the class with those folks and trying how to compete? >> lot of pressure. >> i would surrender right there. >> it's not any preparation for real life. teen-age love never lasts unless you were 50 and she's a teenager. >> that's a different story. here's what it spalled out of. bullies. they stopped bullying and this happened. you got high school musical. it stints. a reepisode just to take a girl out. >> all of these kids would have been beaten up and not been able to do these proposals. >> and pounded into the earth as they should be. >> i don't condone that. >> not everybody. just an example. >> i think there's a happy medium between -- >> get the bullies involved.

>> go to bully island to find them. this is the great thing about bullying. no one ever admits to being the bully. somehow they're on one island waiting to come back. joanne, how was your prom or did you spend it at home crying into your crying shawl? >> how do you know i have a crying shawl? >> i just assumed. >> i unlike you heartless gentlemen at the table. i think this is great because it makes young men be shifl rouse. what i'm not about is having lots of flash mob rehearsals. if you have five guy friends and your the sixth guy. i'm not going to prom. but no, i need you to rehearse for my flash mob. >> she's right. anybody doing that much for a girl is a gay dude. get your moves right.

five, six, seven, eight. >> do you think these a tip-off, if the date to your prom is creating a flash mob to ask you to the prom that maybe -- >> you know what i asked my girl friend to the prom with when i was in high school, a pregnancy scare. she had a pregnancy scare. so that's my girl. >> you said -- >> i was mistaken. >> exactly. >> so you ain't pregnant right? so we going. you going to go. >> >> terrible. andy you took your cats to the prom but left your mother at home which i thought was terrible. is this trend healthy? >> what does this have to do -- >> i just wondered of the cats. >> one of the things i tell them is to stay away from dudes with elaborate proposals.

it's win-win. i am totally in favor of schools banning these stupid things. proms i mean. >> promise in jgeneral. >> yeah. >> kids aren't going to the proms anymore as couples. they hoing oang out in groups. >> we go to the house afterwards and all excited for the weekend, not the prom. >> who did you go to the prom with? >> junior prom was an ex-boyfriend at the time. we were still friends. >> he's actually here. >> henry, come on out. >> it was pauly shore and then who was the current one. >> one of the jonas brothers. or am i? >> i don't know. attention seeking behavior is p proportional to the success you have later in life. is that true? >> says the guy on tv. >> i was an obscured teenager. you look at bill gates didn't have this elaborate bo than sa

silliy. >> i like that word. >> it's a great tv show, too. he reminded me of hos. >> lib ramp chi sought attention and became famous. >> people acting out in high school, you end up nowhere. it's the quiet kids -- >> that's true. everybody who was singing at a musical in high school, they don't make it no were. >> same with the jock. >> i was in a musical. >> not you. but you doing it. >> i don't know. i don't know if this is called making it yet, joanne. >> oh. i'm trying to flatter you all right now. >> all right. coming up, the sea block. tonight's sea block is sponsored by volcanized rubber.

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. they don't believe in paternity leave. these the topic of tonight's red eye debate, 2014, live from the red eye debate center. welcome to red eye's debate center live from the center in tallahass tallahassee, florida. please no flash photography. daniel murphy is catching flack -- at least he's catching something -- for missing the first two games of the season while being on paternity leave. thought his absence was assanine. >> assuming the birth went well and your wife and baby is fine, 24 hours, you stay there, baby is good, you have a good support

system for the mom and baby. you get your ass back to your team and play baseball. >> i would have -- >> go ahead. >> i would have said c-section before the season starts. i need to be there the opening day. this is what makes our money and this is what gives my child every opportunity to be a success in life. i will be able to afford any college because i'm a baseball player. >> metz manager defending murphy's decision noting he's allowed to be there. there's nothing against it or wrong with it. he missed two games. it's not like he missed ten. somebody is being very defensive. lou, where do you stand on this? go see the lady have a baby but then head on back. what's with the two days? >> well, you know, i think frankly if you're there in the early innings, that's quite enough. >> it's just like baseball. >> the fact of the matter is

contribution is limited, so is your time. let's move on with your career. >> exactly. i thought boomer had a good point. he said my job is to provide and make money. but you could show up. >> i love boomer and those guys. shut your face. shut your face. it's his first kid. it's two games. the beginning of the season. stop being a neandertal. dumb dumb. >> being a progressive male. >> and used the dumb dumb. >> first of all, it's two games and second of all, it's the metz. practice? talk about practice. >> if it was football, different because it's 16 games? >> if it was the playoffs, october, you get back to the games. beginning of the season, who is this much of a baseball nazi that he can't be there for his daughter's birth? relax. >> i'm no baseball genius but

isn't it true the metz are so bad, no matter if he plays or not, it doesn't make a difference? yeah. you don't have to be a baseball genius. >> 31. >> look. as terry collins said, he missed two games. it's 162 game season. >> is it? >> yeah. >> and again it wasn't like the metz were in a playoff race. ha-ha. also, there's so much we don't know. how his wife was feeling. maybe she had some kind of postpartum depression or wanted her husband around for a couple days. >> a complication, that's a good point. >> we live in a world where a lot of father's don't want responsibility. good for him. i don't want to make it racial, sher sherrad. >> i have a feeling joanne you

don't care one way or the other because you hate children. >> i don't want to say i don't hate children. i just don't understand them. >> they're small and complicated. >> i don't know why these radio hosts are getting so upset especially when the manager for the team comes in and says it's fine. his wife is probably so upset, so many of these wife's are so supportive of their husband's because they're aware of the lifestyle it's giving for them and the families and the lives they can create because they have professional athletes as husband's. she's probably so upset he's missing his opening day. >> and she's getting blamed for it. >> she's probably like stay in but when the baby wants to come out, i hear that's what they do. >> he's back playing with the team and next time you'll see the baby is when he's 2 years old. >> except that it is unfair to single people. you guys get time offfor

paternity leave and i don't. just because i'm not having a kid. >> aa or rehab. >> different ways out of work. >> the next topic. the new aladen musical on broad way doesn't have any performers of middle eastern heritage which got us to thinking -- >> is this racist? >> i didn't know that. >> yes. look at that. the musical which opened last month has been criticized after a rumor started circulating -- >> that's when dominicans went arabs. >> the cast included not a single arab american actor. >> that's ridiculous. >> that doesn't include tony shalub. i wanted to put that in there. >> this is a fox news alert. a chinese ship picking up pulse

signals set to be consistent with missing malaysian airline flight. early the agency coordinating the search for that missing flight said it could not verify any connection to the missing plane. they're holding a fuzz conference on the latest and search efforts. let's listen in. >> morning. i would like to start by just introducing the people who on the stage with me today. the task first commander. on my left here i have mr. scott constable from -- from the australian transportation safety bureau. i have called this media conference to provide you with the latest information i have regarding the search for the missing malaysian airlines

flight mh370. as you're aware like yesterday reports surfaced in the chinese press that the chinese ship high shin 01 had detected pulse signals in the indicate yab ocean. i issued a release confirming i had been advised a series of sounds had been detected by the consistent with the black box. additionally i confirmed a number of white objects which were also sighted on the surface 90 kilometers from the detection area. i made clear, however, that these signals and the objects could not be verified as being related to the missing aircraft at that point in time. that remains the case. i also advised that the

australian merry team authorities coordination center had spoken to the rescue coordination center in china and asked for any information that might be relevant. this morning we were contacted by the chinese authorities and advised that high shin 01 at late yesterday redetected the signals within just two kilometers of the original detection. this is an important and encouraging lead of one which i urge you to continue to treat carefully. we are working in a very big ocean and within a very large search area and so far since the aircraft went missing, we have had very few leads. obviously, we take any reported leads in the search very

seriously. that's why today royal australian u.s. assets will deploy to assist in the vicinity where the chinese ship has detected the sounds. australian -- ocean shield are also being directed to join -- ocean shield will be delayed while ahousic noise in the current loefnlcation. in the days, weeks and possible months ahead there maybe leads such as the one i am reporting to you this morning on a regular basis. i would ask you the media to

treat them as unverified until such time as we can provide an unequivocal determination and i think that's very important and i ask your assistance and cooperation. i assure you that we will follow up and exhaust every credible lead we receive. we need to keep at the forefront of their minds, the families and friends of the 239 passengers who were onboard the flight. speculation and unconfirmed reports can see the loved ones of the passengers put through terrible stress and i don't want to put them under any further emotional distress at this very difficult time. today, also, the international investigative team has this

morning advised of a correction to the satellite data that has been used to calculate the probable flight path of that mh-370. the correction arises from new information about the state of the satellite itself when it received transitions from mh-370 during its flight. the affects of the correction is to raise the priority for searching the southern component of the existing search area ahead of the northern component. in other words, you'll see a higher probability of importance on the southern part of the search area. the existing search area remains the most likely area that the aircraft entered the water based on the new advice, the southern

area now has a higher priority. the air and surface searches for flight and wreckage today are already in progress and completed as planned in the available dialect. tomorrow's searches will be adjusted to count for any new information. up to 10 military aircraft, 2 civil aircraft and 13 ships will assist in today's search covering an area of 216,000 square kilometers. fortunately the weather in the search area is expected to remain good with a cloud base of about 2,500 feet and visibility greater than 10 kilometers. i'm now happy to take your questions. >> just three questions. have you got the data and analyzed it by the experts in

australia? second -- >> sorry. which data? >> the data of the signal from the chinese ship and then analyzed it? second, any condition is needed to be fulfilled before you draw the conclusion that -- >> the process is one of verification and essentially the information has been passed through the chinese authorities to the australian authorities with a request to do further investigation of the acoustic detection. so that is why instruments echo and australian defense vessel ocean shield which has special

equipment which will be useful in these circumstances are proceeding to the location of high shin 01. all the data that comes available to the authorities is looked at very closely but at the moment that the data we have does not provide a means, a verification. we have to do further investigation on the site itself. and that is why all of these resources are being moved to that particular location. >> how long -- [ inaudible ] >> i think we have to let the experts take their necessary time to come up with the their conclusions and on the basis of that, we will know whether it is credible contact or not.

this is something you should be -- you've all seen how we handle the visual search after several weeks. when we first started the search, there were many, many leads. some of them looked quite promising. we sent ships to pick up the stuff that had been identified on the surface of the ocean and step by step we looked at it and then we couldn't find a connection with mh-370. so that one was discounted. so far, none of the visual contacts that we have had and the wreckage -- the material we have recovered from the ocean has been, i guess, linked to mh-370. we'll go through a similar process when we go underwater.

underwater the environment is quite difficult. there are lots of occasions when noises will be transmitted up along distances depending on the temperature layers in the water and so on. there's a complexity about working underwater that makes the task quite complex. we have the necessary expertise to be able to operate there and obviously, we will have the expertise on land supporting the efforts of the people who are doing the work at sea. >> based on your professional knowledge, if it is confirm add signal comes from the black box, how difficult will it be to recover the black box in this area? if it is confirmed, will you announce immediate my or wait for the confirmation with the

other four countries together? >> look, the water in which the high shin 01 is working at the moment is very, very deep. i think it's in the order of 4.5 thousand meters and that's incredibly deep. 4.5 kilometers straight down. so you know, any recovery operation is going to be incredibly challenging and very demanding and will take a long period of time. that's if there's anything down there. first of all, we've got to establish the fact that there is something down there. we're a long way from making that conclusion. that's why we need echo and the australian defense vessel, ocean shield, to come to the location. they have special equipment that can help us make the judgment

whether there is anything down there. but i think the fact that we have had two detections, two acoustic events in that events provide promise which require a full investigation of the location. >> just to clarify. just what you're talking about then the boat picked up something then came back and found a second one in the separate area. is that correct? is that what you're saying? can you expand on the ocean shield? >> yes. okay. the first detection is about, i suppose 36 hours ago. not last night, the night before. okay? and i believe it was just a

quick acoustic detection. and then, nothing. the area investigating the site at which this had occurred and yesterday, afternoon, perth time there is another acoustic detection. that was less than two kilo meters from the original detection the fact that we have two detections, that is slightly apart. in terms of distance, in a ocean that size that is not a large distance. of course, they're separated in time over a period of 24 hours. the second transmission was, or should i say acoustic event was for about 90 seconds.

so we have to investigate it fully. and we'll do that. and we will let you know at the completion of the process what the outcome is. i mean, we're not going to hide anything from any of you. >> how long do you believe it will take to get into position to investigate this further? and is this location within the sector of the credible lead as to where the flight may be? >> yes. the answer to your last question, yes. the area is in the high-probability area. yes the second thing is in terms of how long it will take two ships to get there, hms echo is closer. she would get there, i would

think fairly quickly. or take advice from commander leafy. in terms of the ocean shield she's in the process of exporting another acoustic event which we need to look at to determine if there is anything in that. so, this is a pains taking process. and if we get any lead whatsoever, we investigate it. and if it is significant, we continue to investigate it until such time as we say, well, no. that is not connected to mh 370. so it's something that takes time. we're dealing with very deep water. we're dealing with an environment where sometimes you can get false indications. there are lots of noises in the

ocean. and sometimes, the acoustic equipment can rebound, echo, if you like. there could be issues around that. would you like to say anything more? >> in terms of timing, echo is approximately 14 hours from that position. air check marshal houston mentioned itself investigating another acoustic detention she's made. once completing that activity, if it's decided to move her down, it will be two hours to recover her equipment. approximately 24 hours. for her to steam down there and another to 2 to 3 hours to redeploy the equipment. it will be over a day before ocean shield is there. >> we're talking a matter of days to position to verify or discount? >> that is correct. we're talking days, correct.

>> if you describe the other ocean shield again? >> this is only happened within the last 90 minutes we had a report back from ocean shield from the ping locator operators there that picked up by detention, by very, very early days the note of caution air chief marshal houston mentioned they're still investigating that. we're not yet sure whether she'll be tasked to remain there. it's f.it's promising she will, if it's not, then, i expect she'll be retasked down towards the ocean one position. i would imagine it would take most of today to resolve that location where ocean shield position is. as you can appreciate she has 6,000 meters of tow behind her. to turn around and go back over an area of water again takes sometime for the hipship to

physically reverse course i won't expect until mid afternoon on a decision whether she will relocate. >> time to retrieve the black box, so obviously this is a promising identification we've had, but retrieving it before signals stop. is this something you've considered? >> absolutely this, is day 30 of the search. advertised time for the life of the -- >> authorities in australia letting us know they cannot verify whether or not the sounds heard by a chinese ship were consistent with a black box.

they said they heard two, quote acoustic events consisting of a ping nearly one and a half miles part they're now focus together southern part of the search area where they thought they heard those sounds. we're going to go to a former ntsb official and an airline mechanic. what do you make of what they're saying about the sounds, not being able to verify them? >> it's not unusual for that kind of event to occur. and they're being very cautious because of the attention being played upon this, today. it is encouraging they're able to find a signal in the same area, again. it's encouraging they're able to capture the signal for a longer. and that definitely means more time patrolling the area trying to pick it up and narrow it down again. but it's very, very encouraging. >> and you said this is encouraging lead but it should

still be treated carefully. there could be more leads like this incoming days or weeks or months. is that -- is that probably normal in situations like this. >> it is normal. and they're being cautious because of the issues of the families. the families have been going through a roller coaster ride with this. so nobody wants to get them excited about coming towards closure then having it become a dead end, again. >> exactly. >> sounds like they do have to be cautious moving forward. >> but it is encouraging that we've had two separate hits, one of them for a long duration. that is a very encouraging find. >> in situations like this, though, hearing these sounds they're still able to focus in on this one particular area. they're say we'reing going to focus here in the south where we've been looking. is that pretty --

>> that is where the most data indicates that that is flights from the airplane between signals and work done. the range of the airplane and field calculations. looks into the engine. and all indicators are now focusing in this area. and it's encouraging to have the pings in that. let's hope for the best. >> and since they now have heard these, you know what are the odds they're going to be able to find anything more? why do they think this is an encouraging lead? >> well, because of the two separate hits. two separate time frames apart. and duration of the second was 90 seconds. meaning they'd have to be getting closer to it. you mentioned temperature problem sxdz how that distorts the signal? those are valid issues. so it's just encouraging that we're getting a long hit, 90

seconds is a long period. >> it certainly is. all right. thank you john goglia former national transportation safety board official. if you're just joining us, still not able to verify if it's been found. ou for joining us. i'm megyn kelly. this is "the kelly file." >> we met at a dance, he was the first person who ever kissed me. i almost fainted from excitement. >> he packed up mother and me and moved out to odessa, texas. and i always have admired him for his pioneering spirit. >> our dad is probably the sweetest person you would meet. he is very kind and good and old