♪ martha: all right. there is our throwback thursday. back to 1970. 44 years ago today, paul mccartney announced the beatles breakup. remember that moment? the fab four got together in the 1960. their performance on "the ed sullivan show" skyrocketed them to fame. we'll leave you with that. have a great day. jenna: the investigation into the irs scandal heating up as house lawmakers get ready to vote whether to hold lois lerner in contempt of congress. a big day today in washington, d.c. i'm jenna lee. >> i'm eric shawn in for jon scott. the committee going after the former irs official for repeatedly pleading the fifth and refusing to answer questions about the tax agency's targetting of consumer groups. listen to chairman darrell issa. >> she or her lawyer explained what she wanted to admit and why she needed immunity to tell the

full truth, i certainly would consider it. but i'm not going to support immunity so miss lerner can continue to mislead this committee if she really did nothing wrong, and wants to tell the full truth, she didn't need immunity. >> republican congressman dave camp and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also about to address the targeting scandal and other irs controversies. mike emanuel live on capitol hill with the very latest. this also could potentially lead to criminal charges down the road. hi, mike. >> reporter: hi, eric, good morning to you. this news conference that's set to get underway is expected to address a range of concerns from the irs to targeting non-profits to implementation of the health care law to allegations that the agency wasted more than $50 million on conferences. earlier a key republican made the case for holding lois lerner contempt. >> the only path to the truth,

the only path to the truth is through this committee, the ways and means committee, the house of representatives. so we've got to pass this resolution. it's the only chance we have to give the american people an opportunity to get the truth about a fundamental right that was systematically attacked. >> reporter: republicans say the only way to get at the truth is do everything possible, use every tool they have to try to get her to answer their questions. eric. >> mike, how about the democrats on the committee, are they likely to go along with this contempt vote? >> reporter: eric, they have been pushing back all mile-per-hour morning be to hold lois lerner in contempt. they say if republicans were serious trying to get her to talk they have a way to do that. >> if this committee was truly interested in examining alings mitigations 6 undue influence from outside the irs, there would be an offer of immunity on the table. right now. for lois lerner. an offer of immunity so that we

could ask her what if anything she was instrucked to do by others. >> reporter: chairman darrell issa says if low he wisconsin lerner did nothing wrong and wants to tell the full truth, they doesn't need immunity. jon: we'll bring you to you love as it happens. jenna: we'll follow that story, eric. new polling on obamacare spelling bad news for democrats ahead of the midterm elections. according to brand new polling from "usa today" and the pew research center, more than 80% of voters say a candidate's position on the health care law will be important factor deciding who get their vote. by two to one, those who rate obamacare as very important, don't like it. this is first major poll we've seen since the president talked about enrolling 7.1 million under the affordable care act. let's bring in our panel. john mccormick a senior writer for "the weekly standard." great to see you both today as we look at some of these new numbers.

"the washington post" puts it rather bluntly if you look through all the numbers. here is what "the washington post" says. republicans are far motivated by hatred of the obamacare than dems are for approval. law. what does it mean for the midterm elections. >> there is drop-off between the presidential year elections and midterm elections and it comes down to intensity in a lot of cases. this shows obamacare is winning issue for republicans that will get them out to the polls in november. views of the law are pretty firm. back in december when the news was terrible about obamacare about the website, voters opposed it by 13-point margin. fast forward to april. we had a whole week of the administration and allies in the media talking about how great it was, the law was working, they got seven million people to sign up for it. look at pew poll, 13% margin, people opposed law. there was up tick in people uncertain about the law, so there is some reevaluation but in general, views are pretty firm. jenna: caitlin what john is talking about, 37-50 approval of

the law. 50% disapprove of it. 37% like it. it was interesting if you read further into the analysis of the pole based on "washington post," republican cost be in a little trouble with this. they can't repeal the law completely because a lot of provisions are going into effect. they can't exactly introduce a solution because that solution may look very much like obamacare. so what do republicans do if this momentum is working in their favor? what are they considering? >> well, i think introducing something new entirely has the risk of alienating some constituents or dividing republicans which is exactly what they don't want to do in the election where they have a built-in advantage. democrats are looking at these poll numbers i think, should be concerned because it is a major issue in midterm elections but for them i think the intensity factor is huge. republicans are more energized to turnout because of the health care law than democrats are. and for democrats pushing a

message of kind, that we've turned the corner here and people are enrolling that could be troublesome. there are polls that suggest, that show that there is support for keeping the law and fixing it. a majority support. that there is also high support among republicans for repealing it entirely. what has democrats concerned is that that kind of 30% or so, that support repealing the law entirely are those who are going to turn out in the election year. that's why you're seeing them push all of these other issues on capitol hill. jenna: so again what does that mean, john, for republicans in do they sit back and let the polls be what they are? we heard that from a few republican lawmakers. or do they have to think about strategy as we move closer to november? >> i think they have to put forward a conservative alternative. what they can say we'll not repeal protections for people with preexisting conditions. there will be some assistance for people at lower income end of the scale but you can do that in a way that doesn't completely reshuffle the health care system where federal government has

complete control. i think they have the upper hand in general going forward. the impact of the law is hurting a lot more people than it is helping. if you look at some polls recently in gallup, by two to one margin people say they have been hurt. jon: rather than helped by the law. i keep my eye on the law. people's own experiences with the law and friends will have biggest impact. jenna: they will feel the impact, as you point out john, over the past few months as they live with the law. final question for both of you. big picture if you will. an interesting article what we can expect in 2014 asks this questions. it says, the key question may turn out to be how much 2014 resembles 2010. the republican last big year, the tea party powered wave that swept them into office all levels nationwide. it is clear conditions are somewhat different. caitlin, a question about that. how different? >> one difference is there aren't kind of the same kind of primaries that we saw in 2010. there are fewer in the senate.

although they are, there are people challenging republicans. mitch mcconnell is in a primary but, and, there's a primary in mississippi. but at this time we're looking at mitch mcconnell likely will survive that primary as we've seen the polling now. so the dynamics are a little bit different. there are questions on capitol hill how much strength the tea party really has these days. we've seen speaker of the house go after conservative outside groups supportive of tea party members and kind of express frustration. when it comes to the governing aspect, you know we've seen some changes over the last four years. jenna: from you, john, this is less a question about policy and more a question just about energy. >> exactly. i think the one big difference i see, the economy, not doing great is doing a lot better than 2010. on the other hand you have health care law actually into effect. we'll figure out which is bigger moat say tore. jenna: -- motivator. jenna: april it is now. we'll look forward to analysis.

we look forward to is having you back. >> thank you. >> jenna, we have new information on the 16-year-old suspect in the horrific high school stabbing attack. he is charged with as an adult with assault and attempted murder charges. pennsylvania police have the teenager as you can see in custody. he is accused of slashing 21 fellow students and security guard at the high school yesterday. we have the very latest from pennsylvania. hello, steve. >> reporter: hi, eric. this community is a clearly in shock after yesterday's horrifying attack from the school you see behind me. the one thing is for sure. they're trying to figure out what could have caused this 16-year-old young man to lash out the way he did. he is 16-year-old alex ruble. he is even here as he left the courthouse, charged with four attempts attempted homicide, 20 charges of activated assault and one count of having a weapon on campus. theres with one student there when he was finally subdued,

describe ad dramatic scene when the assistant principal sam keane intervened. here is the story. >> mr. king took off to take the kid down. i was behind him. we both jumped on him and immobilized him. i was put in a situation i didn't know what was going on until i was in the middle of it. >> do you saved lives. >> no. i think that mr. king was the main hero. mr. king immobilized him. he pinned him down. i jumped on top of him and held down his wrist and arms and tried to keep the knives stationary. >> 24 people were injured all together. some of them stabbed. some of them ininjured in the melee that ensued. one student remains in critcan. what could have caused him to lash out with two kitchen knives? nobody knows. the district attorney said during the court appearance, during the appearance yesterday, mr. peck, the d.a. said that he

said after he was apprehended said i wanted to die. the lawyer for mr. hribel had this to say about his client. >> typically a young kid. b-plus student. the family is like ozzie and harriet. they have dinner together every night. they did not see this coming. >> reporter: there are candlelight vigils and prayer vigils as some of the students knew about hribal, said he was bullied by some students. that will come under investigation. he is being held under no bail and tried as an adult. eric, back to you. >> sad and tragic but there are inspiring stories of brave heroism. steve centanni. thank you very much. jenna: we have more results from the malaysian flight 370. discovery could indicate searches are closer to finding wreckage. we'll tell you about that. urgent manhunt. police issue a warrant for a

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jenna: back now with a fox news alert. the florida highway patrol issuing a warrant for a hit-and-run driver. they say he slammed into a convertible which then careened into a day-care center. killing one child and injuring 14 others. the driver may have headed to the airport to skip town. we're not sure at this point. we're learning more about the man police say caused this tragedy. steve harrigan with the latest from miami. what do we know about the driver? >> reporter: jenna his name is robert core chad dough. 28 years old, married with young children of his own. his arrest record began when he was just 14 years old. in the past decade he has been

arrested eight separate times, sentenced to jail for several years for cocaine dealing. he also had several outstanding arrests including leaving the scene of another accident some months ago. right now the florida highway patrol is leading a multiagency manhunt for him. they say he is desperate, jenna. jenna: the day care, steve, the day-care center, i can't imagine how the families are feeling. >> reporter: this was a day of panic this. all occurred just after 3:00 p.m. this day-care center in winter park, florida, outside of orlando have been existence 25 years. some of the children in there, babies six weeks old. when the crash happened it was a real terror for the parents. >> it was heartbreaking. i was of course thought the worst, something was wrong with him. because i couldn't get through, i didn't know if something was wrong with him. so it was really hard. he is my first child. so it was extremely hard for me to just kind of process

everything. >> reporter: in addition to the 4-year-old girl who died from her injuries, one child remains in intensive care in an orlando hospital. three children in critical condition. jenna, back to you. jenna: hopefully they find the man responsible. steve, thank you. eric: jenna, there are this morning new warnings about a massive breakdown in internet security. they say your passwords and your credit card information, well all that they fear could be at risk. what we all need to know to protect ourselves coming up. plus yes there has been another ping raising the hopes in the desperate search for flight 370. coming up we'll be live what this could mean for the possibility of finally locating the wreckage. ♪

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eric: we have some new details for you now in one of the biggest security threats to hit the internet. they said it is exposing sensitive user information on websites that many of us use every single day. patti ann browne live from the breaking news desk on what we can all do to protect ourselves. patti anne, how worried should we be every time we log on because you assume it will not happy to you. >> you do but this is hitting a lot of people, eric. as we told you yesterday the internet has been hit with one of the biggest security threats it has ever seen. it is called the heartbleed bug. it create as flaw in the encryption data meant to keep your private data safe. your sensitive credit card information and passwords might have been exposed. which sites were affected and what should you do? mashable.com contacteds the most popular sites. facebook says it has not

detected suspicious activity but encourages people to set up a new password anyway. google says the search was affected, gmail, youtube, wallet, play and app. google immediately applied patches but you don't have to change your passwords but in their words, better safe than sorry. yahoo! says it was affected but it already patched its search, mail, homepage, finance, flickr and tumblr but still yahoo! recommends changing your password. amazon.com, for customers was not affected but amazon services for web operators was. they patched the flaw but they still recommend web operators for amazon change their passwords. other sights recommending updating password, godaddy, intuit, turbo tax, dropbox. last pass. okay cupid and soundcloud and one der list. notably not affected paypal, linked in, microsoft, aol.

major banks chase, e-trade and fidelity and others we'll list for you now. these sights do not use the open ssl encryption software vulnerable to the heartbleed bug. check out mashable's article online. eric: the message, change your passwords frequently. >> that really is. eric: thank you, patti ann. we'll have a lot more on the website, fox news/happeningnow so you can get the full list. >> great, thanks. jenna: the news for the hunt in the missing malaysian airlines flight with crews detecting more pings that could be from the black boxes r searchers finally closing in on the location of the wreckage? that is a big question yet again today. david piper is live with the latest in thailand. >> reporter: hi, jenna. yes, still no break through in the search for the missing malaysian airlines jet but as you said an aircraft detected fresh signals could be coming from the plane's black box.

the signals discovered by the aircraft were in the same area as earlier pings but the australian authorities believe they came from the plane's data recorders. they haven't announced yet if they're sure the pings today are from the black boxes though. they have been focusing on an area 22,000 square miles west of perth, australia. the search area narrowed considerably but still is a large area to search and ocean there is about three miles deep. australia's air chief says he is optimistic they will find the aircraft or what is left the aircraft in the not do assistant future. they want as much data by the acoustic signals before they send down a submersible robot to down on sat seafloor. they're racing against time because they fear the batteries powering the black boxes may run out soon. the people of malaysia wait ad month to find out what happened to the passenger jet.

they remain cautious that the plane's black boxes have been detected. >> as a a ma larbo take everything with a pinch of salt because there is always latest developments, latest news how they discovered, found a ping, you know and how they in the indian ocean. i don't know, i'm pretty -- >> reporter: until they can actually spot wreckage the mystery will of course continue. thank you, jenna. jenna: looking forward to the day we can report they have. as you mentioned the work continues. david piper, live in thailand, thank you. eric: jenna, this that is for sure. meanwhile a house committee is holding a very critical hear egg. will former irs official lois lerner be held in contempt of congress? she refused to answer questions about the agencies's targeting of conservative groups. could this lead to criminal charges against her? there are growing concerns about the safety and security of

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the breakthrough technology a they say could soon save lives. jury convicting a socialite of murder in the car bombing death of her ex-husband. prosecutors said she did it for the insurance money. jenna: a topic we know a lot of you are interested in. we are as well. the security of our country's electric grid. for years the experts thought the biggest threat to the power supply was a terror attack. a new study finding that the u.s. could suffer a nationwide blackout that could last for months. the energy natural resources committee is holding hearings on the issue. rich edson live in washington, d.c. with more on this. rich. >> reporter: good morning, jenna. it was a report that should have been labeled secret according to regulators. instead it ended up on the cover of "the wall street journal" this report detailed, all you have to do, hackers would have to take out several substations, major substations in the united states, you could bring down the u.s. power grid potentially for months. this is after last year a very coordinated, sophisticated attack on a major substation in

california called metcalf, raised a number of concerns in washington, d.c. so lawmakers are looking exactly how this report was released and quite frankly what happened at metcalf last year. and what is the reliability of the u.s. power grid? >> we are doing enough. we're doing the right things and we're doing the right things on a prioritized basis and we're making progress and continuously improving. the metcalf incident was serious but it is also a good example of the resiliency of the grid. no customer outages occurred during that incident. but also metcalf is an important turning point. it's a signal about looking at physical security from a different perspective. >> reporter: this hearing goes well beyond this. it is still ongoing, beyond the issues of security of that report and what happened at metcalf last year. it discusses a move away from coal as regulations begin to phase out coal in the u.s. power system. there are folks in the industry who are warning not to go too

fast on that because of issues perhaps, potentially reliability, especially if we have severe weather like we had with the polar vortex this year and extreme heat that could potentially happen in the future. back to you. jenna: just a quick question on that, rich. because of course we talked a lot about the threats to the grid because of terrorism. is it terror that it seems the government is really worried about hitting the grid, or is it just the infrastructure of the grid and whether or not it can survive, if you will, some of the natural forces that are out there? >> reporter: it is potentially all of that, jenna. when you look how interconnected the grid is, number of concerns, there is not only the attack the report detailed but there are also issues as we begin to change our fuel mix and upgrade our grid system, exactly how that will play out. when we have the blackouts and brownouts in history, they're not exactly predicted always. they just happen, a spark, lightning bolt here or there could bring down a major part of the u.s. power grid. that's what they're looking into today.

a pretty frightening situation. jenna: a good reminder for all of us, rich, get batteries and flashlights into the summer months. good thing to do. >> right. jenna: rich, thank you. >> low which is lerner does have the right to remain silent, a constitutionally protected right but lois lerner did not remain silent. her own emails refute and contradict her assertion before this committee that she did nothing wrong, that she violated no laws. she spoke falsehoods to this committee when she said she did nothing wrong. eric: that's congresswoman cynthia lummis a republican out west lashing out during a house committee hearing today. that committee will vote whether to hold former irs official lois lerner contempt of congress refusing to answer questions all on targeting conservative groups for extra scrutiny. let's talk more about this with angela mcglowan.

we have a basil smial a democratic political consultant. angela, let me start with you. the irs is supposed to be fair an honest with us. you have five days until the deadline of april 15th and lois lerner potentially held in contempt of congress. what message is there if indeed she is found in contempt? >> the message should be this happened with the president stand by one of his main campaign promise and that would be about transparency and accountability and to date we've seen nothing but. at irs, no one was fired and some people even received bonus. if we have to pay our taxes on time, again the irs is supposed to be a non-political organization that collects tax revenue. so if the president wants to actually prove himself to be a transparent administration, let the congress do its job. eric: basil, the vote likely will be on democratic, republican party lines. how could the democrats sit there and say, we'll not holder

in contempt, it is okay for her not to say anything? >> there is difference between contempt and being accountable. going to angela's point, president has been transparent. people have been fired over this. >> who? >> agree with sander levin in this case more political theater than getting to the heart of the matter. i think if the republicans are serious about being actual legislators in congress, what they do is work to reform the irs, with the democrats, rather than hold this political theater going into the november. eric: you call it political theater. angela said who, you said who has been fired. who has been really held accountable? >> wasn't the head of the irs fired or resigned? >> no, people step down and is being fired different from stepping down, basil. >> whether it was a conversation that took place and person actually resigned and was forced out, there is the fact of the matter is the leadership is no longer there. that was that may have been responsible for this.

quite frankly, and quite frankly, this has been going on for several years. you can't just hold one person accountable. if you want to hold people accountable, not only should the republicans as i said before, actually go in and decide that they want to reform the irs and reform the tax code. >> yes. >> that is reasonable, that is very reasonable alternative. but don't hold political theater to do it. eric: what about the political theater comment? do you think that is fair? did the administration break the law? >> president obama said he would get to the bottom of this right when the scandal came out. you had the head of the fbi said they were going to investigate. when he testified before congress, he didn't know, eric who was investigating it. what has eric holder done, department of justice? have they investigated? listen, congress is supposed to protect the consumer. that is why they hold congressional hearings. if you have an expert to before congress and plead the fifth, how can we get down to the bottom of this? you have certain people, eric, from administration said there

is no scandal. this is a witch-hunt. well, the bottom line, if we can't have a hearing or have people testify, we can't get down to the bottom of the problem. eric: angela, you mentioned eric holder's name. bass sir, the house ways and means committee is referring lois lerner to the justice department for possible criminal charges. what do you think of chances of that. >> i don't see that happening. that is quite unprecedented for the ways an means committee to do this. going back to my earlier comment -- >> tax writing committee, basil. >> to my point earlier, should not the ways and means committee then try to reform the irs rather than try to bring this person up on criminal charges? that is not what they do. what they do should try to reform the tax code, try to reform the irs. that is what i think is appropriate. eric: angela, last word, do you think lois lerner is going to go to the clinger? >> i think she will claim immunity and testify. clearly she is scapegoat. i think the scandal goes much

higher but as for revamping the tax code i think our congress can multitask. i think they can do hearings and also reform the it's. i don't think they're one-trick ponies. eric: we're waiting for that contempt of congress vote. we'll bring it to you when we have it. thank you you both. jenna: use the word clinker. well-played. health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius is testifying before the senate finance committee on enrollee numbers because of obamacare. take a listen. >> durings past six months millions obtained security and peace of mind of affordable health coverage. many people i met told me they have been able to get coverage for the first time in years and some have insurance for the first time in their entire lives. last week we announced that 7.1 million americans have signed up for private insurance through the marketplace. as of this week, 400,000 additional americans have signed up and we expect that number to

continue to grow. jenna: remember americans have until around april 15th to sign up and in the extended if they weren't able to sign up for obamacare for insurance through the obamacare web site. so the new number, the headline today is 7.5 million. we don't have the demographics of that number but that is the news today. people who indicated they tried to sign up but weren't able to do before the deadline were allowed a grace period. that is why secretary sebelius said we could mean 7 1/2 enrollees when all said and done. that is the headline today. eric: a lot more later on in the next hour. meanwhile the verdict for a socialite accused of plotting her ex-husband's murder. coming up we'll look at what is next for this woman, pamela phillips. take a look at these two red dots. what are they? what could they do? what do they mean? well, they could lead to a medical breakthrough they say. technology that could help scientists actually create new human hearts.

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invention that cover ad lot of ground. it is the 3d printer and it is changing a lot of our lives of the we can print all kind of things from hamburgers and other food to guns but 3d printers are revolutionizing health care as well. hopefully do we have this picture, guys? i'm not sure we have it, but apparently a duck who lost his leg in a fight and a mechanical engineer printed a new one for him. so you saw the hamburger, the guns and hopefully we'll see the duck and he has his new 3d leg because of the printer. they have skull replacement as well. researchers printed something like this as well. two cylinders are a important piece of the puzzle as they try to develop a way to print human hearts. we have dr. kevin campbell, practicing cardiologist and assistant professor of medicine at the university of north carolina. can we really do this, dr. campbell? >> i think the technology is here. from the past we've already seen

a child have a windpipe 3d printed and the children are doing well. we can do it with hearts and kidneys and other organs. i think we're probably five to 10 years down the line. jenna: how does it work? >> it works like a ink jet printer. instead of ink, you infuse the printer with stem cells and cells harvested from biopsies with a matrix. the computer programs tell it how to print the three dimensional organ. it is very complex and difficult to do but it works. jenna: tell us how difficult it is to do a heart implant from somebody else. if someone needs a new heart and hard to get that and get a match. if we were printing our own new heart based on our own cells would that make that type of transplant much easier, much more difficult? how about the real-life applications of it? >> the real world application is very significant. right now there are about 3,000 people who need heart

transplants in the u.s. there are only about 2,000 organs. which means 1000 people a year die before they get their heart. if we're able to print 3d organs we're able to offer these hearts to other people that need them and when you get a heart transplant, very complex, you're trading one disease for another. you now need medicines to prevent rejection and prevent infection. if you're transplanted with a printed heart from your own cells, this is not an issue. jenna: what about costs? is this something insurance will cover eventually? >> i think that is a long way down the line. there is lot of research and development going into it. this is issue we face as a nation, how do we pay for this sort of thing and make it accessible to everyone who needs kidneys, for example, we were talking about livers and a food stabbing at a high school and there was a puncture wound to a high schooler's liver. will he need a transplant and how difficult that is. all the organs specific to the

heart, is this something easily done for a heart muscle? is it more challenging because it is the heart? >> i think the challenging part with the heart you have to have heart muscle cells that work together in conjunction to pump blood into the rest of the body and integrate it with the valves between the chambers and the heart. i think it is very, very possible but i think we've got years ahead of us. jenna: in the more immediate, i was looking at story of the 14-year-old boy, roland, who surgeons were going to do surgery on his heart because he had some malfunctions to his heart and so what they did, they did a printing of his heart and they practiced, if you will the surgery on it. cost him like $600 to print a heart that was about his size. what about those applications on a daily basis? is that a couple years away or something you're seeing more of in your profession? >> we're seeing lots more simulations as we train young physicians to operate like i do and other physicians do. it is so important to be able to

have those practice runs. i think a three dimensional copy what you're going to operate on is very, very important. in addition we're doing research on drug trials and things like that. wouldn't it be great to actually do that trial in a real heart that's printed from 3d tissue rather than an animal model or something of that sort? jenna: brings up ethical questions we'll leave for another time. it is interesting, but at this point if anyone needs surgery i would be asking i want my own 3d heart before you go in there. >> a dry run. jenna: practice makes perfect. dr. campbell, great to see you. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. eric: jenna, absolutely amazing. coming up on the fox news channel, have you heard about this? a former socialite convicted of killing her ex-husband in a car bombing. that is pamela phillips. the trial is heading into the sentencing phase. coming up what she could face. russia continues to stir the plot in eastern ukraine. the pentagon making major moves

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jenna: right now the conflict between russia and the west showing no signs of cooling off as we get word american troops may be sent to eastern europe amid fears of another russian invasion of eastern ukraine or elsewhere. this as the pentagon announces plans to follow through on a pact with moscow to reduce our nuclear forces. major general bob scales is fox news military analyst and joins us now. start with news of this deployment. the associated press is out with a report. according to the top military command from nato they're entertaining the idea of deployment of american troops to alliance nations in eastern europe as a deterrent.

what do you think about that? >> that's a great idea, jenna, but it is not going to happen. the process is just too difficult to pull off quickly. oh, by the way the united states really is very lukewarm to sending troops back to europe. isn't it interesting, jenna, that we have the second largest tank force in the world and in europe, the world's best tank country, today, we have zero tanks in europe? so to turn around and send a brigade combat team or a couple brigade combat teams to poland or ukraine would be a great strategic move by the administration but frankly, jenna, it ain't going to happen. jenna: speaking of strategic move, should we deploy forces if we're not going to use them. >> it is called deterrence. that is what we did during the cold war. vladmir putin understands two things. he understands weakness and power. we're dealing with a former kgb case agent and powerful,

muscular reaction by the united states in confidence with the france, britain and germany i think would put a stop to silliness by mr. putin and doing a better job arming the ukrainian military. it would completely reverse this media war we seal to be losing, jenna. jenna: let me ask you about another story we're taking a look at. in context with our relationship to russia, the pentagon plans to remove 50 nuclear armed intercontinental ballistic missiles doing this, they're not destroying them. they're just moving them. >> right. jenna: to fall in line with the 2010 s.t.a.r.t. treaty we have with russia which is all about disarmiment. >> right. jenna: what do you think about that? it is a treaty, general scales, but the timing of it? >> comp, jenna, the optics on this are terrible. look, while the administration may see these two separate initiatives, the bottom line is that global marketplace of ideas, people tend to con great

these things. they see us backing off in syria. falling off our hard on iran. they see us failing to react to putin. then we sort of take 450 nuclear weapons off the table. joe citizen may not think much of that but the rest of the world is now beginning to think that america has great power but not much will, jenna. jenna: let me take the two stories at the same time. do you think we would actually deploy forces at the same time we're disarming at home? would that make sense as a strategy? >> yeah, you know as i said before, as we saw from world war ii, the ukraine is the world's most natural tank battlefield. and we are taking down our heavy brigades. these are m-1 tank brigades in the army, just as fast as we can at the very time when the global threat in europe is escalating. i mean that send, entirely the wrong signal, not only to, to

the american people, but also to countries like the baltic states and poland and ukraine who are beginning to bend under putin's pressure. the united states is disarming and putin is moving against eastern ukraine. that is not a good narrative, jenna. jenna: these are really serious topics. general scale, i appreciate when i ask you questions you sort of laugh and smile bit because it makes it easier to take in and think about. more of a friendly way to talk about it. general scales, thank you. serious topics we'll continue to watch it. no end in sight as far as conflict happening between russia and ukraine. thank you, sir. >> thank you, jenna. eric: that's for sure. today health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius is back testifying on capitol hill. she is defending the president's budget request and obamacare. what does she have to say? we'll fill you in more about that coming up. and prosecutors grilling oscar pistorius once again. we'll have the very latest from that high-profile murder trial.

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jenna: just before here on the east co, obamacare front and center on on capitol hill today as health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius takes the hot seat. hello, everybody, i'm jenna lee. eric: and hello, i'm eric shawn in for jon scott. let's take a look at some live pictures from the senate finance committee will secretary sebelius is taking questions on the president's budget request. orrin hatch asked about numerous changes and the delays to the obamacare law. the secretary, well, she pushed back saying the administration just wants to give consumers greater flexibility. >> we did not extend the open enrollment period beyond the 31st. we are giving people a chance to finish their purchase. we do not anticipate at this point, senator, additional delays. most of the policy issues are out, and what we've tried to do over the course of the four

years of implementation is do a gradual transition into a few marketplace strategy. -- a new marketplace strategy. jenna: senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendell goler is live with the latest on this. secretary sebelius has some new enrollment numbers. >> reporter: she did, jenna. 7.5 million people now have signed up for coverage under the affordable care act which is about 400,000 more than the administration be announced it signed up when the deadline ended at the end of last month. of course, the sign-up period was kept open for people who said they tried to enroll, but they'd run into problems because the web site couldn't handle them. but utah senator orrin hatch suspects a lot of the new sign-ups are people who lost their insurance because their old policies didn't meet the new standards that obamacare set, and sebelius didn't have a breakdown of those numbers. >> senator, there were a lot of plans that were adjusted to come into compliance with the law, and there were certainly people who were transitioned into new plans and given options of new

plans. i don't, i do not have data to give you right now in terms of who exactly was previously uninsured. we are collecting that. >> reporter: critics say five or six million people may have had policies that were sold on the open market that didn't meet the standards, and they say that indicates only a couple million of the new sign-ups are people who were newly insured. jenna: we'll see if we can get some of those hard numbers that can tell us exactly who's part of the 7.5 million. wendell, every day there seems to be a new study about the effects of obamacare, and there's a new one out by rand that's talking about the unexpected increase in people with employer-paid insurance because of the new health care law. walk us true that. why is that significant? >> reporter: well, that may actually be a bigger success story than the obamacare exchanges. the rand study suggests the affordable care act is prompting a lot more employers to insure

their workers than anyone had predicted, enough to cut the percentage of uninsured americans from 20% to 15%, and secretary sebelius had more to say about this. >> the recent independent rand study that just came out this week says that before even the final surge at the end of march, that by be mid march they say their additional 9.3 million people with health insurance thanks to the affordable care act -- and i can tell you that those numbers are going to be much more significant by the time we tally the new, the few comers. the newcomers. >> reporter: now, the rand study has a substantial margin of error, but congressional budget officials had predicted the number of employer-sponsored insured would only rise by about a million, so this is much more significant. jenna? jenna: an interesting angle, a different angle to explore over the next several months. wendell can, thank you. eric: well, as we continue to

monitor the senate finance committee hearing with the secretary, there are still a lot of questions about obamacare. specifically, the white house says it did hit that 7.5 million figure, how how many will actually pay? how many of those people had actually been uninsured before, and how many people have lost their previous insurance because of the law? and, of course, also, what are the questions over the health care law's meaning for the democrats in the november midterm elections. former white house deputy chief of staff for george bush karl rove wrote in "the wall street journal," quote: eric: a.b. stoddard, associate editor and columnist at the hill, and tim carney with the washington examiner both join us now. a.b., let me start with youat dn

for the democrats in november? >> well, if the election were held tomorrow, it doesn't, it is not -- it's looking very grim. there's actually a new poll out today from pew saying that the people who feel the most intensely about the law and are most, you know, motivated to vote are actually people who do not like the way that the law has turned out for them. and that's what people have to remember. it's one thing for the president to get up and say we've reached this great goal of seven million enrollees by march 31 plus more with the extended deadline, we're covering all these people and all these problems. health care's still personal. so if you're someone who got your insurance policy canceled, those estimates are somewhere between four and nine million, and you're newly insured under the program doesn't mean you're amendment. happy. insurance officials are set to raids prices for 2015. those are going to be announced by mid summer or october. if prices do go up, and it looks

like today will because of the uncertainty and the waivers and extensions and all the delays, that's going to be very tough for democrats to defend in november. eric: well, tim, that's an amazing point, late september or october, just before the election. you know the front page headlines are going to be, potentially, your insurance rates are going up. what does that mean to everyone who has insurance? >> well, obamacare, as a. b. said, is not popular. it will become less popular as those insurance rate hikes get announced. the administration has done what it could to try to delay and soften that, they actually are putting off one of the ways in which obamacare was supposed the save taxpayers money, which is cutting medicare advantage which is sort of the republicans' favorite part of medicare, and the obama administration says we're not doing this in this election year more or less. so the administration is working very hard to soften the impact that it will have on people while highlighting that there are people who benefit from this. there are people who previously couldn't get their pre-existing conditions covered. there are 26-year-olds who are

now on their parents' health care plan, so the administration is being very careful to try to politically balance a very dangerous bill for them. eric: well, a.b., what does that mean if they say they're not cutting medicaid advantage now, but let's say they do it over the next couple of years? >> well, this is really the problem, is the impression americans are getting right now of what obamacare is. that changes week in and week out, and we all know that because it's changed so many times with the extensions, waivers and delays. the administration has offered. we also don't know, the secretary says when we tally those newcomers, that is very critical data. if we find out there's an early estimate from a company called express scripts that some of the newcomers in that population are on specialty medications, they sound riskier and more expensive. once we find out this data of this new population, that's going the determine everything, whether or not this law is affordable and whether or not all the political tricks the administration has used to make

it better and give it a soft landing has actually worked. it all comes down to the price, and that's going to be determined later this year. eric: also -- >> go ahead, tim. >> if it's a sicker population as the data suggests it may be, that plays into the question of the obamacare bailout. marco rubio calls it that he's got a bill to get rated of what they call -- get rid of what they call the risk corridors. youif your profits are small oru lose money, you get a bailout from the taxpayers. we have no idea how much money that's going to be, and if that's -- if taxpayers find they are sending billions and billions of dollars to these big insurance companies while their premiums are going up all thanks to obamacare, i think that might set a very interesting stage -- eric: wow. that'd be like a blunt baseball bat maybe to some people. all right, a.b. and tim, thank you so much for explaining. seven months to go before the midterms. jenna: right now the house taking on the obama administration's decision to give up control of the internet

with lawmakers on both the house energy and commerce committees and the judiciary committee examining the white house move and pushing legislation to assign the issue to the government accountability office for further study. judiciary chairman bob goodlatte says the reason the white house wants to cede internet authority is to improve america's image around the world. he also says there are other ways to do that. >> the president and his team have failed to effectively engage and inspire confidence among those countries and citizens who traditionally viewed americans as allies. we must address this concern, but the most direct way to do so is by reforming our nation's surveillance laws to better protect civil liberties. jenna: one take there. americans are taking a strong stand on the issue. according to a brand new fox news poll, just 20% of registered voters saying the u.s. giving up control of the internet is a good thing while 66% say not so good. eric: jenna, just a short time

agnew reaction from the republican leadership to the accusations of irs targeting of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status. here's house majority leader eric cantor. >> citizens of america have a right to expect that the individual elected is going to be promoting his or her philosophy or agenda. but never was it expected that a candidate, a president or his administration was going to use a neutral instrument like the tax collection agency to further political ends. eric: the house oversight committee is now deciding whether to hold lois lerner, the former irs official at the center of this scandal, in contempt for refusing to answer questions about it. that vote is expected to be on party lines with democrats expected to support her. jenna: more drama in the oscar pistorius murder trial today during a very intense, ongoing cross-examination. the prosecutor going off on the blade runner, dismissing his very emotional testimony so far

as nothing more than a stunt. disor to have yous previously apologized to the family of his girlfriend, reeva steenkamp, but the prosecutor calling into question his sinner is today saying the apology was just a ploy to gain sympathy on the stand. a south african newspaper with a striking visual, if you can make that out, portraying the prosecutor as a pit bull attacking disto pistorius. paul tisley has been in the courtroom for every day of testimony, and he joins us now live on the phone from south africa. paul? >> jenna, or prosecutor harry knell has been living up to his three nicknames today -- bulldog, as you've just said -- pit bug and rottweiler. he really went for oscar pistorius in cross-examination all day. when the blade runner said he didn't see whether reeva steenkamp was in the bed on valentine's day last year, knell snapped: it never happened. your version was a lie. sitting in court, i could see

the blade runner's face becoming quite red. rarely did he answer knell's questions directly. often he either answered i can't remember or said he'd have to check with his defense lawyers. earlier pistorius ventured that he shot steenkamp schedulely. knell returned to this asking why did he shoot? the athlete said he thought intruders were about to come out of the toilet. >> i started shooting at that point. >> at the intruders? >> at the door, my lady. >> but in your mind, at the intruders. >> what i perceived as an intruder finish. >> so it wasn't accidentally. >> well, i'm getting confused with this accidentally and not accidentally. >> reporter: and how about this? in an obvious attempt to destroy the defense statement that theirs was a loving relationship, knell claimed to have gone through all of the messages. it was earlier claimed there were 1,700 of them on steenkamp's phone, most of them between pistorius and her.

the prosecutor stated there was not one message where the blade runner wrote, "i love you," to his girlfriend. knell said steenkamp wrote "i love you" twice, but both times, jenna, it was to her mother. jenna: interesting. so we're getting a little bit more insight into their relationship. paul, thank you very much as always. eric: and we have a fox news alert for you now. the house has just adopted budget chairman paul ryan's budget plan by a vote of 219-20 219-205. turns out no democrats voted for the ryan budget plan. 12 republicans joined them, also, in their no vote. the ryan budget plan will cut spending by more than $5 trillion over the next decade. we'll have her details about that vote -- more details about that vote as we get it. jenna: well, and another tone of news, if you will, more on the entertainment front, eric. this is an interesting announcement from cbs news, just announcing that comedian stephen colbert will replace david

letterman when he retires as host of the late show next year. colbert has, apparently, agreed to a phi-year -- five-year commitment with cbs, and i'm curious what our viewers think about it. and there's a lot of different opinions about this choice -- eric: wow. jenna: we'll see what our viewers are saying, share a little bit at the end of the show. what do you think about this? eric: man, oh, man, that's intriguing. and it happened so was. [laughter] jenna: all of a sudden you've got a new guy looking over your chair. what do you think, stephen colbert? is he the guy? eric: hasn't been the same since johnny left. jenna: well, that's also probably true as well. eric: the battle between ranchers and the federal government is taking a serious turn out west. why armed agents are surrounding one family's property. and you may soon have some more options for fresh fruits and vegetables. the grocery giant that's hoping to take a bite out of the organic food market. ♪ ♪ starts with back pain...

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68-year-old clive bundy whose family began grazing cattle here in the 1800s, well before the bureau of land management took the land to protect the endangered desert to have -- tortoise. >> my stand is i have no contract with the united states government, and you do not own this land. this is land that's part of the sovereign state of nevada. >> which is just one of the consequences of allowing the federal government to come out here and to access this land. >> reporter: the feds already seized 300 of bundy's cattle to repay grazing fees they claim he owes. the issue of public use dates back to to the sage bush rebellion when rancher wayne age and others fought for more local control of public land. fox profiled it in a one-hour special, "enemies of the state." many feel the feds don't manage the property fairly.

>> inherently wrong, in my opinion, and i think the collective opinion of the commission is that we would take the private property of an individual and confiscate it. >> reporter: nevada's governor and senator dean heller accuse the administration of overreach and violating resident cans' right of free speech and access, but the feds, eric, are refusing to back down, so this could go on for some time. eric: yeah. a big issue out west. thank you, william. jenna? jenna: well, high drama at the oscar pistorius murder trial, the prosecutor ripping into the blade runner's testimony. will the aggressive tactics sway the judge? plus, fresh controversy for iran's new ambassador to the u.n. a stunning accusation adding to his problems, but the iranians refusing to back down. eric goes doing to have more on that story coming up. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu.

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jenna: right now fireworks going off at the oscar pistorius murder trial. the blade runner getting grilled in some dramatic cross-examination. earlier this week pistorius broke down in tears as he apologized to the family of his girlfriend, reva steven catch, but today the prosecutor not buying it, ripping into the olympic athlete as thinking about only about himself. >> i say that your life is just about you, what's important to oscar. oscar shouldn't get into trouble, this shouldn't get into the media. you were very concerned about oscar. you started your ed off in this -- your evidence off in this court with an apology. >> i apologized, if i can remember, for the sorrow that i, for the sorrow that i've caused the steenkamp family. >> did you think how they would experience that, how this only mattered about oscar pistorius? >> i did think about them, my lady. >> why weren't you humble enough

to do it in private? talk to somebody about it and do it in private. you weren't humble enough to do that. >> that's not true, my lady. jenna: trial attorney and criminal defense attorney join us now. rebecca, what do you think of the style of the prosecutor? effective? >> well, it can be effective. we're looking at a non-jury trial, so there's a judge and two others who are going to weigh in on this case. with a jury present, if there was a jury, this is a very aggressive maneuver. i mean, extremely aggressive prosecutor. but when you just have a judge and you know the disposition and you have a woman who the prosecution is claiming was really killed in cold blood, this is extremely, to me, effective. very effective. jenna: let me just take a moment, phil, and play a sound bite from paul tillsly, he was inside the courtroom, and he described to us what oscar pistorius looked like as the prosecutor's really going after him today. let's take a listen.

>> i could see the blade runner's face becoming quite red. rarely, did he answer questions directly. often he either answered i can't remember or said he'd have to check with his defense lawyers. jenna: so, phil, what do you think? effective as rebecca says? is oscar pistorius behaving the right way to help his defense? >> well, i disagree with that reporter's statement. i found him to be a shell, pitiful, sad, depressed, contrite. i think the apreach of trying -- approach of trying to paint him as a monster, i don't think that's gaining traction. i think there's certainly a debate that he's telling the truth, but there's no debate that he's sorry, and i do not think the approach is necessarily working with the judge. jenna: the prosecutor's trying to bring up, of course, the inconsistencies of oscar's take of different can situations that happened. so i'm going to play a sound bite for our viewers. it's from samantha taylor, she's the former girlfriend of oscar

pistorius describing him and his behavior during the prosecution's side of the case. let's take a listen to that. >> according to him that if he screams and he's really anxious, he sounds like a woman. >> that is not true. he sounds like a man. i've seen him be very anxious -- >> and -- [inaudible] >> at myself. jenna: okay. so that was march 7th. here's what oscar pistorius said about that testimony today. >> i screamed at -- have you screamed at samantha taylor before? >> i don't ever remember screaming at samantha taylor, my lady. i screamed at one of her friends that day who was at my house, but i never screamed at ms. taylor. >> but you heard her evidence. she said you screamed at her. on various to cases. >> my lady, there were many things in ms. taylor's evidence

that were lies. jenna: so his defense attorney didn't take that up too much with samantha taylor, but he's on the stand saying, essentially, that she lied. and this has come up where he said that's actually not the truth, all these people are not telling the truth. is that working for him? is he believable? >> i just think it make him sound very weak, and i don't think he should be aggressively saying she's lying. he should just answer the question, i'm sorry, no, that is not how i see it. no. but for him to constantly have to explain, no, i never screamed at the girl -- who's more believable? someone who has a fact pattern that just doesn't make sense, it just doesn't make sense that he didn't look over to see if his girlfriend was in bed before he shot into that bathroom. and now to call someone a lie or car on the stand as a defendant in this case, to me, is not a good move. he should just say yes or no to every answer. jenna: do you agree with that,

phil? >> i think it's debatable, but the key to of her testimony is that his voice is raised or not raised when he screams, and i think the evidence is going to be clear that he breaks down, he's very emotional and sad. and i think that it's possible for the judge to look at him on the stand and his voice changing inflection to say that when he does scream, it is certainly possible that it sounds like a woman. so, again, to answer your question, i probably wouldn't advise my client to say someone's lying, but i think based on nel's aggressive style, i think that's the only option he has. jenna: a judge got involved in some of this from the prosecution. especially when the prosecution was asking whether or not oscar pistorius ever said that he loved reva, and the judge was sort of really attentive the that part of it, rebecca, and i'm curious as to why. >> well, you know, that's just -- it falls right into the whole concept of what happens in this case. was he in love with this girl, or was he abusive to her? did the abuse continue over the course of time and end in a fatal shooting, or was this just

a mistake in the judge will want to know, what was that relationship? jenna: phil? >> you know, she's focused on it so, obviously, it's important to the judge, and that's really all that matters. i don't think the fact that he may or may not have texted her i love you carries that much significance. it's really an overarching theme of whether he loved this girl or in a fit of rage he shot her through the bathroom door. jenna: reeva was bringing up issues she was having in the relationship, and oscar wasn't really engaging on text message. so an interesting part of trial. rebecca, phil, thank you very much to you both. eric: well, jenna, a kidnapping victim rescued hundreds of miles from home. the investigation now focusing on why the man was taken in the first place. the potential mettive that you're going to want to hear. and fireballs lit up the night sky. take a look at that. a building completely destroyed. we'll have the latest on the investigation into what may have caused this. co: sometimes you don't know you need a hotel room

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jenna: video just in to fox news a building explode in oklahoma sending balls of fire and heavy smoke into the sky. take a look at this. investigators say the facility houses various chemicals, including gas. much of the metal building melted due to the extreme heat of this fire. workers reported hering multiple blasts. no word what ignited the chemicals. one employee was treated for minor burns. people in the area are warning

to avoid the site because it could carry dangerous fumes. we'll keep you posted. eric: five people are charged in the kidnapping of a north carolina man rescued in georgia. elite fbi team stormed an apt complex where they found frank jensen. now they say it may have been gang-related. jonathan serrie live with details from atlanta. hi, jonathan. >> reporter: hi, john hand. the rescue went down over an apartment complex in southeast atlanta. the fbi sent in a elite hostage rescue team which successfully recovered the victim before midnight. five individuals face kidnapping charges in connection with this case. the victim, frank arthur january son is safe spending five nights in the hands of what investigators describe as a group of very dangerous people. janzen was reported missing from his home in wake forest, north carolina, on april 5th. investigators say his family received specific demands. while investigators would not

elaborate on what these demands were, they described them as quote, for the benefit of kevin melt ton. well, kevin melton is an inmate at north carolina's polk correctional institution where he is classified as a violent habitual felon. >> melton was previously prosecuted by frank johnson's daughter who is assistant district attorney. and as a result, melton received a state sentence of life without parole. >> reporter: the investigation is still ongoing and involves multiple law enforcement agencies but mr. january son is back home safe after a frightening five day-ordeal. eric, back to you. eric: wow, that is amazing. jonathan, thank you so much. jenna: a move that is very interesting for walmart, one of the biggest companies in the united states. walmart is going organic in a very big way ratcheting up pressure on its rivals offering high quality, organic produce at a lower price.

fox business's adam shapiro is here. the question is how low? >> reporter: how low can they go, right? it won't be whole paycheck as some are accused off. walmart needs to attract customers back to its stores after more than a year of watching sales drop. the decision to team up with wild oats, the nation second largest organic grocer will allow people who shop at walmart to purchase everything from salsa to pasta, roughly 100 wild oat's organic products at 2,000 walmart stores in addition to food not labeled as organic. eventually they will expand and sell the organic products to 4,000 outlets. upside for you, cheaper prices. organic food tends to cost more but the size of walmart combined with wild oats will epthem drop prices. they would handle preharvest purchases from farmers like tomatoes which will lower the cost and lower the price

eventually hopefully to us. jenna: adam, consumers will get lower prices as you mentioned but what about walmart? is this really, is this in their best interests in. >> reporter: will they make money, right? i think the best way to say that, they better. shares of walmart were trading up on this news in the early part of the morning. in the last 10 years the organic food market grew from $5.7 billion to $12 billion. you might say walmart wants a piece of that pie. studies indicate a quarter of all americans regularly purchase organic products. that is double from 10 years ago and it is growing. nobody most that better than walmart's competitor, whole foods or manny's. they have been trading down since the opening bell. walmart is trading down as well. this is a big move for walmart. >> i still think about the small farmer's markets i prefer. >> reporter: you like to go to union square and -- jenna: even new york city you can get local. >> reporter: you're a local for.

jenna: that's good to know. localvor. eric: didn't know that. have you heard about this story? it is pretty shocking. iranian diplomat accused of taking partthe iranian hostage crisis. he face as new controversy. we'll have the new explosive accusation ahead. are plus a frightening new photograph from al qaeda, the terror group's magazine, yes, they apparently have a magazine what it is showing and why. ♪ and i got the tools ♪ to do it my way ♪ i got a lock on equities ♪ that's why i'm type e ♪ ♪ that's why i'm tyyyyype eeeee, ♪ ♪ i can do it all from my mobile phone ♪ ♪ that's why i'm tyyyyype eeeee, ♪ ♪ if i need some help i'm not alone ♪ ♪ we're all tyyyyype eeeee, ♪ ♪ we've got a place that we call home ♪ ♪ we're all type e ♪

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1993. he was shot to death in rome going to work for the opposition. meanwhile the hostage crisis could prevent the incoming ambassador from getting a visa to take up his post a short time ago. just a moment ago, the house approved a measure is that would bar him from entering the united states. the senate passed its unanimously but will president obama sign it when it comes to his desk? kt mcfarland joins us now. this is an unbelievable story. a diplomat being accused of quote, the mastermind, says the opposition of this but iranians deny it. >> of course they are going to deny it. what are they trying to do? what they are trying to do i think is three things. send a signal to their own people. see what we can do, we can take somebody who took american diplomats and hostage and tortured them and send them back to america. that is how powerful we are. it sends a symbol to the american world. look at us, iran and we can treat america like a dog. we'll kick them around and come

back and beg to have us pat them on the head and lick our hand. we're saying to the arab world, look what we've done to a superpower. we humiliated he them and honor us. eric: they said he was translator. >> doesn't matter. eric: new allegations of alleged involvement in this plot to assassinate the defector back in 1993. aboutalebi, the iranians deny this of course, at the time, the opposition says that there are german police reports and court papers that accuse him of this from an iranian defector. the guy who was killed, mohammed nadi, 42 years old. it happened on march 16th, 1993. driving to work as head of national council of resistance in iran in rome when two guys pull up in motorbike and shoot him in his car while driving. his long-time companion, they were together for 17 years, she says she thinks that he was involved. her quote is quote, i think that

aboutalebi was involved in the death of my partner. all roads lead to the iranian embassy in road and the ambassador. here you have the partner who is quoted as saying this guy was involved in this murder. what can we do about isn't. >> we can deny a visa to the united states. now iran can propose he goes to the united nations. remember the united nations is in new york. it is not as if he is coming to the u.s. he is coming to the united nations. what we can do is prevent him from arriving in united states. we deny his visa. this is why it is important, eric. because what he did or didn't do, we know he didn't do very good things. you want to tell me this is the only guy in entire nation of iran who is suitable to being iranian ambassador to the united nations? they're doing this deliberately. it is provocative. the next step if we give him a visa, he comes to the united nations as ambassador to the u.n., what happens when united states and iran normalize relations when we exchange ambassadors which we'll do best end of the obama administration.

eric: you really think that? you think the administration -- >> that is where they're headed with these negotiations. they talked about normalizing -- eric: iran on this case of aboutalebi, iran is being defiant. >> sure they are. eric: from the iranian mission, the story is nasty and calculated attempt by mek, that is the iranian resistance, riding on recent news wave of ambassador aboutalebi using all media as bugle. this is mockery of professional journalism to consider this nonsense as fair and objective reporting. look, the foreign minute city, they're sticking by the guy. he is competent to represent them in the united nations and they're not backing down. >> if they really wanted to do something nice for the united states they wouldn't propose this guy. they realize it would cause us problems. they're doing this deliberately. they're trying to humiliate us. they're trying to show how nowerful they are. at the end of the day, my guess if we let this guy into the u.s. to represent at the u.n., the next step will be they will propose him to be iranian

ambassador to the united states. for us when, we say that was 30 years ago. who knows what he did, ancient history, for the iranians it was like it was yesterday. eric: he wasn't charged in this alleged assassination plot. pros in italy would not comment to us about. he faced no charges. what should president obama do if he get this is -- >> i think the state department said they want to deny the visa. they said it is a troubling appointment. we should deny -- don't explain why. don't lit gate it. eric: the white house said, quote, not viable. that is diplomatic language. what does that really mean? >> we won't get into all the details. we're not comment. no thanks. send somebody else. eric: you think what will happen? >> i hope what will happen we deny the visa. iranians say, okay we've got another guy we'll send up, the second runner-up. if we let this guy into the united states it is deliberately sending a message to the world that the iranians and anybody else can humiliate the united states and there is no penalty to be paid. eric: kt mcfarland, thank you

of course for your analysis. >> thank you. eric: jenna? jenna: eric, a disturbing new picture from al qaeda. the terror group official magazine showing a shuttle train at san francisco airport, along with caption urging readers to make their own bombs. all this sparking a lot of serious concern as i'm sure you can appreciate. here we are ahead of one-year bombing of the boston marathon. so there is certainly heightened alert. this caught our attention. so we wanted to show it to you. meantime new developments in the stabbing rampage at a pennsylvania high school as one victim is speaking out about his terrifying ordeal and the moment he realized he had been stabbed. the latest in a live report on that. plus, listen up stargazers. there is cosmic treat around the corner. what is about to happen and why some are not so happy about it.

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jenna: fox news alert. we're awaiting remarks from the president in austin, texas, today, marking 50 years since president lyndon johnson signed the landmark civil rights act of 1964. casey stiegel is live at the lbj presidential library in austin with the latest. casey. >> reporter: jenna, good to see you. we just got word president obama arrived here on campus and his keynote address is supposed to start at the top of the hour, at noon local time, 1:00 eastern. you know the president and first lady traveled to texas yesterday to attend the memorial service down at fort hood. now the purpose of this three-day summit at the lbj library in as you thin is really two-fold. number one, as you said it is to celebrate 50 years since president lyndon baines johnson signed the historic civil rights act of 1964 which ended segregation in public places and banned employment

discrimination. then a year later, of course he signed the voting rights act which removed a lot of barriers that prevented african-americans from voting. but number two, this is also designed to point out that we still have an awful lot of work to do. it did not end with lbj's work in the '60s. there are many modern-day civil rights issues this country is faced with like immigration and gay marriage. the work that has to be done has been the recurring theme throughout this three-day summit. tuesday night, former president jimmy carter talked an awful lot about gender equality. where he thinks we are still lacking on that front, not just at home but abroad. then last night, former president bill clinton addressed the issue of recent changes to the voting rights act such as new voter i.d. laws which he believes is taking one giant step backwards. listen to president clinton. >> i am concerned that on this

50th anniversary these divisions and the lack of a spirit of coming together put us back in the dustbin of old history. >> reporter: president george w. bush will close out the summit. he will be speaking tonight. again we're waiting on president obama's remark, scheduled to start at the top of the hour. jenna. jenna: when they do, casey, wee bring our viewers back there to see his live remarks. casey stiegel in austin, thank you. eric: from the lone star state to all the stars up there, sky gazers are in for a rare treat. there will be four eclipses, including total lunar eclipse. not everybody is happy about it. brown brown in the new york newsroom with the latest. >> total lunar eclipse means the moon will be entirely in the earth's shadow.

in north and south america some will see what is called a blood moon. it is expected to be a dramatic shade of copper due to light scattered by the either's atmosphere. the phase which it is totally eclipsed starts 3 . 06 eastern testimony next tuesday morning. it will last about 7minutes. but the partial darkening starts two hours before that and ends hours later. unlike a solar eclipse you can look straight at this without eye protection. this is one of four eclipses that will occur this year. two solar, two lunar. the so called it. etrad is getting tanks due to a recent book that claims four blood moons is a sign of impending doom. of course this one happens on tax day which already spells doom for some folks. and tuesday's eclipse could also jeopardize a moon probe. nassda's lunar reconnaissance orbiter needs sunlight to recharge its batteries. nasa is taking precautions but can't guaranty the spacecraft won't die during the eclipse.

but probe is near the end of the mission anyway due to crash into the far side of the moon later this month. eric. eric: patti ann, can't wait but they say it will be raining and cloudy at least in the northeast. >> you can see sequences of it through the clouds they think. eric: we'll try. jenna? jenna: a piece of parchment mentioning the wife of jesus. is it forgery or the real thing? the test results are in just ahead. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition inharge™.

scientist say a faded piece of parchment mentioning the wife of jesus is ancient. some say it a modern-day forgery. the egyptian parchment is the first known reference to jesus having a wife. the hafshal journal will publishing the review.

>> and stefan cobert. replacing letterman? >> late night talk is not what it used to be. and best of luck to him. and some say it is great. and o'brian said depends on which stephen cobert shoes up. >> fox news alert. we are waiting president obama's key note address in the lbj library in austin texas. making it 50 years since johnson signed the land mark legislation in law. kwh when mr. obama begins to speak we'll bring you live to theentious vent. >> a fox news alert. can congress haul lois lerner to jail? that is a question as the house committee isvo