that way you will never miss the show. it's so easy and you won't miss a minute. did. vr series record it good night from washington. see you monday. the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> early march, kathleen sebelius told me she would be moving on. >> after five rocky years and a disastrous obamacare launch, kathleen sebelius is finally out. >> she has got bumps, i have got bumps, bruises. >> if there is anyone that believes that the color of the president is not an issue, they are not realistic. >> also, congressman charlie rangel ups the ante in the race debate pretty much saying anybody who disagrees with the president is a racist. we will debate it. >> it's already recycling about. [gasps] >> what was that, a bat? was that a bat?

is that somebody throwing something at me? >> hillary clinton dodging critics figuratively and literally. we'll have a report. >> that part of cirque du soleil? caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ ♪ hi, everyone, i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. what it takes to get fired from the obama administration. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. everybody was making nice at the white house today as the president thanked outgoing hhs secretary kathleen sebelius for her fine work on the affordable care act. >> under kathleen's leadership, her team at h.h.s. turned the corner,

got it fixed, got the job done, and the final score speaks for itself. there are 7.5 million people across the country that have the security of health insurance, most of them for the very first time and that's because of the woman standing next to me here today. >> and sebelius is proud of what her team accomplished for the uninsured. >> their stories are so heartening about finally feeling secure and knowing they can take care of themselves and their families. unfortunately, a page is missing. [ laughter ] so i am just grateful for having had this wonderful opportunity. >> so was sebelius fired? who knows. although just 11 days ago she told the huffington post, quote: absolutely, i'm. in and staying through at least november. my question is, how on earth did she keep her job past

last november let alone until now? she oversaw one of the most abysmal product rollouts since the new coke. for that alone she should have been fired. what did obamacare actually achieve? well, many of those 7.5 million obamacare enrollees are people who had their policies cancelled because of obamacare. also, the huge job losses, premium hikes, out-of-pocket costs soaring. doctors are retiring early, independent physician practices are disappearing. and the list goes on and on. no corporate ceo or ncaa coach would have survived with a comparable win/loss ratio. obama kept sebelius on for as long as he did did for political reasons. he doesn't like to fire people because doing so admits his fallibility and also gives his critics fodder. why after fast and furious, after benghazi, after the irs targeting is eric holder

still a justice? and by the way why was susan rice actually given a promotion? i suspect the real reason that sebelius is leaving has more to do with all of you voters with the midterm election looking grim for his party, the president could not keep the faith of healthcare reform in place. and come election day you have the chance to rid us of a lot more people who are in over their heads and who overpromised and under deliver. that's the memo. now on to the top story. what took so long for kathleen sebelius to go? bill asked the president about this back in february. >> why didn't you fire sebelius, the secretary in charge of this because i mean, she had to know after all those years and all that money that it wasn't a. >> my american people. >> i'm sure the infenton is noble. i'm a taxpayer. i'm paying kathleen sebelius' salary and she screwed up and you are not holding her accountable.

>> i promise you we hold everybody up and down the line accountable. with when we are midstream, bill. we want to make sure that our main focus is how do we make this thing work? >> joining us from washington fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry. ed, great to see you. >> good to see you. >> so what did happen here? i mean, she is on that live interview on march 31st, she said absolutely i'm staying in through november at the least through november. and then suddenly this. >> it may not have really been up to her in the end. obviously she always served at the pleasure of the president. the fact of the matter is the story they are saying now she approached the president in early march and said look, i think i want to move on. offered a resignation. when we asked did the president ask her to reconsider, there was no answer. that suggests the president didn't want her to stick around. that was way back in early march before that huff post interview. so the obama line is they didn't want to announce that in early march because they saw a surge in signups

coming in. they finally had some good news after all the bad news. the last thing they wanted to do was to stump the mow tum and have all that stuff. today rose garden turn the page on the bad stuff. look that was sebelius. they said nice things about her, of course, in the rose garden. now, new leadership and they are trying to turn the page. unfortunately for her, she couldn't literally turn the page and it was sort of one last glitch for her after a series of them. >> no, no, no. that was like the crash, ed. >> symbolic. >> that happened on the web site during her hearing on capitol hill. i mean, i actually felt really bad for her. i mean, after everything that happened, i feel worse for the taxpayers, but after everything that happened, and then her one moment to say, look, we got these signups, and where is the page? they seem to be missing a lot of pages at the white house. >> she took a lot of hits for this obviously. ultimately the president, it's the person in the oval office who is going to take the heat for it. >> yeah. tell us about sylvia burwell. what i find interesting about her background is her

connection back to the clintons and the justice -- i mean in the clinton treasury department. and her friendship with the clintons themselves. tell us. >> that may be in part because she also ran the wal-mart foundation. they are obviously very powerful in arkansas. she does have some of those ties. i think on the positive side for her though that we should note is that she has some business experience. she ran a large operation. that's a criticism republicans have had about the obama cabinet missing people who ohave actually met payrolls and ran large projects. maybe that was something sebelius as a former governor was missing. and a former insurance commissioner. look, burwell passed 96-0 just a year ago as white house budget director. this is a different job. when you have john mccain out there tweeting she is great choice. i think she is likely to be confirmed, but the real action is going to be the confirmation hearing. when sebelius has been up there, you know, taking a beating, she hasn't been willing to turn over the data about how many people have really paid in, how many people are really covered. not just who signed up.

now with burwell going up there trying to be confirmed there is leverage for republicans on the hill. mitch mcconnell and others are saying they are going to try to get that information. >> ed, the president said most of the people who signed up, the 7.5 million. most of them were previously uninsured. is that correct? >> we just don't know that i think the fact that the president also said in the rose garden we had problems in the first quarter. he suggested now we are further along in the game. second quarter, third quarter, you pick. what's more important is the final score. this is not the final score. this there is a lot more implementation of this to go and a lot more political battles ahead, laura. >> ed, thanks so much. directly ahead, president obama's turn at the same podium where attorney general eric holder made some inflammatory comments this week. implying that racism is behind criticism of both him and his boss. right back with that report. (mom) when our little girl was born, we got a subaru.

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gave the key note address today. spho cussing on the voting rights act while taking a shot at republicans. >> the right to vote is threatened today in a way it has not been since the voting rights act became law nearly five decades ago. across the country, republicans have led efforts to pass laws making it harder, not easier, for people to vote. >> joining us now from new york is rich benjamin senior fellow at demos and author of the book searching for white utopia: rich, it's

great to see you. here is what i am wandering wandering -- wondering about okay? >> the anniversary of the civil rights act. the president wants to commemorate that all the former presidents did. take a moment partisan attack on republicans who want -- some want more voter i.d., integrity at the polls. we turn a moment which should be a bipartisan moment into a real partisan frame of speaking. i find that to be frankly reprehensible but it doesn't surprise me, your response. >> well, laura, democracy itself is not partisan. it's not about protecting republicans. it's about protecting our democracy. something that's very important here on the milestone of this crucial bill that you have benefited from, that i have benefited from. so, that's the way the president sees it. this fundamental right to vote that we need to protect for everybody's good. and so it's democracy when you protect it is really not

a partisan move. >> this is about race here. for the president, this is about race. is he speaking about this at an incredibly important event that commemorates racial equality and so forth and on the heals -- heels of what eric holder this week. intimating the reason he is being questioned about four dead americans or irs targeting or any of these irs scandals is because of the color of his skin. now, he is the attorney general of the united states. is he supposed to enforce the law across the board without regard to party politics instead this week he turns his position into a battering ram against the republican party using this sickening and incredible race card again. again, i find that to be -- to what the civil rights movement was supposed to be about all about. he has an opportunity. i think he is failing as attorney general. not because is he black, but because is he doing a really lousy job. that doesn't make me a racist. go ahead. >> well, i don't think eric holder would agree he is failing. a, he didn't say he was

failing and b he didn't say he was failing because of his race. rather, what we saw today was a civil rights group that works on behalf of all americans gathering and the president remarking a civil rights legislation and commenting on the right to vote. it's going to be very important because, from wisconsin to ohio, and all these important swing states that are going to matter, not only in 2014, but in 2016, winning the right to vote of several. >> rich, rich, this is an attempt to deflect, right? your own think tank did a study about black and brown unemployment. i'm sure you are aware of the study, are you not? the crisis in black and brown youth unemployment, your organization commented on what's happened to young african-american and latino males over the last several years. and it is disastrous. >> we are proud of that study. we are proud of the study. but we have also done work building pathways to the -- building pathways to the middle class for all americans regardless of race

and so this has. >> pardon? >> don't you think that is the real crisis today? young african-americans and latino males and everybody, frankly? >> jobs is a crisis, democracy is a crisis. what the president spoke of today is a crisis. when people are limited in terms of voting hours and voting times interms of restricting voter ids that's also a crisis along. >> is it a hard thing to get a voter i.d.? >> for some people it is. not for you not for i, 25% abided by the law findo it difficult to get voter ids. we have to honor that if we are interested in them voting we have to let them vote. >> it's a lot harder to get a job than it is, of course, to get voting is fairly easy not very difficult that's the crisis in america. so i wish all of you folks would focus on that. >> why is the right to vote then? >> people voting who is qualified to vote and have a

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in the impact segment tonight. the growing backlash against jeb bush. the former florida governor set off a firestorm this week after calling illegal immigration an act of love. and bush is not backing down. he will defended his comments during a speech in connecticut last night. >> just last week i made some statements about immigration reform apparently generated a little more news than i anticipated. you know, i have been saying this for the last three or four years. i said the exact same thing that i have said regularly.

the simple fact is there is no conflict between enforcing our laws, believing in the rule of law and having some sensitivity to the immigrant experience, which is a part hough we are as a country. >> joining us now with reaction from for the worth texas is immigration attorney francisco hernandez. francisco, good to see you. >> good to be here. >> i wasn't all that surprised about jeb bush's initial comments. because that is kind of where he comes from. he believes in his heart of hearts and i think it is heart felt that we as a society have a moral duty to the people already here illegally. i think he believes that. people convicted felons, think it's important for us as americans to do something for people who are, many of them are hard working and good people. that doesn't really surprise me. i will tell you what i think does bother people. is that there is not a comparable compassion, right, for the middle class

of this country, not seeing flat line or go down a little bit. comment passion for immigrant legal and illegal. not all that much by people affected by illegal immigration. go ahead? >> first of all a human being can't be illegal. frankly the middle class employing all of this undocumented immigration. quite frankly there is no moral duty or obligation. all these folks want to do is have an opportunity to buy their ticket on the bus and get a piece of the american pie who can blame them. people in the most prosperous countries in the world want to why offenses. there is all kinds of things we can agree on. quite frankly we passed a lot of draconian laws all over the state supposedly to prompt the federal government to act. and here we are, those laws were overturned and we still can't get the federal government to act.

both sides. here we are, when they are finally trying to act, we are not doing anything. we are opposing it. jeb bush, he has been consistent. his wife is mexican. >> i think he has been pretty consistent on this issue. i will give you that. i'm trying to get to you see what the other side thinks. it's not as someone would say it's not nativist. not because people don't like brown-skinned people. i think overwhelming majority of people who want to enforce the laws first and do it for period of time before any amnesty goes through. i think they are really worried about sovereignty, security, terrorism. i think they are worried about wages and depressing wages. i think those are real concerns. those are legitimate concerns are they not, for any country, including ours? our duty, first is is to ourselves. our people, legal immigrants. and if we can can help other people, that's great. but if we cease to have a country, and a roughly law that's applied equally, then there really is no help for immigrants or for our own people. the whole thing now ends up

going up in smoke. >> it could. but, look, if we are talking about security and terrorism, then we want to know who they are. let's separate the people that are building us from the build people that want to terrace down. >> how are you going terrace tear us down. >> people involved in criminal activity, they are going to register? are they going to come to some office and register and say, look, i'm a member of a gang and do narco trafficking. i molested somebody? they are not going to do that they are going to stay in the country because they're not going to be deported until they are caught. >> we are not talking about those. we are talking about the hard working folks who feed their families and here hard working sacrificing for their families. go in and register and give them a work permit. contribute to the tax ways. give them a chance to contribute instead of being taken advantage of. they are not complaining much. quite frankly i bet if you take the unemployment rate

among that community, you're going to find the unemployment rate is very very low. u.s. citizens, even our. >> probably be employed. one thing i have got to say is that you said most of the middle class is employing these people. i don't think most in the middle class have fancy companies doing their yard work or doing their construction though. i live in a nice community. and i can tell you this. that it's not the middle class that is saying, gee, we need to have more illegal immigrants in here in our public schools or in emergency rooms. they are north saying that. okay? they want their lives to get better and they don't want to demonize people. but they want their job opportunities and prospects to improve. maybe if that happens, maybe people will have a lot more in the way of compassion for people who are here unlawfully. but i think people are hurting francisco. >> but, ms. ingraham. quite frankly, i bet the camera guy standing right in front of me would take a whole lot more money to get up on my roof to exchange my

roof doing jobs quite frankly lower and middle class enforces to take. >> they all were lazy again. that argument is not a winner. i appreciate -- i appreciate you coming on. by the way, a lot of us were waited trusses. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. mostly cloudy learns all about shoe leather politics in vegas. as former president jimmy carter slams her tenure as secretary of state. what it all means for her potential run in 2016 in a moment. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.

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in the unresolved problem segment tonight, hillary clinton still not saying publicly she will run for president. if she does she might have to prepare for more of this. >> it's already recycling about -- [gasps. [. >> what was that, a bat? , was that a bad? is that somebody throwing something at me? is that part of cirque du soleil? my goodness, i didn't know solid waste management was so controversial. thank goodness she didn't play softball like did i. >> ouch. now hillary is taking flack from former president jimmy carter over foreign policy. carter tells "time" magazine as secretary of state hillary clinton took very little action to bring about peace in the middle east. joining us with reaction is

goodstein former advisor and strategist to 2008 campaign. the shoes are already flying i hope it was designer shoe. >> i think she showed great humor. >> honey, i i forgot to duck. she has probably dealt with worse. >> she pro, richard. the only thing that would have been better if she caught the shoe and walked down and actually handed it to whoever it was -- whomever it was that threw the shoe. that would have been great. >> one thing you have not seen on fox news i have seen her swing a bat on the back lawn of the white house in the ken burn series and they celebrated that batting cage. can you tell she has played softball. >> only thing hillary and i have probably had in common other than being mothers. both of us are softball players. so i have to say i actually like that comment about the softball comment. so i'm going to say she handle that well. so. looking at these polls right in iowa.

doesn't surprise me about huckabee at all. he gets the pulse of the conservative base and active in iowa. hillary clinton is so far ahead of elizabeth warren who is a favorite if you are a liberal you might want a hoirl might support the nasa deal. keystone pipeline. bill does. you can sense hillary moving to middle on these issues. warren would be on the war path for liberalism. >> can we bottle the notion that some commentators on fox news think that hillary is really not a liberal that she is a centrist. i think in fact that's what she is going to do. embrace the dlc approach. >> am i wrong? >> i absolutely think she'll. >> do you not say she will be for keystone pipeline. >> at the end of the day she will say that oil is going to go somewhere it might as well come to the u.s. the fact of the matter is elizabeth warren as we know famously signed that letter

contest hillary clinton is not going to be able to walk through. if you are a liberal and you have had obama in there have someone to run a warren. your choice is hillary clinton. i mean, liberals have -- i mean, if i were liberal i would be ticked off. let's go for the whole thing this time. move on to jimmy carter. when he tells "time" magazine that, you know, to say the least is he not very thrilled with her foreign policy efforts, middle east peace, john kerry has been answering questions about that she was pressed, i believe, the other day on her foreign policy accomplishments as well or the president was being pressed on this, what are the foreign policy accomplishments other than she flew around a lot? >> so, this network is probably not embracing jimmy carter's endorsement for anything as kind of a foundation for a particular position, probably been a long time, john kerry has

lee second term secretary of state does. hillary clinton has a lot of accomplishments. i would say the paramount one when barack obama was saving the economy from the precipice, she was salvaging the u.s. reputation around the world in 2006, 2007, 2008 when george bush traveled internationally he was in a bubble. he didn't come close to the public, even in friendly countries in the u.k. where barack obama and hillary clinton are met with this tumultuous welcome every place they go. to this day, when obama is traveling and hillary is well, they are embraced by people from top to obama of poor countries and rich alike. >> richard, i'm honestly, i can't even believe what i'm hearing. i'm not saying they are personally -- people don't personally think she is a nice person or very experienced. i'm not saying that what i'm saying is an accomplishment. we are not talking about a personality. we are talking about accomplishments. middle east is still in total turmoil. no closer on the middle east. eastern europe is now afraid of what putin is going to do

next. china is on the move and apparently taiwan. i wouldn't want to be taiwan today given what we have done and our reaction to ukraine and other parts of the world. how do you chalk up foreign policy victories with the chess board as it is today for the united states? >> i think elevating the u.s. standing in the world is not an insubstantial kind of accomplishment. let's go, number one. >> we are not elevated at all. we look feckless. >> she got china to agree with sanctions against iran. she got a coalition against qaddafi which reagan failed to take out. she was a beacon around the world for women and children. she supported taking bin laden out. >> in other words, she is going to run on let's go back to the 90's and the other clinton administration vs. the old bush administration. that's what i think she is going to run on. richard, thank you as always. >> thanks for having me. >> mike huckabee fires up conservatives in iowa. he explains why he will never turn his back on traditional values. the factor will be right back.

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values. >> i'm not a hater, i'm not homophobe bic. i honorablettesly don't care what people do personally in their individual lives. people say why don't you get on the right side of history. you have to understand this is not about the right side or wrong side of history this is the right side of the bible. unless god rewrites it, edits it, sends it down with his signature on it, it's not my book to change. folks, that's why i stand where i stand. >> joining us now from new york mike huckabee whose share airs saturday and sunday 8:00 p.m. eastern here on fox news. governor, great to see you as always. iowa, wow, we are getting going early here for the 2016 race. i know you haven't declared what you are going to do yet. you are up in the polls there which i think is very interesting. this is early but it's still interesting. there is a lot of sense that i get from my radio listeners that there really is this concerted effort by the elite, that's a shorthand by the elites to tar christian conservatives or traditionalists as bill

likes to call them as anti-this or anti-that or anti-gay or you are antiwoman and it's really tiresome. it's really demeaning. a lot of people are looking for leaders to stand up and be not afraid for what you believe. >> the position i have hillary clinton, joe biden held in 2008. barack obama held it until 2012. my question that i would love to pose to the president is. this mr. president, please explain that when you said in 2008 at the saddle back church forum that you stood for traditional marriage and did you so because you were a christian. and because it's what the bible taught. please answer, were you lying then or are you lying now? or did the bible get rewritten? >> and i'm just wanting somebody in the press to answer that honest question. i can't come up with another alternative of what could have happened. one of those three scenarios has to be the reason that he was feeling comfortable

enough to change his mind. if he just said look, i just believe this because it's historic or it's traditional, that's not what he said. he said it was because of his christian convictions. does he have them or does he not? if one has them, they don't change fending on what the culture does. you don't take an opinion poll to come up with a new point of view. >> governor, i was chatting the other day with a couple of big fundraiser types for the g.o.p. and good guys and raising a lot of money. they have the pulse of the people who give a lot of money at the party. not sort of the grass roots type but the money people. he said to me, laura, you know, this stuff, these traditional values issues, social issues, got to get past this. we have got to get past these issues. and we have got to start talking about building prosperity and the economy and jobs and creating jobs and keystone. all these other things are losers for young people. their views are changing and they are losers for women. and, you know, you just got to drop this stuff. this is killing us across

the country. what is your response to that. >> first of all, of course we have got to really focus on jobs and we have got to focus on building the economy and getting hope to young people. that's absolutely job number one. i think politics is like opening a bass constituency robbins store. look, if you don't have but one flavors you are in real troubling. bass constituency robbins success 32 flavors. manage governor manage one thing at a time. this idea that we can't talk with issues that touch people's basic sense of history and character and tradition because if we do that then we are not spending time on the economy, laura, that's utter nonsense. of course we can deal with it ronald reagan did. here is an interesting point. if mitt romney h 10% more of the conservative traditional evangelical and catholic voters he would be president today. they stayed home because they have got to make sure that they believe you are going it stabbed for those. not that you will change anything.

stand. >> people stay home if jeb bush is the nominee. >> i like jeb. jeb is good friend. i'm not going to say anything unkind about him. jeb has taken strong stands on the moral issues. he has never wavered on the life question. he has always been solid on that and marriage as well. >> all right, governor, thank you so much. great to he so you. see you in new hampshire tomorrow. >> all right. still to come why is the media covering for barack obama. we're going to tell you when we come back. text expedia to 75309 expedia, find yours the choice is yours. chalky. not chalky. temporary. 24 hour. lots of tablets. one pill. you decide. prevacid. ♪ 24 hour introducing the more everything plan.

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pulled himself back from the brink. bill recently talked with him. >> so i was where you were at abc news, but unlike you, i never took narcotics. number one, i don't know how i would have functioned stoned and, number two, i just -- it just didn't occur to me to do that because, like you, i was very ambitious. so why did you start with the drugs? >> i think it all dates back to being young, 28 years old when i got to abc news, 14 years ago, i knew i was green, insecure and my compensation was i'm going to be a workaholic. i think a lot of your viewers will relate to the desire to be excellent. after 9/11 i volunteered to go overseas and spent many years on the front lines. when i came back i crashed and burned. >> when you came back from pakistan and afghanistan and things like that that's when you started using. >> yes. >> you started using for fun? >> i had a -- well, what i now know was an undiagnosed depression. i was having trouble getting out of bed. i had flu like symptoms. >> this got you up.

>> yes he. >> cocaine and ecstasy. >> in hindsight it was a way to replace some of the adrenaline of the war zone. >> in the israelis do invade it will be a difficult site. >> they call it self-medicating you don't feel good and you take the substance and you feel better. did that that take over your life? did it effect your work at abc news? >> it did not take over my life but it did ultimately affect my work, here is why. i didn't know it, even though i was trying to be very careful about separating it from my actual work, it was raising the level of adrenaline in my brain, that pretty much primed me to have a panic attack on national television, which i did. >> so the physical nature of cocaine affected your brain so much that you had a panic attack on the air? >> um-huh. >> researchers report people who take cholesterol lowering jobs of statins for five years may also lower their risk for cancer. but it's too early to prescribe statins slowly for cancer production. >> after the panic attack, did abc news send you to rehab? did you have to go to rehab? >> no, actually,

interestingly, people at abc news were very concerned, but i, in fear, lied to them. i had no idea. >> you told them it was what. >> i told them i don't know what happened. it was a hiccup and did i another newscast an hour later and it was totally fine. >> they didn't press the issue? >> no. they just thought this was -- >> -- i did finally go to a doctor after i had a second one, which was much more minor and harder to see on the air but i knew. and when i went to the doctor he asked me a bunch of questions including do you do drugs? i said yes. he said mystery solved. on that day i quit. >> and the reason why i tell the story is it's a great example of mindless behavior which exactly what led me on this sort of quest that i went on. >> all right. but how did you get off it? >> my doctor was a shrink. >> the psychiatrist helped you along how many times a week did you go? >> i went to him for a while for once a week. >> once a week? >> yeah. then you got into some kind of meditation thing because that's in your book. >> what happened next was i knew i needed to get my life in check because clearly i had done something phenomenally stupid.

coincidently peter jennings my boss had faith in america. book. that ultimately led me to meditation which i always thought was uniquely ridiculous. turns out it's very simple. it's brain exercise and there is a lot of science that says it's good for your blood pressure. what did it do for you? >> made me 10% happier which is a bit of a tongue in cheek title. mostly what it did for me is create a different relationship to the voice we have in our head. the voice that has you reach in the fridge when you are not hungry. has you. >> compulsions. >> compulsion but even just the daily chatter. the mind is constantly commenting wanting, not wanting, judging, and now i can look at that voice with a reaganesque to mondale there you go again. >> how hard is it to do that? what kind of a discipline is it to do that? a lot of people can't do it. they can't calm themselves down. >> five minutes a day. it's hard to calm the mind but so is anything that's working. >> do you sit there and say

a mantra all over again, peter jennings, peter jennings, peter jennings? >> that would be a not bad mantra. sit down, spine straight, notice your breath coming in and out. every time your mind wanders, which it will a million times. catch yourself, come back to the breath. every time do you that it's like doing a by accept cellular for your brain. curl for your brain. >> a lot of good tips there for me. wield like to remind you by the way that bill's book for kids, the last days of jesus makes a great gift for easter and it explains exactly what happened to jesus in the last week of his life. also, killing jesus still in the top 10 after seven months in the marketplace. wow. great time to read that as well. and we would also like it you know if you buy one factor t-shirt on bill o'reilly.com. you get another free of charge. great deal. and that will end shortly by the way. remember, all the money bill gets from the web site, all of it goes to charity. next, the media continues to cover for president obama and we're going to tell you why. upcoming. music♪

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in the back of the book segment tonight, how the media protects president obama. case in point, former cbs news investigative correspondent cheryl atkinson was the most aggressive reporter on benghazi until they shut her down. here is what she told bill last night. >> did they tell you, look, we don't want you to spend any more time on this? was it that direct? >> no, it's more as though there is no time in the broadcast. they really like the story, but you start to hear from, you know, other routes why don't you leave it alone, and you know, you're kind of a trouble maker because you're still pursuing it. >> atkinson resigned from cbs news last month and the main stream media are covering cover

to the president on things like benghazi to the irs. joining us more from washington, howard kirk. you can catch his shows sunday at 11:00 a.m. eastern. enjoyed being on with you a couple weeks ago. what is going on with cheryl? i was there at the same time she was on. >> does the world know you were with cbs? >> i was for a couple years, strange. i got what she was saying. similar things happened to me when i was there. it's over riding, we don't like you and your stories, no, we're focussing on other things this week or we don't have much time in the newscast and that's a lot of what she says. >> it's rare to have a resignation in protest and it's hard to walk away from a lucrative network job. i had an extended interview with cheryl atkinson and she goes further in detailing how the obama administration pressured her and her bosses on some of

those stories. she wasn't just covering ben z bengha benghazi. >> fast and furious really got them upset. >> how the climate in cbs news changed after president obama took office. i don't remember, laura, cbs having a whole of restraint when they went after the national guard story they had to retract. >> people say tabloidization, when they say we don't have room in the broadcast but have time for, i'm just giving an example, what's trending on twitter today. there is a lot of fluff in newscast and you know, days of journalism where it's news and international affairs, economic pieces, not as much and it's a real disservice to the people and people should believe this, i think, regardless who is in the white house. we want an aggressive media

regardless of the poll lit. >> caller: -- political party involved. >> people at those outlets seem to go soften on president obama -- >> holder said look at the way we're treated, i'm treated, the way the president is treated. he's implying there is race involved and race is. charlie -- >> these are tough jobs. you got to be able to take the heat. there is less investigative reporting in television. it's expensive, time consuming, you tick people off and there is a trend toward the softer segments, easier. >> new pictures for prince william and kate for baby george. what is trending. the "today show" they do a review of youtube every day. it was a lot more news and a lot of anchors would prefer if it were more news, frankly, i bet a lot of them would. >> there was this battle between anchors, matt lauer and

producers know rates and prince william and kate raise. i don't want to paint too brood of a brush. cbs's major garrett worked here at fox and john carlson and i think you'll probably disagree with this in the last year, much of the media reporting on this president unlike the first term has been mostly negative since the zigzag -- >> since the last election, howie, that's convenient. let's get tough on president obama. it's a little late. we have fudges going up with obamacare before the last election. they didn't report on that. >> it affects the reality in a second term and the obamacare botching and so he hasn't gotten very good headlines and numbers are down. >> that's for sure. howard, thanks so much. before we go, check out

lauraingram.com and follow me on twitter. that's it for us tonight. the "kelly file" is next. i'm laura ingram in for bill o'reilly. have a good night. i'm megyn kelly live in new york and tonight, growing numbers on both sides moving toward the battle on the western front as ranchers dig in for a big fight with uncle sam. >> this is a terrible las vegas, crying bundy. they are sitting on precedence. >> we're live on the scene in moments. plus, think you're getting a tax refund? think again. the irs is now targeting average americans for debts they may not owe and wait until you see what happened when washington was asked who made this call? and then, the angry left tries