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latest. david? >> reporter: hi, gregg. yes, it's five weeks now since the malaysian airlines jet went missing with 239 people on board. and it's now become a race against time to find its black boxes before their batteries expire. ships and planes have today been searching two smaller areas of about 18,000 square miles in the indian ocean west of perth, australia. the search area has narrowed considerably over the past week after signals from the black boxes were detected. but no signals were found today. the last confirmed signals were detected back on tuesday. australian prime minister, tony abbott, warned it wouldn't be easy to recover the black boxes. >> while we do have a high degree of confidence that the transmissions that we've been picking up are from flight mh-370's black box recorder, no one should underestimate the

difficulties of the tasks still ahead of us. >> reporter: and he also warned the black boxes transmissions were now fading. the australian authorities say they will continue to use the pinger locater to try to get a good fix until they are sure the batteries on the black boxes have run out, which is likely to be very soon. then they will send down a submersible drone to search the wreckage on the sea floor. but there's more problems there, as well, because of i believe heavy silt so they won't be able to see these black boxes very well. back to you, gregg. >> david piper, streaming live in bangkok. david, thanks. fox news alert on the crisis in ukraine. late word that ukrainian military units are on the move, coming from both defense and en tierer ministries. now, this is in response to earlier attacks. pro russia militants armed with rifles seized police and security headquarters in eastern

ukraine. and then raised the russian flag. the move sparking an emergency meeting of the national security council. more details as they come in. president obama and his weekly address accusing the gop of trying to stifle legislation that would create more opportunities for women. >> on issues that would benefit millions of women, republicans in congress have blocked progress at every turn. just this week, senate republicans blocked the paycheck fairness act. common sense legislation that would help more women win equal pay for equal work. house republicans won't vote to raise the minimum wage or extend unemployment insurance or women out of work through no fault of their own. >> republicans argue, it's the president's failed economic policy that has hurt women. take a listen. >> washington overreaches so much that employers have little choice but to lower wages, rather than to increase them.

to reduce the hiring, rather than expand. this has to change. so instead of politicizing women, let's celebrate the extraordinarily positive role they play in our economy, and focus on how we can further expand that role. >> well, the paycheck fairness act would allow civil pay discrimination lawsuits to be filed against employers, republicans argue the bill would, quote, encourage frivolous lawsuits and deprive women of workplace flexibility. gregg, president obama blaming some republican lawmakers for actively trying to make it harder for americans to vote, saying that voter i.d. laws were undemocratic. his remarks coming at a keynote speech at reverend al sharpton's national action network. molly henneberg is live with more. hi, molly. >> reporter: today republicans are pushing back against the president's attack. they argue that states should be

taking steps to prevent voter fraud and that showing an i.d. when you vote helps election officials verify that you are who you say you are. >> we've just enacted a voter i.d. law here in texas, very similar to what's done in other states. and it's very easy and inexpensive. in fact, in some cases free to be able to get a photo i.d. to vote in texas. plus if there is a problem with your i.d., you can cast a provisional ballot. nobody is being denied the right to vote. we're just trying to make sure that the people who vote only vote once, and are eligible to vote. >> reporter: president obama contends these voter i.d. laws hurt, for example, senior citizens, who may not have the right i.d. or they may hurt women who may have registered to vote under their maiden name but now have their married name on their driver's license. and the president is making the case against voter i.d. laws in a very important midterm election year. >> to start, the simple truth is

this. the right to vote is threatened today. in a way that it has not been since the voting rights act became law nearly five decades ago. across the country, republicans had led efforts to pass laws making it harder, not easier, for people to vote. >> reporter: according to the national conference of state legislatures, 16 states require a photo i.d. to vote. 16 other states require some proof of identity to vote, but it doesn't have to be a photo i.d. >> thank you very much, molly. greg? kansas city police linking 12 highway shootings to it a possible serial shooter. police are also investigating eight additional cases that may be related. the shooter or shooters believed to be driving while firing the shot. three victims wounded in the shootings, which began in early march are expected to be okay. well, a half dozen budget

proposals swirling through congress, and not one of them are likely to go anywhere. our political panel joining us with a growing number of bipartisan lawmakers who are fed up and ready to find some common ground. >> houston, we have a problem. the computer glitches that could scuttle next week's supply ship launch coming up. hi, i'm william due vein g90 [ male announcer ] hands were made for playing.

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international space station may require a space walk to fix the glitch. turning out to be a delay in next week's space station launch. and a major flooding concern in minot, north dakota. officials handing out sandbags to residents because of rising river waters, reaching at least its highest level on record. to politics now. this week the house passing competing budget plans, highlighting the deep partisan divisions over fiscal policy. arizona congresswoman kristen cinema describing them as, quote, partisan silos with no collaboration between republicans and democrats. here for a fair and balanced debate, ellen ratner, bureau chief of talk radio news services, and brad blakeman, form deputy assistant to president george w. bush.

good to see both of you. >> thank you so much. >> good to see you. >> very good. i start with you, ellen. i ask you wherein lies the biggest division. >> well, you know, i think it obviously has to do with how much money is put in the military, how much money is to go for the safety net, and what the different philosophies are. obviously, the democrats would love to put more money in the social safety net and lessen the military. and vice versa for the republicans. and therein lies the rub. >> and brad, do you see it that way? and while you're answering that, tell me if you think there is anything usable in the democrats' budget plan. >> well, first of all, the democrats in the house are certainly out of touch with even the white house. they resoundingly rejected the president's own budget. and if we remember, the president by law is supposed to submit a budget on time, first week in february of every year. he never does. he didn't this year. and when democrats control both the house and the senate, in the first two years of the obama administration, the president

was unable to pass a budget when he controlled government. so i really think the problem here is with democrats. not with republicans. republicans want to curtail spending, and even democrats now want to curtail spending. a certain group in the house. but the problem is, not enough of them can get with the president incur tailing spending, because the president wants to continue to spend money we don't have. >> brad, where do you think that spending should be curtailed, then? >> i think -- look at ryan's budget. across the board, in social programs. we need to rein in entitlements. right now we take in $2 for every $3 we spend. entitlements, unless they are dealt with, in a bipartisan manner with some tough love to be spread around, we are not going to be able to sustain the programs like medicare and medicaid and social security. and especially with obamacare as it presently exists. >> so cutting some of the entitlement programs. what about defense spending,

brad? let me stay with you. i'll get you in there, ellen, in a second. >> well, certainly defense spending, like every department, i believe, has got to be curtailed. the question is to the degree and what programs. but every part of government, as far as i'm concerned, should have the test of need versus want. if you want something and we don't need it, it should be cut. and every part of the budget with the president promised in taking that famous promise, put up the rubber stamp instead, that's what republicans need to do. scalpel to every part of the budget in every department. >> ellen, is this a good idea and is there anything worth seriously considering in the gop proposal? >> well, i mean, it depends if they really have some investments. of course, that's worth considering. the devil is in the details. i went to an event by former senator -- sorry, secretary larry summers, and he talked about the fact that we've got to put more into job development. and also, there are groups such as no labels, which -- listen, i'm on the left side of things.

but no labels wants to get people on both sides of the fence to compromise. when i was 13 years old, my dr. said everything in life is a compromise and it is. >> let they jump in, ellen. if if you say that you should do -- they should do more to come up with creating jobs, how do you do that? people hear that, they want it to happen, but nobody really gives real specifics. >> let's put in some money into developing infrastructure. which is very, very important in this country. or even better, broadband in some areas of the country. infrastructure, bridges, roads, that creates jobs. and that spins off more jobs. >> brad, is that -- "i" word, infrastructure, a word that the republicans run away from? >> we don't run away from it. but the two most important words are responsibility and accountability to the american people. if we do that, we create certainty in the marketplace. right now, without a budget, there's no certainty in the marketplace. right now with obamacare as it presently exists, nobody is

hiring, because they don't know what the future will bring. so what we need to do for the american people is create responsibility and certainty and accountability, and if we do that, the marketplace will flourish and also deregulation. >> okay. but that's the big if, brad. it seems like this -- nothing is getting done. you talk about the people. you've got people out there with wanting to get jobs. people who have jobs. they're not making the money they once made, and they're, quite frankly, tired of the gridlock in each side thing. you should do this, and you should do that. but nobody really coming up with great solutions. ellen, what do you have to say? >> again, it really means a compromise, it means moving away from brad's position and moving away, actually, from my personal position, which was -- to do much more government programs. and coming into the middle so that we can move ahead. because america has got to compete internationally, and we've got to move ahead. we have to have a budget that investors can count on. >> yeah. ellen, i started with you and brad i'll end with you. your final thoughts. >> final thoughts is november

can't come soon enough. give republicans back the senate, increase our majority in the house and force the president to do that which he promised to do, and never did. and that is be responsible to the people and get out that scalpel and make our budget responsible. >> brad blakeman. >> ellen ratner, thank you very much on this saturday afternoon. >> thank you. the race for the white house is certainly heating up. a live report from the freedom summit in new hampshire, where conservative contenders are gathering today. and with the same battles happening over and over and over in washington, politics can feel a lot like groundhog day. we're going to discuss how to break the endless loop. and a baby with a criminal record? >> what? >> really? >> what? >> aww.

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a pakistani judge has freed a 9-month-old accused of murder -- attempted murder. the decision is coming after police withdrew the boy's -- the charges against the boy. so the infant was charged after the baby's family fought with police trying to collect overdue bills. an attorney said police made a mistake naming the baby. >> i hate it when that happens. the majority of americans are tired of political showdowns and shutdowns, et cetera, et cetera. and in his book what works, common sense solutions for a stronger america, our next guest

explains just how to move forward in the right direction. joining us now is fox news contributor cal thomas. cal, before we get your solutions, the founding fathers would be absolutely upset at the spending, right? >> well they would indeed. and a lot of other things, greg. they created a document that restrained government. they understood, as well as the preachers of their day, the lower natures of men and women, and they knew they needed to be constrained and especially government. they were about liberty for all of us and government living within its boundaries. when things exceed their boundaries like a river that over flows its banks we get damage to property and often lives. the government was set by the founders and that is why we have a $17 trillion debt and government programs that never seem to end. ronald reagan's favorite life is the only proof of eternal life in washington is a government

program. >> cal, what is the solution. >> it is something akin to the reagan grace position. >> peter grace. >> he did an audit and he and his associated did an audit of the government from top to bottom, like real businesses and real life people have to do and presented to congress on a voluminous document on waste, fraud and abuse without damage to the safety net or the security of the united states and money being power in congress, they ignored it. we need another grace commission which went around the country and found military establishments that were no longer needed and shut them down. congress would blame the commission when people in their districts complained about the loss of jobs because they didn't have to take responsibility for it. look, we have all kinds of programs that are dupe lickaive. most people don't know there are 40 literacy programs, many

overlapping. there are three head start programs that are mediocre at best r. we spending this money on mediocrity. is that where we want this country to go? i hope not. >> every industry should have to prove its worth. >> every government agency and government program has authorizing legislation or a charter. what i'm proposing is that we take a look at that legislation and charter to see if those programs and agencies are living up to their objectives. the ones set for them when they were created. if not, we get rid of them, if they are, we modify them if necessary. we didn't just crawl out of a cave and we didn't have to invent the wheel or discover the use of fire. the old testament become of ecclesiastes said everything you thought of has been done before

and everything you think has been thought before. we can move forward accordingly. >> cal, i often wonder how did we lose our way. what think? >> well i think we moved from an age of self-reliance, personal responsibility and accountability, reinforced by the preachers of old, to an age of entitlement, envy, greed and without accountability and entitlement. we've moved from usa to atm where people think they deserve other people's money. if you make more money than i do, it makes no difference whatsoever. i should just want to know where you went to school because i might want to be like you. and for me, if you make $2 more an hour, 50 cents goes to the governme

government. >> thank you so much, cal. the batteries and the black box of missing malaysia airlines fly 370 are slowly dying. will searchers locate the jet in time. >> and os pistorius contradicting his own testimony but he's tired and he's weary, he said as his lawyer shook his head. have prosecutors caught the blade runner in it a lie. our legal panel weighs in next. and it is david versus gal eye edge debate over cattle in the desert. stick around right here on fox news channel. i love to eat. i love hanging out with my friends.

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hello, i'm arthel neville. >> and i'm gregg jarrett. topping this hour, officials narrowing the search area for flight 370. are crews any closer to locating the wreckage? we'll have a report. >> and police in kansas releasing a string of highway shootings and why they are concerned they may have a serial shooter on their hands. >> growing turmoil in eastern ukraine. a dangerous showdown taking another ominous turn. we'll have a report.

>> first some of america's leading conservatives descending on new hampshire, fames like rand paul, ted cruz and governor mike huckabee making rounds at public and private events laying the groundwork for 2016. carl cameron is live in manchester, carl? >> reporter: hi, arthel. this is the first time there has been a cattle call, a gathering of presidential candidates before the mid terms coming two years before the actual presidential election. it is being put on for americans for prosperity and a tea party that changed around america's campaign finance rules and gave us things like super-packs. there are is a huge crowd hearing hopefuls talking about their vision for the country two years from now. rand paul, the kentucky senator

has been campaigning here in new hampshire for the last 24 hours, espousing a libertarian approach, and to grow the party and appeal to more people. well that has been confronted and disagreed with by ted cruz, the texas senator and tea party favorite said that the republican party and conservatives should embrace social issues and fight for conservative principals and not back down to win votes. they battled about it today at dual news conferences and from the podium. here is a sampling of it. >> i think we should continue to defend the traditional three legs of the republican schools. i am a fiscal conservative, i'm a social conservative, i'm a national security conservative. i think we need to stand for all three principles. >> i think there is an arrow gabs to having absolute litmus tests for people and if people want to say i'm no longer good

enough for that and discount what i believe in, i think there ought to be a big party, that is a debate we can have, i think. >> well polls in new hampshire shows that rand paul is one of the leading front-runners and where it tends to prevail, where it is evangelical christians and paul is in a spat with paul ryan and the vice presidential nominee, ryan's budget went to the house floor and passed this week. rand paul has now said very clearly, he won't vote for it if it makes it to the senate. it isn't balanced. and it is a good example of the positioning going on from the candidates. we heard from paul and cruz and in 20 minutes we'll hear from former arkansas governor mike huckabee and he won the iowa caucuses in 2008. didn't perform here in new hampshire but he is popular in

republican circumstances and leads the polls in iowa and other states. he hasn't said if he will run but he has told eyo wants, we talked to republicans that met with him last week in the iowa state, he might throw his hat into the ring. and very early what the vote 2 years and 7 months away but yet a pack of republicans think they can find their way back to the white house in 2016. >> and you will be a busy man, carl cameron. >> reporter: already busy. >> yes. president obama in his weekly address accusing the gop of trying to stop legislation that will create more opportunities for women. >> on issues that would benefit millions of women, republicans in congress have blocked progress at every turn. just this week senate republicans blocked the paycheck fairness act. common sense legislation that would help more women earn equal

pay for equal work. the house republicans won't vote to raise human wage or extend unemployment for women through no fault of their own. >> they say it is the president's economy hurting washington. >> washington over reaches so much that they have little choice to lower wages than raise them, to reduce the hiring rather than expand. this has to change. so instead of politicizing women, let's celebrate the positive role me play in our economy and focus on how we can further expand that role. >> the paycheck fairness act as it is known would allow civil pay discrimination lawsuits to be filed against employers. conservatives opposing that bill are arguing it would encourage, quote, frivolous lawsuits and deprive women of workplace flexibility. well the director of the

forward air marshall service, fourth to ten down for his role in alleged scheme to acquire agency guns for his own personal use. according to information obtained exclusively by foxnews.com, robert bray received the weapons from another agency official who allegedly used his forward firearms license to obtain the guns at a discou rate. the tsa said it is investigating everyone allegedly involved in this operation. meantime, bray said he, quote, had no knowledge he was doing anything wrong. well the u.s. is den yig a -- denying a visa request for the pick for the next u.n. ambassador citing his involvement in the 1979 takeover of the u.s. embassy in tehran. elizabeth has more from washington. >> reporter: the ambassador to the united nations has been rejected. u.s. officials said they will not issue a visa to the man.

president jay carney pointing his ties to the muslim student who held american hostages for 49 days at the take over of the embassy in taye ron and coordinated a assassination in rome but was never charged. >> we made clear our position on this. and that includes our position that the selection was not viable and our position that we will not be issuing him a visa. >> the white house now needs to decide if this le sign the bill in congress unanimously, which prohibits the ambassador from entering the u.s. senate ted cruz, a bill sponsor, encourages president obama to send a message of intolerance. >> this was intended to be a slap in the face, a slap in the face to america, to the 52

hostages who spent 444 days being tortured. >> iranian officials writing in part, it is a regrettable solution to the u.n. the host country and the inherit right of sovereign states to designate their representative to the united nations. taye ron making it clear that country refuses to back down on the nomination. greg, back to you. >> elizabeth, thanks. and we go to the ukraine where the crisis there continues to escalate. late word that ukrainian military units are on the move, coming from both the defense and interior ministries. this is after pro-russian militants seizing more buildings in eastern ukraine. at least 20 men taking the police headquarters. they took hundreds of pistols from the building and raised the russian flag. russia is still denying any plan

to send in forces or split ukraine. new developments in the search for flight 370. australian prime minister tony abbott is saying the search area has been narrowed down to 500 square miles. an area the size of los angeles. abbott also stressing that it is the most difficult search area in human history and they may not find anything at all for a long time. dominique live in l.a. with the latest. dominique. >> reporter: hey, there, greg. what is not helping is we have not heard any pings since tuesday but abbott saying he remains confident that the signals that have been picked up so far are from the malaysia airlines flight 370. their focus is to reduce down the search area even more to pinpoint the black boxes. >> even that the signal from the

black boxes are rapidly fighting, what we are now doing is trying to get as many detections as we can so that we can locate -- so that we can narrow the search area down to as small an area as possible. >> reporter: so if we take a look at the map, we can see precisely where they were searching today. that is about a thousand miles off the northwest coast of australia there. as i said, no further pings detected so far but they are looking at 15,000 feet below the surface and that is no small feat. they do have -- well they have the pinger detector on the surface. what they do have also a submersible drone they want to dispatch. they can only do that once they have shrunk the area down because this drone, the bluefin-21 it works as a much slower pace than the ping detector on the surface. and this is -- the australians

are saying it could be between six weeks to two months before they actually find the black boxes, if they are actually there. back to you. >> dominique, thanks. meanwhile, the search to find out who is behind a string of roadway shootings in kansas is intensify. police have detected 12 roadway shootings since march and someone fired shots just before hitting an exit ramp or road split and took off. brian is live with more. brian, what can you tell us. >> reporter: three people have been injured over the months in linked highway shootings but now there are no known suspects or motives. most of the shootings are in the southern part of kansas, missouri at three trails crossing. it is where three u.s. highways intersect. police believe the shots are coming from inside of a car and

in all 12 cases someone fired shots before reaching a highway exit ramp or road split and the suspect veering off in a different direction from the vehicle. one victim saw a gunman drive next to their car and open fire wearing a ski mask and hood. >> it is really scary to think someone is out there with no regard for what could happen and anybody could be hurt. people have families that drive on this highway. >> just hope it gets solved soon so it doesn't happen to any more people and nobody gets hurt. because the way it is going, somebody could be hurt or killed easily. >> no one has been killed. most of the shootings occur at night from 5:30 p.m. police say the shooter could be hiding along stretches of interstate 435 and 470. the news has some likening the situation to the 2002 sniper shootings in washington, d.c. that killed 10. but kansas city police have said they do not believe a sniper is targeting the area and the mayor

is down-playing the shooting spree. >> this is urban usa reality these days. and having crime of any sort is bad for anybody, especially those that are victimized by it, but i do not believe that you can say that what is going on in kansas is of such a weird nature. >> there is increased police presence along this particular highway area and police are reviewing cases dating back to last year. >> brian, thank you very much for that update. so could that tragic bus accident in california that killed ten people have been prevented? we're going to tell you what investigators are looking into now. and what is the president's new health and human services appointment could mean for the future of obamacare. >> plus thousands showing up to prove their boston strong after

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time now for a quick check of the headlines. federal investigators reviewing a tragic bus accident in california that killed 10 people. the bus carrying 44 teenagers on a field trip to visit a college

when it was suddenly struck by a truck that crossed the center divider. officials are looking into whether there should have been a barrier across the median. and in boston, where sports illustrated is marking one year since the boston marathon bombing. a cover-shoot of the finishing line, organizers estimating 3000 people came out for the boston strong shoot. a new chapter for obamacare as kathleen sebelius departs as the health and human sector. the white house appointing silvia burwell. this will put the health care law front and center for a new round of national debate and scrutiny. jamie winestein daily editor for the daily caller. >> thank you for having me. >> what do we know about mrs.

burwell and the fact that she was budget director is any significance? >> i think this is more about the policy in the department she's heading than the personality. from all accounts, she has a lot of republican support. not ideologically, but they have been able to work with her. and so she is not a controversial pick. there is nothing there to scare republicans off from voting for her but she is in charge of a department that will implement obamacare and that will bring a lot of questions to bring obamacare front and center, which, with political elections coming in november, could be very toxic for the democrats. >> so then what does this mean for the affordable care act and could we see any new policy changes? >> well i don't think that she's going to take over and suddenly do many changes. but as philip klein suggested in the washington examiner, this is an opportunity for the republicans in the senate to question her about what powers

does she believe she has in changing the law herself. obviously the republicans have been very mixed about the way that kathleen sell evenus has been able to single-handedly change aspects of the law. some think she has gonon her powers a -- think she has gone beyond her powers. so this is a question of mrs. burwell what she thinks her powers are in terms of changing obamacare. in terms of concrete policy changes that the republicans and white house and mrs. burwell will come together and do, i don't think you will see any changes that are collaborate in the future because the republicans right now see a very strong political advantage in repealing obamacare as a message going into the november elections. >> how do you think that will fair come november with voters? >> well, right now we've seen a test case and that was in the florida 13th district. there was a special election there and the republican

candidate who had a lot of laws ran on appealing obamacare and the democrat candidate who was considered stronger in terms of visual and baggage, ran on fixing obamacare. she was trying to make the middle ground and the republican candidate won. so there is great fear among democrats that the obamacare will be kind of a burden on them going into the election. and even according to nate silver, the statta tigs, the republicans have about a 50% chance of taking back the senate. >> and even with 7.4 million enrolled at this point, that is still problematic for the democrats, right? >> we'll see more with that number. that 7.5 million was sign-ups for obamacare, we still don't know who enrolled by paying premiums in obamacare. and of that 7.5 million, that is probably brought down less by the people who paid and then we have to find out how many were previously unsured. a new rand study, and it is not perfect, suggests that number is

a very small percentage of those who actually enrolled in obamacare that were previously uninsured so many of those people had insurance before and lost their insurance because of obamacare. >> and then they will break down the demo graphs as well as the age groups here. and let's get back to mrs. sebelius. you said there were people talking about how much power she had or did not have. some were calling for her resignation early on and that she should be fired. do you think this is vindication or do you the critics will go after someone or something else? >> well i think this was kind of a strategic opportunity for her to step down. she saw it as a high point. they were able to make the celebratory announcement that 7.5 million sign-ups have occurred. we'll still get the real numbers on that down the road. it was a high point for the administration. i think they were planning to move her out after her failure

of the launch of obamacare. >> so you believe it was political pressure not personal priority. >> i think it is a mix of both. i think she is tired of trying to get the house in order. and think the white house is ready to have someone else step in. for all of her maybe ideological faults, mrs. burwell is seen as someone who is a good administrator and she's able to run a ship well, while kathleen sebelius didn't do a good job with that when obamacare launched. >> mrs. burwell went through it a year ago as she took over as budget director and we'll be watching that and speak to you later on. jamie winestein, thank you very much. >> thank you. new reports that of the affordable care act is going to cost small business more money. the fda is approving a new measure effecting vending machines all over the country, requiring them to show the calorie count on all of their food items.

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safety concerns prompting federal agents to call off efforts to seize one nevada cattle ranchers' herd after a tense standoff because they say he owes up to $1 million in unpaid grazing fees but the rancher claims rights to use the land his family settled in the 19th century. we are live in bunkerville, nevada, with the latest. >> reporter: well right now it is a very fluid situation and getting worse compared to what it was a few hours ago. police and s.w.a.t. teams are in an armed standoff with protesters just up the road. we have a live view that we'll take some video right now. basically it is of protesters blocking the southbound lane of interstate 15. that is a major north-south interstate between nevada and utah. they were up there and trying to retrieve cattle that belonged to

rancher clive bundy that had been impounded by the bureau of land management. bundy had said about an hour or two ago, listen, if i don't hear from blm in one hour, we're going to get them. 200 protesters left this area and headed up there and went to the pen impound area and blocked i-15 in the process. >> that brought out federal, state, local police, s.w.a.t. teams and that is where it is right now. earlier today, however, about two hours ago, protesters were celebrating in victory after the blm decided to back down and pull out. they said for safety of their employees and the public. this, after hundreds had showed up here from around the west to support bundy in his battle with the blm. the agency says that bundy had defied two court orders to remove his cattle from federal land and he refused to do that

and yet they backed down out of fear because so many of these out of staters were carrying rifles, ar 15th, side arms. earlier the federal agents had tasered one of his sons and tackled one of his daughters and out of fear of escalation or provocation, they decided to back down. here is some sound bite that we have from earlier today when the crowd heard that the blm had backed down. >> i believe a press release has already been put forth. the blm is going to cease this operation. [ yelling ] >> reporter: now, to some bundy is a free-loader and outlaw for his failure to pay his grazing fees over 20 years, to others he is a folk hero. the last rancher in clark county

and now he has caused the feds to back down. i'll wrap it up and we'll bring it later to you how it resolves itself, with the 400 cattle or so that has been impounded. >> it is incredible, stay safe out there because it is a intense situation. william, we'll look forward to your update later. turning now to oscar pistorius. ending a very rough weekend on the witness stand. blistering cross-examination from the chief prosecutor. the olympic runner contradicting himself yesterday when he spoke about the night he fatally shot girlfriend reeva steenkamp. the prosecutor pouncing on his stumble saying pistorius was trying to cover up lies. the so-called blade runner said he was confused and tired. let's bring in our legal panel, tire raw self and david wool the

defense attorney. what is interesting about this, unlike america, the defense attorney is not even allowed to speak with his client during cross-examination. so for the better part of three or four days, the defense attorney has not been able to coach his client. instead we saw him literally put his hand down, shaking his head, covering his eyes, as if, like, what are you doing to me? it has not been good for oscar pistorius. >> well, greg, i don't know about that, though. this prosecutor, and we've all been there when we do trials. he has been so argumentative and badgered pistorius and gone so visually after him that if there were a jury in this case there is no question the jury would be turned against him. and i'm not convinced this judge isn't turned against him. the judge has admonished him about calling him a liar and kbloing after -- and going after

him in a way that wouldner be a -- would never be allowed in america. and oscar is saying it was a tragedy zentd and not a crime and the judge may believe that. >> and this is a judge and not a jury and the judge is well used to the prosecutor's tactics and he has really worn down oscar pi -- pistorius. >> yes. and what is interesting is we are not in america, it is south africa. they focus on the subjective mental opinion of the person at the time that the crime was committed. and while i think intentional homicide and intentional murder here is very difficult to prove because of the fact that it is solely circumstantial case, negligent homicide, i think they are going to get there because there are so many things that oscar could have done differently had he just been a little more clear headed. >> yeah, you know, david, i hear

this from lawyers all over america who have been watching this case, pistorius' story fundamentally makes no sense. >> well, greg, i don't buy that. i think it makes sense because as rachel said, you have to look at it from a standard of reasonableness in light of his severe disability. he got up that night, greg and he was walking on stumps. he heard something in the bathroom. he did not think it was -- rachel -- he did not think it was his girlfriend reeva because literally she would have said something and you heard nothing. and if he said something and calls out for her and then he identifies himself to the attacker he thinks he is in his house. so when he goes up to the bathroom door, he knows, it is me or the attacker. i have no way of running away from this situation. he couldn't put his legs on. >> ahh. >> yeah. >> i could hear your exasperation. >> it is so true. the issue is this -- he's no

victim. and yes, a appreciate what david is saying with regard to the fact he didn't have his legs on. but that's how he lives his life without legs. it isn't like he just lost his legs that morning and couldn't function. there are so many things he could have done differently to prevent this tragedy from happening. he could have turned to her in bed and said i think i heard something and whispered something. it wouldn't damage them or put them in danger. >> she was not in bed, that was the problem. >> but his story is that she was, that he saw her under the due v.a. -- duvay. and what i find is that it wasn't the efficience bullet that killed her. so he fires one bullet because he is in fear. he's a hot head, one bullet. >> she was -- she would have been screaming, david. >> negligent homicide,

absolutely. >> as someone who regularly goes to a shooting range, i can tell you, when you are firing a handgun and i have ear protection, you hear nothing but the handgun discharging. he shot four shots in rapid succession and he didn't hear anything and by the time he stopped it was too late. >> and it didn't occur him that his girlfriend was behind the door, come on, david? >> and under -- >> and i think the judge will believe him. >> no. because under south aftericab -- african law, you can only allowed to use deadly force if someone is attacking you with deadly force and there is no barrier. so i think he is in trouble with the negligent homicide. >> he surely is. rachel and david, good to see you both. >> good to see you guys. thank you. sorry, i don't want to die. those were the first words from steveute ash, waking up and

speaking for the first time after being brutally beaten by a mob in detroit. a fourth man, just 16 years old being charged with assault. his son said his dad is showing a lot of promise. >> he is talking chrks we were so worried about and he said my sister's name without her saying it and so there is memory there. so that is very good. >> so far the community has raised more than $150,000 for his medical expenses. >> what a so-- story. a group of armed men seizing another government building in east ukraine. so could russia use this as an excuse to move its troops into the region like it did in crimea? and how should the united states respond? we'll talk with a former national security adviser to dick cheney. we'll talk about that next. this is interesting.

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new tensions in eastern ukraine as russian militants seize a station tonight. the second time in over a week. u.s. officials blaming moscow for th promising a very tough response. captain bob wells is a retired u.s. navy and former national

security advisor to dick cheney. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> you say it is important for the u.s. to remain in the lead of the situation and how do we get european allies completely on board. >> well thank you. i think that is a very important, essential requirement for american leadership. it will take an all points push to really work with the europeans. this last week is very instructive. if you look at the meetings we've had here with the g-7 and our recent meetings with the g-20, the europeans have been inconsistent and weak ant haven't come -- weak and haven't come to a conclusion with regard to the long-term response to what putin is intending to do with ukraine. >> and ex pound on why they haven't been consistent. >> i think they are just not really seeing this is a wake-up call. just like the united states clearly sees it is a wake-up

call. that our interests are to contain russia and mr. putin from making ukraine as a buffer zone as he sees it. his end game is to create a buffer zone and his end game is really power. that is what he's trying to accrue and he's using all elements of power, political, economic and military to force the situation in ukraine and geopolitically. >> because putin has this to-do list and he's going down the list checking things off to get to the end game you talked about captain wells. >> yes. in particular, i think the united states has been a little smarter with regard to where we are as a leader with the europeans. we know that it is going to be incumbent upon our leadership to persuade the europeans to look at putin as we see him now. obviously the europeans have quite a few economic interests, over the last few years since the end of the cold war, there has been greater integration but the united states needs to be the leader and work across four

pillars, as i see it. make sure we continue our bilateral and our multi lateral efforts with the european union as well as the osec, the helsinki commission that we had a chance to discuss with them, looking at the tool, the international monetary fund to support ukrainian requirements and also think about the economic support that we could provide the europeans in the future. and that means economic security for the europeans and the natural gas area to take some of the risk away. and we need to nurture the diplomacy between the united states and the russian federation right now. mr. kerry has been meeting with former minister lavrov but now the russians are thinking about seeing the ukrainian foreign minister. and we have to make the case that additional sanctions are coming. this is a serious time and we're watching the deeds of the

russians and the united states needs to take a lead in that area. >> and you mentioned the natural gas resources, what might that mean for the keystone pipeline here in our country? >> i think inside of the united states it makes the argument for the keystone pipeline a continuing effort by the united states to become more energy security is very, very important objective. a think politically with our national security as admiral mullen once said, the economic growth and strength of the united states has to support the security requirements of the united states. this is a time for the united states to be strong and we can be economically strong in the next few years and we can bein -- increase our national security capabilities. iraq is really a concluded event in american military history, and afghanistan is coming to a close so we need to see the future clearly and we feed to essentially build strength at home, economically with the keystone and with national security with our defense capacity. >> and what does that mean,

exactly, captain wells? go ahead. >> that means we need to make sure that we have modernization of our armed forces. i know there has been a recent quadrennial defense review and we looked at what requirements we need across all of the armed services but we need to take a fresh look at that. we need to look at what we're going to need to have in terms of the right size for the army, the naval service, the marine corp, looking at what we need for command and control, looking at making sure we are credible because nato is a critical alliance and we have to lead within that alliance and we have to build coalitions based on alliances to support any particular threats, like aggression or terrorist -- counter terrorism operations. >> captain wells i have so leave it there. i'm sorry to rush you. but i have to go. but we will be seeing you for sure on this topic in the engineer feature. thanks, captain wells. >> thank you, arthel.

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for a look beyond the news, here's liz trotta's saturday commentary. >> on monday, columbia university will announce this year's pulitzer prize winners. journalists will be especially attentive, focused on the coveted award for public service. their concern? how the pulitzer jury votes on the work of left wing journalists and their accomplices in the case of edward snowden. mr. snowden is a former contractor for the national security agency. he stole and then passed on to his enablers an immense collection of international

surveillance data by u.s. intelligence agencies. those who protected snowden while publishing the damaging documents include the guardian of britain and "the washington post." the fugitive american continues to say he has much more top secret material soon to come. mr. snowden went on the run last june, pleading his pursuers and ending up in russia where from time to time he addresses by video link various left wing organizations or humans rights groups, as they call themselves. they shower mr. snowden with prizes for personal courage. earlier this month, he received a standing ovation in a meeting in chicago by amnesty international. shortly after snowden fled his homeland, he said, quote, i do not want to live in a world where everything i do and say is

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