small carriage house on the grounds. that's it for today. have a great week. we'll see you next "fox news sunday." breaking news on the "fox report "i'm harris faulkner. in kansas city people at a jewish center and is a nearby retirement home targeted by a gun man. they are confirming that three people were killed outside of those jewish-related facilities. we learn both places were put on lockdown for a period of time and here's what we know now. while the shootings were happening inside -- were happening, rather, inside the jewish community center, children and their parents had gathered inside a theater. they were auditioning for a play. it was packed.

the shootings took place near the entrance of thoot theater. another shooting was at a jewish's retirement home. no word on the victims. >> there were three fatalities, there were two individuals shot at. one was extremely close and we have a total of five that shot at. we have back doors of the community center has substantial damage. we haven't ruled out anything. i don't want to say the terrorism word but this is again three hours into it. >> police are telling fox news one person is in custody and you see some individual of that man now, and they arrested him at a nearby elementary school. the lockdown situation for by the same token those centers is where now? >> the lockdown is over but they are still tweeting it as an active crime scene in both locations at jcc and also at the

village shalom center. right now, the man in custody is at the johnson county detention center in kansas. the suspect is 70 years old. police have not released name and say he's not from around the area. this all began around 1:00 p.m. local time. police were notified of shots fired at the jewish community center in over land park, kansas. one of the vehicle victim's vehicles in the parking lot in the back of the theater. 75 kids and their parents were side the theater. police say the double doors leading into the theater received heavy damage from gunfire. the suspect was seen using a >> it was really scary. when i called my mom and she started crying and i started

crying, and i kind of just couldn't help but think about sandy hook, just looking around it, these very young children, and i was really scared. >> just incredible. just minutes later, the suspect traveled about a mile south to village shalom, a jewish assisted living center, where a family -- a female was shot and killed in the parking lot. two police officers already on search for the active search found the suspect about a mile away. >> after the first incident that we had, the second incident followed closely behind, and we immediately understood we had an active shooter, and went into our active shooter protocols and began to search for him with the best information we had. we saturated the area and i believe two of our officers found him in the school parking lot. >> local news media was the man

was heard saying hail hitler. there is speculation that this could be a hate crime. >> it's too early in the investigation to try to label it. we know it's a vicious act of violence, and obviously at two jewish facilities, one might make that assumption. we have to know more about it before we label it. >> again, too early. a total of five people shot at, three people were killed. two were uninjured, and i said earlier, the suspect is in his 70s. we know little more than that, harris. >> thank you very much. now a first person account. michael metcalf was walking with his son into the jewish community center when he says he saw the gunman. michael you are joining us by phone now. when did you realize something was wrong? >> good evening, harris. as you said, my son and i were walking into the jewish

community center to a different entrance than the one we had originally gone into, and we heard a loud noise, it sounded like a gunshot or a car back firing and looked over toward the noise and i saw a man standing next to a vehicle with a gun, raised to his shoulder, and i also saw someone laying on the ground in front of him that looked like they had been shot or i assumed they had been shot, so basically i yelled at my son to run as fast as we could and made sure that he did, and that we both got out of there as quickly as we could, and we ran down the hill into the building and told them what we had seen, and that's -- we were in the building for quite some time. it was obviously very disturbing. >> i can only imagine. what were other people doing?

>> caller: inside the building you mean? >> did you see people running? what was their reaction? did they realize what was happening? >> caller: well, i think we were probably the first people to tell them what was going on outside, and -- so then they proceeded to call the authorities, and they had everyone go into the locker rooms, so they could lock the doors and keep everyone in there. and we really didn't hear anything while we were inside the locker room. eventually we were allowed to come out. >> were you scared? >> caller: oh, absolutely. obviously it was a horrible thing to see and very frightening and even when we were inside the building, you never really know if you are safe. >> you know, we're seeing video now of the first responder action that was taken as police began showing up and others in the community were reaching out to try to get there. i'm wondering, are there armed guards normally on the premises at the jewish community center

there? >> caller: i cannot say. we don't actually belong there. we were there for something else and i'm not that familiar with the facility. >> how could you describe how crowded or not crowded it was? did you notice? >> caller: the entrance we went into was kind of the area by the locker rooms and the workout facilities. there were a number of people in there. it was also close to the swimming pool. i think -- in the main entrance to the building, they were having -- we saw quite a few of people in there that were there for some type of contest or audition that was going on. >> michael, you and i spoke moments we went live. i'm from that area. it's a very closely knit community. what are people saying tonight? we're a couple of days out from the first night of passover? >> caller. . well, it's horrible.

i haven't talked to that many people, to be honest, because i've been trying to process all of that this afternoon, and we were -- my son and i were very fortunate to get out of there safely and get home, but obviously it's a terrible tragedy. our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. >> right. and of course we've learned tonight after this news conference that there was a 15-year-old boy in critical condition tonight and i know you were there with your son. thank the good lord that you guys are okay tonight and of course our thoughts and prayers as you said are with the victims and families. michael metcalf giving us a first person account of what happened at the jewish community center in overland park, kansas. >> our hearts go out to the families who suffered loss on this tragic day. our heart felt gratitude as well to all of those in kansas city

and around the world who have expressed sympathy, concern and support. much more on this story throughout on the "fox report." right now, we are awaiting an emergency meeting of the security counsel at the united nations and we have learn it's at russia's request. we don't know exactly the details but we're told it will deal with the crisis between russia and its neighbor ukraine. thousands of russian troops have been massing at ukraine's border today. we'll go live to russia in moments. and it is not over yet for the cattle rancher in nevada who stood up to the federal government over a land dispute. it came to a head on an interstate as the feds moved in yesterday to round up his heard -- herd. and new information tonight.

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major developments on the ukraine. we're told an emergency meeting with the united nations can happen within the hour. he's telling russia to lay down their weapons by tomorrow morning or face a full scale operation by ukraine's military. that move is raising the risk of an all--out military couldn't frons tags between ukraine and russia. russia is calling the threat or warning from ukraine a criminal order. in eastern ukraine, the situation grows more dire. proceed russian gun men. both ukraine and the u.s. say russia is directly responsible for the uprising. fox news radio reporter in

moscow will tell us how people are reacting in russia right now. >> we have thousands people gathering in russia. they say there is ton of propaganda going out. a lot of pop pa began da going out on the air waves and people here are very upset about it. they say that ukraine is full of false information. russian-speaking people in crimea and eastern ukraine have to be afraid because the government there is going to percent cute them, make their children's lives difficult and their own lives difficult. a lot of people gathered in moscow today in support of ukrainian people. it's really something important to note that a lot of these people that i spoke with today that were at the rally had originally rallied in favor of

crimeans being annexed by moscow. and they wanted to change their minds and show their support for ukraine. as you mentioned earlier, the situation in eastern ukraine is very dire. pro russian separatists want to do the something thing that crimea did and basically be an nexted by moscow. they feel that their lives are in danger, and their children are in danger. there is a lot of prop abegan da coming out of moscow. people are saying they don't have any faith or trust by the government in kiev. the region of donetsk, those people want to hold a referendum may 12th in order to join moscow and unfortunately we saw the death of a ukrainian service man today. ukraine's president basically coming out today and saying the strongest words so far by ukraine that a full scale anti

terrorist operation will be held and the people who are trying to separate will be treated like terrorists. in the meantime ukraine has also said that they will give sort of an amnesty for those protesters who actually wish to step aside and lay down their weapons. that they will not be prosecuted, but the demonstrators say then nothing of it and they have no faith in kiev's government. >> jessica, i want to draw everybody's attention to, and i don't know if we can put that video up from eastern ukraine. these look like they are citizens. i don't see people in this video in camouflage wear. are citizens arguing with each other near that border too? >> absolutely. we have young and old. women. a lot of women actually bringing their children out there. the elderly. it's the same situation that was happening in kiev. you saw your average vladmir and

average sach cha arguing with each other. some people want to stay with kiev and others want to go to russia. we're talking about average people here. they are not trained soldiers. they are people who want a better lives for themselves and their family. there's a lot of information that's misleading to these people and they are trying to get information from each other. a lot of fights obviously break out. we've had scuffles. the situation could get very tense. as you mentioned earlier there are tens of thousands of russian-speaking troops on the border of ukraine. if russia chose to move in, they could basically capture whatever they wanted to capture within three to five days. >> right because they were -- >> this is a very tense situation. >> some estimates put the number of pro russian troops or forces at 80,000. before i let you go, jessica, i want to ask about something that

was just crossing the reuters and associated press wires a short time ago. the central bank governor of ukraine said that their economy is in deep jeopardy. they have enough to pay debt should they see some sort of run on the banches. he's letting people know we have enough money in the banks but further pressure in this situation with russia could destabilize and drive inflation into the double digits. >> i think people are panic since this whole thing began in february. nine out of ten banks that i went to ukraine, i couldn't get money out of. people are worried. the problem is if the economy is unstable and we have as we mentioned this threat from russia, it just makes this situation that much more worse. ukraine is 39 billion $rin debt.

obviously, we know that russia controls the gas that's flowing in and out of ukraine. there are a lot of problems. people are withdrawing money and i think a lot of people have also gotten used to it within the last six weeks or so. they roll their eyes. what else is going to happen? they are used to it, but that doesn't mean the situation is going to get better. we're going to have to wait and see. tomorrow, 5:00 a.m., gm time is when ukraine will make its move. i think it's a wait and see. >> jessica, you've got this call now by russia at the united nations for this emergency meeting and we told our viewers just a short time ago, we don't have a lot of details what russia wants to talk about. we can only ascertain it's probably about this situation. it's that deadline coming from ukraine and this meeting tonight. we'll keep everybody posted. we appreciate it. thanks, jessica. >> my pleasure. a ranker versus the federal

government here at tomorrow william. >> a day after the government backed down in their stand-off with that nevada rancher, the bundy family is assessing the damage, including more than a dozen calves orphaned from their mothers. i'll have the details coming up on the "fox report." all we do is go out to dinner. that's it? i mean, he picks up the tab every time, which is great...

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. breaking news tonight in kansas. deadly shootings at a jewish community center. police say a gun man opened fire at jecc. officers say two men died there. we do not know the victims

names. the gun man drove a mile away and fired at a retirement home. call the jewish that loam. a to that of five people shot in these attacks. police arrested this man. he's in his 70s. they are investigating it as a hate crime. every option is on the table as to what type of crime this was. officers say at this point it's not believed the gunman knew any of the victims. a stand-off we watched it end between a rancher out in nevada and the federal government, but the legal fight is not over. the feds released some 400 cows, rounding them up on that ranch and gave them back to the owner. there they are. his name is cliven bundy. the bureau began confiscating the cattle last week after bundy refused to pay grazing fees to the federal government and to

protect an endangered tortoise that lives on that land. this fight has sparked a wider debate about states rights and federal land use. americans coming to his aid. the feds ended the cattle round up citing a serious concern for safety. women -- -- wum, yet another bses active day out there. >> it has been but of course this being sunday in this part of nevada not everyone is out. i will say that bundy family is assessing the damage in their property, which the blm admits they did tear down tor tor rals and -- corrals and water

troughs. it was demand that blm agents holding their cattle released them from their pens. local police and s.w.a.t. rushed to the scene hoping to prevent a shoot-out. witnesses say both sides had their guns out and as this picture shows, you can see a protest we are a rifle in a sniper position. as protesters arrived on horseback. >> those men, did not know the militia did not up there behind them. they thought they were on their own. they rode in on horseback underneath that ridge. they stood that line of guns by the federal government against them without the knowledge that they had help. >> now, this incident lasted about 30 minutes. the blm says they are investigating. also, at this point, they say they stopped and pulled out out of safety for their employees

and for the public. harris. >> william, we saw this on social media and now we've her from the bundy family. this wasn't damage -- this wasn't just land that was damaged. some of those cattle are not in good shape. >> that's right. and as of friday night, the blm said it had seized about 380 cattle. all but 10 belonged to the bundys. that release only happened after protester refused to move and refused to allow the employees leave the area. the high stakes stand-off lasted about 30 minutes but because this was calving season, it made the operation more confrontational. the family says they have 18 or fans that may or may not find their mother. >> these cows are going to be on the run. they have got little babies cows with them that can't keep up.

it's hot country. what they have created is a lot of or fan calves. >> the environmentalists consider bundy an anarchist. the government considers him an outlaw and will continue to pursue him in the courts. >> it's hard to hear this about the animals. this is also the bundy's livelihood. it's a business for them. we'll be talking more about this with the insiders coming up. william, thank you very much. as william just said, hundreds of people are crossing state lines to support cliven bundy in his fight against the feds. why do americans care or do they? do you? our political analysts want to hear from you. first, back to our stop story. three people killed, a gunman opening fire at two jewish-related venues.

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hour, if you are joining us. we're going to talk politics, south carolina senator scott says confirmation hearings for sylvia burwell will be fair, but the hearings will focus on what many republicans say are the problems with obamacare. burwell's work was praised while she was the budget director. she's taking over at hhs and that will not wipe away the problems with the president's signature health care law. >> they know they have got a math problem with obamacare and the numbers are not going to work out so that the program is sound, and they are going to have to somebody to kind of spin the numbers and this is something with burwell coming from omv, i think they are expecting her to be able to do for them. >> meanwhile, outgoing kathleen

sebelius spoke about the own predictions that the website would be ready by october 1st were flat-out wrong. >> it was a dismissal time at hhs while health care.gov was crippled by problems. kathleen sebelius was on the job for five years and announced her departure after the deadline to sign-up for new coverage. >> i made it really clear that wasn't an option to stay on. >> president obama wants sylvia burwell to succeed kathleen sebelius. republicans are looking at her nomination with raised eyebrows. wondering if politics will influence the agency inappropriately. >> will the next secretary have america first, americans first or will they have the administration's policies and trying to carry the water for

the president as their primary responsibility? >> many republicans are reminding the public about the rocky roll-out of health care.gov. both sides agree that this change at the top is a positive step. >> i think it probably is a good thing to have a new face going forward, and sylvia matthews burwell is a very good choice. she has a lot of good will on the republican side, and she has a lot of experience and ability. >> sylvia burwell's nomination has already been sent to the senate where the republican minute nority -- minute nority leader mitch mcconnell said we should her about obamacare shortcomings during the hearings. >> gentlemen, good to see you, tonight. i want to get your idea about what happens next with this confirmation for sylvia burwell.

>> i know sylvia quite well. worked with her in the clinton administration, she is as reported a first-class woman with bipartisan support. to answer your question specifically, the republicans should and argue you'lly need to use the hearings to get to the bottom of what the numbers mean, what the 7-7.5 million sign-ups mean in terms of demographics and most importantly how many have paid. she needs to really offer specific solutions to fixing obamacare in terms of coverage and premiums. the republicans need to use this as the base to show that their constructive on health care, not just using it to go negative for a political reason given the elections in the fall. >> pat, what happens next? >> well i think doug summed it up. one thing, sebelius is not going to be a vice president for anybody for sure. it took forever to get rid of her. you know, this declaring victory.

when george achens had been in vietnam, we should declare victory and get out, was not a bad strategy for vietnam. unfortunately, obamacare declared victory but this goes on and on. the hearing will display that. i don't care how good this woman is. this is a question about the bill. whether they can take like these phony numbers, these phony promises and what's coming next has been put off because of the election, so the people already know, you know. >> you know, john, i'm curious to know if this is in fact part of a political play for the democrats to try to turn the corner. you heard the president say last week the first quarter is behind us. i'm paraphrasing him and now we move forward and i guess part of that was then sebelius's exit, but does this hem them turn the corner. >> among their own supporters maybe it does. among the public, independent voters, it does not help them. and by the way on the hearings on ms. burwell, the republicans

need to do everything pat and doug said, but the tone of how they do it is crucial. if they get all in her face, all rough and accusatory, they are going to are hurt themselves. >> you can't ask tough questions. >> you can ask tough questions but i saw a clip yesterday of senator sessions interviewing somebody and he was like perry mason. yes or no. yes or no. i want a yes or no. >> if you are in that position, you guys ask me tough questions all the time. you put me -- come on. >> republicans have negatives over 50%. they are seen as too shrill and too harsh. they have the advantage on the issue. what they lack is a program and a policy going forward. >> what they they need to express, going on how could we have this? how could you change the law? how could you rewrite the law constantly? how did we get here? why did nobody read the bills?

the poll last week, which is hardly described as a right wing apology polling operation came out with a poll that people are opposed to obama care. >> i call that, pat, the passio. and going into this year, the passion, harris, is against obamacare. that poll that pat cites, 58% of people disapprove of obamacare. 58% and of them, 80% said they are going to vote expressly against democrats because of obamacare. so there's the passion and that's why thes president is not talking obamacare now. he's talking minimum wage. equal pay for women. they want to get off this thing. >> the war on women, of minimum wage, combined with unemployment insurance, fairness, in other words. >> the way you describe it, though, and i'm pushing back a

little bit, because i'm trying to get to the negative, when are you allowed to ask tough questions, no matter who is in charge? >> how you ask them. you ask us. you are nice when you ask us. >> they don't see our preshow conversations. >> do you ever hear people describe republicans nice anymore. they used to say it in the reagan years. people they say they are people. >> this should be used to do is to take this law apart piece by piece by piece and how it's been handled and by the way it's a chinese water -- i'm sorry to use this expression, pulling the wings off a fly. it is not taking a hammer to her. >> the perfect example of a congressman not knowing how to ask questions and behave on tv at a hearing is darrell issa. every time you see him, his

behavior goes against what he's trying to accomplish. >> let me offer a slightly different explanation. the swing voters are independents now who are hostile to the democrats, but they want practical alternatives. they are not looking for just a tax, how do we fix it. so far, the republicans have yet to offer answers. >> i want to talk about the other story that topped our news. we were waiting an emergency meeting at the united nations with the russian and ukrainian crisis. the ukrainian leadership is threatening russia to get their forces out. >> the russian position is that the ukrainian military has now threatened the interests of russians in eastern ukraine and what vladimir putin has said very clearly and unabashedly, if

russian interests are threatened, he will use ever power in his means to protect them. this is a pretext for a full russian invasion of eastern ukraine as we have been talking about for the last month or so. >> which means that putin has calculated i vladimir putin can go take part of the ukraine and whatever retribution is coming from president obama, america -- merckle, i can handle any of it. >> we saw this week, the iranian ambassador, someone that was involved in the hostage crisis seizing people, we finally -- the administration finally said no. the real question, i didn't hear this this morning, why were the iranians, why would they seeven do this, was to put it in their face they can get away with everything? that is what putin is doing.

putin has taken the measure of barack obama and found his chamberlin. the failure to lead, this nonleading is unbelievable. they are surrendering the world. >> i want to make it clear on iran, because that's an interesting point that you are making. so they were going to send this ambassador over -- the united states said no, but you said 100 senators stood before the white house to listen. just to paint a picture, in the '79 hostage crisis, this person would have been a computer expert and a student that took our people. >> the answer was they want to sent a message to us, by the way, it was like this -- what it tells you is what we all know is the nuclear deal is a fraud. they are going to get a nuclear weapon. this administration is to separate to look like they made

an agreement with anybody. >> they would undermine the nuclear talks if we don't do their bidding on the ukraine. >> before we go to a commercial break here, i have to ask what can president obama do with the situation in russia and ukraine right now. it looks like we're on the verge of something, i don't know what it is but it's ugly. >> no, no. he could have done already. he should have done a lot. >> now going forward, what do we do. >> even now, we can quickly get some unity on some -- >> military aid. missile defense. make it clear that we are going to tighten sanctions which have been porous and not expansive enough. we haven't really done much of anything yet. >> we're sending vice president joe biden on april 22nd. last 15 seconds. >> on the 22nd, next week, instead of tomorrow, we're sending him next week, this president doesn't know how to lead -- they think it's a joke. >> the federal government

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a tremendous outpouring of support for a nevada rancher battling the federal government this weekend. the feds now backing off and returning cows to the rancher. our fox news political insiders are back. boy, we did not know how this was going to end yesterday. i want to share some tweets now at harris faulkner. >> yes, we care. this is a government overreach.

the government owns 86% of nevada? we the people own it. doug. >> well, absolutely right. this is a classic reaction against government overreaching. we talk every week about anger and there's no more anger in america than about the encroachment of the federal government. april 15th is coming up. tax day inspired the tea party which was initially bipartisan. harris, there is a lot of spontaneous anger in america. this could be the first spark. >> all right. two bits of fact here. the bundy family, cliven bundy is the rancher. they have been letting their family gris on graze on that land since the 1800s. they are they say this rancher owes $1.1 million to the government. >> people have been grazing on the public land since the 1800s.

look whatever those snants are, the government is domg down on people. whether it was the disaster of ruby ridge or whatever, people don't like it. right now we've got the highest percentage of ever that there's threat in lives is big government as opposed to big labor. what we see that is corruption, whether it's benghazi, the irs scandal. the question you ask doug, which is interesting that the twitterer said it's our land. no longer do the american people see the federal government as their government. that is a dangerous in this democracy and as doug said we are one spark away from something unpleasant happening, whether it's with this or another incident, and, you know, and the anger is out there. you just keep pouring into this. >> we're following breaking news out of suburban kansas city. a gun man opened fired at two

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. i want to bring the latest now from kansas city. three people dead after a gunman targeted a jewish community center and a retirement home about a mile away. joining us now is melissa stern. she was in the parking lot in the jcc on her day off. she's joining us now to tell us what she saw. >> i was actually on the phone with my mom. i was walking into the jcc and i heard a loud noise which kind of sounded like an explosion. i guess it was echoing off the buildings. i turn around and i see two men running toward me. i started running with them, i asked one of them if that was gunshots. we just witnessed a man shoot

someone on the parking lot. so we ran inside and i told them call 911, someone is shooting people in the parking lot and they put the entire place on lockdown and we all went to the tornado shelter which was the locker rooms and they were in there for about 45 minutes. they let us out and they wouldn't let us leave the building. they let us stay in the hallway in the building for another 20 minutes or so. there was some young girls in the bathroom and they were crying. i let them use my phone to call their parents. it was unreal. i couldn't believe it was happening. i, of course, called the station right away and told them to send people out because i knew that this was going to be a very big story. >> absolutely. and a very bad situation. glad you were safe tonight, melissa stern. just real quickly. were there any threats that you know about for either of those locations? i know you probably had to go work right after that scene and start towork with questions. >> yeah. i did go right to work. i was interviewing people inside

the building. i did not hear any threats. we're told that one of -- the shooter was yelling hail hitler and asking people if they were jewish before he was shooting them. that's just what people are telling us. of course, i ran in as soon as i heard four or five gunshots go off, but we believe it was a hate crime, and of course, he was attacking jewish centers. so i spoke to a gentleman who was in there who didn't even belong to the jcc, he was just there for some umpire event, and he said that he was the one who ran toward me and actually saw the shooter, so -- >> melissa stern. a reporter from our fox affiliate. they are investigating this as a hate crime. a lot of things are on the table they tell us as well. we appreciate you reporting and you being safe tonight. thank you. with the political insiders here, the conversation can continue on twitter at

ininsiders. we have a lot of tweets that people have responded to. on our website, doug, pat, john, always good to see you. everybody have a wonderful holiday. huckabee is now. [ female announcer hands were made for playing.

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