if the russians take it over. you didn't hear in detail what the russians are planning, because what they are planning has some u.s. jnls general crazy. hello, everyone. i'm kimberly guilfoyle, along with bob beckle, dana perino, and greg gut feled this is the "the five." well the tense stand-off between a nevada ran cher and the feds is over for now. the government is vowing to take the fight back to court. thankfully it was resolved over the weekend with no violence. now, bundy says the land his an ses ter settles on belongs to nevada. here's some of his family members after the feds backed

down. those cattle are ours. they are cliven bundy's stolen cattle. they realize it. they get to come home. >> we the people have just had enough of tyranny of government. on all levels, federal, state, county levels, the people are tired of being owe prosed by government. >> you heard it here, the cows are coming home to graze. that's the update for the day. so who is in the right here, eric? was the right decision, did they back down because they were afraid of having a kind of violence, militia, something like that? >> i they are doing right thing. they are a lot of media coverage of it. i think the feds did a right thing. there's a lot of questions what's really going on there. does the bundy family have the

right to be grazing. these are cows want to eat a little grass. the feds returned over $4 billion to the wrong people last year alone. negotiate down to a number that's reasonable for both. i'm glad to see everything calmed down and let it get fixed in court. >> there's a real legal question as to the land, meaning they have the right to have their 400 head of cattle graze there or is there something that the government is in the right? when you go and take a u.s. tax-paying citizen or at least partially in arrears, his property, those are his cattle, then you are having a whole other situation. >> i think the republican governor brian sandoval was probably the best voice of reason of all of this, you might have a point, this is a state issue not a federal issue. can you back off and let us deal with it like reasonable people?

i think the problems that the administration, the white house was about to have is that you had the video of the tasing and the build up and this escalation, and the story line, whether it's fair or not, but it was developing on the left was that the federal government is sending a sniper to shoot at people to protect its turtle. that is the message that they were about to send, and so i think everybody backing off. there's bigger questions here about endangered species act reform and also how elitists on the coast are condescending of those who live a life in rural america. >> i'm happy for the cattle. i'm heard there's going to be a hannity special. cattle will be in the audience to answer anybody's questions. it goes back to these turtles. the bigger implication here it's

a symbol of a government that's more inclined to target citizens than their enemies. if we had the endangered tortoises in benghazi, would the response have been greater? if -- even though there's some lawlessness involved here, the response is to be for the individual, even if the individual broke some laws. the fact is this reveals the flaws of a big government. it's a clump of coercion that does not know how to negotiate with people. there's no reason or dialog. it's kind of refreshing they decided not to swat. >> they made the right decision because it had the potential to blow-up in everybody's faces and people could have gotten hurt. one, it is not his land. >> he's saying the land belongs to the state of nevada, therefore people who live there have a right. that's his argument.

>> you could argue that all you want. that's been in and out of court for years. at some point you are going to have negotiate what is federal land or no. there's 16,000 other rank ranchers and pay their taxes and he's not. getting the cattle home and get them off to the slaughter house. >> that's not the point. >> the next move ought to be forget sending in guys with it's a -- tase r's. grab hold of what he's got. >> it's not about you owe the million dollars in grazing fees, it's really about the desert tortoise, that's when it all started.

they pushed the envelope with that. there's a google-owned power plant in the same desert. they moved the tortoises for that. harry reid, there's a link to him, one of the people that used to work for him is somehow tied to the bureau of land management. >> his name is neil korn. guys that work in natural resources says he's a really good guy. comes from that area. he actually gets high marks from both sides. >> can i make the point? that's when the feds seemed to back off. when that link to harry reid was established, you know what, let's bring this tone down. >> the last thing they wanted to see was another waco or ruby ridge. it's been 20 years in and out of court in this guy.

now, i guess, when he sends his cattle to slaughter, grab his profits. >> these are small victories for a large segment of society, but they are minor compared to the larger victories which are elections. the real war is the election. not stand-offs in nevada. they will come and go, and things will wurn turn out okay, but the white house who prefer you focus on that, rather than the bigger question how do you win 2016. this is just a distraction. >> remember, when they had a town hall, standing room only. you don't get a group like that together just because of one person's cows. this is a cull my nation of a lot of frustration and the condescending tone from a lot of democrats toward people in rural america, for example, there's a

congressman named bruce braley from "awa. he was caught on tape that you might have a farmer from iowa who never went to law school, never practiced law, serving as the next chair of the senate judiciary committee. that was seen as yet another swipe as we're better than you because we're more educated. i think that the most wise people i've ever known, don't live in cities. they don't sit at a desk. but on a saddle. their office isn't sitting on a bunch of crap, but on a horse. >> can i throw a number at you? 12 million ill lels in this country right now, continuing to come over. they will come and have a baby. it costs $3,000 to have a baby.

how much do you think 12 million cost this country a year when they have a baby? >> how did you get that? >> they are going to end up settling for a couple hundred thousands on this. you know and i know, when you have a dispute with the irs, they think you owe this, you think that, you come out in the middle somewhere. $200,000 meanwhile. tens of billions of dollars we're spending on people who come over here illegally. where's the priority? >> there's the bills have been floating there for a long time and it's got to get resolved. >> there's a number of issues at place here. who owns the land? what are his rights? did he in some way assert his possession by graze gs on it openly in front of him. and now they took his property. now they are going to court because they realize that's a way to avoid a conflict here and potential danger? >> what is not in question.

it's not his land. it belongs to the federal government. maybe it shouldn't belong to them. they have got a legitimate issue. when 85% of the state is owned by the federal government, but it is not his land. let's make that clear. >> he's not even saying it's land. he's saying he's been grazing on it for years and years. >> at the root of this problem, we go back to the tortoise. the tortoise is at fault here. i don't understand why they are on endangered list. how are you still here when you walk so slow in get with the program. >> you seem to be a little heartless where tortoises are concerned? >> they smell funny. have you ever gotten close to a tortoise or a turtle? they have an odd smell. they are cockyn in their little

homes. >> you have powerful people like heller in nevada. people are looking out for rural america in the u.s. senate. >> cliven bundy will tell the story of what went down this weekend and how his family will continue their fight against the feds. up next, the journalist who spent two decades with cbs, reveals the behind the scenes info on just how far the obama administration will go. when we return on "the five." ♪

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20 years at cbs news. she resigned from the network last month. here's what she's telling "fox news" what she calls aggressive restrictions put on journalists by the obama administration. >> there's always been calls from the white house under any administration, i assume, when they don't like a particular story but it's particularly aggressive under the obama administration. i think it's a campaign very well organized. it's designed to have a chilling effect and to some degree has been getting somewhat sufficiently -- successful in getting broadcast producer to don't want to deal with the headache of it. >> this is the first time that somebody has come out and said it. she no longer works for cbs news. >> i don't know. maybe the obama administration is more organized about keeping

the press out than other administrations. i mean, you were there and you know there were things -- >> and i was terrible at that. >> well, okay, but leaving that aside, the obama people are pretty good at it, they were good at it during the campaign. the other thing she fails to mention here is her network and other networks have not put the money and resources into investigative reporting than they used to do. this all started from watergate. you can get this stuff the question whether the network, she said they are intimidated. i doubt it. >> that's interesting because just last week, eric, two jurm journalists. lisa myers and michael isikoff. does bob have a point about lack of investigative reporting?

>> sheryl atkisson says she would do a story and it would be cut and it would be changed completely from the story she had from the very beginning. they have just chosen not to do it. she also said interestingly, it's individual producers are doing this. i'm not sure necessarily a culture from the top. i'm not sure how it would work out. >> it might hurt your invitations to cocktail parties. >> the media no longer exists because they want to be liked and they want to be liked by the person they love, which is president obama. the white house to them is like a sick child would you tell immunity and they are offering the plastic bubble to protect the white house from actual criticism. they don't want president obama to dislike them. >> do you think she finally had enough and said i don't want to

live my like this and do something more meaningful. >> it's about self-respect and she's a serious journalist and she believes what she's doing. she wants to work at a place that respects what she does. she doesn't want her stuff currenciered. -- her computer was accessed on a number of occasions by outside sources, this is no way to live or work. that's not an appropriate professional journalistic environment. she needs to be a place that respects the journalism she does. >> is the suggestion that the producers at cbs are under the thumb of the white house? >> i think it's multiple things that the white house is very aggressive and calling and telling you to shut the you know what about something. i don't know, because -- i

wasn't very good at that. >> last word on this. we've got another topic. >> bob said all stragses do this and he mentioned you, dana. what they didn't do and what other white house presidents haven't done is say that he promised the most transparent administration in history and he delivers the exact opposite and the hypocrisy there -- >> transparent like cement. >> he took it to another level. i'm going to grant you that. there was another issue that was burning up the twitter this weekend. here's congressman steve israel with comments about the republicans that weren't so nice. >> do you think your republican colleagues are racist? >> not all of them. no, of course not. but to a significant extent, the republican base does have elements that are animated by racism and that's unfortunate. liberalism has kind of a tour et's syndrome these day.

there's kind of a intech elect turl profort right now. >> what do you think make of that? >> you know when a skunk is spooked, it sprays everything with a noxious cloud. that's israel. he's an incompetent boob. i'm talking about the congressman. the higher the incompetence, the louder the cries of racism. you know what i loved about him and it was so nice of him to say that, when candy said, do you think they are all racists? no, no, no, not all of them. >> oh, well, thank you so much. you know, what? he's a racist and he's a homophobe because he believes he can read into the intent of other people's thoughts. he can tell you that you are race i have without you ever doing some racist. i can do that by him, just by looking at him, i can tell he's a disgusting racist individual

and he should be ashamed of himself. and i don't have any evidence. >> do you think he believes that or a campaign tactic for 2014. >> i would hope that he actually believes it because then there's truth and honesty coming out of his core. this is dangerous and wreckless and. >> dangerous when you are trying to go into this territory, bob, when you are trying to focus on the economy and jobs? >> i think some members of the congress are racist, i don't know of one, if there is one -- let's put it this way, racism is alive in america. it's not nearly as overt as it was. there are democrats who are racists, there are republicans who are racists and independents who are racists. in the end, in the last election, you can be sure of one thing, the racists who voted, voted against obama, and the

racists who voted for him? >> no, i don't think so. >> those who voted, voted against obama. that's a big --. >> very quick, israel said the republican base gets animated by race. guess what? maybe it does or maybe it doesn't. i don't know. if they do, so does the progressive base, there's a wing of the progressive base that gets animated by race. >> i don't think there's an organized base of the republican party that's racist at all. >> anyway, everybody here, we all get along. nobody is racist. all these different points of view. next, eric is next, featuring a wheel of for tune contest, mark wahlberg and an al sharpton

imperson nater. coming up next. ñ

>> welcome become to the fastest seven minutes in tv news. three snarky stories. god making a come back in hollywood. last month, it was matthew mcconaughey thanking god and at the mt movie awards, mark wahlberg thanking the good lord for his success. bubba watson, a great lefty won. and it's also palm sunday. i love the lord. i love my wife. >> you've been known to hang out with mark wahlberg.

>> i think he's a really great person. i like his whole family. i think he makes good movies. he's very patriotic and pro america. i didn't know him socially over the years and the point is he's an upstanding person. truth. the military troops that he's come in contact with think he's a stand-up guy. i think he's able to say it's palm sunday, thank the lord for his good for tune. >> is it cool to bring the lord back into the acceptance speech? >> by god, you mean obama? >> anything else? i thought that was brilliant and so glad you are back and so well rested. >> he dropped a few f bombs prior to that. >> obama?

>> no. ah-ha gotcha there. bob beckle is the real mark wahlberg fan. >> ted. >> ted was based on you, bob. the talking teddie bear. >> he had a few parties at his house. >> that's it. we're going to leave -- >> thank god you had me por that block. >> al not so sharp. we told you about al clad only in jump suits, being involved in a drug. >> that's why i wore this floor length leather duster and academy i alack -- cadillac medallion. let's get down to business?

>> you heard it's snowing outside. >> snowing, it's june. i came here to get some cocaine. >> easy. >> it's kind of a parody, greg. >> you can't parody a parody. al sharpton is funny than al sharpton. the real skit is his show, msnbc's show. it's horrifying. i practically pee myself. >> it's some of the gift that keeps on giving. they have got unbelievable covers of him. somehow, the president thinks everything okay. goes to his national network conference. >> that scheduling was done well in advance. i i tell you the worst thing

that could happen to al to have that story link. it brings back all the old stories. track suits. toe want -- at that want in a recally. -- many. >> i'm going to say with parody comes acceptance so what they are basically saying he's a joke. it's a punch line and any possible crime is forgiven. >> bring up towana brawley. >> meet julian bats who are three of those moments in a row on national television. it hurts bad to watch. wow. >> l. >> 4 ls.

pick that up. >> myth logical he kal hero ach-i-hill-es. >> myth logical hero achilles. >> that's not fair. that's a pronunciation issue. >> he blew a shot for a million bucks. he blew one for a trip. you have to pronounce it, kg. >> oh, please. who has this table hasn't blown a few prounctions? >> who among us who has not been exactly where he is. >> so what, he solved it. i will get a lawyer. god knows there's enough of them. >> are you volunteering your services? >> you have to pronounce the puzzle properly. >> it's ridiculous.

>> he ended up winning the show. >> he did. so it was kind of a round about way to get there. in reality, having done jeopardy and did it poorly, even though i was winning going into the commercial break, i've not had nerves like that ever, even briefing the press corps, not a problem. when i was doing that, i've never had so many nerves. if you can spell it on wheel of for tune, i don't know why you have to be able to pronounce it. >> i tell you why, pat sajak is evil. the wheel is a hypnotic device where they send subliminal messages. the other contest tants could have done something. they could have purposely mispronounced it and he could have won. >> no, i wouldn't have done that. >> remember lassie, they had

five different lassies they had on the show. >> there's no good of. >> these are college kids. i don't care. not nice. >> is it nice to do that? >> college kids don't know how to pronounce achilles? >> i probably didn't know how to pronounce it until maybe three months ago. >> you spell the answer wrong on final jeopardy, do you not win? if you have a typo or something, i don't think so. >> what are you saying, jeopardy is more fair than wheel of fortune. >> we should have some clarity on the rules. >> that's why i always watch let's make a deal reruns. >> i'm with the producers, listen, you guys, you got to be able to pronounce it right. >> you should watch love connection instead.

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in a new movie that i woep see called "nonstop" lee am neeson plays an air marshall. a propaganda victory for those who hate us. my nephew just saw it. the terrorist turns out to be a 911 victim family member aided by a military man. the motive for the bad guys attack to help increase security

to prevent further attacks. so only 13 years after 9/11, you have a film where a 9/11 victim family member is now a terrorist. so what's next? a moving about a boston bombing victim blowing up other races? and a muslim doctor stops him? how about a man who beats women who increase awareness of domestic abuse? this flick is by phobia. the mirrors reverse good and evil. at the end of movie, liam lives and the bad guys die. >> i hate talking about movies i haven't seen. he was so upset when he saw

this. his eyeballs threw up. shouldn't this movie -- kind of offensive of people any way affiliated with 9/11. >> i'm completely offended by it. i was in the world trade center in '93, when they blew that one up. they made the victims now the perpetrators of the next crimes and the muslims are going to save them. on friday, i said cair is the muslim mafia. cair is -- i'm surprised cair is not out saying everyone should go this. cair is the p.r. wing of the muslim brother hood and hamas. they need some p.r. out there to hide all the antics behind the scenes. cair is the muslim mafia. i completely agree with you. >> dana, we've talk about this before. in hollywood, the villains can't

be traditional villains that you see in life. it always has to reflect poorly on the western values. we somehow have to be the bad guy. >> in almost any other country, a movie would have been done about 9/11 that was true to 9/11, and there's probably very few people in hollywood that would be willing to do this movie that we could probably sketch it out right here and cast it right here on the show. >> there was a great movie, about the flight. >> yes, flight 93. in reality, victims of 9/11 and their families have done the exact opposite. they have grieved privately. they have tried to move on with their lives. i spoke with a widow yet today this is another movie she will make sure to avoid. >> i hate talking about something i've not seen. my buddy saw it when he was in the movie theater, when they revealed who the terrorist was,

people in new york city were are you out of your mind? >> i find it aamazing, the assumption here they sat around when they were writing this movie, a good person to be the villain would be a 9/11 family member and the person who is going to be a hero is going to be a muslim doctor? it's hard for me to fathom that you could actually do that consciously. you think they did that consciously? >> i think, the muslim character, because he's dressed in full muslim garb, he's supposed to arouse suspicion because we're a bunch of white bigots and then at the end he's not. he actually helps neeson. it's the 9/11 family member. >> i think it's too soon. i think it's very disrespectful to families. how about never? that's the whole point of this. i don't understand why someone thought this was a good idea to

make a movie like this and i really like liam neeson and i wish he didn't do it. >> is it possible that he didn't read the script to the end? >> i don't know. >> do they ever holdback the ending from the main character? >> i don't see liam neeson as a whack job. he seems like a sensible guy. coming up, pope francis kicks off holy week with sprayer and selfies. we'll take a look at the people's pontiff. first year on the job. next on "the five."

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♪ the week before easter, it began yesterday on palm sunday. pope francis marked the day with an off the cuff hom ily. the pontiff was the subject of an in-depth piece on "60 minutes."

>> in the church that he dreams of looks like what? >> a missionary church that shows the mercy of god, a church that's not wagoning its finker at people, not scolding people, but is inviting people. walking with people, befriending people. he used the word sit i dell. he's called the church a field hospital after a battle. >> eric, you have a dwout catholic. how have you change this guy has brought? have you felt it and seen in your worship? >> everyone loves the pope. everyone loves this guy because the stories about -- and now "60 minutes" pointed out that the stories aren't quite true that he would get out and talk to people in the street. he's done some things that other popes haven't done. on palm sunday, he washed the feet of people, some people are

in jail, normally their feet wouldn't be washed. he's a great spokesman for cath licks around the world. his approval rating is going to go higher. >> it should go higher. he is a man who really lives the word and he practices what he preeches. he leads by an example and i think we're very fortunate to have been able to see him in our lifetime. >> do you have any thoughts about the pope? >> he is offering modern examples of ancient lessons. i like to watch the pope's press office has transformed in the last couple of years, but in particular this last year, whether the pope is just hands off or he is actually telling the press office, go with it, let's try to figure out a way to communicate with people in a new modern way, it's very interesting to see from a p.r. standpoint. >> since we have the resident expert, greg gutfeld, you want

to give us a headline or two? >> i talk to the pope daily. give advice here or there. there's one thing, make the self-ie, he should announce that selfies are a tool of sateen. they are a celebration of nars six. >> the catholic church in my view was a higher arc kal. ths given me a whole different view of cath lix because of this guy, because of this guy. >> are you going to convert? >> no. >> one more thing is up next.

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than once and that will reduce the use of detergent. the fact is if you feel really strong about this hotel why don't you pass the savings on to us? i use twice as many towels. the things i do with some of the towels are disgusting. i hate these people. and dolphins. >> i'm with you on that and all the paper this they use to print these. there's like four of them in every room. >> bob uses lots of towels too but nas at hannity's. >> last weekend, it used to be called children's hospital in washington, is now called children's national hospital had a fund-raiser and it was coe hosted by our own bret baier whose son had been through multiple operations through the children's hospital. he and his wife and ambassador and his wife from the arab

emirates raised over $10.7 million for the hospital. it's -- they are going to have a book coming out this fall. >> great family. dana. >> you are going to love this one more thing, kimberly. because one of my favorite people in the whole world is preston. he's got america's cow. i just want to tell you all you girls. >> it's against the law. >> it's not against the law. let me tell you he's the most eligible bachelor, kimberly. >> i can see why. making out with cows. the man is a per vert. >> no, i mean, he's obviously very affectionate and cows love him. what's not to like, you know what i'm saying? >> we don't know if the cows love him. the cows may be terrified. >> and he pays his grazing fees,

i hear. >> that's true, he does. >> here's what we found out on average of 2012, talking about war on women, the democrats say the republicans have a war on women. the average month food stamp recipient in america 46,609,000 and women in full-time employment in america were 44 million, so 2.5 million people were on food stamps. only three times it's happened in history. obama twice and carter one. >> they are so happy you've done that. >> multiple white boards. >> he's the edward scissor hands of white boards. chok one up for america, ladies and gentlemen, because the commerce department has second thoughts about surrendering america's oversight. they have decided not to after objections from president bill

clinton and 35 republicans u.s. senators. now we're going to keep it. keep it forever. don't give it up. don't forget to set your dvr. back here tomorrow. "special report "is next. is russia on the brink of moving into eastern ukraine and if it it does? then what? an already tense situation getting more so tonight. this is "special report." good evening, i'm bret baier, we begin in a part of the world that grows more dangerous by the day. presidents obama and putin talked on the phone late today about ukraine. pro russian mobs now controlled ukrainian government buildings in at least nine cities. ukraine is threatening to use force to get them out. while on the border, thousands of