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british hearts. a 79-year-old granny and her 39-year-old dancing partner pulling off a salsa routine. i want to be like her when i'm 79. i want to be like her now. see you tomorrow night. welcome to hannity and this is a fox news alert. the federal government may have surrendered against the battle against bundy but senator harry reid said this is not end. >> well, it's not over. we haven't have an american people that violate the law and just walk away from it, so it's not good. in a moment bundy will be back. a former nevada sheriff claims his sources inside the federal government say that the bureau of land management may be quietly planning to raid the bundy ranch. now we reached out to the former
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sheriff for confirmation. he told our team of producers today quote, we have intel sources government, law enforcement insiders that have told us the federal government was considering pulling back, having us think that everything was fine and then when we got comfortable and dropped our defenses then they would come in and raid the ranch. we don't know if it was a specific plan but after hearing harry reid's comments we think they are going to come in for a surprise midnight raid. given that warning could there be another standoff brewing tonight? back with us the rancher himself and his daughter and his son. guys welcome back. there's been a lot of reports about this. what do you make of the sheriff's comments, cliven? >> i really don't know nothing about that. you know, i can say one thing. we had a beautiful moon last night. i thought that thing might be fixed up by the federal government. i'm not sure. it was different that's for sure. >> let's put these two things together here. we have the former sheriff of
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grand county, arizona. he made the comment that he has sources inside the federal government warning that the weekend retreat was only a move to distract attention, diffuse everything because a raid on the family's ranch is planned, coupled with harry reid's comments that this is not over. you got believe that something is brewing here? >> i got something to say to harry. you know, harry, nevada citizen, we the people elected you to go
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back to united states senate and take care of united states business, which might be something like defend us from foreign nations. harry, get back there and take care of that work and leave us alone here in nevada. you have no business here in clark county, nevada. >> if he's saying it's not over and then you have a sheriff saying he has sources inside the government, what would happen -- we saw the raid with gonzalez, i'm not sure if you remember that raid. what would happen if they came in the early morning hours one day to your ranch? >> well, first they got to say harry get your army out of nevada. get your army way from my ranch and keep it out. if they come we'll deal with them tonight because if that's what we got to do we'll deal with them. if you got guts enough come on. >> he also said, i don't think it's possible to launch a raid without violence. if they came to a rescue, would
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you surrender? >> i went to the proper authorities. >> meaning? >> i don't believe -- it would have to be clark county sheriff. he don't arrest me. i would let him arrest me. he's the only man -- >> go ahead. >> he's the only man with arresting power in clark county, nevada. >> there was the hill newspaper today they also said that bureau of land management that they are trying to do this administratively and put out a statement, the director who used to work for harry reid said in a statement following all of this that after the decision that their plan now is to use the courts with the hope of bankrupting you, quote they will press charges against you in federal court, they will try to basically bleed your ability to defend yourself and beat you up on technical grounds. that's a direct quote from the hill today. what's your response to that? >> well, that's not new. that's what they have been doing for the last 20 years. last two years they had about seven united states attorneys working on me every day and i'll guarantee you, come on we'll take you on. i have four certified letters we picked out of the mail this morning. i haven't opened them but i assume they have some type of lawsuit in them. >> aman, your thoughts on all of this hearing harry reid's
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comments, the sheriff's comments, the courts in the hill newspaper? what's your reaction? it seems nobody is letting this go. they maybe wanted to diffuse what was going on this weekend. >> i would say if i had a reaction not one of fear. which is one that they want to us have. i believe that we were backed by the people of this country and that we the people is where the strength is and it seems like harry reid has forgot that. and so, we're not afraid at all. we're ranching. sean, if you look i know you can't really look, look behind us out at that river there's kids out there playing and a week ago they would have been arrested for that. and we're enjoying this land again. we no longer have to worry about being pounced upon and our faces shoved in the ground and taken to jail because the people stood up. the people did what was right. and they got their freedom back. >> ammon, there's no doubt that
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so many people showed up to support you and i would argue a little bit the media coverage that myself and some other people have given to this case played a part in this because none of it made sense. bailey, let me bring you in here. i'm having a hard time wrapping my arms around the fact your family has been there since the 1800s, and they're trying to e eat you owe a million dollars. for a million dollars worth of food? >> i want to correct you. i guess cows can eat a lot of grass but i don't know if they eat a million dollars worth. >> cliven, is this also court fines and back fees and penalties and so on? >> it could be. i haven't received a bill for over 20 years. >> what are the letters you said you received that you didn't
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open? do you know who they're from? >> yes. i know. they got united states government bureau of land management, las vegas, nevada. all four of them was addressed that way. >> do you have any plans on opening them? >> well, yeah, i probably turn them over to somebody that can see what's in them. >> yeah. >> i haven't worried about them this morning. they are not the top thing on my agenda, that's for sure. >> i understand and frankly i thought there was a lack of proportion n proporti proportionality here by the government and the snipers surrounding your ranch and taking
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and we can speculate what's going on. but the fact is that the federal government has overstepped their bounds and taken private property. period. >> all right. one thing we're not going to give up following the story and if they plan any type of late night raid and people keep -- there are a number of people that are talking that that kind of -- those kind of discussions are taking place if anything comes to us we'll continue to follow the story. our audience is very interested in it. thank you for being with us. appreciate you being with us. coming up tonight who exactly is the man leading the controversial bureau of land management that is battling cliven bundy? we'll look at him and his background. we have an investigative report coming up. judge napolitano will debate. and tax day is here. we'll find out if people think the so-called rich are paying their fair share and then we'll
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welcome back. senator harry reid says the battle against cliven bundy is not over. questions are being raised about his connection to this entire controversy, especially when it comes to this man. neil kornze is a information reid aide that's been leading the bureau of land management as its principal deputy director since march of 2013. last week, surprise, surprise he was sworn in as director. joining me with much more and reid's close ties to most powerful guy at blm, valerie richardson.
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thanks for being with us. >> thank you, sean. >> a lot of things have been brought up regarding these ties. let's go through it. he worked for harry reid, worked at the bureau of land management, became its director. tell us what you know. >> reporter: he was with harry reid's office for eight years. he's only 35 years old so the bulk of his career was spent on harry reid's staff. he went to the blm three years ago, became a top person there. he was essentially running the bureau since last march. and he was confirmed by the senate committee in december and i will say there were some questions raised at that time. he's only 35 years old. not a long land management career. republicans raised eyebrows saying, is this guy really experienced enough? your normal blm director is a guy who has been in land management for 20, 30 years, a career guy.
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this guy if he's a career guy of anybody is senator harry reid's office. >> what about this march of 2014 photo breaking new ground for the solar farm which is about 35 miles away from the bundy ranch, harry reid is out there shoveling himself. didn't they have a problem there with the desert tortoise which all of this was predicated on that issue in the very beginning? >> reporter: well, that is the question that's being asked. the solar projects, two of them that they have been looking at in the vicinity of the ranch. now one is about 35 miles away, one is about 100 miles away. they are not on top of the bundy ranch. the bundy ranch they were asked or told basically to cutback their cattle herd in response to the desert tortoise and yet you do have these projects going out in other places in nevada and people want to know why you have one situation where it's okay to have development and another
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where it's not. >> all of a sudden the whole argument shifted from the bureau of land management. seems they got angry that cliven bundy wasn't compliant the way they wanted him to be. that's my take. thank you. appreciate it. my next guest says the battle between the feds and bundy family representative for americans who had enough of big government. here's judge andrew napolitano. judge, this issue is bringing a lot of emotion to the table here. does it have to do with the nsa, the irs, the lies about benghazi, spying on americans? lies about health care.
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>> they don't have to enforce it by stealing his private property. they can enforce it by filing a document in a courthouse which will enable them to collect the known which they are entitled when he dies or when his property otherwise passes to somebody else and they know that. >> and the former sheriff of grand county, arizona said i
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don't care it's to launch a raid without violence. i tend to agree with him based on the level where people's emotions are right now. judge, do you foresee the potential of a raid here? >> i hope not. i think the federal government's resources literally are without limit and they usually win these things and end up with an innocent person being kidnapped like elian gonzalez or people being killed like at waco, texas. >> i think you hit the nail on the head. they should go to a court and get an injunction. they should seize maybe assets later if, in fact, the ruling stands and i'm not sure if over time it would stand. judge, thank you. as always, appreciate it. here in studio with the other side of this, tamara holder. this may be something we agree on heavy handed tactics here against this rancher. you can have 200 agents and snipers surrounding a ranch and
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stealing the guy's cattle over a dispute over grass that the cattle are eating. >> sean, i think that we need to go through the facts. for your viewers and for the sake of educating you because obviously -- >> i say that to you every day. >> i'm learning from the best. >> go ahead. >> there was a '98 order. there was a '99 injunction. this man has said he does not believe in the federal government. this is the state of nevada. he took the federal government's land. he's trespassing. he's absolutely trespassing. >> let's assume everything you say is true. you'll send 200 agents for land that the government doesn't want. >> how do you know that? >> they don't want it. nay -- they never said they had a plan for a school or a road. >> can i go into your house, sean? you don't use this bedroom and i'm moving into your bedroom.
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>> you going to put snipers around his property? where is your sense of proportionality? >> you want to talk about harry reid. >> pedophiles and murderers zmup what judge issued this order? a judge that was appointed by president bush. this is not some democratic ploy. >> judge napolitano hit the nail right on the head. they can put an injunction, they can literally put a lien on his assets and property. snipers, agents around the perimeter causing what could be a late night raid where bundy has to defend himself. >> why? he's done what he's supposed to do and that's pay fines. >> a lot of grass for a million dollars. a trespasser.
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test test. welcome back. to welcome back. today is the day that most americans dread all year, it's tax day and money taken out of your pockets by the federal government is down right shock. in 2013 the individual income tax generated by the federal government topped $1.3 trillion and next year that number is expected to rise even more. we know how much the federal government wants your money. we have to ask ourselves where is that money going.
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this morning we sent aimsly earhart out to see what people think how much cash is being taken out of their wallets. take a look. >> do you think the rich are paying their fair share? >> no, probably not. >> i do not think the rich pay their fair share in taxes. >> are the rich paying their fair share? >> yeah. >> how much do you think they should be paying? >> same as the rest of us. >> they are paying 71% of our federal income tax. are they paying their fair share? >> after seeing that i'm assuming we are. yes, we are. >> do you think they're paying their fair share? >> somewhat. >> 71%, what's in blue here, that is all paid by the top 10% income earners. >> huh. okay. >> does that shock you? >> not really. >> you think they should be paying more? >> well, i don't know. >> you think they are paying their fair share? >> definitely not.
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>> does that change your mind now? >> at least they are paying -- apparently most of it. >> we think they do. they probably paying majority of the taxes in america. >> i think that a lot of people get blown away by how much money they can have and they will die and they will have all this money and i think there's a lot more important things in life than money. >> i want there to be incentives for people to aspire to wealth because that helps all of us to prosper. >> aimsly is here with much more. interesting. oh, they don't pay their fair share. did you change their minds? >> i think i did. several were shocked when they saw the statistics. we showed them that chart. >> the bottom 50% pay next to nothing. >> the top 10% of all earnings in our country are paying 71% of the federal income taxes. the top 10% are paying the majority. yet earning 45% of all the
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income and if you compare to it the bottom half, the bottom 50%, that are earners and making a paycheck, they are earning 12% of the income and only pay 2% of the federal income tax. >> i would like to move tax day to election day. a lot of people are finishing their taxes, sent it in, getting it post marked right now. >> you think people would vote differently? >> i think it would impact electio elections. >> everyone in the country has seen our taxes go up this year. the average person is seeing an increase of 1.8%. and i'm reading a lot of articles about this over the course of the last few days and many are saying this is as a result of the fiscal cliff debate. saying there's a bump in the top. the top income earners were paying 38% now they are paying 39.6%. so we're all feeling the burden of this. in 2014 this year the heritage tax expert curtis dubasis there were 13 different tax increase this year and six are attached to obamacare.
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>> i was going to say obamacare, a big part of it. great reporting. we'll see you tomorrow morning at 5:00 a.m. p.m. >> a dreary day out there. >> you got wet for the team. >> it's tax day. had to be raining. >> now earlier today co-founder of the tea party patriots helped demonstrate. she showed how unfair and unbalanced america's tax code is. here it is tax day once again. let's look at this chart here. we always hear they are paying their fair share. let's look. 71%, this is all the blue here. explain. >> so 71% of the taxes that are paid are paid by the income earners who earn 10% -- >> top 10% pay 71%. >> yes. >> you always here, wait a minute.
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they don't pay their fair share. top 10% pay all of this blue as a percentage which is -- let's go around again. around we go. there we are. go right around here. that's the top 10%. everything in between here. okay. now, then we have -- explain the second part. this is the red here. >> people who earn 10% to 50% of the income, they pay 27% of the taxes. and those who are in the bottom 50% -- >> this is what, the bottom 50% because you always say income inequality, pay your fair share. bottom 50% of wage earners pay this, i can almost fill it in in one line. there you go. that's what they pay. let's move on. one of the questions that always comes up the percentage of americans that pay no income tax. we're dealing with half the country that's paying zero and many getting government benefits. >> they are. sean, you know when we're looking at these charts and see this number and we look at the previous charts, i just keeping
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thinking of this. the government gets all of this tax money from so many people and yet they're still borrowing so much money and we have a $17 trillion debt. >> 90 trillion in unfunded liabilities. >> yes. >> what do you think the impact is, because barack obama when he was running for office said that george bush, $9 trillion in debt was irresponsible and unpatriotic. he will himself accumulate more debt than every other president before him combined. >> combined. he is continuing to spend that money. we have a congress that's continuing to spend that money. and they are not doing what is necessary to actually balance the budget. they want to balance the budget in ten years from now rather than addressing the problems right now. tea party patriots we support a simple plan to address this.
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schism simply reduce the government spending by one penny for every dollar. >> you and i support the same thing. one penny out of every dollar for every dollar the government spends, you do it for six years. you get to a balanced budget because the economy grows. great to see you. coming up next tax day flashback the white house don't want you to see. we'll explain why the president has failed to make good on his promise to get to the bottom of the irs targeting scandal and later there are breaking developments out of the ukraine tonight. are we on the verge of an all out war? don't forget set your dvr hannity the series we don't want to you miss an episode each week night 10:00 eastern right here on fox. ♪ because by the time old uncle sam gets through ♪ @e@8ñúñ÷@@
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east room and talked about the irs and the agency's illegal torgts -- targeting of conservatives. among other things, he vowed to get to the bottom of the scandal and needless to say, this is the flashback that the white house probably does not want you to see on this tax day. >> it's inexcusable and americans are right to be angry about it and i'm angry about it. i will not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency but especially in the irs. we're going to hold the responsible parties accountable. we will work with congress as it performs its oversight role. and our administration has to make sure that we are working hand-in-hand with congress to get this thing fixed. >> and here with much more fox news contributor deroy murdoch. good to see you. he sounded great. i'm angry. the american people should be angry. >> it was authentic and genuine
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and then realized oh, oh, we could have a significant political problem and that would be very inconvenient. i don't know what happened. six weeks later president obama said it's a phoney scandal. here's what i would ask. could we at least see the information that he was given that convinced him it was a phony scandal and then let us makeup our own minds. >> that's really well said. that was good. >> i think one of the things if we're trying to get to the bottom of the scandal the fbi would talk to the victims, what happened, give us your story. today i contacted american center for law and justice. have any of your victims been contacted? >> no. i have no idea if they are going through the motion.
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i've done a serious investigation. any kind of investigation or any kind of alleged crime you send in the authorities, you ask them what did you see or what happened. >> i bring up this analogy if my kids do something wrong okay admit it let's move on, it's over. when they lie to me we have a big problem. when you think about they first blame rogue agents in benghazi on a youtube video and spontaneous demonstration, lied about health care, lied about the nsa, a lot of lying going on. >> lois lerner who did the clumsy leak is probably responsible or at least knows a lot more than she's saying because she took fifth. americans are saying wait a
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minute the president was outraged enough to call a press conference in primetime and show genuine outrage but six weeks later he doesn't think there's any scandal and lois lerner then pleads the fifth and still there are no answers. >> no accountability. we're waiting to see if anybody gets fired. we have one resignation of the acting irs commissioner. he was on his way out. lois lerner took that long vacation and retired. >> they are talking about intimidating, silencing and harassing political opponents. >> lois lerner and i think the americans would have a case against her because you are not allowed when you work at the irs to give a private citizen -- a political opponent. the irs, the tax authority and military two most potent forms against people and the administration -- >> most intimidating force of the government. >> the administration bears some responsibility for the fact that this happened under their watch. now, it is true if it's a phoney scandal, then at least, could we see what president obama saw
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that convinced him. >> imagine john mccain won the election in 2008 and occupy movement popped up and they were trying to get 01 c 4 status and buried in paper work and can't do what they want to do. think about it from their perspective. those people are laughing at us. >> they are laughing. >> absolutely. they are laughing at us. >> you're coming back. dana is coming back. we'll go head-to-head which one has the cutest dog in america. my dog gracie, i think is a no brainer or jasper. >> it's jasper not like jasper. jasper. >> war in ukraine imminent tonight? we have breaking news on that developing story as hannity continues straight ahead. ♪ tax man takes all my dough copd includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis. spiriva is a once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that helps open my obstructed airways for a full 24 hours. spiriva helps me breathe easier. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powde
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welcome back to "hannity." heavy gunfire rang out in eastern ukraine when according to the nation's acting president army troops restored control of an airport who was occupied by pro-russian militia men. this escalation comes a day after the white house confirmed cia director john brennan traveled to kiev in recent days. so could an all out war be imminent and what's the role of the u.s. and what role should we be playing in this tense
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standoff? here is lieutenant general thomas mcinernie. i'm watching this and reminded what happened with crimea. putin is pushing, pushing. i believe he's behind this. what are your thoughts? >> you're spot on. he's using the same game plan he used in crimea. there are ten cities that are under siege or activity right now. they moved in. so i think it's not a question of when, it is if. it's already started. >> so what is the outcome? what should the role of the u.s. be here? >> i think the role of the u.s. should be, number one, let's provide nonlethal aid to the ukrainians. what does that mean? that means intelligence. it means infrared glasses so they can see at night. it means fuel, jet aviation fuel. body armor. this type of things. but i would provide them with lethal aid.
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25 mig 29s from our european allies and 50 t-72 tanks that our european allies still have. that means the european allies have to get involved, but we have to lead from in front. >> what do you think of this russian jet? now it's fairly common tactic. we do it to them, they do it to us. it's a cat and mouse game. the 15 or 19 passes over our u.s. war ship that's a level of hostility that i think we haven't seen in a long time and what should our reaction be to that? >> first of all, i think the president ought to feel offended when he and president putin are talking and you have this type of activity. he's absolutely trying to humiliate not only the u.s. but our nato allies. this is not a good sign. this means he's not interested in calming the waters. he's interested in continuing
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his aggressive actions against the ukraine. >> seems to me the white house, remember the president said that this was a sign of weakness with vladimir putin and i don't think vladimir putin is quite seeing it that way. >> he doesn't see it that way. he says appeasement breeds aggression. he understands that. our president doesn't. the appeasement that chamberlain showed before world war ii -- frankly, i think president obama will be ranked with chamberlain. >> thank you, general. dana perino and i go head-to-head.
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welcome back to "hannity." we've had an ongoing debate about who has the cutest -- and what did you want to say? >> most awesome. >> -- most awesome dog. i'm going to ask the viewers of this program to help end this argument. both our dogs are two. >> jasper is america's dog. one night on "red eye" we were taking about a -- talking about a person who was mad about paparazzi taking pictures of his dog. i would never be like this. bob could not wait to have him back on the show. >> jasper, let me congratulate
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you on your birthday. happy birthday. >> that's the video? you didn't say a professionally made video. >> see that dog. he was so focused. he's a focused type dog. really intense. and he's so cute, too. >> i'm a fan of jasper's. >> can i show one more picture? there's one more picture. he was on the beach this weekend. five fans photoshopped jasper as b baywatch. >> he didn't poop on the beach, did he? >> yeah, he did but he cleaned it up. >> i followed the rules and i did it on the iphone. this is my dog gracie. >> sit, sit. up.
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good girl. gracie, down. good girl, gracie. there's a little snack. good girl. gracie, sit. sit. that's a good girl. good gracie. shake. good girl, gracie. good shaking. gracie, down. hey. down. good girl. gracie, sit. good girl. here you go. that's a good girl. good girl. gracie, down. down, girl. >> yeah, she did. >> she's cute. if you're going to work in television, when you do an iphone video you have -- >> i don't know that. >> jasper and gracie, they're a
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lot of fun. they bring americans together. >> where do people vote? >> i think they vote on your website. >> is it on my website? >> i don't know. the truth is you know who has already won this contest. >> gracie. >> america's dog. >> you're stuffing the ballot box. let people decide. we report. they decide. >> it was very fun. >> it was fun. i am a fan of jasper too. tune in tomorrow night. donald trump joins me right here in studio for a very special interview. set your dvr so you never mess an episode of "hannity." thanks for being with us. we'll see you back here with gracie as the winner tomorrow night.
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