the square and they said yes and a couple of them popped on board and off they went. >> that's a cool story. >> hopefully they get to keep the video. it is a good easter story. thanks for joining us. america's news headquarters starts right now. and fox news alert. growing pressure for the white house on two fronts. i am sandra smith. and i am ed henry. and we just obtained a letter from republican darril issa. the letter said the documents they have already received show senior white house officials and the president a pore to be far more personally involved in a decision than the healthcare.gov. and this comes amid outrage and showing exirs official lois

lerner coordinated with the department of justice on prosecuting nonprofit groups. >> welcome, congressman, what i want to know specifically. you serve on the committee with darril issa. what do you think the documents will show? >> we requested from the department of health and human services and we found out that the white house had institutional interest in them and stuff was redacked. and that was uh-huh. this makes us look bad. and you think that the president and the senior services. and committee concerns that you raised. and we have suggested

information that showed early on that the white house was actively involved and we want to know who knew what when and why we didn't work to fix this better. >> and the reaction from the white house, there is nothing extraordinary about the fact that hss made redack. >> and so is this a case of the republicans saying the news got better with the president with 7 million seen ups and you want to go to the early part of this which was bad for him? >> no. some were made at the white house request. we want to want to know what the white house redacked and why. raising a lot of the explosive

allegations. what do you think this proves? >> it certainly proves, i think that the evidence will be to show it. it didn't end with lois lerner, it was a big deal for a midlevel irs employee to be involved in. we want to know how the decision- making process happen and how to stop it from happening again. we don't want the ears to be political. it is bad enough that they took all of the tax money. nlois lerner will be held in contempt of congress. where does that stand right now? >> they voted to hold her in contempt because she waived her fifth amendment right. >> she made allegations and didn't give us an opportunity to question. she waived them. it will be probably be before the entire house in a couple of

weeks. >> that full vote could come after the eastern recess and happy holidays to you. >> and happy easter, ed. >> fox news alert. >> violence in ukraine. and three russian protestors killed more than a dozen wounded in the national guard bias less than 40 miles from the russian border and comes in a meeting in geneva and reaching a new way to calm tensions there. hi, sandra. right now the words sound good and like what needs to be done. and it seems like violence today and another story and whether it will all play out and resonate on southeastern ukraine. and u.s. secretary of state john

kerry said all sides russia and ukraine. it is difficult to get them to sit at one table together. the u.s. and european union came up with a rod map to try to defuse the tension. all illegally compiled buildings. and a international group will make sure it happens. and they say all illegal weapons must be put aside and mo people who hand in weapons and leave occupied weapons will be given amnesty the only ones will be the police and army and services and all must be addressed and secretary of state john kerry said they have promised to go to extraordinary lengths to make sure it is taken into account as

reforms and constitutions are put together. >> the parties agreed today that all sides must refrain from the use of violence and intimidation and provocative actions and we strongly condemn and rejected all expressions of extremism and racism and religious intollerance including anti- semitism. >> secretary kerry said that there were instances in parts of ukraine where jews had been asked to identify themselves. he didn't know if this was something that was coming from the russian side or the ukranian side or's pro provocation to make either side look hateful. it is absolutely grotesque. russian president vladimar putin said russians feel like pi rias

and people are not respected now. and whether they are real or hyped up, the point is, people are sensitive to the part of the road map that is laid out and segcant. they are all words on paper. and i think it appears that all sides are looking for a way out of this now. amy kellog with the latest. russian president vladimar putten admitted those were indeed russian troops in crimea in russia's recent take over and stressed a historical claim that russia has to eastern ukraine and calling it new russia joining us is the fox military analyst. >> thank you for joaning us. >> glad to be here. >> what do you make of vladimar

putin that the russian soldiers secretly invaded crimea. >> he had a choice. he had some of them killed and everyone knows who they are. they are special operation forces working under the military command and direction from putin and his innercircle. his revelation is not much of anything really. >> and we heard secretary of state john kerry talking tough. and he's warned of consequences and the situation for months now. and do we have reason to believe today that the u.s. may really act on these words? . to date we haven't as you made note of in the introduction. and going all the way back to crimea. and made reference of warnings of dire consequences and except for restricting the russian

elites in terms of their finances and a russian bank, we haven't done anything except rhetoric. that policy encouraged putin isolation. and what is taking place is a step in the right direction. and really issue is 40 to 50 this happened troops sitting on the board and in the russian division and all of the supporting weapons. that is the main issue. this is been about from the start since yanukovych fled. this is putin's desire to move the new government in kiev away from europe and nato in a political agreement with him and cooperation with him. intimidation is the process he's using with the threat of

invasion. and i think he will keep it up until he achieves the end. does putin not believe that the u.s. will not act. >> he's had our number for sometime. and anybody looking at. this you don't have to be a russian expert or pone pene expert dealing with international affairs to understand what is taking place here. we haven't responded and the kiev government is moving in his direction because of the intimidation. and he feels no threat from the united states or europe. the battle over immigration reform getting red hot and's call between the president and top house republican grows down

right explosive and may reveal how far apart the two sides are. >> and cell phone video. and a fire truck crashed in a restaurant and pinging a man and wait until you hear about the collision. >> it makes a 2,000 mile trek from montana to a place we all know. and where it is after years of one family stumbling we didn't think it was an archaeologist and palinatologist and we didn't think we could get anyone to come and look.

>> two fire trucks, heading to fight the same fire in los angeles collide. one of them slammed in a restaurant and more than a dozen people werehurt.

cell phone video captured the scene. the man on the bottom of the screen penned by the truck. he was standing on the street when he was hit. both trucks were responding to a house fire. a now strategy on iligration house democrats target the republicans and trying to force a vote on the reform. and this was a phone call. and competing conversations about what really happen yesterday. and the president put out this statement saying that republicans in the house repeatedly failed to take action and taking the status quo over a broken immigration reform. and working to fix the immigration. and house republicans voted in

favor of the measures and the president called me hours after he issued a partisan statement. and he indicated no sincere desire to work together. president obama has not learned how to work with congress to get things done. the white house tells us actually the president wished him happy pass over. is it that bad they can't wish each other a happy holiday. >> other than that they are on the same page on immigration reform. who knows what the truth is, whether the obama version which he called to wish happy pass over and the cantor said imaggression and he said happy pass over and happy eastern. it is unlikely there will be any immigration reformat all passed by the congress before it goes

out of session in the end of the year. >> and house democrats are thinking about targeting the house republicans and districts back home and try to pen them down and force a vote and does that not also lead conservatives to get less likely a deal. and remember how it all started back in 2012, obama beat romney among hispanic voters by 44 points and going 21 percent to 27 percent. and republicans afterwards who said that the party has to do something to roach out to hispanics and a big move in the senate. the reason it came out yesterday was the first introduction of the reform plan that they passed and marco rubio was involved and it was seen as a bipartisan effort on immigration reform and

republicans on get on the right side with hispanic voters and it has died in the house and you are seeing the political back and forth as a result on all of this. and bottom line it doesn't look like any immigration reform in districts. and in the 40 districts it could hurt republicans seeking reelection. >> i am glad you talked about mark co rubio and self identified republican voters and he is in the bottom of the eighth percent and look at the top. christie 15 percent and jeb bush 14 percent. and rand paul 14 percent and paul ryan nine percent and mark co rubio eight percent. and this is a big picture here. does this suggest that chris christie weathered the early scandal? >> in terms of rubio. there is not any question. he was in the top tier before

the whole immigration reform and he hurt himself with conservatives. whether he was right or wrong on the policy. but in terms of the politics no question he will take a hit. and he will take an aggressive stance on foreign policy to get on the right side of conservatives. interesting that christie does well. you are releasing name recognition. names in the top tier. christie and bush and ryan. and paul, you know, they are the best known names and some of the other names further down on the list. like scott walker or governors, i think that they are not known by many people. it is name recognition and the polls are not going to get serious or tell us much how the race is going to go until we see who is in or out and they preponderate their platforms. >> eastern sunday, who will be on the show? >> we'll talk about eastern

subpoena and the message of pope francis and talk to the arch bishop. and we'll have the latest on ukraine, obviously changing developments with the supposed deal out of againeva and see whether the situation is easing up or like a hair-trigger on fox news sunday. >> see you in washington next week. >> thank you, ed. >> and the president hosts a big health care meeting in the white house days after the touting of the obama care roll numbers. and there is much uncertainty in the insurance market. >> and this mother keeping cool in the check out line while a baby bakes in the car. >> families of victims in the sinking of a ferry now demanding answers after survivors were told not to evacuate at the first signs was trouble.

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a mother is facing charges today for leaving a 14 month old baby in a blazing hot suv while she went shopping. surveillance cameras showed the woman wandering around the store for a hour while temperatures in the suv to 120 degrees. the only time the woman is rushed is when she is escorted out of the store with the police. she was charged with felony child abuse. the boywas treated and released to his father.

>> president sending in military aid to south korea. a ferryboat carrying high school students sank off of the coast yesterday. rescue operations are done today. do i havers trying to find anybody still trapped inside. the crew delayed giving evacuation orders or may not have given them at all. >> yes. atrocious weather conditions hampering the rescue effort in the last hour or so they are ham aring on the hull trying to hear if anyone is still inside. they are trying to search the ship's compartments and struggled against poor visibility and strong currents and attempted to pump oxygen in the vesz elt.

and they will bring in kraens to try to right the ship. at least some of the passengers were passengers from one high school near seoul. it was traveling overnight to the southern resort. the ship flipped over and leaving only a part of the hull. it is not clearly what caused it to cap size. the some survivors were ordered to stay still for 30 or 40 minutes. some students showed on a video they made. people not getting off of the vere ferry. a crew member said no evacuation order was begin by the captain. he was one of the survivors and

he apologized but facing a criminal investigation. >> david poiper thank you. >> and our next guest was at the white house. and why the health care law may destroy the insurance market. >> is the we'll debate the strategy next. >> and snow day at the beach and where the storms are wreaking havoc on the highways. @e@8ñú

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>> and it is a nice day. and president obama meeting with health insurance executives and state commissioners today. >> new obama numbers are expected after the final end to enrollment. and our next guest was in the meeting with the president and worried that there is too much uncertainty. and enjoying now the lieutenant governor and the commissioner of the ohio department of insurance. welcome. i want to start by asking you. i know you are not a fan of the health care law. i am a news man. what was the message to the critics. >> thank you for fitting ine me in today. they look to partner with states and work and provide flexibility. unfortunately our experience in the past where those words are spoken, seldom get the

flexibility for the ohio consumers. >> it was problems in the early days and sign ups are looking up and we'll get into phase and work together? were there any specifics for the viewers to understand what is next in all of this. >> we talked about 2015. and talked about the problems initially with the website and the president's belief that parts of it are fixed and should be better in the next enrollment period. we had an opportunity to express concerns with the website and proposed regulations that are issued and problematic for state regulators. and obviously from an ohio perspective we continue to be concerned about the marketplace. and we had a competitive marketplace and gave them low rates and we are seeing that change. we are concerned about the changes that come out of

washington and delays that continue to pass down to us. and it makes it difficult for us as a regulator and insurance companies and make the decisions that are best for them. >> i was in the rose garden when the president bid adieu. >> we lost the first opening corner with healthcare.gov. but under kathleen's leadership. her team at hss turned the corner, got it fixed and got the job done and the final score speaks for itself. >> he went on to stay lieutenant governor, that there were seven and half million sign ups? >> i think that the numbers are still concerning to us. we still don't know how many of

those signed up actually paid the premium. you have to pay the premium to be enrolled for health insurance. and we don't know how many of those signed up were previously uninsured. it is a law to help the uninsured in the country. and in ohio, for example. last numbers we got were 79,000 people enrolled in the federal marketplace and federal exchange in ohio. and we feel like those numbers are not successful as what we may have heard in the last clip from the president. >> 30 seconds and there are speculation and we may hear details about the beginning of enrollment and numbers and more than seven and half million to sign up. et cetera. and did the president indicate now information is coming out?

>> no, he didn't. and the numbers that any of them used whether it is the president or secretary sebelius continued to use the old numbers. we didn't get inkling or foresight on the numbers this afternoon. >> we appreciate you going to the white house and washington bureau and giving us the scoop. >> republicans setting the strategy ahead of the midterm and first on the list of issues to attack is obama care. is this a good approach. joining us is richard faller. and chris wilson. chris, i will start with you. persistent of the health care law, is that the winning strategy for the republicans? >> well, every number that comes out shoes a majority of the americans are against and don't

support it and 8 and 10 say it is important on how they cast their vote. and it will cause them to vote against. it by every relevant statistic to apply to the november elections it is an important issue. i would encourage democrats to compain on all of the masses of obama care and with president obama and invite him in the states. >> i sensed a sarcasm there. are there successes to taught about obama care as we stand today. >> and all of the individuals with health care and young people back on the health care of the parents. i know the statistics. and the truth, what the americans are looking for is solutions and the republican strategy in 2012.

and we are not that guy. and that doesn't win elections. >> chris, to his point, you know, the republicans while they are critizing the law, they are not providing a solution, would you agree? >> it is difficult to mroifd solution without control of the government. when the republicans take over the senate and presidency back, you will see solutions and you can introduce all of the bills, but harry reid shoots them down and making sure they don't come up for a vote. republicans are not in a position to do anything. repealing will continue. >> richard. >> they repealed it 55 different times and not one solution. >> that's not true. that's absolutely not true. >> give me one. >> eric cantor are presented and billy jinda l.

chris, you have it. go ahead. >> in terms of fixing i don't know it is fixable. are these people who seen up for health care, is it because they didn't have health care before or health care plans cancelled. you have to stop the cancellations because of obama care. these are the solutions that republicans are trying to produce. >> and richard, we agree that the roll out of the law was not smooth. we have seen poll after poll that showed more people are not happy than those that are happy. and they are incent vised to vote are those not happy with the law, how do you combat that? >> i think there is a lot of people who lost health care insurance and uncertainty. any kind of change will be having uncertainty.

democrats have to talk about the good of the law and go after those republican governors that chose not to embrace the law. and for example, there are millions of floridians that can not get coverage because of the gap. it is about talking about solution is this time for it to voters. i don't think so. you have obama going from the state. and texas. and that is the challenge you have here. and democrats are running so far away from this. and i would suggest that people signing up are all because of coverage taken away from them.

and that is what the president promised wouldn't happen. and they refuse to campaign with him. richard. i am going to have to let chris. thank you. good stuff. >> and that is the islamic cleric known as dr. hook. he is accused of setting up terrorist training camps. and they are live outside of the courthouse. what are you hearing there? >> as you said, opening statements took place this morning and prosecutions wasted no time describing the defendant as not just a creature of religion but a trainer of terrorist and the prosecution went on to say that a bu hamza globally exported violence and

terror. the ones that americans are familiar with. 1999, he sent followers in oregon to set up a terrorist training camp. it was monitoring by the authorities at the time. and never became fully operational. and another charge dating back to 1998. he gave assistance to terrorist in yemen and kidnapped 16 tourist. by the time it was over and the military intervened and four hostages died. and he faces life in prison. and as for the defense. they admit their client made inflammatory statements in the the past. repeatedly sloe so. that say he never set foot in the u.s. soil until he was extradited to face trial. they say he made a lot of fiery remarks and rhetoric and that

will be used by the prosecution in the trial. but the defense said many of those statements date back before 9/11 and much of it is out of context. and then the defense made a surprising comparison. they compared their client to nelson man dell. and say that he was an icon and went on to say george washington was a rebel and he now, too, is an icon. and we expect during the trial, the defendant will attack the stand and testify on his own behalf. >> comparisons to george washington and nelson mandela. >> and one city is draining 38 million gallons of water from the resivor.

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president obama got off of the vote with angle camerkel and trying to get in the bottom of the crisis in ukraine. the crisis is deepening and jay carner will brief reporters. and so people should stay close to fox. developments keep on coming. >> we know that they have a agreement on deescalation. >> scientist in the smithsonian natural museum of history in washington unpacking one of the compete t- rex skeletons in all of the world. we have the director of the museum of natural history. congratulations to you and the smith soppian. and remarkable story of how the dinosaur was found? >> it is the most iconic down saur. we are delighted to bring it to washington d.c.

we got it here two days ago. >> how do youine transport a 66 million-year-old 2,000 miles. and how do you pack a dinosaur. >> you talk the bones and wrap in foam and create ands fed- ex, to washington d.c. >> what makes this down saur so spectacular. >> the teeth alone are size of bananas. >> they are bone crashing. and this is found in known 88 by a montana rancher while they were fishing. she found a arm bone and realized it was an arm bone of a full t- rex skeleton. >> this is a win for smithsonian. you are getting it on lon from

the u.s. army corps and engineers. and you wanted sue that went to chicago. and that was paid for at a steep cost. >> it is 50 it will be on display on the national mall. we see about 7 million people a year. 350 million people will see this skeleton over the next 50 years. >> and it's free, right? >> it's a fabulous deal. it's a shared loan between the u.s. army corps and the smithsonian institution. >> dr. kirk johnson, thank you for joining us on that. >> my pleasure, thanks so much. >> spectacular. >> that's one you don't forget. >> unbelievable. these guys setting off a major operation. the reason one city is now draining an entire reservoir. >> i'm bummed out. it's horrible and it kind of disgusts me. >> this is not a game. this is your drinking water. this is finished drinking water. it's treated. we don't do anything additional

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officials in portland, oregon, are getting ready to drain 38 million gallons of water from a city reservoir where police caught a man relieving himself into the city's clean water supply. not so clean now, dan springer, live with the details from seattle. >> yeah, pretty gross, ed. the big drain, we're told, has begun. they'll take four to six days to do it because they don't want to back up the sewer system. it's all because a 19-year-old man was caught urinating in the mt. tabor reservoir. the video shows another man climbing over the iron fence and getting into the water. all three men were caught on tape and quickly arrested and cited for trespassing.

the 19-year-old was ticketed for public urination and could face other charges due to the cost of the clean-up. a water sample is being analyzed. while the risk to public health is said to be almost nonexistence, the portland water bureau decided to flush all 38 million gallons of water and clean the reservoir. >> the reason is because my commitment to our customers is we're not going to deliver them water that we know has been contaminated, even if it's a little tiny bit. >> and the other reason is this is a drop in the bucket for the water bureau. they have 17 billion gallons of water sitting behind dams in that watershed. so this will have no impact on rate payers. but it points out the security problem this water has already been treated and goes from the reservoir directly to homes. uncovered reservoirs like this are being phased out because

birds and other animals usually do the contaminating. this year, it wtime, it was a 1 knucklehead. >> thank you for not re-enacting that video. you're no knucklehead. >> oh, geez. come on, ed. down to the gutter for that one. >> i think everyone's worst nightmare, right? . thank you, dan. pieces of american history up for grabs tonight. >> how you could get your hands on the gun of america's famous lawman, wyatt erp used in the o.k. shootout.

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