>> not bad if you can get it. >> that's right. coming up tomorrow on the show, we got governor mike huckabee, plus irs tax refund 101. how to travel on your refund with courtney scott from travelocity. >> you hate that interview, don't you? you love courtney. bill: good morning. a fox news alert. a new roadblock in the ukraine crisis. pro-russian separatists refuse to honor an agreement that was hammered out in geneva. i'm bill hemmer. >> the deal calling for the militants to disarm where they have set up camp. bill: the protesters show no sign of leaving. they say the on way they leave is if the government in kiev leaves first.

leland vittert, the reality on the ground is what? >> reporter: bill, that optimism you heard from president obama certainly has not made it way to eastern ukraine. i just got back from talking to a number of the separatists who control the regional parliament building. they say they would rather fight and die than give up what they have gotten. the pro-rurg-russian separatist leader say the president doesn't speak for them. they want a referendum and they would like the possibility of having their own state over here. and the ukrainian government out of kiev is not interested in that at all. they are saying if eastern ukraine is going to remain part of ukraine they have to fight the separatists or the russian

government, they are willing to do it. bill: what do the pro-russians hope will happen there? >> reporter: not on what do the pro-russians hope. but what do the russians hope to happen. they had tens of thousands of troops store the borders of ukraine. the said he's willing to use military force but did not say yes was willing to do so. the pro-regs forces some say are led by th -- led by the russian intelligence unit. they don't want to roll over and give this part of their country to russia. and at the same time they don't want to launch an attack against the pro-russian separatists.

this could fall off into a civil war. bill: others are saying they are not optimistic. leeland vittert, donetsk, ukraine. >> reporter: what officials are calling the worst disaster to hit everest. an avalanche kill at least 12. >> reporter: this avalanche began on a main route up mount everest early friday morning. the victims so far 12 dead, bodies pulled from the snow and ice. those wer we sherpa guide who usually set up base camp's for the foreign climbers. he's making a phone call from 20,000 feet so the audio is not

great but it does give a flavor of the chaos after the situation of this tragedy. here is jeff brown. >> up here on base camp' -- injured and several lost. so far they have flown down over 13 bodies in body bags. >> reporter: that witness at the scene jeff brown said he saw 13 body bags. so the number up isly 12 is likely to go up. these are the sherpa guide. also rescuers on foot to try to find some of the missing. >> reporter: there has been a lot of concern about crowding on the mountain in recent years. >> reporter: the government has tried to manage the flow.

but they are dependent on the tourism income from these two climbing months of april and may. they gave out more permits this year than last year. it's a balancing act. and it's the sherpas who bear the brunt of the danger. they are the first ones up the mountain paving the way for the foreign guests. bill: we are watching the monitor from seoul *, south korea. this is what we understand today on that story. they are asking for an arrest warrant for the captain of the ferry that sank this week killing at least 28 people. that number could go sharply higher. the investigation focusing on a sharp term the ship took before

it began listing to one side. there are varying reports on what was happening on board that ship at the time it was going under. the coast guard is on the scene in case there are survivors trapped in that cold water. there are 270 missing. most of the 270 high school student from the same school. >> reporter: a up s. navy robotics submarine is on its fifth mission to find that malaysian airplane. it's mapping the floor of the indian ocean searching for the black boxes. officials say they have found nothing yet. 11 planes and 12 ships are spread across 20,000 miles of ocean looking for any evidence of flight 370. it vanished march 8 with 239

people on board. bill: the white house released even romment numbers on obamacare. here is the president on that. >> we now know that the number of americans who have signed up for private understand in the marketplaces has grown to 8 million people. 35% of people who enrolled through the federal marketplace are under the age of 35. bill: there was a lot of information that did not go public. what else did we learn. >> reporter: we heard the president say the healthcare law is working and he touted those numbers. he said republicans who continue to try to repeal the law are wasting their time. they need to move on, focus on jobs and the economy and look forward toward the mid-term

elections. he said democrats should forcefully defend and embrace the law. >> i don't think we should apologize for it or be defensive about it. i think there is a strong good life story to tell. >> reporter: he cite sized the dozens of states that didn't accept and expand medicaid, and those states say they simply couldn't afford it. bill: there are a number of critics who say the numbers don't tell the whole story. >> we have conscious at republican who say the law isn't working. we also heard from state insurance commissioners who said what about the 6 million americans who received cancellation notices in the mail because their plans didn't comply with the affordable care snact and commissioners say they remain sceptical about the young folks who the president said signed up. >> we don't know how many of those who signed up paid the

premium. you have to pay the premium to be enrolled in health insurance and we don't in how many of those who signed up were previously uninsured. >> some of those state regulators say all the changes thed a membership straition has made has made the law confusing and difficult to enforce. >> reporter: we have brand-new numbers on the irs targeting controversy. who do americans think is behind the scandal? bill: millions of americans in danger of credit card fraud. details on another security breach. this is a big one. >> reporter: frantic calls to 911 after a deadly collision between a fedex truck and a bus filled with student. >> there are 43 people --

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was responsible. 9% tell me there is a mystery for most folks still on this story. how do you see it? >> something is unusually rocky in washington. the reality is americans have understandably very low expectations for good governance and honesty. they have been trained well over successive generations. it's possible for people to say i believe the white house was responsible for this. i believe the president's enemies were deliberately targeted for the president to win the elect. but that's not what you see here. when you get to 67% of americans saying i want congress to keep going. >> this is what they said about how you trace this thing back.

what he asked whether the white house intentionally targeted the irs. targeted conservatives groups. almost 50% said yes. that group is suspicious. >> but what i'm saying is even more than that group are suspicious. you could get that result pretty much right now if you asked the question of anything that was good or bad about the white house and obama and the irs. that could reflect lot of partisan attitude. when you see that super majority of people who want the situation to continue. that says the president and his longstanding effort -- saying there is not a smidgen of corruption. nothing here as failed. >> let me get back to the congressional issue. super bowl sunday, watch. >> reporter: you are saying there is no corruption there at all. >> that's not what i'm saying. >> reporter: you are saying no

corruption. none? >> there were some bone headed decisions. >> reporter: no mass corruption in. >> not en masse corruption, not even a smidgen of corruption. bill: 72 per se no. >> this is not super popular agency. since the days of jesus people have been sceptical of tax collectors and the irs, don't forget is the enforcement agency for obamacare, that does not make that agency more popular. $so for the president to stay that invites voters. it invites them to think that something is amiss rather than allaying their fears. especially given his low credibility on honesty questions. bill: should congress continue

to investigate? 62 per se yes. for them and how they get their questions answered. how and when do they get to the bottom of this? >> very off' too late. in washington, the book is written and eventually someone says eventually what everyone was saying was true. but there is a beltway belief we always want the new entertainment. what's the spin. we get bored when darrell issa is out with another hearing. but those incremental things especially in a case like this where we had allegations of collus agencies that involved lois lerner you see how things can creep to a larger issue and maybe the dam breaks. bill: you think we are just getting warmed up? >> for sure. the question is how long will it

take to get hot. >> reporter: one major american city dealing with deadly wave of violence. but is the top cop there cooking the books to make it look as if there is less crime? bill: a lot of problems in chicago. an arrest after a home invader is found hovering over a child in a crib. you've got your family asleep. you don't feel safe. [ shirley ] edwa jones. this is shirley eaking. how may i help you? oh hey, neill, how areou? how was the trip? [ male announcer ] with nearly 7 million investors... [ shirle] he's right here. hold on one sec. [ malennouncer ] ...you'd expect us to have a highly skilled call center. kevin, neill holley's on line one. ok, great. [ male announcer ] and we do.

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police tracked him down thanks to surveillance video. arthel: a new wave of deadly violence. while leaders are dealing with gun-toting gangs, the city's top cop is accused of cook the books to make crime statistics appear lower than they really are. >> reporter: it's been another violent night in the city of chicago. a 12-year-old boy was shot and another 7 shot around the city. now doubts about whether they have been honest about what's been done thus far. 3 6 -- 36 shootings as chicago

magazine publishes an investigation claiming city leaders manipulated crime statistics to create the appearance of a rapidly decreasing rate of crime. >> reporter: the mayor and mccarthy are public servants and we deserve in return truth from them. >> reporter: cops claim the report is false. >> i'm troubled by it because it hurts our credibility while trying to build credibility. it's real i troubling. >> reporter: the fbi arrived in chicago and spoke of the 100 agents dedicated to the playing of violent crime. >> it's an enormously difficult challenges specially in a communities with embedded gang activity. arresting is part of the challenge. but it's so much more than that.

>> reporter: september mccarthy continues to insist what are needed are stronger gun laws, and truth in sentencing. if someone who is sentenced to five years does five years. arthel: here comes the summer heat. >> i think the folks in chicago would agree we have been covering this for too long. the crisis escalates in ukraine. >> reporter: if you show weakness in your life, evil people will take advantage. that will happen. but there is a difference between weakness and restraint and therein lights the real story of president obama's foreign policy. bill: is the tentative deal in place enough to calm things down? we'll take a measure our own response. >> reporter: chaos on a california highway. newly released 911 calls and a

fiery crash that killed 10 people. >> it explode. whatever is on the freeway is on fire. now i hearsay remembers.

arthel: secretary of state john kerry and other diplomats ending talks in geneva with a new

agreement. it ease pressure on president vladimir putin and european nations depending on russia for energy. joining us now tyler harbor who campaigned with coalition forces in ukraine. no more additional economic sanctions for now. will this be effective? will it make a difference? >> this agreement is pointless. it's not even worth the paper it's printed on. the words americans love to fight, americans have always gone to the aid of countries that the russians have targeted for expansion. and what putin is doing in ukraine is nothing more than new russian expansion and we have again taken this w portion os mentality that we are afraid to make a decision and stand up for a country that is literally being taken over city by city by city every single hour and we

say don't do that, putin, don't do that, and he does it anyway. even barack obama says we hope putin will follow this agreement but this past performance suggests otherwise. arthel: if you talked to the people in ukraine what would they say would be a good, effective end for this crisis and some sort of solution? >> they need stability and they need an election. the east is upset that basically all of the representatives that were in the congress or the parliament are no longer there. so necessity no longer have a voice in kiev. so we need to hold an election immediately. the west needs to bring in aid to push the russians out of the cities. and to believe that the russian man doze is going to because of the geneva aagreement is going to up and leave because they are

just tired of being in ukraine is kind of silly. what we are looking at is another egyptian situation where we are going to wait it out so long and after the fact say it was a military coup. but now it's too late to do anything about it. >> you said you think the u.s. should provide lethal aid to the ukrainian military there. how quickly are we talking about and how much power are we talking about? >> i'm not a military expert when it comes to what exactly is needed so i'll stop before i say what they need. but i would say is that the ukrainian army is no match for the russian armed forces, the man doughs and we need to assess what we can give them more so than what our government has currently agreed to give them which is helmets and sleeping bags. i don't think they need helmets and sleeping bags. they probably need arms and ammunition and tactical support.

arthel: let me jump in, though, tyler. when you talk about lethal aid, you know, some are saying that would definitely incite war. what's your take on that? >> it won't incite war. it will push russia back to their current position. we have given up crimea and. >> number of locations that are strategic. we cannot let the rest of eastern ukraine or all of ukraine be swallowed up to this soviet precold war position. arthel: you need to have an election, and putin is easing back on this. he's snieg, go ahead and let the election happen. at first he was saying hold off. but you say the people want to have an elect. you want to have a say, they want to have a say who is in power and leading their country

and making decisions on their behalf. >> basically putin said go ahead and have an election. he knowed at this point his manned ohs control so much of ukraine the elections would occur the way they did in cry me a where the people to vote to secede from ukraine because they are under so much economic pressure and military pressure russia. we are the on ones that can stop russia from expanding. arthel: let's go back 10 years ago. the orange revolution. you know a lot about that. 2 months there. people fighting for similar issues. we are talking about democratic freedom, 2004, november, eing in january. what's different today, though. anything? >> i mean what's different today is russian influence. er one knows it's the worst

department secret that viktor yanukovych was a russian puppet. he stopped the european agreement that would have brought millions in economic influence into ukraine. russia did not want that. they wanted to weaken ukraine. in terms of what's going on now, the orange revolution, this is not a revolution, this is retaking ukraine and until we realize that and until we start acting like that. we can sign every agreement putin wants to sign. we know he's not going to do anything except continue to take over ukraine. arthel: thank you very much. i appreciate your perspective this morning. bill: a bit of breaking news in boston, massachusetts. m.i.t., massachusetts institute of the technology.

a memorial service just getting underway moment ago. sean collier was the police officer allegedly gunned down by the tsarnaev brothers. collier came across them, apparently stopping them along a roadside and he paid for that stop with his life. he was young but it was his life ambition to be a police officer. he achieved that at m.i.t. one of six children being remembered. so much of the attention and rightfully show went to the victims of the marathon. they will be remembered again as they were this past week on monday when boston comes out to run again. we'll be there live to see how things go this year. california highway patrol releasing frantic 911 calls froa fedex truck and the bus

containing high school students. will carr is live in l.a. on this. >> reporter: bill, you are about to harper just how chaotic and scary the immediate aftermath of this crash was. this happened last thursday on i5 in northern california when the fedex truck barreled across the median and crashed head on into the bus filled with high school student on their way to visit humboldt college. 10 people died including 3 student. and the fedex driver and the tour bus driver. listen to one panicked student describe the crash to a dispatcher.

>> reporter: five students were killed. dozens more escaped. they kicked out the windows in the bus and jumped out and got on to the surrounding interstate seconds before the bus explode. bill: there is confusion what happened moment before the fire broke out. what is the latest as we understand it on the investigation? >> an investigators say they are not speculating on what caused this crash. what they are doing is trying recreate the crash with the exact same vehicle that are just like the fedex truck and the bus. they also say they are going to continue to interview witnesses. they expect for their final report to come out sometime in the next 3-6 months. as for the victims they finished the autopsies. they say they plan to i.d. the remaining two sometime in the coming day.

arthel: the prr trying to stop any talk of repealing obamacare. he says the debate is over. bill where new developments over the controversy over the smells coming from a hot sauce factory.

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they called the fumes a public nuisance and gave the company 90 days to confine them. now the san fernando valley is saying they will welcome them with open arms. >> the debate is and should be over. the affordable care act is work and i know the american people don't want to spend the next two years fighting the battles of the last five years. it's time top restore our promise of economic opportunity not just for a few but for all. bill: the president says 8 million have signed up for obamacare and a third of them are under 35. that's what the president says.

ladies, good morning to both of you. you could move on but then is a sticky thing called an election come november. what did you think of the remark? >> i understand the president is a busy guy and didn't have time to fill in all the asterisks for these numbers so luckily i have them with me today. the 35% under 35 he inflated that figure quite a bit by adding all the children on their parents' plan. that's not the operative number we need to worry about. it's the 18-34-year-olds, which is 12% the flesh hold they wanted and will be problematic for the cost of these plans. 50-plus% who are unhappy with the law. when you poll the american

people perhaps they don't think the debate is both alley over. then we don't know how many people have paid. some 20% have not. and the fact that we don't know who was previously uninsured among this group. some outside surveys suggested it's only a third or 20% who were previously uninsured. bill: 20% of the 8 million have not paid? >> that's what outside surveys suggest. it's different in different states. bill: you as a republican, you are not moving on. >> i'm not moving on until the number of dissatisfied americans gets way below 50%. it's not anywhere near. bill: he says move on. doesn't look like they will, jessica, where are we? >> i think in ticket many going to be a key issue for the mid-terms in the sense democrats need to be on the offense on this issue.

they need to stop being on the defense. they need to talk about what matters their constituents and moderate across this country. what they are dealing with is what they have in their day to day lives. they are dealing with the economy and jobs, they need to focus on infrastructure. bill: jessica back to the critical point. you say the democrats should be on offense. can they win on this issue regardless of whether they go on offense or not? >> they can as long as they continue to focus on economic factors and how healthcare is an economic factor. one of the reasons we have aca right now is because it will overall help the economy, it will help our uninsured, it will help employers going forward. it's a long term plan. but we have to folk ounce november or they will be in deep trouble. bill: folks have been bike that door for 5, 6 years.

it's the slowest recovery ... >> the president says whatever i want passed is an economic problem solver. that's not the case if you look at the cbo's numbers on obamacare. employees with part-time work. these are serious problems. it's not making the people's economic situations better. i think the proof is in the pudding when you look at democrats out there and what they are campaigning on. there is a reason for it. >> reporter: democrats argue you throw out all these arguments against the wall and nothing is sticking. >> i don't think that's the case if you look at polling. it remains unpopular. they always say when we get to 2014, before when the status quo was so terrible, 85-90% of

people were satisfied with their insurance. so i think we still have a debate on our hands. >> you can continue to focus on the poll bug i'm talking to people and con city went. >> polling is people and they are real stories. >> polls are out on both sides. and what needs to happen with the hughes of representatives before we get into the mid-terms is focus on listening to people. getting out there talking, hearing their stories, they are focused on the price of gas, the price of milk. and that's what these elections will be about. if republicans can't get past dealing with first are we going get to $million, now we are at 8 million. if we stop focusing on little things -- then republicans will be in trouble. >> if you are unwilling to measure whether the law is working for people you are ignoring people's concerns.

when harry reid called every single story of everyone negatively affect bid this law, then he is ignoring real people. i don't want to do that. i want to measure what is working. bill: jessica, last word. >> i think both side need to make sure they are focusing on the real issues that will be affecting people. yes, it's healthcare and everything related to the economy. if they don't they will miss out. republicans will miss the chance to tang more seats in the house and take or the senate. if democrats don't then they will lose those. bill: we have 7 months to debate this. >> i imagine we'll continue even though the president said stop. bill: thanks, jessica. arthel: after 15 months on the job he was fired. how does this guy manage to get $58 million to walk away, pack

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strong female leaders. bill: chelsea making the announcement. her mom reacted this way. >> that's a hard act to follow, secretary. are you expecting that child? >> grandchild, yes, which i'm really excited about. it makes this work even more important. bill: former president clinton tweeted his excitement saying chelsea said she hopes she can be a good mother as her mother has been. arthel: listen to this. the guy was fired add 15 months on the job. but now we know that yahoo's chief operating officer got to walk away with $58 million in a severance package. wow! how does this even happen?

who brokered this deal? you are talking about $6.8 million in yahoo stock and $1.4 million in salary and bonuses. >> if you do a bad job and you get $58 million. let many put this into context. the driver over here said what are you talking about? i said i'm talking about a $58 million severance package for doing a bad job. he said i came from russia. i was in a prison cam and i can't fathom that number. americans hear this and say this is outrageous. the problem is when it gets into the media, it's a public company.

then you start to have occupied wall street for occupied silicon valley. so that's the problem. but you can't get the government involved. arthel: you have people going wait a minute. i can't even make $58,000. i can't even make $5,000 a week or something like that. but you have this and these people are making so much money at the company, it's a private company you get to make money. so what do to does this do for perception? >> it's capitalism. catherine hiegle gets millions to make bad movies. alex rodriguez, highest-paid player in basketball. didn't perform but still gets the money. whoever negotiated this contract. maybe we should hire him. what does it do for perception.

$58 million to yahoo is tip money for the sky caps. arthel: the ceo who stole him from google, she had to have him. does anything happen to her? does she jeopardize her decision, her salary? >> this is decided by a board of directors. maybe she should stop the buddy system on the board of directors. but if the government gets involved in this sort of stuff where she they say this is what your compensation looks like and then they can say this is what your minimum wage could look like. that's a can of worms. bill: new developments on that sinking ferry. why authorities want an arrest warrant for the captain of that ship. will they get it? next. atever they want. come on. framily is not a word.

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new hour. fox news alert. crisis in ukraine with those throwing cold water on the attempt to settle the tension. i am bill. >> and i am in for martha this morning. the military is saying they will not go anywhere. >> william goldner is live. what is the result of the amnesty? >> the ukraine rebbles did haven't have a seat at the table and they are saying that is up to the ukrainian troops to

withdraw. >> as far as this disarmorment goes we will not pull troops out of kiev. >> the agreement surprised the u.s. officials who were prepare today tighten the sanctions if the talk fails. >> what is the ukrainian response to the rebals denying the deal? >> there is no response. it has been clear that moscow inspired the rebellion, provided troops dressed in black plain uniforms that seized buildings and airports. the president said it is up to moscow to make good on the deal. >> there was a public comment on

the need to disarm all irregular forces and groups that have been occupying groups. there was an offer of amnesty to those who would lay down their arms and evacuate the building so that law and order can be restored in eastern and southern ukraine. the russians signed on to that statement. >> reporter: the u.s. officials say they expect to see progress by next week. >> wendel, thank you. a look at the pro-russian seperatist. they launched this invasion 12 days and many wearing uniforms without identifying where they were. they control buildings in ten towns and they seized six armored personal carriers without firing a shot on thursday. the defense minister said they

were helped by russian agents. more on that in 30 minutes. >> a fox news alert on the deadly ferry disaster. prosecutors are speaking arrest warrant for the captain and two crew members. 28 confirmed dead and devastad families are demanding questions over the captain's action and who was steering the ferry. david has more from thailand. what kind of criminal investigation is underway here? >> reporter: well, we understand three arrest warrants have been iss issued for the captain and three officers. one is for the third officer at the head of the ship as it c capsized. the captain was else where and

one of the first to leave the ship. it is probably related to the crew members telling people to stay where they were as the ship capsized. those were the crucial minutes and what they will focus on >> what is the latest for the search for survivors, david? >> reporter: the actual ship is totally underwater. there are airbags to keep it from going further. earlier, they got into the cargo hold but were blocked and didnd find any bodies. they are bringing in cranes to tow the ship to a shally -- shallow -- waters. family is waiting on a nearby

island and there is a lot of anger because they are not getting information and the nature of the search. the vice principal of the school where many came from hanged himself in the woods. he survived but blamed himself some way for what happened. >> that is a serious culture thing there. david piper, thank you very much. senator harry reid throwing fuel on the fire in the standoff between the ranchers and the government. three taking on the government: >> these people who themselves out to be patriots are nothing more than domestic terrorist. people should follow the law and what went on in mesquite is domestic tourism. >> that last phrase is getting

attention. john roberts on that. senator harry reid hatched up a comment that is cooling off before. sfwl >> tensions were easing, but harry reid and his son rory want to keep the pressure cooking going and turned this into a personal feud. rory suggested that bundy should be prosecuted and senator harry reid upped the ante say this is an issue the government can't back away from and you heard him saying it, with the hundreds of people that support him, are nothing more than domestic terrorist. >> they had sniper rifles on the freeway and assault weapons and children and women lined up because if anyone was hurt they want today make sure they were

hurt first because they want the government hurting women and children. >> reporter: he said the latest comments about the domestic terrorism will fuel the flames >> what is bundy saying on this? >> reporter: he is rejecting this saying the hundreds of the people that supported him were good people. but he is not backing away that they are willing to challenge the government. >> i guess why rioting. there is unhappy people and we are riling against the federal government. the people pointing guns at us. we are not going to put up with this. >> reporter: plenty of ranchers in the west will tell you they have been squeezed and harassed over the water rights but they

are choosing to do with the government over conversation or court. >> has it been quite for 3-4 days? >> reporter: it has. it has been a war of words more than anything. there federal government took aw aw away water bundy needs for the animal. and if you don't have access to the water the grazing land is bas basically worthless. a major case in the kansas city highway shooter. a gunman responsible for 20 attacks on a busy roads. >> it is scary. i have kids that play on the street here. i drive up and down this street all of the time. it is scary having someone this

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there has been an arrest an a string of several shootings on highways. revealing very little about identity. >> i cannot say about the people in the community. without the people in the communi community, we would not be where we are. >> investigators are looking into 20 different shooters that

started in early march. in all three cases, drivers were injured but all are expected to be okay. darryl isa is stepping up the demand on the document for the botched rollout. in the letter, the chairman of the house committee on oversight and government reform says it seems the white house played a bigger part than was previously stated. bret baier, anchor of special report, good to see you. >> hello >> if they look at the who, what, when and why of this what might they find? >> this letter that darryl isa sent to the white house council is very detailed. it is very detailed. the white house, department of health and human services, came forward with a bunch of

documents to the committee when they were investigating the r l rollout and what went wrong and when. the first dump was in march and the second was on april 7th, a couple weeks ago. a lot of the documents came back redacted or said other documents were withheld and under pending review by the white house. isa is suggesting and this letter is detailed that the white house was involved in the formation and creation of the website and knew it would not work when it launched. you will remember the president said i wasn't informed directly the website wasn't working but

he is saying there was more connection to what they knew. they want the unredacted docume documents. >> what happens if they find out there is more specific people involved that knew about the rollout and there should have been a pushback? >> there is a good question. isa is trying to make the case that the president was involved in this and it shouldn't have been rolled out. the president's purpose yesterday and he said it a number of times in a number of ways he said quote this thing is working. we hit our numbers. this shouldn't be a topic and we should move on. this investigation was launched. isa says he needs to get to the

bottom of it and the republicans see a possibility of using that information if it points to the white house in many campaigns >> and bret baier, you talk about the politics. the president says nothing to see here and the law is working. of course, he wants to make sure his law is left alone and he wants to make sure his perception is still in tact with the public. you talk about the republican standpoint and how far to do they push to make sure they don't go so far to lose their personal stance and poplarity with the people. >> we talked thought on the panel. george nil suggested it can not be a one note all the way to

november and there has to be other things on the plate. charles crad hammer disagreed saying health care is going to be a big issue. when you take away the numbers and hitting these different marks it is how people are affe affected and when they go to the doctor is it pleasant. do they have to deal with narrow networks or deal with the one they have? at the end of the day in november, the positives and negatives, we will see where it stands. the polls are showing it is underwater right now. >> i will be watching you tonight, bret. he is back. the toronto mayor rob ford despite months of scandal over his drug use and hanging like this is as defiant as ever.

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the smaller places. it is causing problems in smaller town. even the canadian version of the irs had their information taken. there is not going to be a fix that will go away any time soon. >> is it expected to get worse over time, adam? >> it is expected to get worse. it allows hackers to create, for example, fake websites. that has been a threat out there but they can do it better now. it looks even faker, or more real i should say, and consumers could be hood wings. consume consumers will do a better job of protecting themselves and others it will get worse. >> it will get worse for

consumers who are not changing password and paying attention. >> we have been doing this for a week and a half and i didn't realize i was trying to send something back to the editors and i had not reset my passwords but i did on other things but forgot my cellphone. you have to go through everything you use to access the internet and change the passwords. that is what it does. it provides an open door. >> and then you have to remember the passwords >> and that is the biggest trick: trying to remember them. president obama trying to silence the critics claiming repealing the health care law would create a deficit. >> and a deal that will calm things down in ukraine but has

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some say it isn't worth the paper it was written on. bill o'reilly highlighted it this way. >> if you slow weakness in your life evil people take advantage. but there is a difference between weaweakness and tron constraint con. the president is powerless at this point in history to stop aggregation. >> jack keane is here.orning to. fox news analyst. what do you think about the big point o'reilly is making there? agree? >> he is right on the mark there. when american leadership is strong in the world, the world is a safer and better place probably. and when it is weak and it has been for a number of years, the world is by far a more dangerous place. our friends don't know if we

will back them up and they are prone to do something rash and our advisaries take haven't as well. >> out of ukraine, o'reilly was going about a series of events and mentioned syria, iran and now the matter with russia. do you see the thread that connects these events? >> this is a dissengagement. it isn't acting on solid intelligence in benghazi. we know who did it but we have not captured them.

the rise in the middle east and now in africa. and putin is taking advantage of american weakness to further his goal. >> i want to go over to the map. we did this the other day. we want to refresh the minds of the viewers. crimea is where it started. advance it one time. this is where we believe the russian government has gartheth. now it has moved into the ukraine from the eastern sides. and we are a reporter reporting from the eastern sides. this is a where the wild fires spread where it would be bad. we had an analyst saying geneva isn't worth the paper it is written on. is it? >> i think it is too early to

make that statement. we would like it to hold. but we have to be skeptical. putin made a statement he doesn't control the special operation forces there but we know that is not true. that would give creediance to the fact it might not work. >> what does putin do? kick back? let it cool down and then make a move? >> the real issue is the 40-50,000 troops on the other side of that border. he is not moving those troops. they are there the intimidate the government in kiev to move away from integration in europe.

that is what this is about from the beginning. those troops will stay there and the imtimidation as well. >> will it work? >> in the long run it probably will. >> to what degree? >> we will probably not to occupy, but he will have a relationship with eastern ukraine that is different than what we have right now. i think the combination will be made by the government in kiev because they feel they are on their own. we are not doing much to help them. they wanted military aid and other things and we are not providing that. our sanctions are weak and not curbing much behavior for sure. the europeans want no part of this as we know. >> jack keane, we will pick it up next week. president obama again praising the success of his health care plan and trying to quite his critics over whether repealing the plan will increase

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so in my opinion it is the exact opposite of the president's position. i felt there were two other areas he got it flatout wrong. he said the average american isn't affected in an adverse way. premiums up, deductibles up, and that would be an adverse impact on the average american from obamacare. and the president said a sizable part of the population is getting health care for the first time but the president won't tell us how many people are getting insurance for first sometime and studies suggest it will be a small number of people who were ininsured. the president spent a lot of time bashing thepub republicans on the issues. but when he was promoting it

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children living with a parent who is severely wounded in combat in iraq or afghanistan. a new study showing the serious challenge for children of our wounded veterans. rick has that here in new york. rick, good morning. >> a lot of attention is being given to service members severely wounded in iraq and afghanistan but there is little focus on their kids. 52, 000 children focused on themselves. we spent time a with family where richard was in iraq and blown against a wall and came home with ptsd and brain am injury. his relationship with his children has been ruined. >> they want to go outside and go fishing and it isn't something i am capable of doing. it hurts.

there is a lot of time i sink into a plaqblack hole and cut mf off >> if you give an amputee a prosthetic they can learn to walk again. it is very difficult and painful the thing is how do you give somebody their mind back? >> it is overwhelming. and it is frustrating. very frustrating. >> do you miss the way he used to be? >> yeah. a lot. >> they were one of the families taking part in the study that found these kids need counseling, support and more awa awareness. >> every day is a challenge particularly when traumatic brain injury and post traumatic

stress is present. there is so much unpredictable. and that is why we need to look beyond the visible wounds. >> reporter: 52,000 children involved bold thieves pull off a heist targeting an armed car. wait until you hear how much they got away with. >> a woman killed on the phone with 911 and the husband is being charged. >> we are looking at the point where they were dispatched, the when the officers were directed to go there to the point when the officers got there.

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before her husband allegedly shot her. police reportingly refusing to release that call britney -- recording what came over a scanner >> a report of domestic violence in place. 2112 south st. paul street. wife on the open line screaming a male had a gun. >> siegel and an attorney and legal investigator kent zimmerman a national law con tributer and former law attorney. the dispatcher sounds calm but they have to maintain the cool presence to keep the people on the other end cool. let's talk about the 12 minutes. and phillip, the 12 minutes it took police to get there. are they responsibility at all because they took so long and this women ended up dead?

>> i don't think so. just based on the fact it is 12 minutes. this isn't pizza delivery where why get there in 12 minutes or the pizza is free. the police have a lot of competing obligations when they are trying to figure out which calls they ought to respond to. the call was my husband is threatening to kill himself with our gun. it wasn't she is threatening to shoot me. he turned the gun on her. this was looking like a suicide and not like a domestic violence call initially. so i don't see with only what we know now that the police would be liable. the average response time in the united states is 8-10 minutes from police. there is nothing unreasonable, i don't think, in a 12 minute response time. you have to show me something to the effect the police could have gotten there earlier but didn't

oor they went to respond to a call that was less serious. >> the woman on the phone is saying please hurry. he said he had eaten pot-laced candy before this went down and he is saying please hurry. and what do you say to that, kent? >> home was 1.1 miles away from the very busy police station. it wasn't a 12 minute response time. published reports say it was 15 minute and that is double the average response time. more than double the average response for denver police for similar incidenincidents.

the police should have been there faster. was it there fault? maybe or maybe not. there is evidence of massive cuts and having to do more with less like many departments. i don't say this is the dispatcher or the police response but did they not have enough resources to get there? we will see. this was domestic violence and everyone knows that is one of the leading causes of death in the country. >> so the husband he is in jail now so he would normally be the guardian and protector of his wife. is there a way her family could step in and perhaps file a wr g wrongful death law suit? >> they can always file that. but the other side of the case might be that part of the problem was there was a gun in

the house and that the guy was using drugs and she chose to live there. so if they went in and said she was completely innocent and someone who had absolutely nothing to do with assumption of risk i could so -- i am all in favor of the second amendment and the right to bear arms. but when you introduce drugs and guns into the our house and the police say there were other things occupying us and we were not at the station and one minute away but 12 minutes away i don't know if a court is wanting to get into the middle of that. >> we are out of time here. >> 20 seconds, kent. >> i don't think it is going to work to blame the dead woman. no one is going to have sympathy for saying it was her fault she was killed by her husband. my heart goes out to the woman's

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