a seat if i can. i stand up in the wings. bill: happy easter to everyone at home if you're observing. happy easter to you. have a good weekend. bye-bye. py. jenna: powerful earthquake shook central and southern mexico. it was a magnitude 7.5 on first reading. centered near the pacific resort of acapulco. this quake shook mexico city for 30 seconds which can seem like forever. buildings reportedly baying as people fled high-rises and took to the streets. because of the easter holiday that particular city was less crowded as usual. we're waiting for more reports from the area. an earthquake in 1959 killed 6 thousand buildings and see void several buildings. we'll keep you posted as we hear

more. jon: this fox news alert. colorado state police are on the scene of a very serious crash involving a school bus. this taking place in larimer county, one of the counties along the front range in the northern part of the state. is part urban, part rural. you can see what is left of a small car that rear-ended a school bus then went all the way underneath. we are told a few of the kids on the bus were hurt. we don't know about anybody in the car, what might have happened to the driver and any passengers. but a very, very serious rear end accident involving a school bus in larimer county, colorado. when we get more information we'll bring you to you live. jenna: start off here with some politics. the president coming out swinging in a news conference saying eight million have signed up for health insurance under obamacare. considering that a big victory.

hello, everybody, i'm jenna lee. hope you're off to a great h great friday thus far. jon: i'm jon scott. they are offering new hope to democrats ahead of midterm elections. during the announcement the president slammed republicans for trying to repeal the affordable car act and blocking medicate expansion and many republicans say mr. obama should not pat himself on the back so fast because there are is it still so many unanswered questions about the enrollees. bob cusack managing editor of "the hill." he joins us now with more. they got eight million people signed up. does that translate to a popular new law, bob? >> well, not yet, jon. i mean it is definitely good news for the white house. we saw the president pushing republicans, spiking the ball. the interesting thing here, congressional democrats want to talk about the jobs and economy. they're the ones up for re-election this fall, not the president. we don't know exactly all the answers to it. we had millions of people who

lost their health insurance last year of the we don't know the makeup of this eight million exactly yet but good headlines for the president for a law that hasn't been particularly good to him. it is interesting democrats not going anywhere near it. kind of like a cactus, you get too close it can prick you. the next thing to watch over the summer, premiums, will they go up, will they go down? we're hearing they will go up. so that is one to watch. jon: you mentioned the economist the president also touched on that when he had the surprise news conference. i want to play a clip for you and get your reaction. >> point is the repeal debate is and should be over. the affordable care act is working and i know the american people don't want us spending the next 2 1/2 years refighting the settled political battles of the last five years. they sent us here to repair our economy, to rebuild our middle class and restore our founding promise of opportunity, not just for a few but for all. and as president that is exactly what i intend to keep doing as long as i'm in this office. jon: that's a restatement of

something he has said time and time again. you know, stop fighting old battles. i thought it was curious. they sent us here to repair our economy and what did he spend most of his first term doing? writing and trying to enact the affordable care act. >> yeah. no, that's right. they didn't move immigration. they had control of the house and senate and white house and that is big priority for the white house now. but it was all about moving the affordable care act which barely got to his desk and the president, i think he is tapping into, there are, people are tired of this debate but at the same time it is a raging debate. it will be moving into 2016. democrats who run for president are going to be asked about it and good aspects of the law and as well as its flaws. look for hillary clinton i think to propose, you know, some fixes to it because this, this is the law but at the same time, there have been many changes to this law, some republicans say that the president wasn't allowed to do because he just did it administratively without the consent of congress. jon: senator john barosso of

wipe open ming, one ever the long-time opponents of the law and medical doctor, he knows a thing or two about the practice of medicine. here is what he had to say. it is clear the president is focused on coverage instead of care. he either ignoring reports from across the country or isn't hearing them. he is out of touch with americans who lost their doctor, had their insurance canceled and watched their premiums spike all because of this failing law. this isn't a political fight. as the president is fond of repeating. his latest victory lap is hollow one for millions of americans who have who suffered as a result of his policy. it is a bit premature for the president to point out hey this, thing is working. we're in infancy of enactment of actual law. people haven't faced up to the fact many if they haven't signed up will pay the fine. irs will be coming after them. there are a lost shoes yet to drop here. >> yeah, the number, this eight million number, while impressive

it is not going to determine the success of obamacare. people are going to be looking at quality of care, what does it mean for me. am i paying more for my services? am i happy with quality of care i'm getting that will be the success of obamacare. the jury is still out on that whatever the number, they will make it very personal. there will be winners and losers on obamacare and if there are more winners that is good for the president. right now the law remains unpopular. it is under 50%. jon: you said that the president spiked the ball in that news conference. you also point out that the president doesn't have to run again. democrats in the house and senate, most of them in the senate or a third of them in the senate do have to run again in a couple of, a couple of months really. what are they saying about all this? >> yeah. they're skeptical. they don't want to get too close to obamacare. remember, the last midterm election they, democrats lost the house. in large part because of obamacare and they lost a lost senate seats.

this time with republicans firmly in control of the house, they're not going to loose the house. democrats are hoping to maybe pick up some seats but that even remains a big question mark. the big question is whether the senate will flip back to the republicans f that happens the president will be blamed and obama care will be blamed. jon: bob cusack from "the hill." bob, thank you. >> thanks, jon. jenna: overseas now, pro-russian militants in eastern ukraine showing no signs yet of backing down still refusing to surrender the hold on government buildings. even afterwards leaders reached a tentative deal to calm tensions there. leland vittert streaming live from eastern ukraine with more. leland? >> reporter: hi, jenna. president obama's skepticism that this latest deal was going to bring an end to the crisis here seems to be very well-placed. we just got back from the main parliament building here in eastern ukraine, the regional parliament building where the russian separatists doubled down

in the past 24 hours. a number of young separatists talked said they would rather die than give up positions inside that building they have taken over. the leader of the russian separatists movement says he will only give up in the entire ukrainian government leaves office. he wants a referendum here in eastern ukraine to define their future in which this region could become its own country or possibly join the russian federation. enter the russian government. president putin says he has the right to use his army to invade ukraine if necessary and that army is posed on the ukrainian border many here believe the russian intelligence services are certainly supporting these separatists if not controlling them. for the ukrainian government now, the new ukrainian government they're walking a very tightrope. they don't want to roll over simply seize this very valuable part of eastern ukraine with large amounts of coal to the russian government. at the same time they don't want to take on the separatists directly with their military or

police force in that sense that could give russia a pretext to launch a full-scale invasion here into eastern ukraine. jenna, back to you. jenna: we'll closely watch that part of world. leland thank you. jon: to build or not to build, that is the question looming on the keystone pipeline. most americans say, yes, get the thing built. environmentalists say no. democrats are not sure. for more on the controversial issue and potential impact on the midterms, doug mckelway live in washington. >> reporter: that's right, jon. there always has been a bit after rift in the democratic party over the keystone xl pipeline between the environmental wing of the party which is opposed and labor wing which favors it. that wing is growing wider. 11 red state democratic senators face tough election battles urging him to approve the pipeline. this process is ex-hoff tiff in time, brett and scope and taken longer than anyone can

reasonably justify. this is an international project will provide our great friend and ally, canada a direct route to our refineries. environmentally orient 9 democrats, representative henry waxman of california and sheldon whitehouse of rhode island written secretary of state john kerry saying approve of the pipeline is a choice between business as usual and facing up to the reality of climate change. one democratic analyst believes re-election battles of those 11 democratic senators are not the first priority of the president. >> i don't think the administration is looking at this from a political standpoint. if they were, it would be pass it, approve it. >> reporter: some of these threatened red state dems have been spending a lot of money on ads supporting the pipeline, jon. jon: i guess there are really some other political risks for democrats if that pipeline is not built, huh? >> reporter: all you need to do is look at europe, germany for example.

heavily subsidizes renewable energy. it is sold at a loss which is made up for imposing a surcharge on household electric bills. critics say it is not economic al. a lot of homeowners and electricity bill payers are protesting vehemently. those opposed to the pipeline say that will not happen here. they point to new fuel economy standard as one example. >> the new fuel economy standards adopted under president obama by 2025 will save the average driver $8,000 over the life of a car in lower gasoline prices. so using less oil, producing less carbon pollution will save drivers thousands of dollars. it's win-win. >> reporter: those 11 state, 11 red-state democratic senators want the president to make a decision on the pipeline by may 31st of this year. they're really putting pressure on him, jon. jon: sound like it. doug mckelway, in washington. thank you. jenna: this could easily be a

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jenna: at least 12 people are dead and three are missing after an avalanche sweeps down a climbing route on mt. everest. a tampa attorney was on the mountain at the time of the deadly avalanche and tells fox news that guides are among the dead. steve harrigan live in our miami bureau working this story. steve what do we know what may have caused this? >> reporter: jenna, we're not sure of the cause but this is very early in the climbing season. the avalanche itself took place not at a very high level, about 19,000 feet just below base camp two. most of the victims right now

are being described as sherpas, those are the people who go ahead and lay the ropes and prepare the base camps. we do have some audio from an eyewitness there, jeff brown. he was one of the foreign climbers at the base camp. now the audio is not great. it is on a cell phone from 20,000 feet but it gives you a sense of the drama of the unfolding tragedy there. here is jeff brown. >> up here at base camp -- [inaudible] 18 to 20 -- [inaudible] several injured. several lost. so far there is flown down over 13 body, in body bagses and with a helicopter. so yeah, really tragic day here. unbelievable. >> reporter: right now confirmed reports of 12 bodies, all of them sherpas being pulled from the snow and ice. you heard in that rough audio he is talking about perhaps as many as 18 dead. this number could rise

throughout the day as the rescue operation with helicopters and foot search continues throughout the day and evening, jenna. jenna: a good reminder this is the initial report we're getting at this time. there is concern and there has been over the years of overcrowding, specifically when it comes to mt. everest. does that have anything to do with some of the tragedy that we're hearing about now? >> reporter: it doesn't seem like that was anything to do with the cause of this tragedy, which was a pure avalanche but the government of nepal has been taking steps to try to manage the flow of climbers during this busy two-month climb season. there has been trouble in the past, especially with quick response evacuations, when there are crowds and logjams. so they have tried to balance that with their need for the tourism. this is a two-month spread when they really make their money. often has been the case in the past. certainly in this case, the real victims are the first ones up the mountain, the guides, the sherpas. they are the ones who plant the ropes, who build up the tent camps in this case face the

mountain's danger first. jenna. jenna: steve, more on the story as we get it. thank you. jon: an update on that creepy surveillance video that we brought you earlier in the week. caught the attention of people all across the country. a burglar seen staring at a baby sleeping in a crib. we have new details about the man caught on camera. plus we told you yesterday about a man who did not serve his prison sentence many years ago because of a clerical error until the state realized the error last year around put him behind bars. we will speak to his lawyer about this complicated case.

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in a crib. they say tips from the public helped them track down the teenage suspect. laura engel joins with us more information. laura. >> reporter: jon that video evidence of a real life boogeyman lurking around in the middle of the night hovering over a sleeping baby indeed left many of us creeped out. here is mug shot of the suspect, 18-year-old christopher gomez. he was arrested after numerous tips came into a crimestoppers hotline. according investigators gomez is suspect in two other home burglaries. >> what is really kind of disturbing about this burglary, as with all burglaries, with this one the residents were asleep while this was taking place and this individual came through the house, walked through each bedroom, which was caught on surveillance because the homeowner does have a video surveillance system. >> reporter: we want to show you the surveillance video taken from a camera set up inside of the toddler's bedroom in katy, texas. according to local reports they

think gomez entered the home on april fifth and took several items including a wallet and laptop that was later left on a neighbor's lawn. thankfully he din touch that baby. gomes could appear in court later today onburg ary charges, jon. jon: that is creepy video. laura, thank you. jenna: we told you yesterday about a man named michael anderson, a missouri man who didn't serve a prison sentence because of a clerical error until the error was noticed last year, 13 years later. anderson was convicted of armed robbery was convicted and sentenced to 13 years. he and his cousin rob ad burger king with a bb gun. his bail should have been revoked and it didn't happen. he took the chance to turn his lifelife around. he married. he a father of four. active member his community and his church and local football

leagues. he has not been in trouble since that crime he committed in 1999. one day last summer after the state realized its mistake the police came to his home an picked him up. they use ad s.w.a.t. team. he has been behind bars serving that sentence ever since. the state attorney general said this to fox news yesterday as we reached out for a statement. my goal is to suggest a way for the court to appropriately balance the seriousness of mr. anderson's crime with the clerical error made by the criminal justice system alongside mr. anderson's conduct since the commission of the crime. all three factors deserve recognition in resolving this difficult situation. so he is supposed to sit behind bars for 13 years and make up this case, but his attorney wants something different. he said it is cruel and unusual punishment. joining us now is michael's attorney. his name is patrick michael magrow. patrick, nice to have you on the program. our viewers took to the case on the program, very sympathetic toward your client.

there is one question that comes up. your client did know he was guilty of a crime and appeal after people. why didn't he belief he didn't have to service the sentence. >> he did have to service the re dealing with 23-year-old young man were no legal training, no prior criminal history, no experience with the criminal justice system. he relied fon his attorney, who told him at the time, don't worry the state of missouri will direct to you surrender. you have to wait for that day. unfortunately that day never came. he continued on with his life nothing happened. jenna: he didn't think, the reason why i'm bringing this up, in the attorney general's response to your case, this is what they say about your client. essentially they say that he took advantage of the situation and in hope it would never come up again. they say he has unclean hands in that sense and that he knew he was under, you know, bond and he chose not to tell the court. by the way, we'll use this photo

of him, his mug shot by feel like it is unfair because he has other photos of him in the community. that is just one mug shot. he has never been in trouble since this time in 1999 i believe. but what do you say to the attorney general that says, hey, he took advantage of the situation? >> that's completely incorrect. he notified the court several times that he was out on bail, even after he lost his appeals. he filed the document with the court, said, and the first paragraph from the first page, i am not in custody and gave his home address. so to say that he took advantage of the situation is simply not correct. it was the state that failed to execute the judgment. it was the state that failed to seek him out and find him. jenna: the state also disagrees with your claim that is cruel and unusual punishment. to have him serve his sentence, which would mean that he would behind bars now from this.on for 13 more years. but again, in their response they map out a possibility of another case saying that perhaps

they could turn this over to the parole board and your client could be on parole in some sort of agreement to say that he served his time and went through the process. are you open to that? what do you think? >> we are exploring that possibility and i filed a reply with the court last night, going through that exactly. there is another possibility which i have always filed an application for executive clemency with governor nixon. that application was filed yesterday. and governor nixon could take the matter into his own hand and simply issue a pardon or commute the remainder of his sentence which would achieve the functional equivalent. jenna: i just want to point out to our viewers as they might have seen we were trying to fix your mic there. there is not another person in the shot. we want to make sure we hear you clearly. on that final point, we have looked at, the state of missouri and how many crimes they have commuted or sentences they have commuted, pardon me and doesn't seem likely.

what do you think is the most likely outcome and what sort of timeline do you see on this because again your client remains behind bars at this current time? >> if he were granted clemency, yesterday wouldn't be soon enough. i pushed the court to hold a hearing as soon as possible and i've implored the governor's office to hear this clemency application as soon as humanly possible. this is a man that does not deserve to be removed from the community. he is a credit to his community. he is a valuable member of society and i want to bring him home to his wife and children as fast as possible. jenna: all right, patrick, nice to have you on the program. >> thank you. jenna: we had a statement from the attorney general's office there. we look forward to talking to them and perhaps continuing to follow the case. thank you for your time. we appreciate it. >> have a nice day. jenna: this is interesting case, what do you think about this, our viewers? do you think this is fair that he was convicted of a crime and he was sentenced and didn't serve for the crime. it is armed robbery and a felony. in that time period he turned

his life around. jon: the state forgot all about him. jenna: wasn't his fault. jon: part of the purpose of jail, prison is, you know, rehabilitation. he has clearly rehabilitated himself over those 13 years. jenna: on the flip side one of our viewers wrote in, you do the crime you got to do the time. curious what you have to say about that. tweet us @happeningnow. dr. chuck will come up next hour and talk about a few other legal cases we have and what in his opinion he thinks is justice in this case. jon: there is this. a possible break in a string of highway shootings. police arrested a man yesterday. why they think he could behind these random acts of violence. president obama touting the latest numbers on obamacare, taking the opportunity to blast republicans. the fallout ahead. vo: once upon a time there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where castles were houses

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jon: right now a look what is still to come this hour of happening now. president obama giving the white house press corpse a surprise news conference. did they come out swinging or with softballs? we'll take a fair and balanced look. 7-year-old twin brothers taking their lives into their own hand after landing what could have been a very bad situation. why they're now calling these little guys heroes. this holiday weekend will bring tons of easter candy. we'll fill you in how to cut some corners and save calories in the process.

jenna: that would be both our best and worse segment of the day, as we face the truth about easter candy. jon: yes. jenna: today police will release new information police say at suspect is under arrest. the unidentified man could be responsible for shooting at 20 cars since march. the shootings injured three drivers and obviously scared many more people. garrett tenney is live in chicago with the latest on this story. garrett. >> reporter: jenna, sources tell our local fox affiliate wdaf, that this suspect was under 24 hour surveillance more than a week now. kansas city's police chief says it was tips from the community that led them to the suspect in the city of grant view, a suburb south of kansas city where at least six of the reported shootings happened. police swarmed the man's home yesterday evening, taking him into custody, then gathering evidence inside and towing away a green dodge knee i don't know with out-of-state license plates

that crime scene investigators are processing -- neon. since shootings began nearly six weeks ago officers increased patrols in areas of shootings but drivers say they still have been on edge and are relieved someone is finally in custody. >> i think i can breathe a little bit easier. >> we've tried to avoid the try angle. it has been nerve blacking. >> i feel better now. going up and down that highway, that is the way we have to go every morning. >> everybody is talking about the shooter and but now it is very good to hear they have catch him in a short time. >> reporter: prosecutors are expected to file charges against the suspect in custody at some point today. after that, police are going to be holding a press conference to release more details about their investigation. jenna? jenna: hopefully this is the beginning of the end of this story, garrett. thank you. jon: the obama administration going on the offensive this week with jay carney, lashing out at

fox news over complaints of white house secrecy. and president obama blasting republicans for not throwing in the towel on health care. and at least one member of the white house press corp pushing for even more aggressive stance, listen. >> isaac from "politico." where are you, isaac? >> thank you, mr. president. given all you were just saying about the affordable care act do you think it's time for democrats to start campaigning loudly and postively on the benefit of obamacare? will you lead that charge? jon: well, kirsten powers is a usa today columnist and fox news contributor. that was edward isaac devore from "politico" who teed up that softball for the president. why doesn't the president, you know, begin this full-throated defense of obamacare, and why don't other democrats take up that exact same thing? >> well, i think the president has been doing that.

i think that question was actually a reasonable question because in a way it is almost a little bit of a dig at democrats in the sense that they haven't been touting what has been the president's most significant achievement according to -- jon: unpopular achievement. >> right. i think he was asking a legitimate question, are you now going to start making a more vigorous case for obamacare? so, you know, but i think the president has been making a pretty vigorous case for obamacare. the issue has been the democrats who are running for re-election who have not been doing that. jon: well, i guess the question is, if, if obamacare were more popular, wouldn't there be more democrats rushing to, you know, to get in on the bandwagon to say, hey, look what we brought you? >> yeah, absolutely and i think that, you know, have, had the rollout gone better, had not been a complete disaster and we had these kind of numbers of sign-ups earlier on i think you probably would have seen a lot

of democrats running on obamacare. the problem is that now, even if you are getting, you know, eight million number, which is pretty impressive, assuming that it is true, it is kind of baked into the cake already that people are unhappy because, for example, the president said that if you like your plan you could keep it and that ended up not being true. the website was a disaster and people couldn't get on. some people have lost their insurance. some people have seen their premiums double. there are all these other issues. so i think that, you know, it puts the democrats in a tough place because there are some good news but there is also a lot of bad news. jon: given those things that you just mentioned, premiums doubling, you know, the website crashing, people not able to sign up and so forth, why is the president out there proclaiming that obamacare is working? >> well, because the website problems are behind us. so i think that's one of those things obviously it was terrible and, but now people are able to

get on and they are signing up. so i think it is fair for him to say it is succeeding by the measurements that he laid out, the number of people who would sign up. so, and i think that, you know, they also remember jon, that they dispute that people's premiums have been doubling even though, i mean, mine doubled. it is happening but the white house really doesn't acknowledge that is even happening. in fact i think the president said that people's premiums were dropping. so, they have a different set of facts they're working from. jon: and the president seems to ignore the design of the system that the founding fathers gave us, you know. he wants republicans to jump on his bandwagon and endorse everything that he does, namely obamacare. that is not necessarily what the congress is supposed to do. >> no. they're not but i do, you know, i've been pretty critical of the republicans on this repeal obamacare plan. for no other reason they really don't have the support of

americans. most americans, even, the though they say they're unhappy with obamacare they would say they would like to see it fixed, not repealed. for the republicans to continually pass these, you know, bills that really are never going to come to fruition because it will not get through the senate, at least not yet. we'll see what happens if there is a republican senate. but i think that you know, of course the president will tell them to stop doing that. i don't think there is anything wrong with him saying that. jon: from their standpoint there some so value in those members of congress reminding their voters, their constituents that they didn't vote to, to support this thing, to foist it on the american people. and, you know, that the democrats own it, lock, stock and barrel? >> i think everybody knows that. i don't think they need to remind anybody of that at this point. jon: well, the president says it's working. it seems like if it is working that it wouldn't be quite so unpopular.

meantime jay carney is taking another shot at fox news, claiming that you know, the white house does all of this, makes all these great efforts to be transparent and sometimes hurts them, to their detriment because he says that it prompts fox news to run ridiculous stories. what planet is he living on? >> yeah. this is kind of, something you would expect from the kremlin honestly, from the white house. it is so disconnected from reality. the idea, first of all, that fox news is the only organization, news organization that has criticized the white house on their lack of transparency is just, it is ahistorical. it is not what has happened. they have been criticized by the executive editor of the new york types. they have been criticized by all sorts of people on the fact that they are not the most transparent. in fact the they're the least transparent and so for him to claim that they are, there is transparent is a falsehood.

then to pick on fox news which is what he loves to do and what the white house loves to do, part of their whole delegitimatizing fox news plan which they can't let go which is completely inappropriate use of power for the white house. they should not be singling out news organizations and trying to tell americans which ones are legitimate and which ones aren't legitimate. i don't hear them complain about msnbc, you know which essentially operates as an arm of the democratic national committee. and you know, and so i think that he is, complete abuse of power. jon: not very transparent but they are a little thin-skinned there in the -- >> a little, yeah. jon: in the white house. kirsten powers, good to have you on. >> thank you. jenna: well the windy city is embroiled in controversy. new claims that chicago's top cop is cooking the books, trying to cover up the crime rate. we'll explain that coming up. a young woman disappears without a trace. she has been gone more than eight years. we'll, will a new look at the

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jon: the city of chicago is experiencing another wave of deadly violence as chicago's top cop fights accusations that he cooked the books to make violent crime statistics appear to be lower than they are. mike tobin live in chicago with more on that. mike? >> reporter: jon, there is accusation city leaders here in chicago respond to the plague in violence simply creating the impression that things were getting better. hand in hand with the break in weather, bullets fly again, eight people shot overnight,. that follows a particularly deadly weekend. [sirens] 36 shootings in 36 hours as gun-toting gang bankers return to the troubled streets of chicago in the warming weather. as chicago magazine publishes an investigation claiming that city leaders manipulated crime statistics to create the appearance of a rapidly decreasing rate of crime.

>> this is a betrayal of public trust in the sense that mayor rahm emanuel and superintendent gary mccarthy are public servants. they are paid by our tax dollars. we deserve in return truth from them. >> reporter: cops claim the report is patently false and slam its reliance on anonymous sources. >> i'm troubled by it because it hurts our credibility. while we're trying to build credibility. so it is really troubling. >> reporter: the head of the fbi arrived in chicago and spoke of roughly 100 special agents dedicated to plague of violent crime. >> enormously difficult challenge especially in a community with embedded, long-standing gang activity, hugely difficult. arresting is an important part of the challenge but it requires so much more than that you can't arrest your way to a healthy neighborhood. >> reporter: this morning mayor emanuel and superintendent mccarthy announced an increase of bike patrols in the troubled neighborhoods. superintendent mccarthy advocated an easing of drug laws

and a stiffening of gun laws. jon? jon: mike tobin, in chicago. mike, thank you. jenna: speaking of crime fighters, two little boys are hailed as heroes. they're mini crime fighters, twins in fact. stopping a man who tried to carjack them and their paying by brother. wait until you hear what they did to get away. the easter bunny is coming sunday morning as we all know. all the sweets can pack on the pounds. that is something we don't want to talk about. ways to cut the calories and still enjoy the holiday next. ♪

jon: two little boys in

san antonio, texas, being hailed as heroes. the seven-year-old twins beat off a carjacker who took off with them and their baby brother with some toys. laura engel live in our new york city newsroom. >> reporter: jon, i spoke with police in san antonio who told us this is incredible tale of survival could have taken a much different turns if the boys didn't jump into action as they did. it happened to innocent run into the house with the boy's mother who left their 7-year-old twins and one-year-old brother in the back seat of family car to go inside before they headed to church. with the keys left in the ignition, the suspect came along and sped in the car parked in family's driveway and sped off. police don't think they knew kids were in the car. once they were moving the boys started hitting them with their fists and rubber snake. the suspect relented and dropped them off in front of a home about a mile away. >> i was kicking him. >> i was hitting him with the snake. >> got up to the door and the

boy was shaken up. they kidnapped us, they kidnapped us. come on in. you're okay. >> reporter: will they continue to track down the missing vehicle and suspect, the boy's mother is thankful her boys are okay. >> i thank god that the guy, he didn't harm them. you know, he gave them the phones and told them to call, to call their mom. i thank bod for that. that he didn't touch them. >> reporter: police remind us all, never leave your kids in the car even for a moment. if you must, make sure to take your keys with you. jon. jon: always keep a rubber snake in the back seat. >> reporter: apparently so, right. jon: laura engel, good news there. thanks, laura. jenna: way to go. easter bunny will bring baskets littered with jellybeans and peeps and candy items but do you have any idea how many calories are in the holiday treats? even if you choose to ignore the calories like some of us, do you know what you can do to work off the little extra indulgence this

weekend? we have a nutrition consultant and author of read it before you eat it. bonnie, this is the best segment of the day and sort of worst, because we have to face the facts, bonnie. how bad are a few jellybeans here and there this weekend. >> a few is active part of that sentence of the easter sunday, is sunday, don't buy enough candy in our car to last a month. that is important to think about too. it is not so much that the candy is so terrible for you on that day. it is that, you know we have to burn it off also and how much of it are you eating? and there is a good why to think about non-he had dabble things in the basket. jenna: as far as portions, give us idea what kind of calories we're talking about with a serving of some of our favorite easter candies? >> sure. five little chicks that usually come in a package together -- jenna: marshmallow ones? >> marshmallow chicks, those are 180 calories.

you have to walk about 40 minutes to get rid of those chicks. jenna: just those chicks. >> just those chicks. there are five in a packet. they don't come with magnets. you can actually eat one or two instead of all five. jenna: that sound like good advice. if you want to put out healthy alternatives or fill the easter basket for your kids with good stuff maybe not all candy, what would you suggest? >> again could be some non-food things also. put in their favorite treat and put in little toys or stuffed animals. for the guys you could put in a little remote control. for us a little bit of jewelry. jenna: that is not bad. i like that. >> i like those. mixed foods, healthier foods. for example, even a bag of jellybeans, add some almonds in there and dried fruit in there. this way not every bite is jellybean. even though jellybeans are four calories eat, handfuls of them add up. jenna: jellybeans are some of my personal favorites. create your own easter trail mix with jellybeans and am monday.

>> exactly. jenna: what is the worst thing? when you go to the drugstore to see the shelves with the candy but you probably don't buy any. >> they are all pretty. jenna: what is worst thing on the shelf. >> a bunny this big that is solid mick chocolate could set you back like a thousand calories. so a really good thing to do, you know how people do like easter egg hunts. what you do is hide candy and then go hunt for it but hide it around two miles from your house. walk there, bike there. get a little exercise. jenna: this is my favorite thing by the way, the cadbury eggs, my favorite. i love these. this is what the crew brought me today. you do think they're send me a message? like the little one, right? >> that's a good point. portion control, then you don't get in trouble as much. jenna: i want to thank, ed, one of our cameras guys for hooking me up. i appreciate it. bonny, we'll keep in in mind. portion control. jon you're holding up something. jon: look what jenna brought me for easter? coconut almonds, chocolate,

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jon: a fox news alert and a magnitude 7.2 earthquake, a pretty significant one, has rattled the capital of mexico, shook southern and central mexico, i guess actually centered maybe near acapulco. no reports of major damage or casualties, but panicked people went rushing out into the middle of the streets fearful that it could be a lot worse than it turned out to be. joining us on the phone, jose de cordoba, i understand you felt this thing, huh? >> yes, i felt it. i have to say i was in bed, and it got me out of bed quickly, put it that way. jon: yeah.

and what did you do, run out to the street? >> no, no. it wasn't -- in the part of the city where i was, you know, it's fairly safe earthquake wise, so i just kind of hung out and waited for it to finish. jon: yeah. it was originally, i guess, measured at 7.5. that was downgraded to 7.2. still a fairly significant earthquake. >> yeah. a very strong quake, for sure. jon: and i nomex coe city is -- know mexico city is susceptible to them because of that big underwater lake that the whole city sits on. >> that's right. large parts of the city are on , and those areas tend to be, you know, much more problematic, that part of the city that i live in which is on rock. jon: well, and i recall back in 1985 there was that mexico city earthquake that killed, what, about 6,000 people?

>> it killed about 10,000 people and really was a devastating event for the city and, actually, ended up shaking the the -- shaping the country's politics because people organized, the government reacted so badly to the damage that people started organizing for themselves. and in a sense, it helped lead to the democratization of the country later on. jon: well, it's amazing when that kind of physical, physical event changes the politics of an entire country. it's good of you to join us, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. >> happy to do so. jon: thanks, jose. >> take care. of -- jon: and a fox news alert, hoping for a miracle in south korea as crews try to rescue anyone who might still be alive inside that capsized ferry. welcome to a brand new hour of "happening now," i'm jon scott. jenna: hi, everybody, i'm jenna

lee. divers are pumping air into that ferry that sank roughly 48 hours ago in an attempt to keep any possible survivors alive. as hundreds of horrified families watch, wait and pray. 270 people remain missing, most of them were high school students on their way to a high school trip. prosecutors in the meantime seeking an arrest warrant for the ferry's captain who was reportedly one of the very first people to get off that sinkerring ship. david piper streaming live from bangkok, thailand, with the latest for us now. david? >> reporter: hi, jenna, yes, search teams have been struggling to get into the ship to find any survivors, and hopes are fading fast that anyone could have survived inside that ship. we understand now that the ship is totally sub merged. they've been using air pgas to stop it -- airbags to stop it sinking further. divers did manage to get into the cargo hold but couldn't get further because of obstacles. they've been pumping oxygen into

the vessel, and they hope to use cranes to, perhaps, move the ship to shallower waters. the slow pace of the search is causing understandable grief to families waiting for news on a nearby island. they've been complaining about lack of information and also claims there was no order to abandon ship. meanwhile, the vice principal at the school where the vast majority of children onboard came from has hanged himself on a nearby island. he survived and is reported to have felt guilty. it's also emerged that the captain of the ferry was not at the helm of the vessel when it capsized. a junior officer was steering the ship when the accident occurred. the captain is also facing criticism for apparently jumping into a rescue boat while hundreds of people were still onboard. arrest warrants have now been issued for the captain and two members of his crew. a lot of the focus of the information will be that -- investigation that survivors said they were told to stay still and not evacuate the ship. a member of the crew has said no order was given to abandon the

ship, and we understand they stayed onboard for 30 or 40 minutes before trying to escape, but that was the valuable time. and because they didn't get out, many of them are still inside that ferry. back to you, jenna. jenna: david piper live in the thailand. david, thank you. jon: right now president obama on the offensive regarding health care announcing that eight million people are now signed up for obamacare and suggesting critics of the affordable care act should simply move on. >> they still can't bring themselves to admit that the affordable care act is working. they said nobody would sign up. they were wrong about that. they said it would be unaffordable for the country. they were wrong about that. jon: elizabeth prann joins us now live from washington. elizabeth? >> reporter: hi, jon. well, you heard there the president telling republican lawmakers that they need to stop trying to repeal the law, that they need to focus be on jobs and the economy. but he also told democratic lawmakers to forcefully defend and embrace the law. the president arguing health

care costs are going down, and these new numbers show the law is working. >> we now know that the number of americans who have signed up for private insurance in the marketplaces has grown to eight million people, eight million people. 35% of people who enrolled through the federal marketplace are under the age of 35. >> reporter: but some state insurance officials who visited the white house this week say the president still has not answered questions about exactly who has enrolled, and the constant policy changes have made the law very confusing and difficult for states to enforce. some republican lawmakers say the situation may be getting worse and not were better. >> well, about five million people got their policies canceled, so quite a few of the people he's bragging about, he just made them get rid of their cheaper insurance, and he made them buy more expensive insurance. the other bigger question we're going to have in the next few months is let's say you have

subsidized health insurance. that's great, but what if your deductible's $6,000? >> reporter: we may not know how many young and healthy signed up and paid and enrolled in full until the fall where he predicts that a lot of these premiums could skyrocket for millions of americans. jon, back to you. jon: elizabeth prann at the white house for us, thanks. jenna: staying with politics, interesting advice for democrats as they fight to keep control of the senate in november. several top strategists are essentially calling the economic recovery a political loser for democrats. here's part of a quote from a memo put out by a democratic group called democracy corps: jenna: joining me now for debate on this, basil michael, a

democratic political consultant and brad blakeman. basil and brad, you guys could be a singing group together. [laughter] we should try that after -- >> you don't want to hear me sing. [laughter] >> me either. jenna: basil, you agree this word "recovery" sends mixed messages, but can democrats actually avoid the reality of the economy? >> you know, they can't avoid the reality. it's an old campaign trick. it's always economic issues, pocketbook issues. but what i think is interesting from the democrats' perspective is that a lot of the policies that the president has put into place, obamacare being one of them, are policies that may show some benefit but in the long term, not really in the short term that a lot of democratic candidates can take advantage of some of those victories, and you heard the president sort of touting the numbers. so there are not enough short-term strategies that give democrats enough actual

ammunition. and, you know, they're hearing a lot of this conversation about income inequality. there's a recent study from princeton and north western university that talked about this growing old gary in the united states. jenna: right. >> when you hear things like that, there are a lot of democratic voters that say there's a recoy, but it's not -- recovery, but it's not being redistributed. jenna: and, brad, that's what we hear from democrats now, a lot about income inequality. do republicans really have an answer? if the economy is going to be central in the midterms, and that's something else these democratic strategists say, hey, if you want to get people to the polls, keep talking about the economy. do republicans really have a strategy here? because we keep on hearing mainly about health care. >> yes, they do, and that is we have to revamp the tax code, make it fairer and flatter, get rid of regulation, we've got to give certainty to the marketplace. uncertainty in the marketplace is the biggest hindrance towards an honest to goodness recovery because people don't know what their obligations are. and as obamacare shifts by the president unilaterally changing

the law, there is uncertainty in the marketplace, there's uncertainty with the individual and in government. so the best thing we can do for the american people is lay out a plan. it's not spending more than we take in, it's actually reducing the amount of government and returning more power to the individual. jenna: well, let me challenge you -- >> that's the republican plan. jenna: let me challenge you both on that. income inequality, tax reform, these are not necessarily bold new ideas. where are the bold, new ideas for voices within either party? be basil, you first, and then we'll get brad. >> well, yeah, i think brad's point about the uncertainty in the economy is correct, but i would also point out that a lot of it is coming from the right. i think when the republicans spend a lot of time talking about trying to repeal a bill that's not going to get repealed, when they talk about -- when they're shutting down government, i think that's where a lot of the uncertainty comes in. i will say this though, with respect to obamacare in this particular and talking about the income inequal thety, i think --

inequality, i think what the democrats should do, there's been a lot of talk that the democrats should hedge their bets on obamacare. i actually think they should be talking a lot more about it. it impacts the poorer and more disadvantaged constituent, it impacts the core of our party, and we should be mobilizing and energizing them. jenna: interesting. so maybe be more aggressive, something more like what we see from the president. brad, quickly, your thoughts about bold, new ideas, what's a bold new answer, if you will, to talking about health care. >> allow insurance to be spread across state lines, allow people to buy insurance and bundle their insurance. for instance, liability insurance. i have a great liability company. maybe they should go into the health care business too, and they know what my track record is with my house and my personal property. why wouldn't they want to insure me in health care? but the object of the game in reducing costs is giving people opportunity to shop around. right now i'm fixed in virginia, i'm limited to my option toes. that shouldn't be the case in america. we should be able to shop across

state line, reduce our costs. and by the way, we should also have health savings accounts like have been talked about by dr. carson where it starts at the birth of a child and accumulates over time as well. jenna: well, it'll be interesting to see if that's part of the platform as republicans try to take the senate, be added, combined or part of the aca, the affordable care act. brad, basil, great to have you both today. thank you very much. jon: but no singing. jenna: not yet. we'll work on that. jon: next time. jay carney creating a buzz saying the president's interview with the daily show's jon stewart was the toughest one of his re-election campaign. does that mean carney's taking a shot at the white house press corps? and chaos on a california highway. witnesses and survivors calling for help in that deadly bus crash. the newly-released 911 calls.

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jon: a fox news alert and frantic 911 calls released in last week's fiery crash in california. a fedex truck colliding with a bus carrying high school students. the wreckage burst into flames, sparking panic among witnesses and survivors who struggled to stay calm as they dialed for help. jon: will carr is live with us with more on that from los

angeles. >> reporter: some people called 911 just seconds after the crash, other people were literally on the phone with dispatchers when the bus exploded into a massive fireball. this all happened last thursday on i-5 in northern california. the fedex truck barreled across the median, crashed head on into a bus filled with high school students who were headed to humboldt college. the bus ended up exploding, ten people died, five students, three adult chaperones, the fedex truck driver and the tour bus driver all killed. listen to one panicked student describe the aftermath of the crash to a dispatcher. >> you still on the bus, or are you off the bus with at this point? >> everyone's off the bus. the bus is on fire. >> i understand. are you away from it, or are you still on it? >> yeah. we're getting away from the bus actually. >> okay. >> reporter: investigators say right now they're not speculating as to what caused the crash. what they are doing is recreating the scene. they brought out two of the same vehicles to safely recreate the

exact conditions that occurred before the fedex truck hit the bus. >> we will first start out with some video testing so we can get a grasp, an idea of what each driver saw as they were approaching the collision scene. >> reporter: investigators say they'll continue to interview witnesses for answers, jon. it could be a while, investigators say it could be three to six months before their final report is released. jon: and with both the truck driver and the bus driver dead, it's going to do -- they're going to have to do an awful lot of reconstructing and guess work to try to figure out what happened here. >> reporter: that's right. jon will carr in los angeles, thank you. jenna: well, he was convicted of killing a police officer and sentenced to death and had quite an adventure along the way there in court. his fate, though, could change. we're going to tell you why. an interesting twist to that story. also a breakthrough for

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jon: right now a second chance for a convicted killer on death row in texas. a federal appeals court deciding to allow him to move forward with an appeal on the grounds that details about his abusive childhood were not brought up during his trial. he was condemned for the deadly 2001 shooting of an off-duty dallas police officer. the victim seen here in a picture with his wife. let's talk about this case with fred tecce, john man orwellian is a criminal defense attorney and dr. chuck williams, a psychologist at drexel

university. welcome to each of you. >> thanks for having me. >> thank you. jon: john, to you first. this guy was convicted, he's sitting on death row but now comes, apparently, the claim that his attorneys didn't give the court enough information about his abusive childhood and, therefore, his conviction should be thrown out, he should get a new trial. is that appropriate? >> i think so. i think there wasn't enough mitigating evidence presented. i think the key is whether or not he had a fair trial at the sentencing phase, and without the jurors knowing about his abusive past, specifically that he was beaten up as a child by two adults, he had a very bad substance abuse problem, his father hit him over and over again, i mean, the jurors need to hear that. now, whether or not they agree or not agree is not the issue. the issue is whether or not he had a fair trial at the sentencing phase specifically at the death penalty phase, and without that mitigating evidence and the red flags that were not investigated, the court basically said you've got to give this guy another chance. jon: but, fred, he was convicted

of doing the crime. >> correct. he was convicted, found guilty. the jury convict requested him in one hour. look, my mother used to beat me with a wooden spoon. does that mean i'm going to get away murder? in order to show ineffective assistance of counsel, you have to show that the trial outcome may have been different, but unfortunately for this guy in this case, it would have been harmless error. the evidence was overwhelming. and again, under texas law a mitigating factor has to have some nexus to the crime committed. i'm sorry, i think this guy's testimony and this evidence, and there's no evidence in the record as to why it wasn't presented. his lawyers may have made a decision that it wasn't going to make a difference one way or another or actually even hurt. jon: doesn't it amount to, you know, giving this guy a second bite at the apple, a second, you know, a second attempt to prove his case, john? >> no, john. listen, the attorneys didn't even look into his juvenile record. they received redacted records. they didn't bother to ask for the unredacted records.

it's clear ineffective assistance of counsel under the washington v. strickland case. they didn't check the red flags. look, we're not saying that strategy wasn't used here, but in order to invest in strategy, you have to know what all your options are. and without the lawyers completing a proper and thorough investigation and at the very least getting a mitigation expert to review the this case, i agree with the court, i think it was ineffective assistance. jon: but, fred, regardless of what led up to all of this, christopher james is dead. i mean, christopher james was an off-duty cop working at a dallas club. does it matter to him? does it matter to his widow, to his little kid what kind of life the shooter had prior to pulling the trigger? >> no. it doesn't matter to them one bit. their father's just as gone, and his wife's still a widow, and that child's still orphaned. it's a horrible, horrible case. john's right about this though, jon, the fact of the matter is that this is a death penalty case, and the guy is facing the ultimate punishment, and i think what happened is the fifth circuit said we're going to take

a look at this. again, they have to show that this would have made a difference in the outcome. if it was harmless error, which i'll bet you a dollar is what the fifth circuit will end up finding, then this guy is just as much on death row today as he is yesterday. jon: all right. let's go to dr. chuck, the psychologist, how can you do that, i how can you prove to a jury that somebody's childhood and the horrors they might have endured as a child are responsible for them committing murder? >> jon, don't we live in a great country, america? i mean, you get an opportunity to have not one, but two trials, and you can put in evidence like you had a rough childhood? well, so did i. and i want to be very clear that we don't want to send a message that because you're abused as a child, as i had been as a child, you group up to kill a cop. you kill a cop, that's it. i really don't understand what kind of message we send to the rest of the public when we allow for all these mitigating

circumstances. like my colleague mentioned, if you can't show clear and convincing evidence that there's a relationship between that childhood that was very troubled and challenging and the act of murdering a cop, i don't imagine why we would allow those things to happen -- >> that's not the legal standard. jon: all right. we're going to leave it there -- [inaudible conversations] >> that's not the legal standard in texas. it's not. jon: all right. we're going to let the attorneys go here. dr. chuck, stick around. john, fred, thank you both. we want to get dr. chuck's view on -- happy easter to you, fred. i want to get dr. chuck's view on a story we talked about last hour. jenna: it's the story of mike anderson, he's a man in missouri sentenced to 13 years for a robbery he committed back in 1999 when he was in his early 20s. he never served the time because of a clerical error. since then he started a business, he got married, he has four kids, he volunteers at his church, and this past july the department of corrections

realized all of a sudden that they made a mistake, and they went and got him and put him in prison. and they say he has to serve for 13 years. so, dr. chuck, last hour we had an attorney on for mike, and he was explaining his case. but i'm curious your point of view on this because we've talked a lot about crime and punishment and what it means for an individual and what it means for a community. you say for this particular individual you say keeping him in prison would be cruel and unusual punishment. why is that? >> because we have a constitution that says that we have as the bill of rights, you know, the right against cruel and unusual punishment. i think it's the eighth amendment. don't quote me on that, because i'm not a lawyer. clearly for 13 years cornelius knew that the law, you know, for all intelligents and purposes was -- intents and purposes was looking for him. it was 13 years, they didn't follow up. it was a clerical error. he got married, started a business, became an upstanding member of his community. he basically reformed himself.

so the whole point of going to prison, well, part of it anyway is reformation, to get the person to be reformed. well, clearly, he's done that. we have the evidence. we know what he did at 23, we know what he's done since then and now at 3w-6 i can't imagine spending a quarter of a million dollars, which is what it would cost in missouri, to put him in jail for that sentence. it's just ludicrous, doesn't make any sense. jenna: a lot of our viewers agree with you. what about the victim in this? yes, he was held up, he held up a burger king manager with his cousin. i'm just thinking about the victim of this crime who was probably very frightened by this and also the message that it sends to the community, dr. chuck. you know, if law enforcement so inept to pull a person who was convicted of a crime into prison and then not have him serve when they do find it or do realize it, then what about the message to the entire community? >> well, jenna, from a psychological standpoint if i

were consulting on this case, i would have recommended a completely different sentence. i've talked to colleagues and friends about this, and they thought the initial sentence, jenna, of 13 years was too much. he had a bb gun. he was wrong, it's against the law to rob someone, but he had a bb gun. that says this is not a sociopath, this is not a psychopath. he could have in st. louis in 2001 gotten his hands on a real handgun with real bullets, but he chose not to. that means that he has a heart, that means he had concern about the welfare of the person, that means he didn't wanto murder them or kill them to take whatever it is he did wind up taking. and that's wrong. i would have said restitution, community service, maybe probation, but i wouldn't imagine sending somebody at 23 to prison for 13 years for holding up a store with a bb gun. jenna: it'll be interesting to see what actually transpires here in this case and what common sense really looks like. i know our viewers have a lot of strong opinions.

dr. chuck, as always, you're at work. friday, you got class? what's going on? >> no, no, this is good friday, and it's good to be on with you, and it's good to be on fox news, you know? that's why i'm here. jenna: it's good to have you on both of those topics. thank you very much. >> thank you. jon: well, forget the networks or major newspapers, white house press secretary jay carney says president obama's toughest interview of 2012 was with the daily show. what does that say about the state of journalism today? and sunday, of course, is easter, time for egg hunts and baskets of candy. we'll tell you about some cool easter records like the biggest chocolate rabbit ever made. and we want to hear about your family's easter traditions. @jonscottfnc or 13-z@jennafnc. we'll read a few of those in just a bit. what if my abdominal pain and cramps end our night before it even starts?

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jenna: a comment by jay carney causing a bit of a stir when he said who gave president obama his toughest interview so far. >> probably the toughest interview he had was with jon stewart. probably the most substantive, challenging interview barack obama had in the election year was with the anchor of "the daily show." jenna: here's one of jon stewart's questions to the president in that interview. >> you started to go a little faster, the questions are going to bit a little tougher. [laughter] how many times a week does biden

show up in a wet bathing suit to a meeting? [laughter] just ballpark figure. >> i had to put out a presidential directive on that. we had to stop it. [laughter] jenna: in all fairness, there were some very serious and tough questions in that interview, but was it really the toughest interview the president has faced specifically when it came to the campaign that he was running? howard kurtz is a fox news analyst, the perfect guy to ask about this. i mean, howard, what do you think about this answer that the toughest interview the president faced was from jon stewart? >> it was, obviously, zack galifianakis who really grilled the president. [laughter] look, if jay carney thinks that was an interrogation, he seems a little disconnected. but to the extent -- and without taking away from jon stewart's interviewing skills because he does have a way of eliciting information, those are basically friendly encounters. and if that was the president's toughest interview, then it says something about the white house strategy of putting him on more often with not just zack, but

ellen degeneres, espn, "the view" as opposed to more tough-minded journalists. he did sit down this week with cbs' major garrett, but those tend to be shorter in tour ration. -- duration. jenna: jay carney was speaking with major garrett at the time, and one wonders what it does say specifically not only about the white house strategy, but just about how the white house views the media and the press in general when they talk about who really is the toughest challenger for them. or does it? >> well, every administration tries to put the president out in settings that will make him appear funny and more of a human being, and, you know, there's more to life than the sunday shows. i understand that. this administration has been particularly aggressive in that regard, and it was in that same conversation, jenna, with major garrett that carney talked again about this being the most transparent administration in history, took a little swipe at fox news which seems to be the default position for the white

house, and, you know, there's a very long list of people at the top i put the executive editor of the new york times who say th administration has done a lot to limit press access in all kinds of ways. jenna: do you think maybe we're just dominating all the monitors at the white house right now, howard, with the amount of time that they mention fox news? i bet that's going to be something you talk about, the transparency issue, coming up this weekend on media buzz? >> going to talk about that, i've gone an interview with bart with getman who won a pulitzer prize on his reporting on nsa spying. ed snowden who was, obviously, such a pawn the other day in that question, that bizarre spectacle with vladimir putin was the source for those stories, also part two of my interview with cheryl atkinson who talks not only about the decline of investigative reporterring, but -- reporting, but how she felt about the mysterious episode where her computers were hacked into while

she was still at cbs. jenna: howard, we're going to have to talk about -- hopefully, i don't indulge in it. [laughter] i guess that's where the line is. look forward to the show as always, howard. thank you very much. just as a reminder, sunday, easter sunday, 11 a.m. time and again at 5 p.m. right here on if fox news channel. speaking of jay carney, jon -- jon: yeah. well, he has been complaining about fox news among -- well, we're primarily his main target of complaint there at the white house. meantime, there is this -- >> and ridiculous stories on fox news and elsewhere about, for example, well, the records show that hillary clinton was only in the white house, you know, five times whereas secretary so and so was there this many times. well, people like hillary clinton and most cabinet secretaries literally get waved in by the secret service. they're not entered into the logs. is secretary clinton, as her successor is, is in the white house every week.

jon: there is jay carney complaining about fox and the white house. so the irony? the white house groundskeepers are trying to catch that little guy you just saw in that shot there. a fox has taken up residence at the white house. this was a photo that was taken in february. they've been trying to catch this guy, and they can't. jenna: so far, huh? he's on the loose. jon: they have been baiting traps with rotten chicken. no joke. [laughter] jenna: not successful though. jon: they have not caught the fox yet. he is still plaguing the white house, and if they can catch him, they're going to take him to a wooded area a few miles away. he is not welcome at the white house. jenna: they have not caught the fox. [laughter] very interesting. sometimes you can't make that stuff up. the news is what it is, jon. jon: the white house groundskeepers have nicknamed him bill o'reilly. no -- [laughter] jenna: actually, that's not true. but we can. i bet bill would appreciate that. billy the fox at the white house. [laughter] okay, we're going to move on

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i won't back down. [cheers and applause] jenna: well, you may remember mayor ford admitting smoking crack last year, and he soyed he would run for re-election which, apparently, he is. city council has stripped him of most of his powers. the election is set for late october, so this is just the beginning. jon: you just can't make this stuff up, can you? right now new concerns of a growing cybersecurity threat. experts say hackers could use the so-called heartbleed bug to create fake web sites and trick people into giving up personal information. adam houseley live from walnut creek, california, with more on that. adam? >> reporter: yeah, one hacker's already been arrested in canada for doing that. that threat's already been there, fake web sites trying to lure you to give information that they could use against you, credit card numbers, that kind

of thing. what this does, what the heartbleed bug does is it allows them to set up even better fakes to gather information potentially from consumers. the best thing you can do as a consumer is to headache sure the web site you go to by looking at the address bar at the top is the right location, even entering it manually if you have to rather than taking a link. experts will tell you most of the mainstream, large web sites are aggressively going after the heartbleed bug. >> a lot of the vendors like shopping sites and banks have gotten really aggressive about patching this, so they don't have the vulnerability anymore. the risk then becomes that if you haven't changed your password since they corrected this bug, then people will still have passwords that will work, and they can log in as you on these sites. >> reporter: and, basically, a patch is a fix. when he's talking about passwords, insure you do that on all your device, not just your computer at home, but also your tablet and phones because if you don't can, that also could

potentially cause problems for you as a consumer. the oh issue is in smaller or middle-sized towns. thousands upon thousands upon thousands of businesses that use web sites for ordering and other types of commerce, they too potentially may not have fixed the heartbleed issue and put a patch or fix in, so you need to contact those that you do use to insure that that has been done. jon, they say this is going to go on for some time as they try to fix this. again, this is a bug, not a virus. the difference is a deficiency, basically, in the way the security was set up on the internet. it was a mistake made rather than a virus where someone creates a program and spreads it from computer to computer. either way, the best way of doing it is to contact each one, jon, and make sure you have new passwords in place and they've put the fix in to keep heartbleed from causing any problems. jon: yeah. and people feel so vulnerable because of something like this. i mean, most of us are not computer programmers, not computer experts. >> reporter: right. jon: adam houseley, thank you. >> reporter: absolutely. jenna: ukraine's future hangs in

the balance now as pro-russian forces show no signs of backing down despite a diplomatic deal to calm the crisis. a live report on that. also, a new medical advance sparking a new debate on ethics. scientists can now clone cells from adults to create embryos, but should they? the doctor is in. ♪ ♪

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jon: right now potential developments in the treatment of alzheimer's and heart disease. scientists cloning adult cells to create embryos for the first time. the advancement raises hope in the medical community while also sparking a few debate about ethics -- a new debate about ethics. dr. david samadi is a member of fox news medical a-team.

so is this pure cloning? i mean, you know, there are techniques that are described as cloning, but they're not really cloning. is that what we have here? >> yes. this is a breakthrough in stem cell research, and it was published in the journal of stem cell just recently, a lot of work from los angeles and massachusetts, and what we're seeing is we're taking an unfertilized egg, they basically took the dna out, and they used some of the donor's dna, put it in this egg, and they let it grow into many cells, and today started cloning it. now when they looked at the dna, it was a perfect match to the donor, and the way that they used that dna to grow more of these cells. why is that important? it's important because in the field of transplant, for example, when we give a kidney or some organ to the patient, you have to give a lot of medications to kind of prevent rejection of that organ. now if we can give the same dna back to patient, you'd basically change the way we practice medicine. it can be used for treatment of

alzheimer's, we can create a whole valve or some sort of mechanics of the heart, so this can potentially change the future of medicine. jon: and if you're not starting with a fertilized egg, you are removing the controversy that entails because many people believe you're destroying a life if you take a fertilized egg and start monkeying with its contents. >> well, that's a very good point. you're right, because a lot of stem cell research has been coming from the embryonic cells. this is not the case. we're not using the fetus or embryos or children's kind of eggs. this is completely an adult cell line, and that's extremely important for people to know, so a lot of the debate may or may not be there. and can also it's a very personalized way of practicing. we're working on your cell line to treat you which is really important. so this is a new research, it's only done in about two patients and two donors, one is about 75, one is about a 35-year-old. obviously, we need more research to really say whether there's

any future for this. jon: yeah. so, for instance, for alzheimer's patients or for people who, you know, need more of a certain kind of cell because their body is killing theirs off or they are losing cells, this might offer a way to replicate those cells in a very quick way? >> well, that would be the way to go. you would get part of the cell line from the brain, for example, develop it into healthier stem cell and reinject it back in order to slow down some of the wear and tear of the brain or some of the cells in the brain that leads to alzheimer's. you can do the same thing, for example, with heart failure. somebody who's had a heart attack, sport of the heart is not -- part of the heart is not working well, you can reingent some of the good cells -- inject some of the good cells in the heart to reduce the number of heart transplants and other organs. exciting research, and we'll see exactly where it's going to go. breaking news. jon: yeah. very, very exciting. dr. david samadi, good to see you. jenna: jon, as families get

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>> hope you're having a great easter weekend ahead. na thank you for joining us today. fox news alert. armed pro russian gunman holding their ground, rejecting an agreement hammered out between the u.s. and russia. >> ukraine's interim government now offer to go meet some of the protester's demands. but the gun men say they will not give up control of government buildings unless top officials resign. leland, what is the latest? >> reporter: it seems president obama's skepticism that this latest deal would bring an end to the crisis was very well placed. the russian separatists have now doubled down on their demands the past 24 hours. a couple hours ago, we visited the russian separatist headqu