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breaking tonight the most powerful democrat in the senate doubling down calling a nevada rancher and his supporters domestic terrorists. demands someone be held accountable for ordering federal agents to provoke an armed standoff. welcome to the kelly file, everyone. tonight, nevada senator hairy reid getting into it on local tv.

allegations that those supporting mr. bundy are, in his view, domestic terrorists. >> senator reid you called mr. bundy and his supporters domestic terrorists what. did you mean by that? >> perplexing since what triggered the pullout? you're privy to intelligence what was that they were doing that would make you call them domestic terrorists? >> a wonderful branch here that i met with them last week. they pay their taxes and pay their fees they follow the law. bundy doesn't believe that they, the american government is valid he believes the united states is a foreign government. he doesn't pay taxes he doesn't follow the law. he doesn't pay his fees. and if anyone thinks that in a

figment of their imagination is what happened is people rallying people, 600 people came in. they had trucks and they knew what they're doing they set up snipers in strategic locations and assault weapons and automatic weapons they based it upon the fact they put women and children, one retired sheriff from arizona close to women and children saying they'd get hit first. so 600 people. if there is an example of domestic terror wanna-bes these are the guys we have a situation i think that

it's untoward. would it be appropriate if jim rogers got behind on taxes, had a problem with the fcc to station around here and people tried to collect taxes or to do something that was in keeping with the law? and surround this place with armed people? of course now. remember, all of the bundy -- there are two valid injunction. get the cattle off the land pay your fees. >> is the bundy family, are they domestic terrorists? >> nobody called bundy domestic terrorists. >> i call patriots. we have a different -- >> when i said if you think they're patriots, they're not f they're patriots, we're in big trouble. >> it's a broad brush you have boy scouts there,

veterans at the event. grandparents at the event. as long as they're not promoting violence in my opinion >> sniper rifles? automatic weapons? that is grandmothers and boy scouts? i hope not. we've got more positive boy scouts. >> i take issue was blm coming in with a military army of people of individuals with snipers and i'm talking to people, groups there at the event to have your own government with sniper lenses on you, it makes people uncomfortable. >> senator reid stokes the fire, senator heller looking for accountability from the feds. >> i would like to have hearings and find out who is accountable for this. someone needs to have accountability on what happened i hear people there answered that question. i want hearings in washington, d.c. on what happened and who

gave orders in order to march in on this. >> dana lash, good to see you. so, senator reid did not agree to hearings he's focused on the so called domestic terrorists. he made the remark yesterday there is a lot of criticism about using that term to describe americans trying to stand up on principle. i've made clear on my personal views as a lawyer on where they stand on the law. today he doubled down and doesn't seem to want accountability for both sides. >> it's amazing me. i think senator reid forgets he's not on the senate floor he's not allowed to engage in slander which he's protected when on the senate floor, to do. there are so many things wrong with what he said in that audio. calling these individuals domestic terrorists?

i spoke with cliven bundy. he told people don't wear camouflage. leave your firearms at home. these individuals did not come out with fully automatic weapons. look at blm. these were grandmother, kids here and ranch hands here is the contract in optics you had 200 agents, helicopters that showed up. you contrast with a number of cowboys on horse back, unarmed with american flag waving in the wind as they bowed and said a prayer before they set met and rounded up the cattle and took them back out to pasture for harry reid to do this, it's reckless. he's trying to incite people. i get the message he's unhappy with a peaceful resolution and outcome. very to question why he's using this, what i call violent rhetoric. >> it's interesting. you raise a good point he was so silent. and now, it's over if he, i

would say, stoking the fires. the father is out there saying domestic terrorists. these are live pictures on the left of the bundy ranch tonight. they're holding this rally tonight. speaking to his point. he raises an issue that does cut against the behavior of the protestors which is their plan according to a sheriff, who was there, and as it was admitted on fox news to put women and children on the front lines of the showdown. he said if feds goring to shoot they're going to shoot women first. that will make feds look bad. to hairy ried's defense that is what has him upset in part about the tactics used. one remark made an idiotic remark. shame on that guy for saying it. it did a disservice to everyone standing out there. now they gave ground to slander the rest of the bundy family. cliven bundy called for peace.

where was harry reid when you had occupiers planning to blow up a bridge in cleveland? i went out there. there is no democrats -- democrats calling occupy movement a wonderful thing. you had individuals stormed one in oakland, one in sacramento, they were doing property damage. you have discussion on domestic terrorism there are no shots fired in nevada they called for peace it's a shame have you a sitting senator who is slandering people and trying to amp up violence >> when it's been avert asked success any averted. >> right. yes. >> good to see you. happy easter. thank you, happy easter. >> what about about that? why is harry reid doing this now that it's pretty much over? mark, good to see you. why? he said nothing as it was going on. it ends, people are happy it ended without violence.

and now, he comes out and uses terms like that? >> it's outrageous. and if you think bit, timothy mcveigh was a domestic terrorist. it's apalling to call them this name. why would harry reid do something like that? a couple reasons one, he's defending obama administration. if people, bundys are domestic terrorists it's not accepted to send 200 paramilitary army of 200 forces to shut them down. so when dean heller says he wants to investigate to do this, he's talking about investigating corny. this is a 35-year-old kid just confirmed many people said he wasn't -- was too young. and not qualified for the job.

then, within the first few weeks he ordered the paramilitary raid on the bundys. so if these guys are domestic terrorists that is not accessive. >> it comes out in the wake of him, of us seeing video of the feds using dogs and tasers. and instead of rounding up cattle, they stand behind people. in the united states of america, so they're on the defensive. >> that is right. i thought america was a first amendment zone but i guess we're wrong about that. there is so much that is wrong. so this is all now coming under scrutiny what. he's trying to do is one defend them, two the

extremists. everybody saying we're the extremists associating themselves as domestic terrorists. he called tea party of anarchists democratic part yes was effective in hurting the tea party and diminishing their credibility. and we're going to talk about it in just a moment. >> thank you. >> just head going live to the nevada ranch a film maker is joining cliven bundy and his supporters. and in this case held up as an example of government try owing to intimidate a critic of the administration. we'll talk to him about it and examine why harry reid is mentioning cliven bunked ease alleged back tax that's are

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legal media editor. chris, good to see you, why sign it into law only to say, like, literally at the same time, this is all about abudi levy. >> once upon a time, megyn, when congress passed a bill and the president signed it into law, it was treated like a law, not a suggestion like president obama did with this. this bill was sponsored by senator cruise with bipartisan support from schumer and passed congress 535-0. this is a president who talked a big talk during campaigns about the importance of following the law, but he simply says he can take it as a suggestion. i mean, this is what the privy counsel does for the king of england. they make suggestions, laws are laws. the president has an obligation to follow the law and not let

this iranian terrorist into the united states. >> what about president bush signed and offered way more signing statements, something like 161 with president bush and only like 29 with president obama. >> there is a big difference. what president bush did is say i'll interpret the law in a way that's consistent with american foreign policy. what president obama is saying, is i'm going to potentially totally ignore the law. there's a huge difference between a reasonable interpretation and a lawless disregard for what congress has done. president obama ran on this in 2008. >> he did. i have the sound byte because i want to viewers to hear out of senator obama's mouth. >> who george bush has been trying to do as part of his effort to accumulate more power in the presidency is he's been saying well, i can basically change what congress passed by

attaching a letter saying i don't agree with this part or i don't agree with that part. i'm going to choose to interpret it this way or that way. that's not part of his power, but this is part of the whole theory of george bush that he can make laws as he's going along. we're not going to use signing statements. >> really? >> yeah, it's totally embarrassing hypocrisy from this president. this isn't about some small matter. this is about an iranian terrorists who participated in the american hostage seizure in the 1970s. the iranians are unrepenting about it. they never paid civil judgments. they are acting rep hencebly. it's not letting this man in the united states that held americans for 444 days. >> many folks have said this is basically a middle you know what

to the united states of america for iran to even appoint this guy but the president did not make clear with his statement tonight, he says he signs it into law but he deems the whole thing advisory but doesn't make clear if he'll physicfollow ther not. they suggests maybe he's not coming in. jay christian adams, great to see you, happy easter. >> you, too, megyn. new twists into the investigation of the ir is and collaboration with other federal agencies targeting the political enemies. joe trippy and his fight.

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breaking tonight, the white house announceriing on good fri another delay on the keystone pipeline. it's facing bipartisan backlash. lawmakers calling it ridiculous and shameful. they say the delay is due to on going legal battles. could push a final determination until after the midterms. the pipeline could support from 4 2,000 jobs. the environmentalists are against it. one woman's fight and the efforts by some on the left to stop her. hersh hersi ali fights abuse to muslim women around the world. this isn't the first sometime she's stood up and come under attack for more than comments that she made right here on the "kelly file". >> as you see on the film and on

the again reel news, there is a lot of violence going on in muslim countries and among muslims in western countries. >> kirsten powers is a fox news political analyst and just wrote a column about this. kirsten, good to see you. you view this as hypocrisy by some on the left to what you learned growing up in a liberal household, the backlash against this woman and her message. >> it's worse than hypocrisy. when you have people on the left, particularly the feminist movement and you hear about it all the time and see how someone like ali is attacked so viciously and look, this issue that happened post recently with brandeis university where they were pressured into revoking the degree is one in many, a long line of attacks against her. they have been trying to

delegitize her for as long as i can remember in a condescending way telling a woman that her life experience, she cannot express an opinion about her experience because western liberals who know nothing about her religion decided they don't like her opinion. >> she can do it but cushion the blow. she has to be diplomatic, otherwise she'll get bad coverage. they want her to be much nicer about, you know, muslims. >> right. >> and about islam, the faction of it that she's grown up in, that she was persecuted under without acknowledging what happened to her. >> and what continues to happen to other women throughout the world. she's a women's rights activists. she's somebody fighting for women who are really oppressed and suffering and complaining that they don't -- and honestly,

there is no way she can say what she thinks in way to accept it but they would like it if she would say it differently. so please speak about your oppression in a way we find acceptable and i think that it's outrageous and when you think about the fact that how christianity, when people criticize christianity and i bring up ann rice who quit christianity. she called the catholic church i'm moral. it was broad brush condemnation of the catholic church, which is her right and i support that. i don't criticize ann rice for that. i wrote a column when it happened and i think she's a lovely and interesting person and has a right to say how she feels and express her frustrations. for some reason, a muslim woman is not afforded that same -- or former muslim. she's not a muslim anymore, is not afforded the same right. >> and we had abraham hooper

ass saying she's a fake muslim. he converted but condemning someone who he says is a fake muslim. she was raised a muslim. she was mutilated, subjected to horrific things and yet, somehow she lost her right to talk about it in the view of some because she's rejected that. >> right, and of course, you'll notice, of course, islam, you know, the leaders of islam are men, right? and they all are able to tell her that she's not allowed to have opinions and talk about this and then these liberal people are enforcing that for them. they are helping enforce that. >> it's supposed to be different here. once you get here, it's supposed to be as we just had earlier ev is supposed to be a free speech zone. krir st s

kirsten, great to see you. we'll ask about the latest controversial remarks and tell you what the folks are wearing on their chest out there tonight and later, the must-see video of this easter weekend.

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cliven bundy is not recognized in the united states. he says the united states is a foreign government. he doesn't pay his taxes. he doesn't pay his fees. he doesn't pay his taxes, doesn't follow the law. >> that's senate majority leader harry reid. he says bundy doesn't pay the grazing fees but doesn't pay his taxes. it's one that cliven bundy rejects and one that got us

wondering how does mr. reid know whether cliven bundy pays taxes or not. the author of 2016 book and joining us from the bundy ranch in nevada. good to see you. we don't know how mr. reid knows that or why he is now so very focused on going after mr. bundy. your thoughts? >> reporter: well, it's a very peculiar situation where you have a cattle man, a rancher and he's being taken on directly from the senator and senate majority leader who is commenting not only about him not paying taxes but in some sense accusing supporters and i'm right among them here today of being domestic terrorists. so the real question i think megyn, i came here as a film maker to see what is going on. we basically see an american clash almost like in the old western movies between the loan rancher on one side and i would

say the dubious or corrupt politician on the other and the question is, who is the real crook? who is fanning the flames. terrorism is when you target innocent civilians and when you call people domestic terrorists, you're almost saying they should be targeted and killed. i think this is irresponsible of harry reid and the people are angry about it. >> i understand they have a statement they are making particularly with respect to mr. reid. what is it? >> reporter: well, a whole bunch of people here have name tags and even little kids have them saying domestic terrorists. when you look at an all american kid with a domestic terrorist sign, you see what is really going on here. i think this is not really about whether mr. bundy paid taxes or not, this is really about the rule of law and whether this administration is enforcing it

even handily or whether or not the obama guys are enforcing the laws they want to enforce and enforce them against the citizens they are against. >> do you see similarities between this case and your own? i mentioned earlier targeted by the feds and you're facing prosecution for campaign donations which many legal analysts said is small potatoes and surprised the feds brought it. >> reporter: quite honestly, my case is going to trial in may and i'm preparing for it. it created in me a sense of vulnerability and sensitivity to these issues of justice, but of course, i didn't have swat teams on me. i wasn't in the sights of snipers, so i feel that these guys here have been facing some real domestic terror from their own government and that's a very scary idea in america. >> thank you. >> reporter: thank you. break tonight, the captain and two crew members in the

deadly south corkorea ferry accident are being arrested. a rescue diver and president and founder of lifeguard systems. butch, thank you for being here. incredible to see him abandon those on board. >> yes, it was. understand he was trying to get off and had not made sure that everyone else was notified it was time to abandon. >> we watched this from so far away and you see the ship sinking progressively. you know, people who don't know anything about diving say to themselves like me, why? what's taking so long? why can't they cut a hole in the side of the ship. why can't the divers get in there and get them out faster? >> the idea of cutting a hole would have taken any air that would be in the vessel and replace it with water. so cutting a hole in the hull would be a really scary thing -- >> even on a part above water? >> the part above water, the rest of the air which was

trapped would have escaped almost immediately. if you watched when the vessel was rolling over, the portholes were blowing water as much as 20 to 30 foot straight up. that would have happened as soon as you cut a hole in the top of the hull, air would be forced out and water would replace it and go down quickly. >> what conditions are the divers facing? >> diving there is difficult. the conditions have been very rough. they are running three to five-foot seas. the visibility is as little as three to four feet, but they also have a current and that current when you say moving water, they are saying the water is moving between two to four knots, that's 200 to 400 foot per unit. the human can't swim against that. top-graded navy seals would be forced like flags along the sides. >> what are the odds of any survivors in 55 degree water temperature? >> there are no survivors. the hull was not designed, the

ship was not designed to be watertight interior. the cabins and so forth on board do not have lockout pressurized doors and if you watch over the hours, they have been banging on the upper hull that was afloat with no response for over 50 hours. >> what a nightmare. the captain delayed the evacuation order. they have real criticisms of the turn and now he's under arrest and the vice principal who escaped alive has hanged himself. >> hanged himself. >> butch, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. two troubling developments involving democrats going after conservative groups. joe trippi weighs in. >> on advice of my counsel i low prices,

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joe, good to see you. let's start with the allegations against representative cummings who is on the house oversight committeeme committee. the suggestion is he was focused on true the vote down in texas and got looked at and the fbi and federal agencies, and that he asked the irs for publicly available information about true the vote, and at the same time, the irs was targeting them, the lawyer for true the vote smells a rat, and believes that the two were cooperating. was there anything wrong with mr. cummings seeking publicly available information? >> i don't think so. the key was he was asking all the documents and e-mails show he asked repeatedly or a few times for publicly available information and only publicly available information, and the other thing that's interesting

about this is that the irs was investigating true the vote way before comings ever asked for public information and only the public. he doesn't ask them where their investigation was or to investigate the group. he just said can you -- he asked, i think, if the tax returns were public information, could he get a copy or something -- >> now that important because he was accused by the lawyer for true the vote, by putting true the vote on the irs' radar screen and denied that and they said his denial spoke to more. in any event, it's important he put them on the i rrrs' radar screen. with the information, joe, what the try the vote says typically when that is done, when the house minority would seek documents like that from the irs, they would let the majority know about it and claim this was done without such communication,

which leads them to suggest foul play was involved. >> yeah, well, unfortunately, look, there is -- as you pointed out, a lot of acramony on this committee. they can't stand each other -- >> they don't like each other. >> they have both accused each other -- cummings accused them of not tipping them off when they were requesting documents and back and forth. that charge may be true. i don't know the answer to it. i'm not surprised at all given how these two guys just don't get along and probably don't share much of anything. >> last question, last question, the polls, the american people still care, joe, they still care. >> sure. i think isa has done a remarkable job as chairman as keeping democrats on the defensive, not just on this but bengha benghazi, just continuing to rattle and keep some issues in

front of the american people. democrats don't like it. you know, i wish he would get on to other things as a lot of my democrat fries do, but it's clear that the polls show that a lot of people want answers still. >> yeah. >> so he's doing a good job of doing that. >> listen, it's easter weekend and good friday and my gift to you and all of the viewers is the next segment we're about to do. my friend, thank you for being here. >> happy easter. >> you, too. >> stay tuned for this. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ cars are driven by people. they're why we innovate. ♪ ♪ they're who we protect.

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now. great to see you. what is it about this video that touched so many people? >> yeah, i think it's people just being able to see the clergy in a very real way. i mean, here is a catholic priest breaking out of the norm and singing a contemporary song and nailing it. >> and personalizing it for the bride and groom. >> listen, i don't know what guys like me are going to do in the future. how are other clergy men going to compare to what father kelly did. it was remarkable. the pressure is on. >> you have to up your game now? >> i have to up my game. >> seriously, i don't know, there is something about this, whether you're a religious person or not, that just makes you feel that special feeling you have when you go into a church or place of worship, which is just connection to your fellow human beings, love and joyfulness. >> right, i think it's the very thing jesus did. jesus came as a regular guy, a carpenter, a worker. he related to the regular

people. the scripture says the common people heard him gladly, in other words, jesus just spoke people's language and that's what father kelly did. >> when you go to church, mass, services, you're looking to feel something. >> yeah. >> he made us feel something. >> absolutely. >> it's not easy to do. >> no, and that's why it really does take a work of god's spirit to make that happen in people's hearts. you can't approach spiritual things on a natural level and expect supernatural results. it takes god's work and clearly he was under god's spirit. >> he's on to something and his third album. he happens to be a singer in his spare time. pastor, great to see you, happy easter. >> thank you, megyn. >> in honor easter, here is our gift from the kelly file to you, the video in full. ♪ ♪

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we hope you feel that same joy and love and connection this weekend. we'll post that on our facebook page. happy passover. happy easter. welcome to the special edition of "hannity" the power of faith. in honor of easter throughout the hour tonight, we'll show you some of the most powerful interviews we've done with some of the most recognizable and influential christian leaders. and we begin tonight with billy graham's sit-down in 2005. since the ministry began, billy graham conducted crusades in 185 countries on six continents and began in 1947 in grand rapids michigan when he was just 29 years old and when i sat down with him in 2005, he performed more than 400. i joined him as he embarked on what was billed at the time as his last crusade.