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i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. for over 18 years we've helped people take care of the things that matter most. join today at angieslist.com . hello, everyone. i'm kimberly guilfoyle along with bob beckle, eric boling, dana perino, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." now, when it comes to deadlines, the obama administration has written the book on delaying them from obamacare to the most recent bunt push being the keystone pipeline decision past the 2014 mid terms. democratic donor tom sire donated to democrats with anti
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keystone positions. debbie wasserman still doesn't see any problem with the delays. >> i want to make sure the right decision is arrived at and the president makes that decision carefully and does not factor politics into his decision. >> meanwhile, jay carney had the gall to claim congressional republicans are to blame for the delay. >> the president has always insisted in wanting the process conducted on the merits. keeping in with past practices with both parties. we've seen actions to insert politics into this. for example, to actually serve the delay the normal process that the state department runs. >> poor thing. they just don't see it. and jay carney is wearing glasses. what is his excuse? it seems pretty obvious, when
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it's to do with the republicans, yes, it's so obvious, the coercion, the undue influence, we don't see it. >> the press secretary job is the second hardest one in washington. i think this is true and for debbie wawser -- waserren man schultz who is the dnc chair woman. let's talk about when this announcement was made. it wasn't made today on monday. it was a press conference called at 2:00 p.m. on friday, not just any friday, but good friday when everybody was going to go home for the weekend. that's a tactic people have used in the past. i know a little bit about that. i don't think it works as well any more with the 24-7 news cycle because here we are on monday still talking about it. the administration owns analyst shows there would be no environmental impact and the jobs would actually increase. what you have is
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environmentalists versus common sense energy policy. the environmentalists won this round. one of the things that was said they want the local legal issues to play out in nebraska before they get involved. that might be persuasive, if they hadn't overstepped local legal decisions in all the other major cases such as immigration is one and gay marriage and sentencing for criminals, all of those decisions are coming from the u.s. department of justice, again their arguments fall short of being persuasive. >> you are giving them what, an f? d minus? >> they didn't pass. >> they didn't pass the test. again, it's pretty couldn't speck u us they are doing this political dumping on a friday. bad form, people. >> it's actually good politics. no matter what debbie wasserman
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shultz says. this is democrat politics at its best or worse, depending on your side. the koch brothers donate, harry reid's head explodes. they are donating to causes that they believe in. meanwhile this joker, tom stier, he's doing the same thing. he's offering $100 million. >> you have no problem with he's doing? >> not at all. do your thing. the senate chamber was held open all nighter so they could appease tom steyer. he's worried about the environment. we're going to have this discussion on global warming, spend the whole nate there, just to get his money. in the meantime, on the other side, it happens on the other side and it's unamerican. the other politics. president obama said we need to wait for the state department's analysis of what is the environmental effect of keystone pipeline.
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they got that a couple of months ago. the state department said there's no environmental impact. the obama administration says let's give it a few more months. we have a few more questions to answer. >> i think they will approve it after the mid terms because i think it will help hillary clinton in the presidential election if president obama takes the hit in the last two years. >> after they get the money from steyer. >> the punt came up short. >> nice sports metaphor. which sport was it? >> it's football. >> it's football. obama punts more than the baltimore ravens. >> what's a helpful little -- >> you came to play. >> we talk about religion and religions of intolerance but
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there's no religion more intolerant than environmentalism. they are willing to sacrifice our ability to become independent for an ideology. they are doing it because it works, if we loosen the screws of the main yaks and build jobs, build our economy, you don't need progressive ideology anymore. it's no longer necessary. it's pointless. he's not a procerastinatprocras. he delays anything to keep the power out of their hand. >> isn't it interesting that we have a poll master stiting at this table, mr. beckle? >> i'm changed positions on it. whoever is in charge of the heat
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in this case, please turn it up. >> i've reversed six years in age. >> is it politics? probably politics. it's the same reason the republicans don't want to talk to about immigration reform. this is nothing new. are you guys kidding me? are you naive coming into this process? it's six months to the election. this pipeline is going to take seven, eight years to build. >> if you don't use the pipeline to bring oil down to houston refinallies, they are going to truck it or rail it. so environmentally, financially, ever single reason to do the xl pipeline economically makes sense except for one, politics. so why politics -- >> just as i said about immigration reform. can i ask you why do you call
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steyer a joker and you don't call the koch brothers jokers. >> i said he has a right to do that but so do the koch. >> the billionaire ping pong has to stop. we get it, everybody has their own billionaire in their corner. what was your example that you brought up? it's not like immigration. it seems like every act that the president is doing is exactly what our adverse ris want him to do. this is about prosperity. he sees it as a negative. that fits in with everything else. immigration, there are a lot of republicans with immigration plans. they are planning on running. rubio talks about it. in this case, this is something that makes the country better. our leader is becoming our cryptonight. he's route -- rooting for the
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things. you could say it would actually hurt the lower classes, the people that lose jobs and a lot of people on the left feel that way. >> there's a point here about the billionaire coming in now. it is right that the amount of money in politics is beginning to impact policy in a way i've never seen it impact policy before, whether it's on the democratic side or the republican side, and it seems to me that when the days were when you had serious policy discussions and you had debates, you weren't depending on wondering what the cash register looked like before you made those decisions. >> how pure of you. >> there's a lot of money coming on the democrat side. we have obamacare, we don't have the xl pipeline. you are winning those battles. >> now he's espousing the hillary clinton in 2016. >> i think this issue, energy
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and environment, rank -- if you look at a lot of polls, bob, please correct me if i am wrong, but i believe environmental issues rank amongst the lowest. on this issue, president obama has beenal independent studies and ones from his own administration that show that the economic impact would be good and that the environmental impact would be neg glibl, not without risk but those could be mitigated and if you have 11 democrat senators who are for it and you have the republicans, the president could actually have an amazing win here and where are the democrats going to go? is turn out in the mid term election so important that the president is going to delay it this much? >> yes. >> a word, risk. what's the risk to approving the xl? just give me a risk. >> i'll give you a risk. in pure politics terms. >> what's the actual risk to america if you approve xl?
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>> i don't know enough about it. i assume it's not a lot of risk. >> if there's no risk and it's going to create jobs, and it's going to bring fuel prices down, why not do it? you no he what they are saying, they are saying there's a risk of spill. i tell you i've spent 20 years in the oil business, there's way more risk of spilling when you are trucking a barrel of oil or putting it on a rail car. you are going to spill a lot more barrels of oil. >> wouldn't it be a way to get 13 million people finally get a way to citizenship? >> you are walking away. the issue is an ideology that rejects energy and hindering our military. great thing is sandra got free pills. we have a president whose priorities and proportions are so off, he will make a personal phone call to guarantee someone gets their pills, but the stuff
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that's less important is people losing their jobs. >> this is not a clear cut political issues, republicans versus democrats. today, the president of north america building trade union, he he said that president obama's decision to delay the keystone pipeline, is a cold hard slap to american workers. >> they certainly don't have key hands in this situation. they are putting ideology -- >> and this is a progressive loss for america, as opposed to the right wing crap we've been putting up for the last two decades. give me a break. >> you just said give me a break. you didn't actually give me any facts. elections matter. you guys won. we have a president who should be running epcot center, not a
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country. >> if anybody believes that that defense budget does not need cuts, you are out of your mind. >> i just met a guy who lost their job. >> a lot of people lose their jobs over a lot of things. >>s his job mattered. >> there is no risk, there is no down side. the only down side is not getting tom steyer hundred million dollars to democrats. america would be much better off. your paycheck would be better. you wouldn't spent as much money on your heating bill. all you go to realize there's no risk to it. >> my life would be better without the koch brothers. >> you are always blaming coke. >> i'm a pepsi man, that's why. >> all right. coming up, democrats are stepping up their smear attacks, bob, on republicans on the mid terms, is that a strategy or
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so stay tuned. when does a pattern start to look like a deliberate strategy? when it's an election year. check out some of the examples that have a few reporters connecting the dots. >> the republican base does have elements that are animated by racism and that's unfortunate. >> i asked a republican friend why his party remains so opposed to extending the vital lifelines for struggling families and really hungry children. what he said was to the republican caucus these people you are talking about are invisible and the republican caucus is indifferent to them. >> they want to open up a new front on the war in women and this one cruelly focuses on poor women. >> these people who hold themselves the same type of abio
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operate in reverse? >> it's inversely proportional without facts. and it's jeenses, because when a scervetive or a libertarian gets angry for being called a racist or bigot, that then becomes proof that you are a racist or a big bot because you are acting
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so angrily. i would call it a race card but that implies there are other cards available to them. it's a race deck. >> that's one of things that some of the reporters are writing back. he says facts, schmack is. >> race card, race deck, somewhere in there there's the card there are the joker. and they are the women. republicans have a war on women as well. >> are you calling women a joke? >> no, i'm not. i'm saying is the deck of race cards, they fly the women's issue. >> what john dickerson said, forget about the facts, as long as my party wins, it's good. you end up with a zero-sum game, and you don't actually achieve
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anything. >> it solves their issue. what are you laughing about? this is the strategy? >> the strategy, republicans, as if they are the bright shining people on the hill. these dogs have been running negative crap for years. being called socialist, commie. you say race, i said -- >> bob, where are your attack ads to show? >> i can't get them. because about to give them something but i have to give them verbally because our producers won't put on any republicans. >> you are 100% right. president obama policies might be a socialist. >> you don't know what the word socialist. don't start throwing race baiting around. let's have an agreement. you drop the word socialist and
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i'll drop the word racist. >> if we're taking one group and giving to another and having this class warfare thing going on, i will agree with you. let's give you the texas republican parties, bros, boats, and hos. the alabama state party said women who are taking care of their children who happen to get on welfare ought to pick up garbage in the streets. >> the hose are about gardening. >> all you got to do is google it. you'll find as many things on the republican side if you google. >> go put google republican attack ads, you'll get the koch
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brothers. you'll get hos and boats. the republican party isn't detainee nice people. >> i wish the republican party was as bad as you guys, because you guys clean our clock. the -- painting somebody as a racist and homophobe has been working forever. that's why you won't let go. >> so has socialism. >> let's just say that everybody here has a point. >> okay. >> is it a short term strategy to try to win a mid term election that actually hurts your long term credibility, for example that a pole that 64% americans believe president obama lies sometimes on important matters. is that a problem? >> a the answer for $1 million is yes. it's awful. looking at the polling, bob. he's got a credibility problem and trust issue with the
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american people. that's a big problem. you can talk about hos and boats. >> the red neck congressman called the president a liar during the state of the union speech. >> that's three years ago, bob. >> that criticism that you are discussing, whether it's about ideology or about honesty. those are things you can argue. when you are called a racist or homophobe that prevents debate. with the socialist aspect, you can actually debate that and go show me where. >> let me respond to you about the racist thing. when you talk about the number of democrats who have used that, there have been some -- there certainly have been some, but it is no means a reflection of the entire democratic party. >> when harry reid called cliven
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bundy and anybody that supported him, domestic terrorists, that is what we're talking about in this block. they take it one step too far you don't end up talking about the fact that the federal government and relationship with the states in the west is out of whack and needs reform. you end up talking about how american patriots, whether they are or not, domestic terrorists. >> my point here is you can't take and selectively clips out there and say that that it represents the entire democratic party but it does not. >> did you read the article, though, that talked about reporters in washington who are connecting the dots, oh, i see, this is the pattern. you say it here, she says it there and he says it there. it becomes the new narrative. >> to be honest, they have been reaching into the bag and pulling out the same driver every time. we're talking about strategies that they have been been using and the rhetoric that they have been using pretty consistently
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as of late. that's why there are so many examples of it. >> let me suck my thumb for a second. >> please do. [ multiple people speaking ] >> bob does have a point. we did say that obama was a liar about two minutes ago and then we said we didn't say it. >> thanks, ombudsman. >> he hasn't said i made a mistake. no one else is denouncing harry reid's comments. someone should. >> here's something you can guarantee a beginning of a great week on "the five." ahead, two holidays of very different kinds collided yesterday. easter and weedster. next. ♪
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♪ yesterday was the easter the hoilliest day of the christian calendar. there was no mention on the denver newspaper. headline on the front page, welcome to weed country. dana, i'm going to start with you, your beloved denver. the cover of the post. the red rock.
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>> my niece who use to live there, we used to go to the sunrise services, now it's snoop dogg. >> i'm not crying. >> are you hungry? >> no. no. i think pot is good for business. it's good for the media. meaning we keep talking about it. people are buying pot. people are smoking pot. i was in mondtreal over the weekend, people were smoking around. i think it's interesting that people are so desperate for it they have to smoke it all the time. >> this was the first year it was legal, right and is it eventually to become not cool to get high? >> i'm hoping, because as you know i'm more decriminalization. the weakness for the dope smoker is the shallow idiocy. they got to get over the novelty
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of pot smoking. like i like wine, i don't walk around with a boling of wine. it's not achievement to get high. it's not achieve to be giggling to yourself. stuff like this whether it's pot or martinis. wait till your 40 to enjoy your dope. if you do it now, you are going nowhere. >> you can be pro decriminal investigation of -- decriminalization. >> for me, my personal choice, what i think is medicinal marijuana, to help cancer patients, fine. i'm not for the legalization of marijuana. >> decriminalize it. >> depending on amounts, it's different if it's personal use versus someone who is trafficking or selling in large
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quantities, you are breaking the law. i don't give you a pass. >> bobby, i know you want to weigh in. take a look at this ad. it might make your head explode. >> jesus smoking a joint. >> the thing that bawrs -- bothers me about denver, leaving aside i was at a sunrise service on sunday morning. there wasn't any dope there. this is a way to perform. as greg was pointing out. this is not about the use of marijuana as a way to get high. it's bringing it out into street theater, bringing attention to yourself. a hundred thousand people take a hit, see if they can get a big marijuana cloud over the city. that thing with jesus has just gone over the top. whoever put that out should be -- i don't know if there's a law against that, but i mean that is just, on easter sunday
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come on. >> you don't want a law against that. that's the point. you got to remind yourself that they use jesus and not mohammed. that says more about christianity than it does -- because know they can do it. it says a lot about the fact that we're that's stupid but we're not going to kill you. >> can i bring kg here one more time? they are not supposed to smoke pot in public. they got $150 in citations. >> i don't want to watch around in a cheech and chong haze. if you are going to do it, go do it in your personal -- it's sort of like bragging and trying to be cool. >> i'm telling you, you could see it now, all of a sudden, everybody is hyped it's going to be a great 4-20. everybody in the post was like eh? >> they made a big deal about this.
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they wanted people back at their house. celebrate smoking dope, but do it at your house. >> there's a guy who said that this is -- i understand that they are celebrating a public policy victory, right, and so they are taking a victory lap and smoking dope and maybe by next year it won't be that interesting. >> it will be like after prohibition fgs repealed, there was a lot of celebration, and then it was back to no big deal. >> we're going to leave it right there. in case, you haven't checked the calendar, it's earth day tomorrow. if you are confused how to celebrate, greg has some great advice when "the five" returns. ♪ [ banker ] sydney needed some financial guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. so we talked about her options. her valuable assets were staying. and selling her car wouldn't fly. we helped sydney manage her debt and prioritize her goals, so she could really turn up the volume on her dreams
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like you and am confused. earth day is that still a thing? it's like turning on a tv and seeing piers morgan. isn't that nightmare finally over? earth day, becomes meaningly. earth day is no more a good deed for earth than fondling a cactus. take the recent earth hour where world cities went black. it masks the real tragedies plaguing the world. people don't plague the world. without access, they burn horrible stuff. not to safe the deprived but to soothe the eeg goes of the lucky and self-important as they enjoy the fruits of the injuries that they often condemn.
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when they are done, they run back to their ipads. trapgs is never evil if you are going somewhere cool and earth day is your ticket out. as you ignore the planet's real victims, you've done your part making the earth all about you. >> how do you plan to spend your earth day and jasper, does he even care? >> those two things are like pea nut and butter and chocolate. the number two thing that you could do on earth day, you could take your dog for a walk. and look at the example. it was a good thing he came on here. >> the one thing a dog can do on earth day is number two. >> yes, and you got to pick it up. >> i don't. i just kick it into a bush. >> earth day was like a
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religious holiday for some. with economic prosperity, as we have cleaned up our act all around the country. we celebrate earth day every day. it doesn't matter if you are republican or democrat. >> we certainly do. eric, shouldn't we have a people day okay? the earth is okay, but people are awesome. >> greg, it's an annual event in our house. i spark up the 90,000 btu barbecue or cook some steaks. hundreds of billions of tax revenues and the lifeblood of the most powerful economy on earth day. >> is that directed to me? let me say something. i'm sorry. >> should be at one with nature and frolic nude through central park. >> that would be the antithesis
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of earth day. what came out of earth day was a consciousness about what was going wrong with what we were doing in polluting the air and the water and what came out of that was the clean air and clean water act which were two very important pieces of legislation that both democrats and republicans can rally around. earth day is a symbolic day today maybe, but it had an important moment in the early 70s when we were moving very rapidly toward destroying our planet that we couldn't reverse it and we did, in the united states at least. >> that led to the passage of the clean water act, clean air and endangered species act. he's made an impact. he got the presidential award for that. >> i submit that the environmental protection agency, a lot of people was brought into law and signed by richard nixon.
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when -- when -- which you said nixon couldn't get a republican nomination today and that is true. >> wee got to take a break. british prime minister david cameron is under attack by daring to call his country a christian nation. bob will tell you all about it coming up. [announcer] play close-good and close. help keep teeth clean and breath fresh with beneful healthy smile food. with special crunchy kibbles and great taste, it's a happy way to a healthy smile. beneful healthy smile food and snacks. smoke? nah, i'm good. [ male announcer ] celebrate every win with nicoderm cq, the unique patch with time release smartcontrol technology that helps prevent the urge to smoke all day long. help prevent your cravings with nicoderm cq.
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♪ this is what happens when you stand up for christianity. the second cue lar will go after you. dozen of figures in great britain have signed criticism. we object to his characterization that britain is a christian country. polls studies show that most of us as individuals are not christian in our beliefs to claim otherwise fosters a lee nation and division in our society. bunk. the fact is england is a christian nation. for david cameron what he was
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talking about, he was talking about the persecution of christians around the world, one of the reasons these guys are saying in england now, let's be honest, you have an influx of muslims and you don't want them upset. it is a christian country and it is not a muslim country. sorry, go ahead. >> you know, i agree with you, and i do think that's motivation, the pc police in the uk are coming out saying -- i don't know what percentage of people in the uk ascribe to christianity. >> a vast majority. >> in this country as well. somewhere 80 plus percent would call themselves one form of christian believers. what they do here instead, they say it's not constitutional. you have to separate church and state and they rely on for the basis of their argument. >> the bottom line bob is actually right -- kind of --
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>> what a revelation. >> christianity is actually losing ground to islam in the uk, and they are concerned, you are right, they are concerned about terrorist threats, acts of radical violence in the uk. they have even more alarming problem and concern about it than we do in this country. >> dana, the muslim countries are very quick to declare themselves muslim countries. england in fact is a christian country. why should they be allowed theirs a muslim country and cameron call theirs a christian country. >> a lot of those groups have found a way to exploit a double standard. what he was doing was appealing to a narrow base, i think it's important, but let's not pretend that aren't any politics at play here. the queen of england is the head of the church of england. she's crowned by the arch bishop
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of canterbury. the christianity part of the royal family is not what they are leading with, but it is a fact that england is a christian nation, which actually means it's more tolerant in a lot of different religions can live peacefully and coe existent and they have. >> i felt it to be a fairly ago gnostic place. the second cue lar critics were saying let's not lose our heads over that. >> i've got a big neck. one more thing is up next. ♪
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all right. well time now for one more thing. >> one more thing. >> really, you have just forfeited your time. sorry. >> chicago teachers unit kbron president -- union president karen lewis joking about gun violence in chicago, take a listen. >> we still cannot continue along the lines, where we give up our pensions willing ly because they are offering false choices. take this cut or nothing. that's not a choice. that's not a choice.
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that's where you are going to shoot me here or here. i'm still shot. [ laughter ] >> this is chicago. >> you know why else that's not funny. nine people were shot dead this week in chicago. dozens others were injured. chicago, the no-handgun zone. not funny at all. >> i agree. professional boxer reuben hurricane carter died on sunday. he was in prison for 19 years for a mur he did -- for a murder he did not committee. >> 20 years i spent locked up in a cage, considered danger to society, and not treated like a human being. not treated like a person. counted 15 times a day. i served my time in a house of
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justice and yet there's no justice for me. >> that's a powerful movie. >> rub inhurricane carter was a great boxer, middle weight champion. he went and spent 19 years in jail despite the fact that two of the witnesses recanted their testimony. he was not guilty and this was an absolutely horrible situation. i only wish his family well. >> he really was. i love boxing. it was my nickname at the da's office, hurricane. >> you drank a lot of hurricanes. >> greg. >> i had a great weekend. friday. i spoke at the reagan ranch. it's a beautiful place, and the next day i was at the nixon library which was pretty awesome. spoke there. then i saw my wonderful mother on easter and she's doing okay.
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thes giving the five. and that's it. >> very nice. we saw some royal video and i know that greg just joins me in the queen a happy, happy birthday. she's joined the double 8 club. she took over head of state duties when she was 25 years old. youngsters think about what you are doing when you are 25 years of age. >> oh, yeah, we have royalty here. >> by the way, she's been head of state 62 years, only exceeded by her great-great grandmother, queen victoria . i think she's going to pass her. >> beautiful portrait of her. i like that photograph. >> i have something that no one else has yet. these are george h.w. bush socks. 41. he love his colorful socks. gop is doing a fund-raiser for these.
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gop.com/bush socks. >> can i wear those? i want to put them on. i want to put them on in the late chair. don't forget to set your dvrs, so you never miss an episode "the five." chaos and confusion over his foreign policy, has one mainstream columnist questioning president obama's manhood. this is "special report." good evening, i'm shannon bream, in for bret baier. it is getting very personal now for president obama, on top of problems like the terror attack on libya and iran's nukes, today what appears to be a chemical strike in syria and more trouble with russia and ukraine, all of that has the president's supporters blasting his foreign policy. one "new york times" comment tater is taking a big

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