the ramseys will be in the after the show show with elisabeth hasselbeck. >> yeah. talking smart kids and smart money. tomorrow will be a great day. cheryl casone, child star veterans. bill: vice president joe biden in kiev announcing $50 million in aid for ukraine and telling moscow, quote, it's time to stop talking and acting. what does that mean? brand-new fox polling showing obamacare will have a major impact on voters come november. 73 per se the candidate's position on the law will be

important and 19% say the most critical factor. martha: the mid-terms are inching closer. despite the democrats saying they won't be a fallout to the healthcare law, the polling says otherwise. bill: the polling itself-evident. >> it tells me president obama's advice last week that democrats should campaign on obamacare is not the best advice in the world. in the all important red states and swing states it does not look like a very good idea because the majority of americans don't like this law.

they want politicians to fix it or repeal it. bill: among independents, they are asked a question, a candidate, if you were faced with a chase with a candidate whether they voted for obamacare or not. 54 per se they will want somebody who will fight against the law. that's along independent with a 25% margin. >> the rule of thumb in pop particular is independent are all important because the two parties cancel each other out. a lot of tea party types are calling themselves independents. but this is still a big number. what the poll also shows is the intensity is on the anti-obamacare side. it's much more important to opponents of obamacare that the politicians fight it. and that is a big deal -- the

mid-terms will be all about turnout. bill: healthcare experience is an entirely different matter. >> a lot of these numbers from abstract. these are the tools we have to analyze. the reality is obamacare in all sorts of ways is happening on the ground. companies are react together it. employers and employees are losing their healthcare plans. the lived experience of human beings matters more than the polling and that will play out the next 7 months and it will affect things. unlike more abstract issues like abortion and that kind of stuff which is real but it doesn't affect every single human being in every single way. it doesn't matter how much spin the republicans or obama put on it, if people are experiencing something negative it will affect how they vote.

talk to you real soon. jonah goldberg leading our coverage. >> tax day 2014 is now in the books for everybody. a new report shows revenue, the money the government took in from the taxpayer is at an all-time record high. uncle sam brought in $1.4 trillion. even with all that cash you have still do the that number to deal with. it climbed to $17 trillion dollars. stuart that didn't seem to make sense, does it? >> reporter: no it doesn't make sense until you look closely at the numbers. that amount of money that came into the trialan, $1.4 trillion. that money came in from federal

income taxes. if you look at the money going out, how come we are spending so much compared to that record amount coming in? the answer is i am tell. if you add together the amount of the money going out from the stress bring from social security, medicare and medicaid, you have got $900 billion. throw in $100 billion for interest on the debt and $200 billion for tax refund. that means you have only got $300 billion left to run the entire government, the military included. the answer to your question is how come we have so much coming in but we still have a deficit, the answer is the failure to control runaway entitlements. martha: when you look at that pie, it's an he norm as piece of

that pie. it never seems to actually happen. then we hear from the president, look, if you have done well, you should kick in a little bit more. but the folks at the top -- the biggest contributors to that number. >> reporter: you are right in both counts. he wants to take more money out of the economy. on the other side of the coin there is no enthusiasm on either side of the aisle for serious reform. but that is the big problem, entitlements is where' of the money is going out. $900 billion for earn titlements, $200 billion for interest. martha: and checks going to

people who are no longer with us. stuart, thank you very much. we'll see you next time. bill: the supreme court taking up a case that could dramatically change the way you watch television. the battle hitting our broadcasters including fox. it gives subscribers to tv access over the internet but toss not pay the broadcast evident. broadcasters say that's theft and simple. earks reo says it's not stealing. it's -- aereo says it's not stealing. it's using allege even 10a in a new way. martha: discussions to drop u.s. troop levels to below 10,000, maybe even 5,000 while a

security status remains in limbo. it's a here we go again. steve centanni is live in washington. tell us what you are hearing on this this morning. >> reporter: no decision has been made but discussions are under way. troop levels could drop well believe 5,000. all of this part of an ongoing discussion inside the obama white house and the pentagon. the 5,000 number with reflect a judgment that afghan forces are up to the task of providing their own security. commanders say we need to leave a sizable force in afghanistan after the end of the current mission this year. >> we believe it many vitally important that we have a force that remains in afghanistan. there is nothing that shows commitment like having people on the ground every day and i think

that provide confidence not on to the military, but confidence to the military leaders that we are going to stand behind them as they continue to improve. and i think that's important. >> reporter: the house armed services chairman says there is no viable option below 10,000 that would guarantee an enduring mission in afghanistan. martha: what does this mean for the ongoing vote count there? reporter: the count continues and we may not know hot next president is for months if there are runoff agreements. they say they will sign an agreement with the u.s. for a continuing troop presence. but until that is signed the mission is up in the air. outgoing president karzai was blocking a u.s. presence. martha: steve, thank you.

bill: good to be back with you in person. hope you had a great easter. martha: hope you had a good time in boston. bill: it was brilliant. gunshots ring out in a court. tough talk for russia. bill: there are questions on a teen shoa -- teen stowaway *. how he survived a flight in a wheel well of a jet.

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at a utah courthouse. the man rushed the witness stand threatening to attack the person on the stand with a pen or pencil. >> people were yelling at him to stop but he didn't stop. he kept going forward. >> when he was on the ground it looked like he got shot four times on the ground. martha: the defendant was rushed to the hospital where he later died. he was accused of assault, conspiracy and weapons charges. bill: major headlines. tough talks with the vice president joe biden traveling in kiev. warning russia it's time to stop talk and work to reduce tensions in ukraine. he also called russia's a russis

annexation of crimea illegal. >> no nation has right to grab land from another right. and we'll never recognize russia's illegal annexation of crimea and neither will the world. bill: senator john mccain was in ukraine a week ago. we'll never recognize a russian crimea, neither will the world. >> what he said, it's time to act and not have rhetoric. why don't we act? why don't we sanction some more people. why don't we say we have a plan to give them energy independence. why don't we give them defensive weapons. we agreed to give them to mres, some meals ready to eat, and this administration would

not fly them in on' u.s. had to be driven in civilian trucks because they didn't want to and tag nice -- it's bizarre. bill: it would seem protectionist on our side. we pledged $50 million to ukraine which goes on top of the other thing we have given them? en that a sign they are moving closer to a partnership? >> they have had their country dismembered. we have trooped all or the eastern part of ukraine. we have troops, 40 newark massed on the russian side of the border and vladimir putin is calculating what the cost benefit is. so we are begging him to come

around and negotiate and talk and he just moves steadily on. it's disgraceful and the rhetoric does not match the action. 11 people have been sanged in one bank. bill: you had pictures of the russian special ops. i'm sure that didn't surprise you. what is putin's calculation? >> his calculation as he has said, i said the worst thing that happened in the 20th century was the breakup of the soviet union. he wants to restore that. ukraine and crimea with an important part of that because of the sevastopol military base. >> lavrov and putin say they are

acting provocatively, they better stop them. there is a huge disconnect. bill: it's as if we are dipping our toe in the water but not getting fully subject morninged. dick durbin -- we are getting fully submerged. dick durbin supports your position to give light arms to the ukrainian military. i assume he passes that word to president obama, then what? >> this president does not believe in american exceptionalism, america's role leading the world. that doesn't mean we should have boots on ought ground everywhere or anywhere. but we have to understand that vladimir putin will take whatever he can get while we are saying oh, gee, going to geneva, geneva is a metaphor for do

nothing. we have to go to geneva again and talk about this while the russians consolidate their position in eastern ukraine. and the ukrainian government has great difficulty getting their economy in order and getting an imf loan, getting all the thing they need to get their country going. >> bill: thing dissolved quickly the past 12 months. why is the move on crimea so critical to the united states. >> if you let him do that and get away with it, then he is encouraged. these kind of people are always encouraged. back in the 1940s when hitler went further and further. i'm not predicting world war iii. if putin thinks the price he pays for absorbing part of a country is 11 persons sanctioned

and one bank. he sanctioned me. >> john brennan was in kiev a week ago, i don't know what that was about. but what you are describing here is a scenario where putin senses weakness and when he does he capitalizes. >> he senses weakness and there is weakness. i cannot believe what we are doing. i cannot believe 150,000 people have been massacred in syria. 1 million refugees in lebanon. the can chinese defense minister said the east china sea is ours. you see these people taking advantage of us. ronald reagan said peace through strength. that's the way you achieve it. bill: welcome home. martha: an elder statesman of the republican party weighing in

on the possible 2016 field. former presidential candidate bob dole says ted cruz and rand paul don't have the experience to run for the white house. is he right? bill: shocking authorities against two prep school graduates. what authorities say they were doing. >> this was not a game. these people were in business to make money. they were going to do whatever they needed to do to make sure no one threatened their business. you, my friend are a master of diversification. who would have thought three cheese lasagna would go with chocolate cake and ceviche? the same guy who thought that small caps and bond funds would go with a merging markets. it's a masterpiece. thanks. clearly you are type e. you made it phil. welcome home. now what's our strategy with the fondue? diversifying your portfolio? e*trade gives you the tools and resources to get it right.

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bill: the death toll on that ferry sinking in south korea is rising. 108 found dead and over 200

still mission. the captain and two other crew members are charges and awaiting trial in south korea. marthakorea.march this the obama administration refused to allow the iranian ambassador into the country because of his role in the 1970s hostage crisis. >> reporter: iran will go to the u.n. committee and that panel includes cuba, china, and russia as its members and tehran wants it to help it reverse the u.s. ban. obama signed the legislation that bars him from entering the

u.s. he's also accused of being part of a 1993 assassination of a iranian. the ambassador told fox news that the allegation is nonsense and he should be iran's new u.n. ambassador. the united nations has responsibilities and in order to protect its credibility it should try to convince the host government to keep its commitments. >> reporter: the new law bars anyone with terrorism ties to be

barred from entry into the u. -- s. the. >> the united states must reject it and telling them you can have elected officials and appoint diplomats, but not terror masters. >> reporter: legal experts say it's doubtful that panel can ultimately overrule the white house decision. bill: there is a fresh round of scepticism after a teenager stowed away in the wheel of a commercial jetliner. how did a 16-year-old survive 70 degree below zero? we'll look at that, a doctor and pilot coming up. one former presidential candidate has called him an extreme right winger.

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he will meet with the victims and first responders. peter doocy is with us live. what is first on the schedule today? >> reporter: the first thing is for the president to go and see how horrible that mudslide one month ago today that killed 41 people really was. but he's not going just be seeing the damage. reports on the ground are the entire area smells like sewage and it's litters with the splinters remains of homes, cars and toys. there are still 2 people mission. rescue crews are using dogs to inspect the area. we'll hear from the president later on this afternoon during a visit to a firehouse in washington state. bill: how involved has the federal government glen this

recovery effort? report report very involved. fema chipped in $13 million. the labor' department, $15 million. the president sign sad disaster declaration. $53 million is a good guess how' it will cost when all is said and done. almost 100 agencies are involved. look ahead the people in the affected area are not in the clear. in a digs to all those who lost loved ones, many lost their homes. state road 530 is completely blocked and officials are worried about flooding because the river that runs through the area is 10 feet higher than it should be. martha: former republican can't

bob dole is weighing in on three his party's top senators saying quote, a number of our younger members, first termers like rand paul, marco rubio and that extreme rig guy ted cruz all running for president. i don't think they have got enough experience yet, he said. rich lowry is the editor of the national review and fox news contributor. is he right? >> i can't say bob dole has his finger on the pulse of the contemporary republican party. the thing about experience in the senate is overrated. i think you can make a case the more time you spend in the senate the worse you are as a presidential candidate. you are more self-impressed. bob dole wasn't a great candidate, john kerry, john mccain, you can go on and on.

martha: barack obama didn't spend a lot of time in the senate and he was able to go on. >> i think relationship is right, i think bob dole is a man who is out of touch with where the new republican party is going. it is true he's quick to jump on those on the right of the republican party like cruz and rand paul. but i think what he's starting to see is that's a constituency he didn't have to deal with as much when he ran. and they made inroad. when i first heard he was going to be here i thought i have got another nut. but he turned out to be a serious guy. he went to howard university. republicans never go to back forums. i always hear them cry and moan about how 97% of the blacks vote for democrats.

he went there and laid out his case. rubio has come up with some interesting thoughts and ted cruz who did get on the border of getting into the buffoonery category has started to reconstruct himself. i think at least two of them will run. martha: you look at bob dole, john mccain and others who were in the moderate section of the republican thinking pattern, none of them won. that continues to be that conversation about where is the winning -- chris christie argues he's a guy who can occupy that middle ground and win, rich. >> there is this game whoever is the hot new thing in conservative politic is extreme. ronald reagan used to be extreme. now we look back and say he's an honored statesman.

people used to say bob dole is extreme. all these guys are ideologues in the best sense of the world. rand paul is a creative and thoughtful guy. this week he's out in detroit, makedetroit -- -- detroit, milwaukee, talking about school choit. martha: do you think the field is open? >> it's open also there is a difference here. ronald reagan was a conservative who was able to bridge his command of do no ill to another republican. and he had a commanding presence because he had run before and he had been governor for two terms in california. these guys will have to get their bona fides enough with that segment of the republican party, christie talks about --

christie's problem is he has to be able to relight to the right d b -- hehas to be able to relae right of the republican party. rand palms idea about detroit, it's an interesting scenario. martha: bob dole made a comment after the last election and said the republican party needs to be closed for business. i think he was talking about a lack of outreach to women and latinos and women who weren't being reached. you look at these gentlemen and ask can any of them fill the gaps? >> these are all new voices. after 2008 you had an exhausted republican party that was burned to the ground. now you have the new trees growing in the forest. all these guys are up there,

slightly different. march corubio is win some d -- o is wi winsom. >> the key to the republican party the question is how do you relate to hispanics? his brother got 45% of the vote. he's married to a hispanic. he's the one we fear the most. march already i ran out of time and i didn't get to elizabeth warren yet. do you think she is running? she swear she is not. a whole book out, the whole bit. >> absolutely not. the clinton people had that discussion and that's where i'm going to leave it. i'll leave it right there.

martha: more fodder for another day. guy, good to have you, bob. bill: bob will let that marinate. checking the markets. wall street investors react, the dow closing at 1,449 monday. keep an eye on the markets. we are up so far, 27 points. martha: drone strikes take out terrorists in yemen but will they soon be patrolling the skies above your home? bill: the stowaway that made a miracle trip across the pacific raising a few eyebrows. can a human being survive negative 37 degree at 35,000 feet and do it for several hours. >> there is a lot of surveillance videos to review.

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martha: two graduates of a prestigious school accused of running a drug ring. they say they used their sports connections even hiring student to help wit with the operation. >> their goal was to as a distribution to the high schools in the area. martha: police seized guns, drugs and thousands of dollars. bill: a teenager's trip across the pacific. he's 1 years old. after hopping a fence in the

airport in san jose, california which is its own issue. then hugging a plane's landing gear including high sub-zero temperatures and wake up in maui. was his trip a miracle or a hoax. doctor, thanks for your time today. let's get to the health issue in a moment. but first to the aviation side. good morning to you. it's been done before. i don't know if it's been done at 38,000 feet for 5 and a half hours. have you ever head a case like this? who not for this lengths of time at this altitude. we are talk about 80 degrees below zero. you have hydraulic heat and heat

from the tires at the initial stages of the flight. but 5 1/2 hours it's all cooled down. bill: you believe his story? >> not particularly. it's either a miracle or a hoax. bill: you mention the tires and they generate heat and tuck underneath. but i don't know if it's enough to keep you alive. if you are in the wheel of a jet can you get to another compartment from there? is it even possible? >> there is a small shelf inside the main landing gear a 767. but if he was asleep you would have to believe he came off that shelf on landing or final approach when the wheels came down. it's so cold in there we don't even put air in those tires. they put nitrogen because any moisture will freeze. bill: let's take it a at face value.

we have no reason to believe he was making this story up. how would you survive? >> i don't think it's miracle that we could pre-reproduce. it's possible he went into a pored hibernation where your body cooled down and at those low temperatures you don't need as much oxygen. there is still so much that happened. because he didn't have much joks general. he didn't develop frostbite which is the first thing i would think about, and he didn't have symptoms from the rapid changes in pressure and temperature. when we do this in the hospital we rewarm people pretty slowly. bill: are you suggesting it is possible or not. >> i believe he did it but i would have said something didn't a few days ago. bill: when he got off the plane was staggering, he wasn't quite sure where he was.

that would make sense. >> that's why i believe him. he said he was asleep when he was in the wheel well. that's the first thing that would happen. you get fatigued and you can fall asleep and slip into a coma and die. the sleeping on the flight makes sense and the fact he was so confused when he landed goes along with his story. bill: this another issue. this is the airport in san jose. they have surveillance cameras, german shepherds, officers riding segways. this guy climbs a fence. this is a major breach of security. >> we have airports that look like armed security camps and we still come up with these breaches. and the fact you are not charge this kid. you have got to set an example that deters other people from doing the the same thing.

he's 15 years old. he would be charged as a juvenile in california. their law is up until 18. there is no reason to at least not make a spectacle of the legal side of this saying he did wrong and he's going to be held accountable at least to some extent. bill: and the airport has to answer some questions. thank you,al. it's good to have you back with us. we'll speak again. martha: new develop 789s when it comes to using drones. the big announcement from the faa. bill: how is this for the catch of the day. the fishinger hemen who reeled in an 800-pound shark. guess what he did with that thing. we'll tell you. [♪] i've always kept my eye on her...

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>> reporter: we have an exclusive look inside one of those drone spaces. in this demonstration this drone has been programs to follow of move this robot vehicle makes without any input from humans'. companies like amazon, dhl and dominoes pizza are exploring making deliveries with drones. while that may be a few years off. the university president says the drones are coming. >> i believe they will be a big part of our future. not in the ways you see in the ads. but i think he will be a part of our future. >> reporter: the researchers say the first commercial application of drones would be crop surveys, checking oil pipe lines for leaks and not delivering pizza, at least not

just yet. martha: what are the concerns about this? >> reporter: according to the faa there are 7,000 aircraft in operation at any given time. they would need to work autonomously and they would need avoid sensitivities. researchers say there is a lot of work to do before drones are ready for prime time. >> the technology is there. the problem is how are we going to coordinate all these things in the air. it's not an easy task. >> reporter: researchers believe the growth of drones will be like the growth of cell phones. everyone will want one. martha: we'll have to be ducking

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vice president jai joe joe -- the vice president is in russia delivering a warning saying we need to stop talking and start acting. john bolton is here to talk about if he thinks the words

will do anything. and first, new fallout over the keystone pipeline. you have a top labor leader calling the president quote gutless. welcome. i am martha maccallum. >> and i will bill hemmer. the membership says the president's decision to delay this pipeline is political. >> tucker carlson is here. good morning, tucker. he called the president gutless and said this whole move of delaying the keystone pipeline was a low blow to the working men and women of our country. interesting words from a big union. >> a union that is very close to the democratic party and close to the clintons and democrats

decades and decades. his true base isn't the working people that the labor union represents. canada is for thiss well. his group is a tiny group of donors in new york who are pressuring him not to approve this pipeline and in the end he is listening to them over the people he claims to represent. >> tom stayer seems to be pulling important swings in washington. he grouped these people saying they are the same people opposing minimum wage, health care, and protecting the right of working people to organize which is interesting because the unions are in favor. is there a growing divide in the democratic party?

>> star is right. people by and large who are for the pipeline are not democrats. that makes it more striking that this union and others have broken with the white house over this. it is a really clear divide. this pipeline means jobs. this oil is moving out of canada, pipeline or not. by truck, rail or pipeline and what is the least destruction way of moving it? the pipeline. the president wants to raise money for a presidential library and in doing that he has been told according to reporting i have done that they will not go ahead with the library if he gives to the keystone pipeline.

>> when you look at what is in the work in terms of jobs, union loyalty, breaking a divide between the unions and democratic party that could affect the eelectricerate. and when you combine this with health care because the unions are rattling the feathers over health care. they are saying we no longer have a work week that it was supposed to be so you have a double whammy. >> the democratic base is changing out from under us. the average democratic voter isn't a 45-year-old high school labor union. they are a 36-year-old single women who lives in newton,

massachusetts with a masters degree. it is very different demographic than it used to be. >> thanks, tucker. >> troubling reports that south korea is building another nu nuclear weapon test site. >> reporter: the activity is similar to the preppations carried out before north korea's last nuclear test. the placement of a large screen over a tunnel at the entrance of the nuclear site and that might be designed to make it more difficult for united states and other satellites to see what is

going on. south korea implemented an emergency task force and the united states stepped up surveillance. north korea maybe seeking attention and looking to make a point as the president arrives in the region. he is visiting japan and south korea and they will talk about how to manage the perceived threat from north korea. >> when they go forward, because they have done all of the technical preparations necessary. i think this could be soon. if it occurs while the president is in the region and worse if they do it while he is in south korea than we know they do disrespect the united states. >> any nuclear testing would bring tougher sanctions and

cond condemnation. johnathan hunt, thanks. there is a big fight going on in the supreme court that could change the way we watch television. they are challenging a start-up company that let's you stream networks online but doesn't pay the channels. how does aero work? >> you pay a fee and get access to all of the broadcast channels in your area. essentially any channel you get, if you put an antenna on your table you can watch it on your tablet. you can pull it out and watch channels 2, 4, 5 or 7 and pay

the $8 a month. broadcasters say it is ripping off the copyrighted material and selling it. >> the networks pay for the development and production of these shows. and what is the argument from aero that what they are doing is legal? >> this is where it gets interesting. aero has quite a set-up. it has thousands of little antennas that pick up these broadcast signals and assign it to a dvr. so they are saying they assign a pairing and antenna to each customer. they are saying they are a glorified dvr service and they are charging a fee for that equipment and taking a broadcast

signal that is available publically and as a fee recording the program you want to watch. the broadcast networks say this is a scheme that allows them to get around copy right law. oral arguments in an hour and they will probably decide this one in the summer. >> this is a fascinating case to watch. general motors seeking protection against the lawsuits regarding the ignition problems saying they are not responsible for the cars sold with the old gm in 2009. they emerged after the $50 billion bailout and taxpayers lost about $10 million after the shares were sold in general motors. vice president biden is in

kiev and brought $50 million and a strong warning to russia. reaction from john bolton. >> and secret memos on drone strikes against terror suspects. >> and tens of thousands of drug offenders could be walking free after the attorney general announces new guidelines. we will debate that fair and balanced. >> we pay a high price whenever the system doesn't give justice or ensure those who paid their time isn't given the chance to be productive citizens. in the nation, it's not always pretty.

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affirmitive action law for the college admission in the state. 6-2 ruling that the lower case didn't have a court or standing to rule on it. so a big deal there. full analysis throughout the day on fox of that. the united states is starting to talk a bit tougher it seems on russia. the vice president is in kiev and told moscow to quote stop talking and start acting. the obama administration says they need to encourage them to put down their weapon and leave several buildings they have overtaken. and they promised $50 million.

>> this isn't a manhood issue of obama. this is an issue of complete absence of thinking. this administration do not have a strategic idea in their idea. he said about ukraine this isn't a cold war chess board but of course it is. >> john bolton, former u.s. ambassador to the un. is charles crad hammer right about that? >> sure. the real question is why are we paying attention to what joe biden said? they have seen the administration's weakness and the notion we announced $50 million in aid -- this is chicken feed compared to the

debt they owe to russia for oil and gas and what it runs up week bye week. this is meant to show political support but reveals the weakness of the policy. >> john mccain says you need to send domestic weaponry and come up with a plan for strategic energy freedom. that the a better plan? >> you have to ask what will ensure sovereignty for the people of ukraine so they can make up their own minds on what they want. the only real answer on that is going back to what george bush proposed and that is put ukraine and georgia on a path to nato

memb membership. i think that can be done quickly. i think the energy independence would be great if we had a president who believed in hydro carbon in this country. i think the vice president should be in berlin persuading them they ought to be worried about the march over the boarders. >> i want to go back to the solution of nato. that is not a military solution and isn't discussing boots on the ground or weaponry as a form of aid. why isn't that idea on the table? what happens if we start that table? >> because there is a false few across bipartisan lines that countries like ukraine and

georgia are in russia's sphere of influence. the whole reason for nato is to prevent countries from being dominated in europe. and we have seen americans have to send men overseas to prevent countries from dominating the others. i think expanding nato to take ukraine and georgia as we have other soviet union partners and took in most of the eastern and central european questions makes good sense. i think that would be a deterance as well. >> you are saying we should be offering nato to georgia and ukraine, right? >> i think we have to persuade the europeans which is why biden

is in the wrong capital. the president saw what he did the georgia and when he took office six months later he could have said he wants to think about how to deal with russia but he was giving them concession on the missile defense and the new controlled arm treaty and they have pocketed it and want it more. >> europeans are concerned about their energy from russia as well which might factor into that. thank you very much. millions of catholics are heading to rome for a big event. john paul the second is going to be declared a saint. and big new stories. >> and a fish story that is almost too big to believe.

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>> talk about the catch of the day. look at this. a fisherman showing what we reeled in. massive 805 found shark. caught it off florida coast. jo joey polk isn't revealing the exact location. the shark roped up in the park of the pickup there. he shared the big catch at a community bbq. >> when you see something like that you will need a bigger

boat. >> you will need a bigger pickup truck. >> he must know more about there. >> he is going back for more. there is an election today. republican voters headed to the polls to fill a seat left by tray radal. steve hair gin is live on this and good morning to you, steve. >> good morning. more than a million dollars being spent by three of the candidates and that is a staggering sum for a primary here. one thing the four candidates agree on: how the race has been run. >> it got nasty. >> probably been the best negative campaign i have seen. >> we should be focused on the issue. >> reporter: they differ over

the cause of replaying messages and a plea by a girl to stop bring attention to her family after sexual abuse. outicide political groups do the work. >> the whole thing is rather emoral. it isn't straightforward enough. >> reporter: the former leader said clawsen changed the game. spending his own money. >> i think it had something to to do change it because the volume of money that allows someone to purchase. >> reporter: whoever wins here is a heavy favor to win the general election against the dem

democrat in june. attorney general eric holder under fire for proposing a change that could put hundreds of thousands of jailed drug offenders back on the street. growing controversy over sentences. >> and what you are watching is a revolution. that is a rocket that took off and went about a thousand feet in the air and then it landed. this is unbelievable. if you could reuse a rocket, how could that revolutionize space flight? you are about to find out. &%

>> the obama administration is facing a court order to reduce secret memos that justify the use of drones to kill american citizens who are suspected of terrorism overseas. the highly classified papers describe the bases for killing an american-born leaders in yemen. why did the appeal court reverse the decision on this, molly? >> a federal judge ruled a year ago the obama administration could keep the memos secret but

a federal appeals court has reversed that decision. in part they said because attorney general holder and john brennan kept talking in public about why in general they believe it is legal to target american citizens cooperating with drone strikes. so they said it has been lost by public statements by officials and official disclosure of the doj white paper. they are talking about the department of justice that released a document last year after one media organization had gotten ahold of it and that dockmented the legal reasons the administration thought they could target american citizens who are in al qaeda.

>> what is the reaction to the ruli ruling? >> the white house hasn't commented on this. but in the past they said it was a significant thing he was dead and talked about the drone strikes and the administration takes careful access to make sure they are quote within the american policy. a lawyer for the civil liberty unions tells the new york times this is a rejection of the government being able to use secre secrecy about the targeted killing program. it was the aclu and the new york times that brought the suit to light. the united states supreme court court made a decision on a case that has been in fact

waiting for some time now. the supreme court issued its decision on race and college ad missi mission. the court ruled the state doesn't have to use race and they could change the constitution from prohibiting schools from taking race into that. we have a campaign director from the center for progress action fund. good morning. and david web is here as well. i think you covered this on radio, david, what is the impact of the 6-2 ruling? >> it is significant. we have a 6-2 decision that says we have to end discrimination which is what this action has become in large part. at a time in the country where their needed to be a change from civil rights it was a short

period. but now it is a tool especially with the state institutions in michigan of denying access to americans based on ethnic ide identi identity. this is a good decision. michigan can finally move forward. >> this was the case everybody was waiting on. emily, what did you believe in the early stages of digesting this? >> we will see more once we see the actual decision and opinions. i would disagree with david on the fact this is a massive ruling on the substance of the issue. it was 6-2 but the judges said there were different reasons for upholding the law. the actual challenge is whether affi affi

affi affirmitive action. the voters went to the ballot. and this is similar to the way the prop 8 decision was. is it okay to go to the ballot on the issue and the court ruled it is okay to do so. >> wow. one at a time now. what the court said, you are right, emily, that voters could change the constitution and they said the lower court was wrong, david, when they set aside the case as discrimination. how do you add that into the equation? >> it goes along with the comment about the voters. the voters get to chose because our society is advanced. and even o'connor said there was a time limit on this and a time when aaffirm tv needs to be gon.

we need to go back to the voters and the american people and the right to chose. >> emily, go. >> this is a live debate in this country. the court didn't decide if this is discrimination to use race as factor helping or what not. this is based on the history of not providing the same opportunities for all people. it isn't that far in the future f footo get the same opportunities. michigan is hot ground for all of this. but it isn't just benefiting the minority students. it is benefit to the university and have diversity in the classroom. >> we are not the america we

were in the '60s. a woman was the focal case of this. we have to look at this where we are as a country. >> david, do you expect voters in michigan to go after changing the state constitution? do we know that answer? >> i don't think we know the answer but i expect there will be a significant effort to make the constitution reflect the changes in society. we are in a progressive and modern society in america. >> i love david calling it a progressive society but that means we need to be honest about where people are starting compared to the opportunities they have and what they mean for them and an equal playing field. >> equal outcome doesn't exist but equal opportunity does exist in america. that is the reality. >> thank you both.

>> for the first time ever, two popes will be declared saints during the same ceremony. more than a million catholics could be on hand. father marks is here to talk it. >> a police officer tried to trip several students and is facing trouble now. i probably shouldn't have tripped them. it was a cheap shot going for their legs. we are kids and not trying to hurt anyone. it was fun rushing the field. where castles were houses and valiant knights stood watch for the kingdom was vast and monsters lurked in the deep

and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real jon scott pope juan paohn paul scott jon scotthn xxiii canonized.

a police officer is in a bit of trouble after tripping students on the field. fans are rushing on the field after a texas high school team won the state soccer title.

you can see the officers pushing and shoving the students and knocking them down. the officer has been with the department since 2005 and they are investigating it. >> we was our officer of the year last year. this type of behavior we would classify as uncharacteristic of him. so it definitely is, you know, it raises our level of concern as to why did the whole thing even occur. >> a little too aggressive and cameras everywhere. officers on leave with pay pending an internal investigation into his alleged misconduct. all right. for the first time in history, two popes will be canonized on the same day. and millions, some saying three million, might be the biggest

gathering every at the vatican. but jon scott -- but john xxiii and also pope john paul ii will become saints this weekend. john martin is here and good to have you here. why these two men? why is pope francis deciding to do this now? >> some canonization processes have taken 300-600 or more years. and i think because there is an uprising of the people in reference to john xxiii. i remember at this funeral people had signs saying make him a saint now. that is in line with the tradition of the church where

people come together saying this is a holy guy. john xxiii transformed the church in a positive way and we need to do that again. >> it is going to be an incredible ceremony watching this play out. when you think about pope john paul ii's legacy. we will look at a picture of five presidents, all who met with pope john paul ii and he and margaret thatcher helped to bring down the wall of commun m communism. >> what they did was make their voice a global voice and there is no church that has that voice. we need that voice.

someone who speaks power in that way based on common sense. and that is what the pope did. he kissed the ground upon arriving and that is something the whole word needs. >> a lot of people ask how do you become a saint. you see the pictures with the old eyeballs on the plate and these images. >> the first part is determining their heroically in the face of issues. and there is a process about if someone asked for their intercession like would you pray for me but it is after you are

dead and saying you are close to god now so will you intercede and if a miracle is granted, and there is a medical community that looks into that, there is another step. >> they had pope john xxiii vatican two was part of his contributi contribution. >> he was a lot like pope francis. they called him the good pope. he was coming after pius the 12th who was more ridged. they would tell him he could not do but he said we could just haven't before. he transformed the church in the modern area. >> you had a one-on-one meeting with pope john paul ii? >> i was bringing a foot basket

over and i was going to give it to his secretary and went through the back roads of the secretary and i am coming up and about to leave and i heard a voice in the background, i didn't understand it, it was in polish. but the secretary called and there is pope john paul ii sitting down and he could barely talk. but he goes like this. sit down. and he wanted to listen. talk about heroic virtue. it is the kindness and generousity that makes you a saint no matter what religion. >> what is the bigger impact of this? does it draw more attention to the catholic church? >> some people would say what is the big deal? only god makes a person holy. but any time you have a million to three million to celebrate

the death of 10 years ago and 30 years ago respectively there is something gone . i think it will be a fun event. >> big day. jenna lee is standing by for "happening now." what are you cook ing up? >> brand new polls out on the current scheme and the police are being questioned and how they keep us all safe. and a study linking how much pain you can take for your genetics. we think it is more of a gender issue when it comes to pain. >> no doubt. >> we will ask dr. siegel about that. >> i think he would agree with me? speaking of gender, jenna, big reminder of the changes coming up on monday.

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the day showing the 1st test flight of the spacex reusable rocket and now you can see it. all right. so what you are watching is the falcon 9r rocket taking off at a test place in texas. it will hover around 800-900 feet. hang with us. then you will see the after burners die down and the rocket itself slowly drifts back toward earth. we believe it is the first time they have been able to test this and land it on land. they have been testing it on water for some time. but landing back on earth is tru tru tru truly revolutionary. the rocket is erect and boom and

there you have it. michael more is the editor of scientific america and he is here. i call this is revolution for a reason. tell us what they are trying to do and why. >> this is an attempt to get a rocket up, launch into space, and come back under controlled flight to where the rocket took off or nearby so they can reuse the rocket. it is the equivalent of having a reusable airplane. what they do when they want to go up to space is build a new rocket every time. it is very expensive. >> how would this change space flight? >> right now putting up a satellite with spacex being the cheapest and that is $55-$60 million and if they can reuse

rockets they can bring it down to $10 million. what the person in charge of spacex wants to let anyone go to space and people go to mars. he says the only way we can do that is if space flight is cheap. >> are you surprised to see the video? because they have been testing over water and now it happened on land. >> they have done some test over land not as impressive as this. this is by far the highest and the biggest one. they did a similar test overw p water with one that went to space. they launched one friday afternoon and they took it and sat it down over the atlantic ocean. it was just a test. but it went very well. >> musk is doing this and it is a big deal going 800 feet and

240 miles above earth and coming back down and landing. can you say how far away they are from doing the latter? >> spacex keeps saying they will to absurd things and everyone says cannot do it but they do it. right now say are saying by early next year they will take a rocket booster going at mock 10, be able to control that, turn it around, turn on boosters and have a controlled landing. >> if they are able to do that the learning curve for space flight is going to be like this. >> absolutely. >> thank you for being here. wow. we have brand news fox polls that have just come in on obamacare. and the major effect it is having on voters and why it may spell trouble for the party. spell trouble for the party.

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apparently. not always go, and land in the ocean. reuse. kind of like the shuttle idea, right? bill: right on. martha: that was revolutionary. bill: they had human beings bill: they had human beings >> see i tomorrow. jenna: we begin with a look at affordable care act and how it could impact this year's midterm elections. i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. eight million people have signed up. critics are raising questions about the numbers and how the law is really helping americans. a new fox poll shows only 39% of registered voters favor obamacare versus 56% who oppose it. since 2010, approval has never gone up higher than 40%. there is the question whether folks that sign up will pay the premiums. 21% say they're very confident enrollees wi