some believe it is offensive to native americans to credit christopher columbus with discovering america. the change takes effect this year. the person behind it says people will feel really good about how we're advancing a racially equal agenda. do we have to go to work? thanks for watching. welcome to our special audience edition of "hannity." stoned america for the entire hour. we're going to be discussing the rampant increased use of marijuana in this country. we have people on both sides of the issue but before we bring them in, our producers recently traveled to denver for the annual 4/20 pot smoking event. we've been focusing all week on the program about what happened at that event. tonight, we're taking the conversation to a whole new level and it starts right here, right now.

>> i love smoking pot. that's it. >> no one died from weed. no one overdosed from weed. >> this is our choice. >> i mean, it's marijuana everywhere. >> if we label a gateway drug, we would have to go for caffeine or aspirin. >> nothing can go wrong with weed. >> it's not harmful at all. >> i don't think all drugs should be legalized. >> this is america. people are going to do what they want. it's free will. >> we all start with something. >> this is like the biggest gathering of smokers in probably the whole world. >> you're a lot more likely to die from drinking than smoking weed. >> studies show it helps cancer. >> this is what we want to be able to have this very day in america. >> is this our future, our reality? a stoned america.

we bring in our studio audience. is this going to be our future, every state legalized? is that the future? how many say yes, hands up. how many say no? i think it will be. i think states will follow because the government wants the money. how many agree the government wants the money? the money. dr. braverman, you made a strong case on this program this is not good for children. this is a study that came out today. marijuana use may increase complications in young and middle-aged adults. we have fourth graders selling pot in colorado. medially, you say this is a bad. >> it's a really bad choice for a reward, anxiety. it doesn't help the brain work, love, exercise, family, you should get a high from doing great school work, not -- >> athletics. >> athletics. exercise. this is the worst way. >> what do you see with people with a chronic --

>> they have no motivation anymore. and then they go to the next level and can't get high anymore from pot. they need coke, alcohol. it's a gateway drug with a life-time psychiatric pay off. >> dr. siegal? >> i see it differently. i think he's blurring something here. i think we can make a scientific statement that someone is dying from cancer and have no way to stop nausea -- >> that's a good -- >> i want to make that point there are indications for medical marijuana but those have been misused deliberately like states like california and every other state marching along, deliberately misusing that very narrow indication as a reason for promoting recreational use, which i agree with him is extremely dangerous. >> why is it extremely dangerous? that's why i wanted to start with you. why is it dangerous? >> it damages brain cells, interferes with thinking -- >> this isn't reefer madness. >> people don't do well on tests. this week there is a study out

of france and the third that shows it can interfere with your heart. people can get heart attacks because of marijuana. that's not that common, but that indicates how active it is. it raises your heart rate. it raises or lowers your blood pressure. it interferes with your thinking in your brain. you get behind the wheel of a car, even more impaired than alcohol. >> let me ask chloe. you're a young member -- you're one of the young members of our audience. a lot of your friends smoke pot regularly? >> i know some that do. >> many? >> leave me out of this. >> and other drugs. >> here is my thinking behind it. you know, i went to school in the south. i saw a lot of people who smoked a lot of pot, and i believe it's a gateway drug. i believe that if you're going to try marijuana, that you're probably more likely to try cocaine. you're more likely to maybe try molly, and again, i'm an entertainment reporter so i see people like miley cyrus who glorify smoking marijuana and make the younger generation think that it's a cool thing to

do. >> what about the doctors' observations it reduces motivation, ambition, drive? >> do you know how many students i saw in college who smoked pot and skipped class? who smoked so much pot that they didn't take their test, they forget to study. it impairs their judgment and it does not increase motivation. like you said, go out and run a little bit, and that will give you a better high. >> the only two successful pot heads i met in my life were cheech and chong. >> don't forget snoop dog. >> the majority of people sitting here because we asked before we started rolling camera, the majority of people sitting here have smoked pot once in their lives. >> thank you. >> how many people here have tried heroin? >> thank you. >> i wouldn't admit on national television. >> pot is a very popular drug, hard drugs are not popular. >> wait a minute, let me stop you for one second. i want -- all right. here is the question i have. you watch this tape and i watch

all this b roll and all this video. they are pounding this down in huge quantities and many of them on a regular basis. the fact that somebody sampled it, experimented with it, that's a little different. >> sean, it's a pot party, if you rolled cameras at the st. patrick's party -- >> last year there were five citations at this event. it's only been legal at colorado at home, not at public. there were five citations last year. we're now 16 months into it and there were 92. 4/20 fell on easter. >> go ahead. >> y'all keep saying kids, weed ain't for kids like alcohol is not for kids. >> do you smoke weed? >> i smoke pot. >> a lot? >> i am not dipping into your stash but -- [ laughter ] >> even though pot isn't for kids, there is an age limit,

this does effect children. just a couple weeks ago, there was a case in colorado where a man ate cookies, hallucinated, shot his wife in front of their three children. >> there was another kid who jumped off -- >> jumped off a building. >> sean, the producer -- >> parents were there with their kids. >> sean, sean -- >> smoking with them. >> by the way, that's more common than you think, right? drinking? let me tell you the opposite of what he said. 500,000 heroin users in the united states, it's tripled over the past decade. every single one of them started with marijuana. >> hold on -- >> one person in the room here but if you do use it, you start with marijuana. >> let's go -- >> hang on. >> let's go for one fact, i'm probably one of the oldest in the audience -- >> you're one of the best looking -- >> let me tell you something, sean, fact, every one of the pot heads that i knew at that time when i say hey, wow, hey, what's that? what's going? every one of them are brain-dead. it's fact.

every one i know in my long history of life, everyone that was a pot smoker, their brains are messed up. >> you have been -- >> dr. braverman. what about what everybody is saying here? you go to colorado a lot. why? i have no idea. >> well, i'm born and raised in colorado, that's the first thing. but sean, this is the issue that i have. i think that all of these studies are very important, good or bad, and that is why we need the studies for people to choose when they vote, when this becomes legislation and it's on the ballot, you make an informed decision. do you want to vote for guns or not? do you want to vote for marijuana or not? these are the studies that make people decide. and the people of colorado and washington voted in favor. you're now all of a sudden

opposed to it. >> i'm not -- let me say one thing, look, i don't put marijuana on the same level as crack and heroin and acid and molly and ecstasy -- >> cocaine. >> whatever, we'll get to that in a minute. i believe it's a gateway drug and i also believe that it's increased availability and legality is going to end up an america that's going to look an awful lot like those pictures. >> that's what people said about prohibition with alcohol. can i tell you how many times i was drunk in college and missed my class because i was hung over? >> let me guess, every day. >> not marijuana, lots of alcohol. >> gavin, you said something earlier. >> these doctors bring up a great point. people out there smoking pot and all it does is make sex amazing. it makes you laugh your head off with your friends and makes movies the best movie you have ever seen. meanwhile these people could do math homework and get the rush you get from nailing your calculus. >> you raise -- >> i'm glad our comedian is enjoying the show.

you tried heroin. did you shoot it? did you snort it? >> i snorted it. i know these things are a vice. you should see my liver from drinking -- >> gavin, this is what i don't understand. these kids buy ecstasy, molly -- >> great, great, great, in moderation. >> in moderation. here is the problem, who made those drugs? >> look at steve jobs -- >> wait a minute, lack at seamore hoffman. >> most smokers don't die of smoking. just because you have some bad effects, doesn't mean i want bureaucrats to walk into my house -- >> i'll get everybody in, promise. up next, i'll speak to somebody who helped get marijuana

legalized in colorado. and we got an exclusive look inside a pot dispensary. one of the stores selling this to people over 21. you won't believe how marijuana is literally being sold out of colorado. we'll take you inside coming up on "hannity". >> when i was in england, i experimented with marijuana a time or two and i didn't like it and didn't inhale and never tried it again. >> first time ever on the "huffington post" . >> he's smoking. >> a lot more where that came from and could explain why getting high is so acceptable in the country as a special edition "stoned america" continues. ated for gentle, over-night relief. dulcolax. predictable over-night relief you can count on.

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america. we're going to bring back our audience of experts and pundits. first advocates for legalizing pot said it would lead to an economic boom in certain areas. among those who feel that way, he helped push the legalization efforts in colorado and is now the director of communications for the marijuana project. mason, how are you? >> i'm great, thanks for having me. >> we actually went -- somebody just said you're stoned. we actually just went to one of the dispensaries. we'll show that later in the program tonight. do you have any financial interest in this at all? >> no, you know, like most americans, i simply think marijuana prohibition failed and i'm dedicated to trying to end it and replace it with a more sensible approach.

just like someone might work for a non-profit on gun rights, i'm choosing to work on marijuana policy. >> you see the kids on the video when we went to the 4/20 event in colorado. you see them, smoking pot, very happy. you heard the doctors and their observations about people that smoke pot on a regular basis, even people that went to school with them. what has your experience been? you see people smoke pot regularly. do they have the same motivation you do? maybe you smoke pot regularly. >> we know for a fact marijuana is an objectively less harmful substance than alcohol, as a lot of your guests have pointed out. less addictive. less toxic and doesn't contribute to the violence you see with things like alcohol. >> but it takes away their ability to function, their motivation, their -- anybody that i've met -- anybody that i've met, i'm telling you a story if you just pay attention. anybody i met in my life that smokes a lot of pot has like zero motivation. they are not people i consider bright, energetic, happy people in my life. that's been my experience. >> that's quite frankly, that's --

>> that's a fact. >> that's just saying something about who you hang out with. the fact is half of americans have used marijuana. our last three presidents. supreme court justices. >> all right. are you a parent? >> some of the most productive people in this country -- >> i'm talking -- there is a very different distinction between experimented, used and those who smoke it every day. those that need their hit every day. for example, let's say you have kids and see the videos of the kids at the 4/20 event. your 21-year-old son or daughter says i'm going to the 4/20 event, dad, you're going to say what? >> i'm going to say, well -- >> have fun? >> it's illegal to consume marijuana in public so be careful, but i would much rather them use marijuana than binge drinking. you're going to an event that is the equivalent of the one biggest frat party of the year for alcohol and you're trying to somehow suggest that all marijuana users are these young stoner kids. >> do you stop at marijuana? do you want to legalize crack?

do you want to legalize heroin? >> this isn't a discussion about crack and heroin. >> no, you want to legalize pot. i'm asking if you want all drugs legalized. that's a simple question. that's logical question. >> i'm thinking like most americans, i think we should re-examine -- >> i asked you a question. i didn't ask you -- do you want to legalize heroin and crack? >> sean, no. >> all right, you answered. all right. thank you. >> i don't want to legalize heroin and crack and clearly you don't like the people who use marijuana. you like hanging out with people who drink. >> that's not true. i think there's a big difference. >> i've seen your program -- >> i believe with the doctors and experts we have. it's a, a gateway drug and those who use it lose motivation and ambition. they are not as alert and aware and as engaging as the other people i meet in my life. mason, we got to roll. appreciate you being with us. head back to our studio audience. yes? what did you think about that

conversation? do you think it's the beginning, a gateway drug? >> all of this is creating pot culture. i'm not as nervous about the drug as i am about the obsession of the pot culture. what happens with young people is they don't learn how to cope when they start smoking pot -- >> you're a young person. >> to relax. i'm way too tight bay. i never relax is the thing. when people don't learn to cope, then they become adults who smoke all the time. >> you and i are the same way, type a. let me go to todd. you come at this from a moral perspective. you write a lot about moral issues. do you see this as part of america in decline? >> i think absolutely that's the case. what we have here is the case of

money over morality. and you know, right now, it's really funny. folks were watching the chuckle heads, watching these folks doing what they are doing and getting a good laugh. when the body count rises and people die, it's real funny, isn't it, real funny to talk about, but this is a classic example, sean, of people just not giving a dang any more. they want to do whatever they want to do. >> you don't give a dang about marijuana od. >> wait a minute, hang on a second, i think what you're saying is they start with marijuana, then they drink and then they snort coke and do blow and this. where do you draw the line? that's the issue. where do you draw the line? >> if you look at cigarettes, there is a huge push out there talking about how bad cigarettes are for you. alcohol is the same way. what do we say about pot over and over again? how great it is. talking about how great other drugs are. in the conversation, is medical marijuana helpful? yes. the doctors said so. is other weed potentially bad for you? maybe? yes. >> keasha? >> why is there a promotion. >> i agree about the cigarettes. the whole society you can't smoke a cigarette, even in your

own apartment in new york, anymore. >> just coming from an attorney's perspective, most of my clients, i do criminal defense work, i would say nine out of ten of the clients have used marijuana on a regular basis and these kids who are committing crimes, they were all high on marijuana. so their judgment is all messed up and i do believe it's a gateway drug. >> it's not a kid thing. >> it's not for anyone. it's a gateway drug. >> if you legalize it -- >> last word, guy. >> i know -- >> alcohol -- >> a child -- >> it would be easier -- >> you don't have to be a super criminal now. easier to have someone passing it to them? >> the majority of pot smokers s of colorado. look around the room. everybody on this panel will talk on a different place. the sound guys, camera dudes, they all smoked before, every single one of them. look at the guy on boom. look at his beard. >> whoa, whoa, first of all -- >> let him answer. >> he's a friend of this program

and i work with him for years and i can tell you that's not true. that's not true about him. not true. no, you said today -- >> i didn't say today. >> that's very -- >> people -- >> making candy now, they get candy made out of marijuana. candies. >> we got to take a break. hang on. we'll come back. when we come back, more on the startling report linking casual marijuana use to brain abnormalities, that's up next. >> the newcomers that come to try pot for the first time, sell them smaller milligrams in the pot. >> all right. so the pot heads in denver are not too concerned. we'll check in with our doctors. they're here to respond tonight. later, it's the exclusive look into a pot dispensary. a tour that you'll actually see what it's like in colorado. you get the choices, and how anybody over 21 can go in and buy pretty much as much as they want. all that and plus, why politicians and celebrities are also to blame for the pot culture in america. mr. president, that may include you. stick around.

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>> welcome back to our welcome back to our special edition of "hannity, stoned america." a new report was just released about the effects of smoking pot. researchers out northwestern university discovered that young adults who use marijuana just once or twice a week have significant brain abnormalities and when our team of producers were in denver this weekend, well, they asked the stoners what they thought about the study. here is what they said. >> 4/20! >> i'm not a scientist, i didn't read the study. i think it's possible. anything that you put in your body that's foreign like that can be a problem. it's america, people will do what they want. it's free will to an extent and i don't think marijuana is any more dangerous than alcohol.

if we outlaw marijuana, we should outlaw alcohol too. >> i saw that and it's similar to alcohol. we're not allowed to drink until we're 21. we're not allowed to smoke until we're 21. if you wait, i don't see the problem. >> i would definitely agree with teenagers, definitely, but in a cultural situation where it is 4/20 friendly and education, if they don't need to smoke marijuana until well after high school. >> that is false. it's a skewed study to begin with. i looked into that study and it's not true. it causes new brain cells to grow as opposed to what your study suggests. >> i wouldn't be surprised. there is a lot of developmental changes that happen through adolescence and puberty, as you age, so does the brain. >> all right. pretty unbelievable. that is not the only study that should make people nervous. a separate survey, they say

marijuana use increases heart complications in young and middle-aged adults and with all of these dangerous side effects, well, do you want your kids smoking pot? turn back to our studio audience. guy, weigh in. do you want your kids in that 4/20 confab? >> no, but i wouldn't want my kids on spring break doing "girls gone wild". >> chloe was on the show funnels. >> water, water. if you try pot, you're 100 times more likely to try cocaine. >> guy? >> here is the thing, i've been listening to these arguments. i'm in the middle on this issue. i understand and agree with some of the arguments that marijuana use isn't something we should encourage and good for people or society at large, but i look at how much money we spend trying to enforce a failed prohibition and wonder if it's worth it.

i'm very open to arguments as a fiscal conservative that we need to abandon that in this country. >> my fear is that is going to spread and a lot of these kids, that's what they will be doing. >> you're saying it will spread as if it's not already spreading. kids are already smoking pot. it's not like us talking here will stop that. let me finish my point. anything in excess is bad. alcohol in excess is bad. the idea that pot leads -- let me say something. hold on, sean, i've gone to the best schools in this country. >> yes, sir. >> everyone smokes pot everywhere. >> not every kid. >> there is a large number of productive members of this country and the world who smoke pot. this crazy idea. >> hang on a second. noah comes at this, he's our friend from media. he comes at this from a media angle. think about bill clinton, i smoked but i didn't inhale and

barack obama talking about doing a little blow and getting stoned and drunk day in and day out. nobody paid any attention to that. >> or president george w. bush who also admitted to smoking marijuana. >> the change is what i'm saying. >> what is changing is a gradual acceptance that people smoke weed and are productive members of society and what you saw in colorado could be the result of construction of elaborate taboos around the use of this and telling their kids their hair will fall out and they are unable to cognate and unable to be productive members of society and try the drug and none of that happens and you lose the trust of your child and credibility of that child. >> listen, there might be a reefer madness aspect to that i would agree with, but it's when the kids smoke the second day of the week and the third day of the week, then -- >> the other thing is, too,

sean, i agree with guy. i'm in the middle on this but you have to consider here if it's going to be recreational and you're smoking and drinking and impaired driving, that's another issue. you got alcohol, marijuana, and whatever other gateway drug we're talking about here. it honestly is a culture we need to be aware of when it comes to students and college campuses and younger. if it's legalized, it will -- >> you know, i don't get the parents that drink and smoke pot with kids. >> nypd, eight years in the narcotics division. at certain times we were sent out on what we would call federal day. we went to bryant park and we locked up people for one joint and they went through the federal system to give the federal government dollars towards enforcing narcotics. it was ridiculous. people faced three to five years in prison, which put a taxing on our criminal justice system. it put a taxing on the jail system in the federal government as well as the state government to the point where the narcotics

division, new york city police department did not enforce the narcotics laws as it related to marijuana. >> all right. doctor, the one person that hadn't spoken yet, dr. williams. >> one of the comments i wanted to make as a gateway drug, usually there is an underlying mood disorder. a lot of these adults using or or children or adolescents are self-medicating and learning how to cope, coping mechanisms. >> joann is right. >> yeah, exactly. we need more of that. >> sean -- >> the thing that is really setting pot apart from alcohol or from cigarettes is the psychiatric aspects of this, anxiety, depression, paranoia and psychosis. people get anxious. some people are inattentive and some are laid back. the brain damage issue is super seeded by the psychiatric problems that can be long lasting. we're not talking about people

trying it once, but ongoing use. >> what studies do you have, though, that address prescription drugs and ambion and xanax -- >> let him answer. >> why can't i ever finish, sean? >> i was defending you. >> marijuana, but we have a prescription drug problem in this country. people often overmedicate. >> you need to address that, as well. >> they are not separate. >> dr. braverman, quick, real quick, medical. >> here is what they are missing, each generation that smokes pot with animals gets fatter, less anxiety, germ cells get damaged, you can end up with generation after generation because -- >> isn't it cultural, too. >> when you're a bad boy and eat junk food you don't get fat in a day. the reasoning that's here is blinded and shallow and non-medical. >> because -- >> we need to get to facts. >> just because you smoke pot once and get away with it means nothing. >> you're saying long-term use -- >> long-term, talking about countries -- >> safety factor -- >> sean, you got to have

political reasoning here, just like slavery destroyed a country in terms of freedom, just like new york voted for slavery, new york city voted for it, we had confusion on stopping hitler because these people are confused. they do not know that marijuana will damage their children, generation after generation. >> we'll pick it up when we come back and by the way, do you remember when president obama said this? >> i discovered that it didn't make any difference whether you smoked reefer in the white classmates sparkling new van or in the dorm room with some brother you met down at the gym. >> it's no wonder, it's becoming more and more socially acceptable to smoke weed when politicians and musicians --

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welcome back to our audience edition of "hannity." we can't talk about the issue of pot without mentioning the influence of some celebrities, politicians, the influence they've had in making getting high part of the status quo. >> when i was in england, i experimented with marijuana a time or two and i didn't like it and didn't inhale and never tried it again. >> first time ever on the "huffington post." >> he's smoking. >> i'm going to go through a list of your co-stars and celebrity friends. you tell me if you blazed up with them or not. what about paul rudd? >> absolutely. >> what about sarah silverman? >> many times. >> what about snoop? >> many times, i have.

>> i said i did experiment with marijuana when i was a youth. >> we're similar. he actually said that. we're just trying to -- >> that's because he's so high -- >> me, too, so it's fine. we both are. >> all right. we bring back our studio audience. you wanted to answer his question. dr. braverman's question, go ahead. >> we're conflating something bad with something illegal. the ten commandments, only two are illegal. i don't want to go to jail because someone decided i used a drug in moderation. i use speed, i used oxy cotton. >> do you want all drugs legal? >> yeah, because i want people to use them in moderation. >> chloe? >> you have people like miley cyrus and rihanna posting pictures of smoking joints but president barack obama, one of his close people that helped him throughout his campaign and he talks about him is jay-z and

he's a well-known former drug dealer and i doubt president barack obama wants sasha or malia smoking pot, especially in the white house. >> people in the public eye are de facto role models. they want to push the envelope. >> they did great with their lives. >> not everyone that smokes a joint will be addicted and not everyone that drinks a drink will be an alcoholic. we want kids to be the best they can be -- >> well said. noah? >> what kind of culture is that? what kind of culture -- did you listen to the cop about what he did on the streets when he tried to enforce this? that is not moral. that is not conservative. >> all right. noah in the back. noah? >> this is part of a process in american history. we had a really big problematic debate about alcohol. we had a saloon culture that gave way to the movement and prohibition which gave way to a culture we have now that celebrates alcohol. you're in danger of it going too far and pushing too hard one way

or the other, the people that are pot activists and prohibitionists. >> if we legalize all drugs like gavin is saying, we walk the streets with people in crack induced states of psychosis. >> i don't care because i don't do them but if i lived next to a dispensary or denver park, i might have a different view. >> sean, we have alcoholism, people drinking too much, killing people. my point now, we legalize pot in colorado. we now have to be able to test them on the spot like you do with alcohol because if someone is stoned out on pot, it's as bad as being stoned out on alcohol. >> we'll come back and coming up next tonight here on hannity. >> this is a jack 47. you can take a look at it. you can see what the bud looks like. you can open it up. you can smell it. business is booming in

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welcome back to our audience edition of "hannity" stoned america. our team of producers toured a marijuana dispensary in denver, colorado. they learned interesting things about how pot is being sold so openly today and ainsley earhardt gives us an exclusive look at a recreational marijuana store. >> reporter: when colorado voters approved legalized marijuana november of 2012, the rocky mountain state made world-wide headlines. >> 64, 64! >> reporter: setting in motion what some call the colorado weed boom. >> since the passing of the amendment, my business is up 20% in the morning 10% at night. tourism is up too, see a lot of new faces every day. >> we're doing phenomenal. since the beginning of the year, been able to hire two or three

more people that i did not have employed last year. >> reporter: the passing of amendment 64 spawned a wealth of new pot businesses and one of the fastest growing industries is the retail marijuana market. >> thank you, guys, take care. >> reporter: more than 160 recreational pot stores now call colorado home. one of the largest of the these stores is uflora. it's a one-stop shop for all things cannabis. >> it's located on the 16th street mall. after the passing of amendment 64, we really kicked it into high gear to get a place here. i have ten employees now, but we'll probably be hiring another three to five more people in the next month because we're so busy. >> it's mind-blowing. >> reporter: customers can choose from 20 different varieties of cannabis with names like jack 47, purple urkle. >> you're giving a clipboard and on here is four different tables with five different strains.

you can see what this strain is. this is a jack 47. you can take a look at it. see what the bud looks like. you can open it up. you can smell it. then you can also go ahead and go through here and read about it and it will tell you the thc level, cbd level, anything it might taste like, smell like, any effects, negative, positive and the medicinal use for it. >> reporter: if lighting up isn't your thing, the store offers a wide variety of edibles. >> these are gummy edibles just like the real things that most of us as adults grew up eating as children. they are just infused with thc and each container has 100 milligrams. there is ten pieces with 10 milligrams in each piece. if you like chocolates, these are good. they're different flavors. we like that these don't have a huge marijuana aftertaste for those new into trying stuff. >> reporter: customers can browse through the selection of smoking things. >> we have tourism and we know they will use them for a couple days and trash them.

they are not going to take them home. we have novelty fun things. can i help you with anything? >> reporter: agree or disagree with amendment 64, one thing is for sure. buying cannabis in colorado is now as easy as going to the corner market to pick up a loaf of bread. >> all right. aniesly, great report. >> thank you. >> this is big money. want them to get rich? open a dispensary. they are very successful individuals and my thought was we went to high school with the one guy or girl who was so talented and they had such a bright future and they let all of their hopes and dreams die because they were smoking pot and getting suspended and expelled and i was listening to the doctor saying your brain is

developing until you're 30. so everyone in the audience agreed that later in life, maybe you can make some of these decisions but the 20-year-olds smoking it every day. >> brian in the back? hang on, brian, go ahead. >> my point to ainsley is that same argument can be made for alcohol, very clearly. >> i don't agree with binge drinking. i don't agree with too much, alcohol, either. >> agreed. that's prohibition and we know, everyone knows the prohibition didn't work. why does it work for weed? it doesn't. >> matt, matt, matt, let guy answer. >> i think it is dangerous to sort of make a point based on an in this case. that's not a good way to form policy. >> we've got to break. todd and matt can battle it out when we get back. we'll have our final thoughts coming up with our studio audience. thanks for being with us.

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st all right, closing thoughts with our studio matt and todd, you were disagreeing here. >> the majority of americans born after world war ii have tried pot. this prohibition does not work. >> i think what the doctor was saying and what other people were -- >> you're challenging the status quo right now. it's illegal -- >> you're going down a slippery slope. >> i'm not worried about a slippery slope. >> here's what concerns me, the government hypocrisy. they used millions of dollars ridding our campus of sodas and ho-hos. >> say no to drugs. it's a gateway drug. you can't compare it to alcohol. i drink alcohol occasionally. it doesn't make me want to go

out and do other drugs. >> wait until you drink alcohol with tamera. >> all this discussion about alcohol, it's a strong man argument here. it leads to over a 100,000 traffic accidents a year. >> hold on. let's get our medical team in. >> what was the question? >> do your final thoughts. >> the whole idea of a gateway drug, people who are more predisposed to getting more addicted to marijuana or a substance have an underlying mood disorder. >> everyone that uses marijuana needs a better choice for anxiety management. anytime you take a generation that marijuana is your solution for anxiety, you're teaching them how to brain damage

themselves. >> any kind of addiction is a symptom of a larger problem. we need to support our young people so they can turn to something other than drugs. >> in closing, i want to point out one thing. look at miley cyrus' disney channel years and look at her now. now what is it? you look at the influence of different factors maybe in her social life, but drugs have been one of them. she's been promoting it. >> we just had the music festival the past few weeks. it's all about changing the culture and telling celebrities who are mentors to younger people -- >> last word. you're going to smoke a joint right after this. >> legalize it. legalize it. >> that's from him. >> give yourselves a big hand.

thank y'all for being with us. that's all the time we have left this evening. thank you for being with us. and we'll see you back here real soon. >> i'm greta van susteren. and this is all on the record. >> is it a dirty deal? wait until you hear who senate majority leader harry reid is calling "on the record" investigates tonight. plus, obnoxious, sexist, hypocrite? a democrat firing shots at her own party a strange twist in the so-called war on women. then, evictions eviction noticed to jewish college students. activists getting really nasty in the dead of the night. also, get ready lost fans. something big is about to happen. eric holder taking heat. crowds protesting a scheduled appearance at an