do we have to go to work? thanks for watching. welcome to o welcome to our special audience edition of hannity. stoned america. we're going to be discussing the ram pid inagrees -- ram independent increase of marijuana use in the country. before we bring them in, our producers recently traveled to denver for the annual 4/20 pot smoking event. we've been focusing all week about what happened at that event. we're taking it to a whole new level and it starts right here, right now. >> i love smoking pot.

>> no one died from weed. >> this is our choice. >> i mean, there's marijuana ever where. >> if we're going to label a gateway drug, we would have to go for caffeine or aspirins. >> it's not harmful at all. >> i think all drugs should be legalized. >> it's america. people are going to do what they want. >> we all start with something. >> this is like the biggest gathering of smokers in probably the whole world. >> a lot more likely to die from drinking than smoking weed. >> cannabis should be legalized. >> i don't think marijuana is anymore dangerous than alcohol. >> it helps cancer. >> this is what we want to be able to have and it's a great day in america. >> all right. is this our future? is this our reality? >> a stoned america.

is this going to be our future? every state legalized? >> yeah. >> how many says yes? hand up. how many say no? i actually think it will be. i think states will follow because the government wants the money. how many agree the government wants the money? let's start on the medical side. doctor, you made a strong case this week on this program that this is not good for children. marijuana use may increase complications in young and middle aged adults. we have fourth graders selling pot in colorado. >> it's a really bad choice. it doesn't help the brain. work, love, exercise, family, you should get a high from doing great school work, not getting a high from this. >> athletics? >> exercise. >> what do you see -- i'm looking at these young kids -- >> they have no motivation

anymore. they can't eat high anymore from pot, they need coke, they need alcohol. they have a lifetime psychiatric payoff. >> i think we can make a scientific statement that someone's dying of cancer that they have no way to stop their nausea. >> that's a whole different issue. >> there are indications for medical marijuana, but those have been misused deliberately by states like california. deliberately misusing that very narrow indication as a reason for promoting recreational use, which i agree with him is extremely dangerous. >> why is it dangerous medically? that's why i wanted to start with you doctors. >> first of all, it damages brain cells. it interferes with thinking. people don't do well on tests. this week, there's a study out of france that shows it can

interfere with your heart. that's not that common, but that indicates how active it is. it raises your heart rate. you get behind the wheel of a car, even more impaired than alcohol. >> you're one of the young e members of our audience. lot of your friends smoke pot regularly? >> i know some that do. >> leave me out of there. >> and other drugs? >> here's my thinking behind it. i went to school in the south. i saw a lot of people who smoked a lot of pot. i believe it's a gateway drug. i believe if you're going to try it, you're more likely to try cocaine. i also see people like rihanna and miley cyrus who glorify smoking marijuana and make them think it's a cool thing to do. >> what about the doctor's observations that it reduces

their motivation? >> do you know how many students i saw in college who smoked pot and skipped class, who smoked so much pot that they didn't take their tests? it impairs their judgment and it does not increase motivation. like you were saying, go out and run a little bit. >> the only two successful pot heads i met in my life were cheech and chong. >> the majority of people sitting here have smoked pot once in their life. >> thank you. >> how many people here have tried heroin. >> thank you. >> probably not -- >> and by the way -- >> but it's a very popular drug. hard drugs are not popular. >> wait a minute. let me stop you one second. but here's the question i have. these kids -- you watch this tape and i watch all this video, they are pounding this down in

huge quantities. wait a minute. and many of them on a regular basis. the fact that somebody sampled it, that's little different than what this is becoming. >> it's at a pot party. if you rolled cameras at the saint patrick's day parade a block from here -- >> last year there were only five citations last year. we're now 16 months into it and this year there were 92 citations and 4/20 fell on easter. >> all right. go ahead. >> y'all keep saying kids. weed ain't for kids. just like alcohol ain't for kids. >> do you smoke weed? >> yes, i smoke pot. >> are you high now? >> i'm not dipping into your stash. >> even though pot isn't for kids, you're right, and there is an age limit, this does affect children. there was a case in colorado where a man ate pot with

cookies, od'd, hallucinated, shot his wife and family. >> sean -- >> parents -- parents were there with their kids. >> sean -- >> smoking with them. by the way, that's more common than you think, right? >> let me tell you the opposite of what he just said. 500,000 heroin users in the united states. almost every single one of them started with marijuana. only one person in the room here uses it, but if you do use it, you start with marijuana. >> i'm probably one of the oldest in the audience. i grew up during the sixties. let me tell you something. fact, every one of the pot heads i knew at that time, what's that, what's -- every one of them are brain dead. it's fact. everyone that i know in my long history of life, everyone that

was a pot smoker, they're brains are -- >> tam ra has been a big defender all this week about pot. you and dr. braverman had a fight earlier this week. what about what everyone is saying here? >> i'm born and raised in colorado. that's the first thing. but sean, i -- this is the issue that i have. i think that all of these studies are very important, good or bad. and that is why we need the studies for people to choose when they vote, when this becomes legislation and it's on the ballot, you make an informed decision. do you want to vote for guns or not, do you want to vote for marijuana or not. these are the studies that make miami decide. and the people of colorado and washington voted in favor. you're now all of a sudden opposed it. >> i don't put marijuana on the

same level as crack and molly. i do believe it's a gateway drug. and i also believe that it's increased availability and legality is going to end up in an american that's going to look a lot like those pictures. >> that's what people were saying about the pro hi bigs with alcohol. can i tell you how many times i was drunk and missed my classes because i was hungover? >> let me guess -- >> these doctors bring up a great point. these people are out there smoking pot. all it does is make sex amazing, it makes you laugh your head off with your friends and movies the best movie you've ever seen. meanwhile, they could be doing your math homework and getting a rush. >> you raise your -- hang on. i'm glad our comedian's enjoying the show. >> you raised your hand early.

you tried heroin? >> i snorted it. i know these things are a vice. you should see my liver from drinking. >> you know these kids buy molly, acid -- >> moderation. >> in moderation, but here's the problem. who made those drugs? >> look at steve jobs. >> philip seymour hoffman is dead. dead. kids, no father. >> most heroin users don't die of heroin. just because you found bad effects doesn't mean i want some pencil pushing bureaucrat -- >> we got to take a break. stay right there. we'll get everybody in i promise. coming up, our studio audit yeps is just getting started. and i'll speak to somebody that helped get marijuana legalized in colorado.

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welcome back to our audience edition of hannity, stoned

america. first, advocates for legalizing pot have long claimed it would make using the drug safer and even said it would lead to an economic boom in certain areas. my next guest helped push the legalization efforts in colorado. mason, how are you? >> i'm great. thanks for having me. >> we actually went -- somebody just said you're stoned. we actually went to -- one of the dispense soirs. do you have any financial interest in this at all? >> no. like most americans, i simply thing marijuana prohibition has failed and i'm dedicated to try to end it and replace it with a more sensible approach. i'm chooseing to work on marijuana policy. >> so you see the kids in the video when we went out to the

4/20 event in colorado. they're smoking pot. they're smoking a lot of it. you heard the doctors and their observations about people that smoke pot on a regular basis. what has your experience been? you see people smoke pot regularly. maybe you smoke pot regularly. >> well, we know for a fact that marijuana is an objectively less harmful substance than alcohol. it doesn't contribute to the violence and injuries we see with alcohol. >> it takes away their ability to function, their motivation. >> not according -- >> i'm telling you a story if you just pay attention. anybody i met that smokes a lot of pot has zero motivation. they're not people i consider bright, energetic, happy people. >> that's -- >> that's just a fact.

>> that has something to say about who you hang out with. our last three presidents. >> i'm talking about -- i'm -- there's a very different distinction here between experimented, used and those that smoke it every day. for example, let's say you have kids and you see these videos of these kids at the event. your 21-year-old son or daughter says i'm going to the event dad and you're going to say what? >> i'm going -- first of all, it's illegal to consume marijuana in public. but i'd much rather them use marijuana than binge drinking. it's the one biggest frat party of the year for alcohol and you're trying to somehow suggest that all marijuanas users are these young -- >> do you stop at marijuana? do you want to legalize crack and heroin? >> this isn't a discussion

about -- >> i'm asking if you want all drugs legalized. >> i think like most americans i think the drug war has failed. >> i asked you a question. do you want to legalize heroin and crack. >> no -- >> i'm just asking. >> i don't want to legalize heroin and crack. i'm here to talk about marijuana. clearly you just don't like the people who use marijuana. >> that's not true. i think there's a big difference. hang on a second. i agree with the doctors and the experts we have. i believe it's a gateway drug. i believe that those who use it regularly lose motivation and ambition. they're not as alert and aware and as engaging as the other people in my life. thank you. we got to roll. what did you think -- do you think this is just the beginning? do you think it's a

drug? >> the thing is all of this is creating pot culture. i'm not as nervous about the drug as i am with the obsession of the pot culture. what happens with young people is they don't learn how to cope when they start smoking pot. i never relax is the thing. when people don't learn to cope, then they become adults who smoke all the time. >> you and i are the same way. todd, you come at this from a moral perspective. you write a lot about that. morally, do you see this as part of america in decline. >> i think absolutely that's the case. what we have here is the case of money over morality. right now, it's really funny. folks were watching these folks doing what they're doing out there and getting a good laugh about it. when the body count starts rising -- it's real funny isn't it? real funny to talk about?

this is a classic example of people just not not giving a da anymore. >> hang on a second. i think what you're saying is they start with marijuana and they drink and they snort coke and do blow and they do this. >> where do you draw the line? that's the issue. >> so if you look at cigarettes, right, there's a huge push out there talking about how bad cigarettes are for you. think about pot over and over again, how great it is. it's not -- is medical marijuana helpful? yes. the doctor said so. but is other weed potentially bad for you? maybe, yes. why is there a promotion. >> the cigarettes is a good analogy. you can't smoke a cigarette even in your own apartment in new york anymore. >> most of my clients, i do criminal defense work with

adults in juveniles. nine out of ten of those clients have used marijuana on a regular basis skpchlt these kids committing crimes they were high on marijuana. so their judgment is all messed up. >> it's not a kid thing. again legalize -- if you legalize it broadly, it's going to be more available to kids. >> you don't -- >> it's a child. >> you don't have to be a super criminal now. how much easier somebody passing it to them. >> you think everybody's 21 at that pot party? >> not on the campus of colorado. look around the room. everybody on this panel is going to be talking out of different places. the sound guys, the camera dudes, they all smoked before. >> wait. whoa whoa whoa. first of all -- first of all -- >> let him answer. >> he's a friend of this program and i work with him for years.

i can tell you that's not true. you said today sdrn. >> i didn't say today. >> making candy now. they got candy made out of marijuana. candy -- now what are you going to do? 7-year-old children taking it. when we come back, more on our startling new report linking casual marijuana use to brain abnormalities. >> try something a little smaller in milligrams, you know, in the pot. >> so the pot heads in denver aren't too concerned. we'll check in with our doctors. later, it's our exclusive look into a pot disp -- dispensary. all that plus while politicians and celebrities are also to blame for the pot culture in america. mr. president, that may include you. stick around. ♪

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welcome back to our special edition of hannity, stoned america. a new report was just released about the effects of smoking pot. researchers discovered that young adults that use marijuana just once or twice a week have significant brain abnormalities. they asked the stoners what they thought about the study. here's what they said. >> i'm not a signtist. i don't know and i didn't read the study. i think it's possible. i think anything that you put in your body that's foreign like that can be a problem. it's america. people are going to do what they want. i don't think marijuana's anymore dangerous than alcohol. if we're going to out law marijuana, we should outlaw alcohol too. >> i saw that and i think it's

similar to alcohol. we're not allowed to drink until we're 21. so if you wait, then i don't really see that there's a big problem. >> i would definitely agree with teenagers definitely. in a cultural situation in which it's 4/20 friendly that they don't need to start smoking marijuana until well after high school. >> that is false. it's a skewed study to begin with. i looked into that study it's not true. cannabis causes new brain cells to grow as opposed to what your study suggests. >> i wouldn't be surprised. there's a lot of developmental changes that happen through adolescence and pupty. as you age, so does your brain. >> all right. pretty unbelievable. that is not the only study that should make people nervous. according to a separate survey by the american heart

association, they say marijuana use increases heart complications in young adults. we turn back to our studio audience. do you want your kids in that thing? >> no, but i wouldn't want my kids on spring break doing girls gone wild. >> she was on this show funneling. >> water. water. i will say though that if you try pot, you're 100 times more likely, sean, to try cocaine. >> here's the thing. i've been listening to these arguments. i'm sort of in the middle on this issue. i understand and agree with some of the arguments that marijuana use is not something we should encourage and not necessarily good for people and society at large. but i look at how much money we spend trying to enforce a failed prohibition and i wonder if it worth it anymore. i'm open to arguments that we

need to abandon that. >> my fear is that that's going to spread. >> you're saying it's going to spread as if it's not already spread. kids are already smoking pot. let me finish my point. anything -- anything in excess is bad. alcohol in excess is bad. so the idea that, oh, pot leads to -- >> reading the bible in excess is bad. not everything. >> i've gone to the best schools in this country and everyone smokes pot everywhere. >> not every kid. >> what i'm saying to you is there is a large number of very productive members of this country and this world who smoke pot. this crazy idea -- >> noah comes at this from a media angle. think about bill clinton and then president obama talking about doing little blow and getting stoned. nobody paid any 'tension to

that. >> or president bush. a gradual acceptance of the reality of the fact that a whole lot of people smoke weed and they are productive members of society. what you saw in colorado could be the construction of elaborate taboos around the use of this. they try the drug and none of that happens. guess what, you lose the trust of your child and kred bltd of that -- credibility of that child. >> there might be a reefer madness aspect to that that i would agree with it. it's when they smoke the second day of the week and the third day of the week. >> i agree with guy. i'm in the middle on this. you have to consider, if it's going to be recreational allowed and you're drinking and smoking and you're an impaired person and you're driving, that's a whole different issue too. when you're legalizing all of

these things, honestly it is becoming a culture now that we need to be aware of when it comes to students on college campuses and even younger. if it's legalized it's going to proliferate. >> i don't get these parents that drink and smoke pot with their kids. >> nypd. at certain times we were sent out on what we would call federal day. we went to bryant park and locked up people for one joint and they went through the federal system to give the federal government dollars towards enforcing of narcotics. people face three to five years in prison which put a taxing on our criminal justice system. it put a taxing on the jail system in the federal government as well as the state government to the point that they did not enforce the narcotics laws as it related to marijuana. >> all right. doctor, the only person that -- dr. williams, from a medical

standpoint? >> one of the comments i wanted to make was in regards to a gateway drug usually there's an underlying mood disorder. a lot of these adults that are using or children, they're self-medicating. i think what joanne said earlier, coping mechanisms. >> the thing that's really setting pot apart from alcohol or cigarettes is the psychiatric aspects of this. an site, depression, paranoia. not everyone. but the brain damage issue is even superseded by the psychiatric problems that can be long-lasting. we're talking about on going use. >> what studies do you have though that prescription drugs and ambien and xanax and valium -- why can't i ever

finish, sean? >> i was defending you. >> we have a prescription drug problem in this country. you can watch -- >> we're out of time. >> they go together. they're not operate. we have a prescription drug problem in the country, but people often overmedicate prescription drugs. >> each generation that smokes pot with animals gets fatter, less anxiety, germ cells get damage, you can end up with generation after generation -- >> isn't it cultural too? >> when you're a bad boy and you eat junk food, you don't get fat in a day. the reason that's here is blinding and shallow and nonmedical. >> because -- >> just because you smoke pot once and get away with it means nothing. >> all right. >> you're saying long-term usage. >> long term, talking about -- >> i got to break. >> shooun, you have to have

political reasoning here. slavery destroyed a country in terms of its freedom just like new york voted for slavery. new york city voted for mclegal lan. you talk about revolutionary history. we had confusion on stopping hitler. these people are confused. they do not know that marijuana will damage their children generation after generation. we'll pick it up when we come back. do you remember when president obama said this? >> i discovered it didn't make any difference whether you smoked reefer in the sparkling new van or the dorm room. >> remember that? it's no wonder it's becoming more and more socially acceptable to smoke weed. we're going to examine who's to blame for that cultural shift. we'll continue with this very, very mild-mannered studio audience next.

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>> that's because he's so high. >> me too. we both are. >> you wanted to answer his question, go ahead. ask him. >> the problem here is we're taking something bad with something illegal. i don't want to go to jail because someone decided i wasn't using a drug in moderation. i use objectioncy con continue. that's heroin. i trust people to use their own medicine ration. >> since i work in hollywood, i write about celebrities every day. you have people like miley cyrus posting pictures. let's bring up the fact that president obama, one of the people that he brought through his campaign is jay-z. he's a well-known former drug dealer. >> that's exactly the point is

people that are in the public eye are defacto role models. they want to push the envelope and that this is cool. >> they did great with their lives. >> not everyone that smokes a joint is going to become addi addict addicted. but we want to create a culture that encourages people to be the best they can be. >> locking people up for what they choose to put in their bodies. did you listen to the cop? about what he did on the streets when he tried to enforce this? that is not moral. >> noah. >> this is part of a really cyclical process in american history. we had a problematic debate about alcohol which gave way to pro hi bags which -- prohibition that celebrates it now. you're in danger of going too fard and pushing too hard one

way or the other. >> if we legalize the drugs, all drugs like gavin is saying, that means we walk the streets with people in crack induced states of psychosis. >> if i live next to denver park, i might have a different point of view. >> sean, we have alcoholism, we have people drinking too much, killing people. my point now, we legalize pot in colorado. we have to now with law enforcement be able to test them on the spot like you do an alcoholic. if someone is stoned out on pot it's as bad as alcohol. >> we will take a break. we'll come back. tonight here on hannity. >> this is a jack 47. you can take a look at it. you can see what the bud looks like. you can open it up. you can smell it. >> business is booming in marijuana stores in colorado.

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edition of hannity, stoned america. last weekend, we toured a marijuana dispensary in denver, colorado. they learned pretty interesting things about how pot is being sold so openly today. we get an inside look at a recreational marijuana store. >> when colorado voters approved legalized marijuana in november of 2012, the rocky mountain state made worldwide headlines. setting in motion what some call the colorado weed woom. boom. >> my business went up 20 to 30% during the mornings and 10% at night. >> we are going phenomenal. since the beginning of the year, been able to hire two or three more people that i did not have employed last year. >> the passing of the amendment

has spawn add wealth of new pot businesses. >> thank you, guys. >> more than 160 recreational pot retail stores now call colorado home. one of the largest of these stores is a smoker's one-stop shop. >> it's a recreational marijuana store in denver, colorado. we really kicked into high gear to get a place here. i have ten employees right now and probably hire three to five within the next month. >> it's pretty mind blowing. >> customers can choose from 20 different varieties of cannabis with names like purple erkle. >> on these four different tables, we have five different strains. you can see what the strain is. for example, this is a jack 47. you can take a look at it. you can open it up.

you can smell it. then you can also go ahead and go through here and read about it. it will tell you the thc levels, anything it might taste like, smell like. also the medicinal uses for it. >> if lighting up isn't your thing, the store still offers a wide variety of edibles. >> sue these are jump mys. they are just like the real thing. they're just infused with thc. each container has 100 milligrams. there's ten pieces with 10 milligrams in each piece. if you like chocolates, they're really good. they don't have a huge marijuana after taste. >> customers can also browse through the vast election of smoking devices. >> we have all different kinds. knowing this is a tour is entry, we know they're going to use them for a couple days and trash

them. so we got novelty, fun items. >> agree or disagree, one thing is for sure, buying cannabis in colorado is now as easy as going to the corner market to pick up a loaf of bread. >> all right. great report. >> thank you. >> you want to get rich? >> making millions a day. millions. they are very successful individuals and my thought was we went to high school with the one girl who was so talented and had such a bright future and let hopes and dreams die because they were smoking pot and getting suspended and expelled and i was listening to the doctor saying your brain is developing until you're 30. so everyone in the audience agreed that later in life, maybe you can make some of these decisions but the 20-year-olds smoking it every day. >> brian in the back? hang on, brian, go ahead.

>> my point to ainsley is that same argument can be made for alcohol, very clearly. >> i don't agree with binge drinking. i don't agree with too much, alcohol, either. >> agreed. that's prohibition and we know, everyone knows the prohibition doesn't work. why does it work -- >> back. back. >> let guy answer matt. >> i happen to agree on that point but say i think it's dangerous to sort of make a point based on antidotes. science matters saying i know a guy on either side of this is, that is no way to form policy. >> todd and matt can battle it out when we come back we'll have final thoughts as we we'll have final thoughts as we continue this live edition of when you sat down to dinner with anticipation, not hesitation.

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all right closing thought z with our studio audience. matt, and todd, were kind of

disagreeing here. >> quickly a majority of americans born after world war ii have tried pot. if you try to make this thing illegal. it's prohibition. just like we learned with alcohol prohibition. >> don't think one person on this panel says to make it illegal. >> you're challenge ing the stas we could. we're reacting to the de facto status we could. >> i'm not worried right now about a slippery slope. i am worried about the slippery slope of incarceration. >> here is the government phi hypocri hypocrisy. they send millions of dollars to out law chips . i say no to drugs. you can't compare it to alhoe hol. you can't compare it to alcohol.

>> wait until you drink alcohol with tarara. >> alcohol leads to over 100,000 traffic accidents a year. most of them fatal. we can't use this a reason to make pot legal. pot is going to give us the same problem. >> let's put your medical team in. >> i think there's a lot of problems. the whole idea of the gate way drug. i think people that are more e predisposed to getting addicted to marijuana or other substance z tend to have a disorder. >> everyone who use z marijuana it's a better choice for anxiety management. any time you teach people that it's a solution. >> any kind of addition is a symptom of a larger problem. it's our young people.

problems had due to anxiety. depression. all of these thing are a way to deal with problem. >> look at miley cirus disney channel year and what it was promoting at that time and now what is it. you look at the influence of different factor but drugs have been one of them. >> we just have the cochella valley music festival. i've been before. you see all of these celebrities out there. it's all about changing the culture and telling celebrities too who are moeentor z to young people. >> legalize it. >> illegalize it. >> all right give yourself a big hand thank you all for being with us. appreciate it. that's all the time we have left

this evening. thank you for being with us. we will see you back here real soon. tonight on red eye. coming up on red eye, are our nation's team spending too much time solving r urks birks cubes. what's the most amount money the vice president has ever spent on a haircut. $1200 if that's something weird. and finally why didn't the vice president try to negotiate on a $1200 haircut. >> the truth is that there was no negotiating power. >> none of these story tonight on red eye. >> let's welcome our