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[ applause ] thank you. thank you very much. great audience. and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. well, few stories have disturbed me as much as the tragic story of 15 jrled justina pelletier in connecticut. basically kidnapped by the massachusetts child and family services for 15 months. the reason, her parents are unfit. despite the fact that no one has made a visit to the home of the pelletiers. the connecticut family has not deemed them. in fact, i was impressed that he was as rational as he was, because i'm telling you no if the government had taken my child from me, based on a

25-minute emergency room visit from a resident who had never seen her before, who dismissed the diagnosis of highly qualified of specialists from tufts medical who had been treating her for months, i would have gone billy jack all over someone's face. [ applause ] >> justina's medical condition has dramatically deteriorated since she has been held captive in massachusetts. she has very limited visits with her own parents, and then only with constant armed supervision. now, i've reached out and my staff has repeatedly reached out to the governor of the commonwealth of massachusetts and a spokesperson to the massachusetts child and family services to come on the show. my request was ignored.

the only thing worst than the crime is the coverup. such an assessment appears here. it would appear that a series of bone headed and inept decisions were made by medical personnel by boston children's who then use the dcf to cover their tracks. they ran to the court and presented a bowl of bull droppings. the court gave custody of justina to the dcf. the press started eating their lunch. the governor understandably wants to believe that his agency is competent and he is able to claim that it's out of his hands and in the control of the court. but unless he has a whole lot less power than i had as governor, i'm quite certain if he ordered his agency to petition the court for the release of justina, she would be released within hours. [ applause

[ applause ] . >> the politicians and bureaucrats are all scrambling to cover their rears. who is left to stand up for an innocent 15-year-old victim of state-sponsored abuse? her toergs, friends, a few kraj i couldn't say legislation tors, some of the media and you. your outcry is making a difference. the massachusetts governor says he wants justina returned to her family and that's good. if the family is unfit, why would he want that? i can't imagine the liability the state of massachusetts has incurred in this case. i can't think of any consequences that are too much for the state malpractice has fallen to justina. i pledge to justina, that i will not be quiet, nor stop speaking and speaking out for her.

and i hope you won't either. [ applause ] >> well, there have been some promising vepts this week for justina and her family. on thursday, family spokesman reference patrick mahoney confronted the governor in massachusetts. here's a little part of that exchange. >> release justina pelletier. >> i agree. >> governor work on it. don't tell the pelletiers, don't say you have the details of report of neglect and not make that public, sir. that's outrageous. >> it's confidential. >> why are you making accusations? she doesn't have a reunit i i have indication plan. she wasn't allowed to go to church 14 months in your state. >> we've appeared in court in order to have her sent home.

whether you believe it or not the court has made the decision, not us. >> after that end kourn, a meeting was called on fry friday to discuss how to transfer justina back to connecticut. the reverend was in that meeting and he joins me now as does their counsel who represents the pelletiers. >> that confrontation that you had with the governor seemed to have caused some major changes in this case. you had an encounter, and then the meeting, tell me what's happened in the last few days? >> sure. we confronted governor patrick on all the violations concerning justina. not going to church. not being educated. not getting medication. within three hours of that exchange, i got a phone call from the office of the hhs secretary saying they wanted to meet with me the very next day. we had a 70-minute meeting. i went over all the issues concerning justina, and we put a proposal together which you'll hear about in a a little bit

saying justina needs to return home. here is the proposal, and governor, the eyes of the nation are watching massachusetts right now. governor patrick, secretary, they said they want to bring justina home, let's see what the reunit i i have indication plan is. let's see if they will honor her civil rights and protecting families and let's see if they end this nightmare because parents know what's best for their children more than government or bureaucracy, so the secretary, i want to say i had a wonderful talk with him, we've been communicating. let's hope they follow through and we'll wait for the plan. >> there was a statement that was released from the department of human services in massachusetts. it was in the form of a letter to the editor, and it says that justina should return to her home state of connecticut to receive the services and support she needs close to her friends, family, school, and community. all of that is good.

you know, matt, i want to believe that the governor's just now really understanding the depth of this case. i truly do. i want to give him benefit of the doubt that he has not been well served by his staff who probably told him we got this all covered, don't worry about it. this is a justifiable custody situation. i think that the reverend's enter counterwith the governor made him stop and ask a lot of questions that maybe he hasn't asked yet so what could he do? you've heard me say it, but you are an attorney and i think you understand that what i said earlier in the mono log, if he wants this happen, he can push the right buttons and start the ball rolling. >> he needs to do it very quickly. we're moving on to 14, 15 months that justina has been held hostage with virtual no medical care, education, or access to religious services. no clergee: 14, 15 months she's

been held there. almost as long as the iran kranian -- iranian hostages have been held. we know what happened. they went to court and they said no, she should not return home. despite the fact that all the evidence shows she should return home and the only issue here at all is someone at boston children's hospital, who wrote an article that said one out of every two children when they present with medical problems have nothing medically wrong, it's all in their head. >> one out of two. that's a pretty bold statement to make that half the kids in america showing symptoms are faking it. >> she wrote an article about that very thing. justina's -- went to the hospital and they said it must be in your head.

they have damage this we hope the damage is not represent -- repairable. he can petition the court and say let justina go home and he can do that. >> the governor said to you she needs to be home with her family. if they are unfit, why would you want her to go home to her family if they are abusive to her? what's happening this week in massachusetts with the legislation ors? >> there's a lot happening. there's legislation being presented by representative lyons and lombardo. it has to do with the financial care. they are -- dcf is in serious financial straits. on tuesday, justina loves stuffed animals. we're going to be putting them on the statehouse steps in

massachusetts. we're going to debate this legislation. governor, i think it's critical and everyone in the audience has to understand if it can happen to this family, it can happen to anyone in america. we need to stand now. and that's what we're doing. >> before i close it out, we just have a few seconds. legally what are the steps you are taking on behalf of the pelletier family? >> we filed a habeas corpus, to get her out. to let her go. we've also filed an appeal as well. we are also filing civil rights claims against those responsible. we will hold them accountable for this. they are not going to get away with this kind of abuse. and we will do that against boston children's hospital and dcf and anyone else who has been involved in this absolute atrocity. we're moving in multiple different levels, state and federal to make sure she gets home quickly. >> thank you for your efforts you've put torth forth. i'm grateful for my audience and

everybody who continues to put pressure and we'll continue this until she's home with her family. >> i also wanted to update on the case of five-year-old jeremiah oliver. he was under massachusetts dcf care when he went missing. we brought his story earlier this month as a result of problems. on april 18th, his body was found along a highway in sterling, massachusetts. his mother and her boyfriend are facing with kidnapping and other charges. they have not been charged with his death. they are now calling for more social workers to handle the overload of these cases. we'll be right back with greg gutfeld right after this. if yo. go to mikehuckabee.com you can connect on facebook and sign up to follow my ♪ foghorn sounds loudly ♪ here's a good one seattle... what did geico say to the mariner?

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he's the co-host "the five" and host of red eye right here on the fox news channel and he's also the author of a new book call "not cool." welcome greg gutfeld. one of the thing that i love about your book you have a list of people that you called free radicals and you even named me as a guy that you really honestly think i'm cool or are you afraid to bump me in a hall? >> it had absolutely nothing to do with getting on your show. >> oh, nothing at all? >> no. the governor is immune to anybody's opinions about himself. he has what's called a code, and he's not only right, it's something that's very important, tes persuasively right, even when i disagree with him with things, he is persuasive with

his arguments and this is a big problem i find in all ideologies and specifically with conservativism and libertari libertarianism. i think that's been an issue with our candidates. if you are up against president obama who is cool, but where does that get you? nowhere. he was persuasively aggressive. what we -- you play bass, which is the least cool instrument. >> oh, no. the coolest of all. . you are not ashamed to play the bass. the problem with this book, though, is that when people hear about it, they think it's about hip people. it's not. it really is about a mind set, the subverse sieve mind set that says all tradition, all family, all things that work is bad. that's why this book for me is

the most important book for young people that's out there right now, no one has told them in this manner. parents will tell their kids don't listen to people who want you to do bad things and that makes you want to rebel. this thing is actually explaining to you why it's bad. why there's no inherent value in doing something that is against your own interests and no one has told kids that way without sounding like a dork. >> you know, my favorite chapter of the book was one called southern discomfort and it's about the south and as you know i'm a proud southern boy. >> yes. >> nothing about the south that i'm ashamed of. i love the south. i would rather have cornbread and catfish than i would have caver. you paid a great compliment to southerners and said they are misunderstood.

>> whenever they play out southerners, they play these red neck, multisi labbic stupid people. the fact is, where are the worst crimes in recent times taken place? not in the south. if you look at the gosnell mass murder, that's in philadelphia. you see what happened in the aeririel castro household, in cleveland? these are cities. why did that happen? because of a lack of neighborly concern. when you are in these cities which are now becoming des owe late wasteland, no one is wanting to get involved. the south is predicated on getting involved. it is knowing your neighbors. it's like if there's something going on over there, you check it out. >> yeah. [ applause ] >> and people still speak to each other in the street. they pull over to the side of the road when a funeral

procession comes by. they help a total stranger if somebody has a tornado that hits their house. it's just the way we live. >> the only flaw of the south is perhaps they are too friendly. i spent -- i went to like 31 cities in ten days and many of them were in the south. it was incredible how much food they gave me and also to a cliche, how much moon shine? people actually gave me -- i mean, no hip new yorker is going to give me moon shine. but some kid comes up, some southern conservative kid with tattoos and a nose ring, i made this in my garage. >> greg, the book is great and one of the reasons i certainly wanted to have is you said i was cool. not many people said that. >> you are good. you are not cool. there's a distinction. >> not cool is the name of it, by greg gutfeld. so great to have you here.

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least thing they should have to worry about is that their own government would kill them with inattention. this is unacceptable and i hope that no one will allow this whole concept of letting these veterans just be put open the shelf and wait to ever get acceptable or tolerable. we owe it to the veterans of this country to treat them better than that. [ applause ] absolutely have to happen. nevada ranch cher cliven bundy lost a lot of support in his fight against the government when he made derogatory comments about african-americans later this week. >> are they better off and are they happier when they are in the south with chicken and gardens and children around them and their man having something to do?

are they better off? >> well, i'm pretty sure, mr. bundy you are not better off for making statements that nobody would defend. the people who have been supportive of you have run from you about as fast as anybody could go for the obvious reason that the comments were utterly just objectionable and deploesh are ploshl. a lot of people are standing up for had nothing to do with mr. bundy personally or anything he may believe. the issue and i want to make sure you understand, the issue for many of us was was it necessary for the federal government to escalate the problem that was created there, this whole idea of his cattle grazing on federal land to escalate it to the point that they were willing to point high powered arrive -- rifles at

citizens of united states and threaten to kill them over cows eating grass. i'm not defending cliven bundy. maybe he should pay, but you don't shoot somebody over it and that is an issue i is not lost on any of us. [ applause ] crime is so bad in chicago that local subway shops are putting up bulletproof glass between the employees and customers. is that going too far? well, not according to a woman who works right next to the shop. she told the newspaper it's not odd it just depends on the owner wanting to keep all employees safe. folks, our cities are in a real mess when you have to put bulletproof glass at customers and its employees at a place that makes club sandwiches. chicago is a city that's

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it's great to have you back. i know this meeting was a very significant one as you had this conversation with the president. you used the term that it was unsettling. why? >> well, it was more of the same. there was no new information. the president and the administration was pushing at the insurance kmigers to hold rates down. all along they have been saying that they believed that insurance rates were going to be held down, premiums were going to be held down for 2015 but they are putting pressure on us to do the job that they don't want to do. number one, and can't do, number two. in addition to that, they are asking us to hole back on consumer protection by usurping our authority to regulate navigators. that's unsettling for us. our main responsible is to make sure that consumers are protected in ohio. >> i would love to be a part of that meeting. when you get all the commissioners together, people like yourself all across the country, they all have same

responsible. that is to regulate the insurance industry for the people of their state, that there are fair prices, and the product does what it says. it's your job to again the people of ufer state. all of you come together and you hear the president. one of the ceos of the insurance companies, aetna, has said the president has done a lot of these decisions on the fly. did that bring any audible gasps in the room when he said that on a conference call? >> obviously, it's very concerning to us. it's something that i have been saying for the last couple of years. every time the obama administration takes it upon themselves to make a change in the law, delay the law, it creates havoc in the marketplace which obviously makes it much more difficult for insurance companies to set their premiums, scpen ultimately the biggest concern is impacts consumers.

consumers looking to purchase health insurance are paying the price. premiums are going up. as he said that he believes half of the increase, that they are experiencing will be because of these delays, and it's very concerning to us. it's a policy, it's a law that's not working in the state of ohio, and every time they make any kind of change, it makes it worse for ohio consumers. >> oregon was one of most enthusiastic states about obamacare when it first came out. this week, they threw up their hands and said we will just let the feds do it. how significant is it that oregon just said we're done, we can't make this work? >> i think it's very significant. first of all, you've got a state that from the beginning was all in favor of obamacare, was preparing to run their own state-based exchange. obviously, it did not work at all for them. you see what's going on in the

federal exchange. the website is still not fully functional and i think it reinforces why governor casic and i said no and we're not going to be involved in what would be a mess for ohio consumers. >> we appreciate your insights and understanding of the issue in a way few people have been able to articulate. thanks so much for joining us today. >> thank you, governor. a new film that celebrates fatherhood and traditional marriage causing so much controversy. i'll ask jim daley next. he's from focus on the family. stay with us. get all your favorites all day, every day.

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>> our family would be a lot happier and i probably wouldn't have ended up down the road that i went. >> all the clips you've just seen are interviews taken with people who are incarcerated. the film irreplaceable is schedule to be released in theaters. it's getting a lot of backlash. joining me now is president, focus on the family, jim daley, who produced the family. >> i had an opportunity to see the entire film. it was very powerful. it was powerful because it was subtle. it wasn't hit you in the middle of the nose kind of film but it drew you in and i couldn't find anything controversial, but, jim, this film has been attacked. why? help me understand this. >> i don't understand it, either. i think basically if you talk about family, you talk about natural traditional marriage, a man and a woman, that's controversial in this culture today and this film really talks

about the importance of marriage, one man, one woman. >> it's interesting, some of the critics even tried to get it out of theaters, tried to get it cancel, it said your portrayal of traditional marriage was right wing marriage. i never heard that term before. >> think of that. my jaw dropped when they told me that. this is the fathom group and working with a couple of theater chains. they threatened to drop the film. it says it's that right wing style of marriage. >> what was the biggest take away that you felt as the film was being produced that you feel like the viewer is going to say, wow, that really is a real part of fixing the culture and getting the family back on track? >> i think that's it. i think again we concentrate in this country about the fringe. you know, that 3%, 5%, tha that .001% of people who are doing things differently. what about the 80 or 90% of us that will do it normally?

how do we get our strength in the culture? where do we get the reinforcement? two groups headed toward divorce, one pulled back, five years later, 85% of them were happier if they worked through their confrontation and their conflict. those that went forward with divorce, 80% of them were less happy. we need more strength in the culture to work through difficulty. we're so self-centered, we got to do better in our marriages. >> a lot of people say, jim, you are the head of focus of the family. what do you think about broken pieces, broken families? >> i had four father types. i had an alcoholic father who divorced my mom when i was five. i had' stepdad when i was eight. walked out in the funeral of my mom when i was nine. ended up in foster care. and my brother who i lived with

in high school. when we talk about the importance of fathers, i think i know a bit about that. >> well the passion of your own heart toward really helping people to understand the value of fathers comes through in the film. it's a very powerful film. i hope people may 6th. how do we know where it's going to be? rng you can going to the website, irreplaceable. it's over theaters across the country. it's 7:30 in every time zone. we need people that support traditional family to show up that night. >> it's a powerful film and it's encouraging to see that there really is hope for our culture and for our families, the very bedrock of our civilization. jim daley, thank yous so much for joining us. honor to have you here. [ applause ] coming up, country singer, danny greago with a patriotic

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his day job is being a country singer but he's also a fisherman and a hunter and he's a patriotic who is a supporter of our troops. he's got a new album, the single "coast is clear" just hit the top 30. please welcome danny greigo. the song that you are going to do today is a great song. i love it you but there's something really special about it, danny and you have decided you are going to donate the proceeds of this song to our veterans. this is a passion of yours.

tell me why. >> yes, sir. a major in the armed forces getting ready to go on his fourth tour of duty asked me to write a song for his wife. i said i'll throw it up to the man and i will see what gives m. lady liberty blew in the door. it has taken on a life of its own. i have got to sing it for the joints chief of staff. >> the charity this is going to go to is by a friend of yours leroy cisco. he devoted his life to helping provide housing to wounded veterans in afghanistan and ira iraq. >> that makes him a good man.

>> it goes to the troops as opposed to other things. >> this is off the album. it is that beautiful song. it is called "lady liberty." ♪

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♪ ♪ (cheers and applause) >> the song is "lady liberty." i love the song. i know you are going to love it. i hope you download it because that helps our veterans. i will be back with closing thoughts. stay with us.

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>> this past week marks the 50th anniversary of president johnson declaring a war on poverty. on friday i spoke at an event in kentucky in martin county the very community lbj traveled to announce what would become a $21 million effort in spending to end poverty. 50 years later the poverty rates about the same. you would think the government would look at the amount spent and minimal impact and declare maybe a new model needs to be launched. then you wouldn't understand government. 50 year the and $21 trillion later some think we need to spend more money. i love the people that i met at the event. these are people who know hard work hard times and sometimes hard luck. they aren't hard people. they care deeply about their community and each other. they reminded me the real hope

of ending poverty is not a government program but empow empowering people with hope resilience and character. there are those that lived in substandard housing and who don't have food. it hit inez especially hard. it doesn't help the current administration declared a war on jobs when it comes to the coal miners. but poverty isn't just an economic condition it's a spiritual condition when people quit dreaming and hoping and believing they get stuck in the poverty run. many people started bopoor but didn't stay there. education hard work and breaks along the way has been the ticket out for many americans. poverty can make it difficult, moral poverty is even more devastating. in 1964 only 87 percent of babies born outside of families of two married adults.

in 201229 percent of white babies 52 and a half percent of white babies and 72 percent of african american babies were born into single parent homes. if poverty is a money issue we failed. the facts show that poverty is very much a marriage issue. sounds rather outdated but when marriage comes before children instead of having children and then getting married the poverty rate plunges. i don't doubt this the sincerity of president johnson but i doubt the sanity of this nation that would keep spending trillions for an effort that didn't appear to be working. we ought to feel deeply about poverty and eliminating it. how about encouraging marriage and moving money management to the local level and giving way to washington. make sure people have something government can't give but churches can and that's hope. >> that's it for now. this is mike huckabee from new

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