on and i was angry that the people that mattered most to me would not. such is life. sometimes we can only grasp its meaning when it is suddenly gone, period. this is fox news alert. the nba says a decision it coming tomorrow after these racially charge remarks by the 81-year-old owner of the los angeles clippers, done sterling and his 38-year-old girlfriend were leaked over the weekend. tmz had the tape. >> people call you and tell you that i have black people on my instagram and it bothers you? >> yeah, it bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you are associating with black people. do you have to? you could sleep with them, you could bring them in, you can do whatever you want. the little i ask you is not to promote it on that and not to bring them to my games. >> well, the comments have

understandableably set off a firestorm of emotion in the sports media and political world. >> when ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance, you don't have to do anything. you just let them talk and that's what happened here. >> you can't understand how hurt i was and also i was hurt for all african-americans and all minor its. he shouldn't own a team anymore. >> magic johnson, a very classy response, said some very important things. >> and he's a legend in basketball. i think that he should not own a team. i agree with magic johnson, and he should sell the team and he should sell it quick because eric i don't see who is going to want buy a clippers jersey, jops their licensing, i don't see them going anywhere but down. he has not said one word to stop

the bleeding. i think he owns magic johnson an apology, the league an apology, who is going to get to play for him? where is he going to find players? >> finally, i can go play. if i could do this, i will sign up. it will be my only chance to be a professional nba player. obama said it best, the offense speaks it for itself. in my opinion this is actually a very positive experience because it's so hideous because it's rare. we don't hear these things anymore, and so the almost outrageous is necessarily. as pure mockery, there was guys that showed up to the sign, the guy brought a black guy. that's how you deal with this. you deal with this deep mockery, you make fun of this pitiful man. america is in a great place.

this stuff, it's like coming across a grotesque car accident. it stands out. it's not mundane. it disgusts you. >> actually, they had an opportunity to come out of this stronger before if they come out with the right reaction. what's the right nba reaction? >> well, i don't know what the right reaction would be. i was thinking about because an dree are i can't and i have all done this crisis communications work in the past and in the legal profession, you could have like the worst criminal and they still are deserving of some sort of public defense in the court of law. in this situation, if i was in public relations today, i wouldn't take his case. i don't think he deserves defense and so he will just be out there on his own, in his ses pool of agreed and after va wrist. >> i've heard a lot of pundits say, you know what he's old. he comes from a generation where racism is a lot more prevalent.

>> the thing that's going to catch up with this guy is dollars and cents. he already had a problem with renting his apartment units. nobody is going to start going to these games in droves anymore. they have had one protest already. the players turned around their jerseys. i think it's going to be hell every place he goes so i think dollars -- the question i've got is can the nba force this guy to sell his team? i don't know the answer. >> i think they can only do it if he had financial problems. he doesn't. by the way, that team is now worth somewhere between $# 550 to 600 million. some of the advertisers have started to drop. car max, virgin air, state farm.

that's the free market working. >> that's how decisions are made and should be made. you also brought up the age thing. they bring up recent examples of racism and they tie it to old people. if you are 81, you were in your 40s in the 1960s, so you know better. you know better. >> 150 years old. >> you weren't in the civil war. so the idea like old people are still like walking around with these notions is baloney because you actually were of prime age when this stuff changed. >> i was going to say not even that. it seems to me like rich people, he thinks because he has so much money he's allowed to be a bigot which of course is not the case because everyone around him is likely a stepford staff that just nods. no one calls him on the carpet.

the golden rule, he who has the gold make the rules. nba cannot force him to sell unless his team becomes insolvent. i think that's a very real possibility. i don't see people buying tickets. it could be insolvent very quickly. >> this is a really interesting twist to this. donald sterling has a long rap sheet when it comes to racial controversy and anyone in the know knew that, according to bryant gumbel. >> i guess i'm surprised that anyone is surprised. donald sterling's racial history is on the record. it has cost him money. it cost him his reputation long before this and so i'm kind of amazed that anyone is surprised at this time. >> so gumbel says the sports world knew and you know al sharpton would insert himself into the mix. listen. >> the national basketball association must suspend him or must say that we're going to

remove any kind of imprimatur if he's the owner. you cannot have someone on the nba team and have these kind of attitudes. >> sharpton knew too. everyone i knew about thighs race controversies so why was the naacp planning to give donald sterling a lifetime achievement award and why did sharpton agree to be honored at the same event, if everyone knew about this man's racist past, including sharpton himself. >> i guess he's supportive. the other thing about the previous discrimination lawsuits, he paid them. it was supposedly over with, and he did nothing between that and

this that would indicate -- >> you go back and you cited one of the examples where sterling got -- he paid a $2.4 million payout for racial discrimination. doesn't the naacp know that or are they just for sale? >> i think that is a very, very derogatory and terrible thing to say. >> they didn't do their homework. >> my guess is that they have honored people who have a past -- you know, sometimes people can say people change. he didn't, but obviously there's an opportunity to give yourself a second chance and i would certainly not say the naacf is for sale. >> before they give him the lifetime achievement award, i would think they would check for a past of discriminate tory actions. >> how hilarious, the naacp backed the wrong horse. if only there was a recent example of this occurring on the right. >> also, it's a lifetime

achievement award, not a most improved award. >> he's a liberal. he's a democrat. he's a reminder that the democrats mastered this stuff. >> i'm glad you mentioned that. you hear a lot about cliven bundy. you don't ever hear that this guy has donated to democrats, he donated to grey davis. this guy is a democrat. >> the naacp is an arm of the democratic party that's more concerned about money. we've talked about this on the show numerous times. it doesn't really care about the advancement of colored people as its name blatantly states. he has given plenty of money. they believe that can hide a lot of sins. it's the worst kind of hip pock

crass si. >> to suggest the naacp is not doing more to advance black people, they are in court all over the country on racial discrimination suits. they were active. they were the first one to do it. you go back to the original part of the civil rights laws. >> that was a while ago. >> and they have been very good. >> it's like now for woman. do nothing for women. >> how do you defend the fact that they are giving this man a lifetime achievement award when he had several instances of racial discrimination, he was fined $2.5 million, he clearly has made racist comments in the past and currently? >> how do you defend that hair? >> it's a difficult thing to defend. they pulled out and decide not to do it. i don't know the thinking about it. i would like to see other people who got lifetime achievement awards who may have in their past had some racial controversy.

>> there are so many examples of what a lifetime acheex award would mean and probably having none of that in your past would be one of them. if sterling was a ceo or if he was a politician, it would be a different outcome, wouldn't it? he literally can decide to stay and own this team continuously if he wants to. >> he could. some politicians can as well, when you have scandals there are some that decide to hold on and power through and do a good job for their state and they can get through it. a little less likely now in the 24-7 news cycle. there's a lot more buzz that builds up to something else. who does he think was playing for his team? these are all black people that are making him really successful. i think on the other point of people not going to the games, it's also do you want to be caught wearing an l.a. clippers baseball cap or jersey. an example of how an

organization could perhaps get blinded by the idea of somebody or something and that was when george w. bush, when he nominated bernie karrik for department of home land security and that nomination crashed and burn and everybody on the other side of that announcement, didn't you know all the problems with him? how could you not have known and i guess in some ways you can just not see the forest for the trees on something like this. it's hard to understand how the naacp could have missed this but it has happened. >> everybody has a jerk on their side. we've learned it in the last couple of weeks. come on. >> black community, both churches and the naacp forgave george wallace before he was dying. there are times, i think, when people say all right you got a terrible past, you are forgiven because you are willing to step forward and say you were wrong.

this guy has not. that's the difference. >> it's still early. a couple housekeeping notes here. i said he was democrat. he's a registered republican but yet he's donated to quite a few democrats. he's donated to democrat as well. and there are 15 minutes of tape released so far and it's crazy some of the stuff he's saying. there are 45 minutes and maybe he's quiet until more comes out. >> how do they get the tapes? >> that's what i want to know. she had to give it to them, right? >> tmz is now the place to go to shop. >> doesn't it sound like she gave them tapes? >> i recorded so much tough of you, bob and when i pull that, it's going to be millions. >> that was a very clear tape. >> she clearly recorded it and was planning on doing something with it. >> is it a woman scorned type of thing? >> it could be. charles barkley, the man who

exactly says what's on his mind at all times, said this. >> this is the first test of the commissioner. he has to fine him and suspend him immediately. we can mot have a owner who -- we are a black league. >> a black league, why? >> well, because 84% of the players are black. i mean, well, i think it's fair to say if you were to say about -- what would you say about the nba, just give you five points? you would say one of those points it's dominated by black players. >> if wayne gretz sci said about hockey we're a white league, would people -- maybe there would be no outcry, they would shrug. it is like the aarp mocking the elderly. >> the issue with his attitude too when he talked with the

players, i guess he could go to eastern europe but his attitude on that tape is not that these players helped me build an empire. it's that i made them rich. the way that he looks at -- >> he looks at them like the help. >> it has nothing to do with being republican or democrat. this guy is a jerk and it's his money that clouded it. they are the help. >> the help are supposed to stay in their quarters and they can play and they can't be with everybody else is what his -- >> final thoughts anyone before we go? we go. let's leave it right there. ahead on "the five" it's no wonder why the ratings are way down on meet the press, david gregory invited tony blair on the rise of extreme iism -- islc extremism and then blamed him for it. that's next.

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former u.k. crime manipulatester tony blair issued a new warning to the west, confront the growing threat of radical islam.

he went on meet the press but he probably didn't expect he would be blamed for it. lynn to this question. >> isn't the legacy of your leadership and that of president bush in part responsible for the reality did you? did you, did president bush, did the west fail to deal with the extremism you talk about today appropriately in afghanistan in a sustainable way? >> i think we did but i think we've got to recognize one thing very clearly. this is a long battle. this ideology, it's not going to be defeated by an engagement in afghanistan, in iraq or even in these individual arenas. it's going to be devoted over a long period of time -- defeated over a long period of time. dana, i don't know how tony blair remained so calm and didn't reach over the table and smack him right across the face. i guess david gregory didn't remember the '93 world trade center bombings or even the radical attacks over the years.

how can he go there? >> i spent the last few hours trying to think what was in his head. i know him. i know him. he covered all -- i don't know about the 1993, i don't know where he was in 1993, but certainly 9/11 and all of the response after that. i wonder if he was just trying to be provocative, which he was, and of course have always admired tony blair and i think that the tendency of americans to blame themselves is a terrible trend and we thought back against that for a long time and if you look at the words of tony blair and george w. bush during those early days of the fight after 9/11, it was all about the long struggle, the ideolo ideologic struggle, that we're not at war with islam. they were moderate in their words, and their actions.

that election in afghanistan, they ended up with a pro western president out of that. >> bob, whether you agree with george bush's policy or not he made it a central issue to go after radical islam. you've been very vocal about your thoughts about radical islam on this show. do you think david gregory was being provocative? >> i think to suggest that somehow this was the creation of radical islam is silly. he has no notion of history but having said that, there are those of us who believe unequivocally to this day that the invasion of iraq unleeshed forces into the extremist forces into that movement and gave iran an opportunity to become the major power in that region. before that, hussein had iran tied down. now, iraq is scpoert exporting radicals. i didn't see the need for it.

>> go ahead, dana. >> bob, it doesn't lead anywhere, this is what he believes. there is absolutely no proof of that. >> proof of what? >> we sit here and we have to listen to how al qaeda is on the run and zes i natd and now because of a david gregory question on meet the press, you come up with all these fanciful notions that iraq is exporting al qaeda. >> you do not believe that iran rose and got much more powerful after the iraqi war? >> i believe that the middle east is safe today, because if you wanted to have a nuclear arms race between iraq and ran, you would tra that. >> what about al qaeda is on the march because this president has withdrawn and not really addressed the issue of radicalism? >> i don't want to talk about the blown red lines, whether you

use drones or sanctions or rhetoric. it's not wonder that al qaeda is em boled by it. let's talk about david gregory just a second. there was talk whether they were going to remove him at nbc. a lot of people say you know why because david gregory is so left ln leaning, he would go back to where tim russert was, you knew he was liberal, but he was fair and balanced, he always asked the right questions and he would go at it from a middle of the road point of view. on the very week that people are blaming him left leanings on the ratings slide, he goes there again. he goes further. asking one question is one thing, the way he framed it. it wasn't a question. it was a ideologic commentary. >> the only thing that works

above david gregory's neck is his hair. to what he says, the only thing that is responsible for islamic extremism is islamic extremism and any excuse for that behavior just emboldens and perpetuates its existence. the war on terror is exactly what tony blair said. it require the same commitment that terrorists have on ruining our lives. the condominium must be lifelong -- the commitment must be lifelong. you have to understand that. sometimes i wonder if we do. >> what he said, we have to go to war to do this? every place we have this? do we have to put people on the ground and go to wars? i don't think the answer is yes. we've done a pretty good job of holding down terrorism. when you say al qaeda? what do you think the definition of al qaeda is today? >> i think it's funded by iran

and it's throughout the world and by the way if i don't think they are emboldened, did you hear the latest idea that's come out of the al qaeda leader? >> who are they? >> the al qaeda leader. i can't remember the guys name. >>s he's hiding up in the mountains. >> instead of killing westerners, take americans hostages. >> they use it as a franchise. >> i think it's both. i think it's turned into a desegmented movement but it's also organized in other ways. there's a naivete on the left if you believe that if you are nicer to the radical islamists -- >> that's not what we believe at all. >> it was a bunch of butt kissing and in fact that made it worse. actually, that made it worse. that ignited radical islam. it gave radical islam green light to organize knowing they

have a president -- >> bob, don't say it. think of ponies, little ponies. there you go. that was a close one. i saw the swear jar exploding. >> we were going to get to another topic but you and i just basically blue up the rest of the block. literally and figuratively. >> is there not another topic? >> there is. but we don't have time because we were inviting. sh -- fighting. dana is going to tell us about a congressional candidate who is facing attacks from an unexpected group of people. coming up next on "the five." ♪ can you hear it?

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there's an openly gay candidate running for congress in california. not surprisingly, carl demaio

has been the target of homophobic attacks. what is surprising is where they are coming from? the left. he may not be typical gop candidate but he doesn't think his sexuality is what sets him apart. >> i think the most unique part of my candidacy is that not that i'm gay but i'm running on a record of getting substantial reform done. >> i heard about the attacks against him from the left and it reminded me in 2002 when congresswoman couldn't connie morello was running. and to me, when i found out that the lesbian by sexual gay trans sexual groups were working to

sabotage his campaign, i felt like i had to write something. >> and you write it in this piece, and it's a terrific piece and what you are referencing it how the left took out a group that basically pose as someone who is supporting him to raise money and they were fined for it which is the dirt i didn'test in politics. some on the left believe they have a monday nop pli on women and minorities and gays and this is that classic case. i thought for so long we were told by some on the left that our sex lives were not important. remember with bill clinton, it's a private matter let's not talk about people's sexual preferences. why is this on full display? contraception. our sex lives is front and center. they are going after every aspect of your life. it's a total progressivism.

a front of the first amendment. this is what they stand for and they reveal the worst side of themselves. >> he was orphaned when he was 13. his dad left his mom two weeks before she died. he went to georgetown. he passes on a bipartisan basis pension reform and then he decides to dedicate his life for public service and run for office. what i ask is what sort of quality are they fighting for if not the kind of success that he achieved? >> they certainly should be, this is a rogue group of liberal democratsr democrats who have no right to do. how about the right? >> i'm not going to try to turn into this something about the right. >> i'm asking you specifically are there any conservative groups in that district who have attacked him one way or another? >> yes, and i point that out. that it hasn't been universal,

however what he does say is that when the photo shopped ad came out and the egg -- ethics community fined them. no one defended him except for the right. and he said that he has found more inclusion, more tolerance and more acceptance from the republicans than the democrats in the district, and greg, president obama is going to go and fund raise for the white male middle aged straight freshman democrat in may. dupg any of the press will ask him -- >> why is he so homophobic? that's what i want to know. that shows the fundamental hypocrisy about politics. why would you play the race, gend gender, and sexuality card so

much? the approximate bsh to keep from doing that, you play these cards to constantly. >> who are you? we're talking about a specific group here in san diego. and not all democrats and not -- >> but none of the groups stand up for him. the victory fund, the human rights campaign, they all actively work against him, and eric final words, the republican party has moved however incrementally prabs now in demaio's words, he think he represents the majority of people being open and receptive in the elections? >> it takes time to change. i think the country is starting to realize it's more of a libertarian bent. that's probably the best thing for the republican party.

>> he talks about that. >> is getting a little bit administer -- let's focus on the issues that matter. smaller government. let us keep more of our money. not who we go to bed with. i honestly don't really care but i think bob is right in one respect it does come from both sides and in your point, if anyone that should be defending this guy, it's the gay community. they should be out there pushing the lgbt -- >> at least get to neutral. >> but they really should be, you know, so to speak behind this guy, they should be. >> but one political party touts tolerance and screams it from the roof top. >> and says that we're not. >> carl demaio will be on the record tonight with greta van susteren.

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. giant survey of esmokers said it helped them kick butts. still in new york city, ecigarettes will be banned in bars, restaurants. they are planning on banning sell to kids. >> when you have no argue, what do you have? children. the pouty props employed as protective padding for your knee jerk orthodoxy. if you can't keep your from doing bad stuff, that's not my problem. the fact is the millions of

lives saved from eext cigarettes far outway the hypothetical panic. when an industry arrives for the making, the government arrives for the taking. bozos. you know what's best for kids, getting their parents off smoking. if these cigarettes would be around 40 year ago, a few million kids would be enjoying their parents now and even grandparents. there's nothing more important than grandparents. >> if my mike wasn't hooked to this chair, i will give you a standing ovation. >> that's true about my grandparents. >> incredible. this is a lifesaving device. so banning these in barks restaurants and public places, it's steam, it's vapor. ban showers and clouds and pea pots. i have a question, oh, eric,

regulations are necessary. what kind do you need? >> i think you hit it on the head. it's parents need to do their job. 433,000 people died the last -- at least somewhat associated to smoking and there's no ill effects of an ecigarette that we know. this is a no-brainer. the feds need to get out of the way. why are they banning this in they should be promoting this? they should be talking to kids in high school saying use this instead of this. this will save your life. and they are -- they are all going to try it. might as well try that instead of that. then they won't like it though, maybe. >> it's all based on feeling and perception. people look at this and it looks like it's smoking, it must be bad. >> it reminds me of banning cigarette candy. remember those things? i don't understand what it is about -- what the evidence that this is somehow causing damage to people? the only thing i can say -- think by reading this is they

think it's going to influence young people to smoke cigarettes? who are they kidding? >> remember joe camel. they said that cartoon was going to cause kids to smoke. it was just an ugly dromedary. should health experts be defending ecigarettes or do they have some sort of backing with their patches from pharmaceutical companies? >> i think there's a lot of money on this. especially on the political side. they should be even from a budgetary perspective, less people smoking means lower health care costs, now that we're shifting the health care costs because it's going under government controlled health care. if ecigarettes were around, my father would still be alive. if you have such an issue with ecigarettes and kids and their lungs, you know what, take your science and go to colorado and

no other place has promote smoking and lungs than there. >> it's the tobacco companies. >> i was thinking maybe the gum and the patches too. >> so you use those to stop smoking. there's no doubt in my mind there's a huge tobacco lobby that's behind getting the fda to make that look bad and increase the regs. >> they should make the ecigarettes the kale delivery device, because then the government would say that would be good for you. >> these devices are great for putting health stuff in there. >> the health care industry, because it puts them out of business. >> there's no such thing as secondhand smoke with this. it's vapor. >> hollywood's most eligible

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i know a lot of women were upset to hear the news this week about george clooney. the long time bachelor reportedly proposed to his 36-year-old girlfriend. i want to given you some advice from one bachelor who has been married before. university of wisconsin came out with a study saying that marriage calls a lot of depression among people, that they have side effects that are not healthy. i think probably plenty of healthy marriages out there. be prepared for the following, where are you going? where have you been? you are going to wear that some oh, really, that game is more important than our going to the tulip festival? okay. anybody else have anything else to say? >> one of things in that study is it said that nagging is a problem in a marnl, but i don't think that george clooney would ever to be naged because they have people to do stuff for them. so you don't have to have george

clooney to please hang up the poster in the kitchen that's been there since december. you don't have to ask him to do that. >> eric, do you get naged? >> what's the biggest nag you got? >> topic for a segment for married people ever. no, remember, you have to find someone who makes you laugh and you'll have a great life. it's clear though george clooney is gay. he watches the show. let me explain. for all the ladies out there who think he's amazing, just admitting he's either gay or married, get over it. there's got to be someone -- >> secondly, do you nag your boyfriend? >> i'm not feeling the loss for george clooney. i actually think there's an important lesson. george clooney kept saying i will never do this or do that. isn't being married, as rita rud ner once said the one person you get to annoy for the rest of

your life? >> no, that's bob. >> do you ever get naged? >> yes. >> give me an example? >> smoking. >> yeah. clothes. marriage is fraught with friction because you are taking two sides of the human being, male accident female and you are putting them together. that's what happens. that's how it works. there are two different things, but bob giving advice on relationships is like dana giving advice on how to get things from a tal shelf. >> one more thing -- they wanted to make sure i point out that i was kidding about he's either gay or married because he's off the market. so stop dreaming about george clooney. >> one more thing is up next.

okay. time for one more thing. a quick clarification, earlier, we had a graphic that said donald sterling was scheduled to receive a ncaa award. it should have said ncaap award. >> it's an issue of parent alien nation. actor jason patrick has been fighting for his rights to see his young son. today, the first of his kind ruling, the judge said he's allowed to say his name. his ex-was trying to prevent him from saying his son's name.

he prevailed in court. this is breaking news. and we're very happy for him. it's a small win. >> it is time for greg's prom tips. so obviously it's coming up on the prom. big season. here are tips on asking people to the prom. don't ask a stranger. if it's somebody you know, you have a better bet of them going with you, but the most important thing no drama. the fact is if he's more into the spectacle, then he's less into you. somebody that comes up and asks that takes more drama than a high drama spectacle. >> i am going to use one of dana's dwrasks. i hate these people. i hate these people. i went to the broadway theater

on saturday night. this is not like going to a cheap movie theater. when did they start selling the candies and pretzels and everything, inside the theater like you are in a baseball game. it was annoying to me to listen to this young woman eat three bags of pretzels. think about the actors. they deserve better. l ex-s -- les mis. >> flight attendants are beginning to send out selfies of themselves in uniform. i think it's going to do a world of good for the airline industry. it will be perfectly helpful if you are back to the friendly skies. these are some -- yeah, there you go. now, as long as -- they are not doing anything wrong, as long as their uniforms are on. you get the next one. >> i have to do this again. i have to clarify the clarification. i was kidding about the george

clooney thing. he's off the market. i hope you remember to set your dvrs so you never miss an episode of "the five." see you tomorrow. president obama defends his foreign policy against charge of weakness, saying he's going for singles and doubles instead of home runs. critic insist the administration is not even getting to first base. this is "special report." good evening, i'm bret baier. president obama is relying once again on his go-no foreign policy move, economic sanctions to try to get russia to play nice in ukraine. the president is going after high tech exports to russia's defense industry as well as wealthy individuals close to president vladimir putin. this comes as masked