that john travolta and olivia newton-john played. bill: you're blonded. and i have dark hair. martha: if you want to us play the parts. bill: i could be sandra de, or danny. martha, bye, everybody, see you tomorrow. jon: we begin with this fox news alert. at least 28 people now confirmed dead after two days of violent storms slammed south and central states. tens of millions of americans are still in the danger zone today. hello, i'm jon scott. >> hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. hope you're off to a great day so far. we're concentrate in hardest hit areas in alabama and mississippi. we have a lot of news for you today. the tornadoes that hit, tore off roofs, flipped over cars and knocked down power lines. those electrical wires making very difficult for rescue workers to reach some hardest hit places. many people are simply grateful

to be alive. >> i was waiting for the lights to come back on so i hear the news to see what was going on. i ran and got my purse and got in the closet. i heard the roof come off the house. i say, oh god, the roof is off the house. i know you're going to take care of me. jenna: jonathan serrie live at the scene in lewisville, mississippi. jonathan. >> reporter: jenna i'm standing on top of what used to be still valley mississippi baptist church. many residents are returning to their homes for the very first time, trying to salvage whatever they can. fortunately, many of the residents here were away. many of them were here survived, but there were some who were not so fortunate. now there are active search, rescue and recovery operations underway. a few miles away from here the local hospital, winston medical center, suffered heavy damage

when the tornado passed by, knocking down two walls, damaging a third and cause aghast leak at that small hospital. we spoke with one man who had gone there seeking treatment for rib pain unrelated to the storm. he and his wife were in the e.r. when the tornado struck. listen. >> we was in the e.r. 3. they told us to shut the door and get down. i shut the door and got down. and she laid against the door and against the wall and it started shaking. when it started shaking was it. >> all the windows came out. broke all the windows out of the e.r. >> reporter: and first-responders are asking the general public to stay out of hard-hit areas like this one, if at all possible. they're trying to get heavy equipment n it is already an obstacle with all of the downed power lines. they're trying to keep the roadways clear because there is still an active search-and-rescue effort

underway. local officials are optimistic they will still find more survivors alive and well. jenna, back you. jenna: that clear sky behind you, jonathan, so misleading what transpired over the last 24 hours. >> reporter: so misleading, later this afternoon they're anticipating more thunderstorms. so it is changeable by the hour. jenna: wow, just that window of time. hopefully they get some work done. we're telling our viewers where the storm system is heading and where to watch for it today. obviously good to be on alert. jonathan, thank you very much. >> reporter: certainly. jon: president obama's approval rating taking a nosedive according to a new "washington post/abc news poll." just 41% of americans saying they approve of the president's job performance. mr. obama's lowest numbers yet in that particular poll. here now to talk about what it means for the president and democrats come november, is karl rove, former deputy chief of the staff to former president george w. bush and something of a numbers expert. how do you read these poll

numbers, karl? >> well, first of all, they're reflective of other polls. gallup, for example in their measurement of presidential job approval has the president at or near a record low. one thing that is interesting, let's compare those numbers to october of 2010. the president's job approval is nine point lower just before democrats got walloped in the 2010 tsunami. his handling of economy is seen as worse. except for right direction of the country, 30% think we're going in the right direction. in october of 2010, 27% thought they said it was going in the right direction. with that one exception all these measures are worst for the president. do you trust democrats handle important issues. five points worse than eve of 2010 election. do you trust democrats on economy? three points worse. do you trust democrats on health care? three points worse. do you trust democrats on the deficit? four points worse. the democrats are in worse shape now than in october 2010 when a

tsunami hit them and washed six democrats out of the senate and near record number of democrats for modern era out of the house. jon: you have a lot of respect for juan williams. we'll talk to him differently. he see as glimmer of hope for the president in numbers that are out, particularly that "new york times" poll that came out last week. >> well a "new york times" poll, that juan found some solace in was a poll of battleground senate races and, everyone of those polls they overstated dramatically the percentage of the voters who had voted for obama. for example in north carolina, president obama won the state by two points. the sample had nine points more obama voters in it than they actually had in the 2012 election. arkansas, there were 23% more, 23 points more obama voters than actually voted in the 2012 election. so i'm happy for juan to take solace in them.

i don't think a lot of democrats that i have talked to who looked at those numbers take a lot from them. look, here is the one thing the democrats should take solace from. that is the republicans get cocky, think the election is over and all they need to do is play it safe and beat up on obama for as many manifold sins on the economy and obamacare and fail to offer a prescription for positive agenda for future of the country. if republicans do that, democrats will win more races than they otherwise should do. american people want to know what the republicans are going to do. they made a conclusion what democrats under president obama have done. as long as republicans understand that and go out there and lay out a positive agenda, and also make this a broader issue than just obamacare, if they make this about counter to obama, not somebody who is going to go there and continue to support him blindly, they have got an excellent chance for a big victory. jon: we have a short time left but one of the key questions in any election how is the economy

doing? if you look at some of the numbers from this "abc news/washington post poll", 37%, i'm sorry, 28% say it is getting better. 36% say it is getting worse. 35% say it is about the same. how does that bode for the president's party, karl? >> not good. people are not feeling improvements in the economy in their own lives. this is the first economic recovery in which the median household income has declined. then we have all of the, the effects of obamacare with discouraging full-time work, encouraging part time jobs, all of these things, higher premiums, higher deductible all things fet around the kitchen table by the american people and not helping democrats get a lift from any economic growth there is as anemic in the economy. jon: karl rove from austin, texas. karl, thanks. >> thanks, jon. jenna: new information about the irs targeting of conservative groups. a lawyer for lois lerner, the

former irs official at the center of the scandal, says he wants to address the house before congress votes on contempt charges against lois lerner, he is now calling un-american. our chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel with more on back and forth here. mike? >> reporter: hi, jenna. unusual approach, lois lerner, sending a six-page letter to house speaker john boehner and majority leader eric cantor he be given the opportunity to address the full house before any contempt vote. still leading republicans are calling for lerner, the former irs official to testify both honestly and fully. >> so of course we'd love to have lois lerner at this late date agree to testify, come in and testify, answer questions, such as, why did you send this email? what did it mean? why did you say this? what does it mean? and given that, i personally would, would feel that would satisfy the contempt. >> reporter: attorney william taylor iii wrote, lawmakers

quote, holding miss lerner in contempt would not only be unfair and indeed un-american, it would be flatly inconsistent with the fifth amendment as interpreted by the supreme court. on march fifth, lerner returned to capitol hill but only asserted her fifth amendment right. that was quite different from her approach last may 22nd, the former irs official told lawmakers she was innocent, hadn't done anything wrong, had not broken any laws and had not violated any is rules and regulations and refused to answer questions. today a leading house democrat he wants answers but doesn't care for chairman darrell issa's approach. >> we all want to find out about the undertaking of the irs. i think we'll get far but if the republicans want to play this game of gotcha and going after folks where the evidence doesn't really, substantiate doing some of these things, it is just an abuse of the legislative

process. an abuse of your chairmanship. >> reporter: the house is expected to vote on the contempt measure sometime in may. barring last minute change. at this point it seems rather unlikely lerner's attorney would be invited to address the entire house of representatives. jenna? jenna: interesting. we'll see what happens, mike. thank you very much. in fact we'll talk to republican congressman james lance ford in a little while on this topic. he led the house investigation into the targeting of conservative groups. we'll ask him about un-american comments and what he thinks about inviting the lawyer of lois lerner back to address the house of reps. that is coming up in a little bit. jon: this fox news alert. the supreme court handing a major victory to the environmental protection agency. the high court decided in 6-2 vote, that is pretty rare you get a 6-2 vote out of court, it will uphold a 2011 rule adopted by epa. that rule limits emissions from

coal-fired power plants in order to prevent sending pollution, pollution across state lines. jenna: busy day at the supreme court. we'll talk more about what is happening there. meantime you likely heard a lot about common core as of late. the program is certainly creating a lost controversy with teachers and parents across the country. in fact one of the first states to adopt common core, indiana, just yesterday voted down using it in the state's classrooms. an interesting twist. common core standards are a set of benchmarks students are to learn when they start kindergarten through when they graduate high school. cover english, art, literacy, mathematics. to promote clear, consistent understanding of certain curriculum in our schools. 45 states, d.c., and four territories as we just mentioned, indiana switched. some states are looking to do the same thing. it is becoming a political issue. we have a question, does your child's school use common core

standards? do you know? do you approve of these standards? what do you think? log on to our live chat. let us know. our panel weighs in 1:00 p.m. eastern time. you can tweet me @jennafnc. jon: six people injured after a gunman opens fire in a fedex facility north of atlanta. what we're learning about the shooter and his victims next. and the supreme court hearing a case renewing a the debate about unlawful search and seizure. what do you think about this question? can police search your cell phone without a warrant? judge napolitano weighs in on that, just ahead. when you sat down to dinner with anticipation, not hesitation.

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morning. six people taken to a nearby hospital with injuries, one of them in critical condition. a witness telling the associated press the shooter was armed with an assault rifle and had a knife and bullets strapped across his cheats like rambo. the suspect who was a fedex employee was later found dead of an apparently self-inflicted gunshot. jenna: can police search your cell phone record or your cell phone in general without a warrant? two related cases are being heard by the supreme court today. they're timely given the debate over government surveillance of cell phones and new focus on fourth amendment which protects against unlawful search and seizure. let's bring in judge andrew napolitano, fox news senior judicialnal list. i like to start with a scenario. let's say i was arrested. hypothetical. >> weird hypothetical. jenna: i didn't have a cell phone on me but i had a date book, a schedule with all my contacts and a lot of information. if police arrested me do they

have access to my purse, my wallet, anything that i have recorded on me. >> the answer is generally speaking no. the police are allowed to search what's incidental to the arrest. what is on your person or within your control, to protect them. so they can only look for a weapon that you might have in your pocket or within your reach at the time of arrest they can not look for substantive information from you, without a search warrant. jenna: so that plays into one of these cases, a few of them actually that the supreme court is looking at but one of these situations they are pulled over a guy for a traffic violation and in searching his car they found something. then they searched his cell phone. >> right. jenna: they found that he was connected to a gang-related murder. >> yes. jenna: that is the big question whether or not they were able to do that, to look at the cell phone? >> yes. but the argument that he's making of his cell phone is, was a fishing expedition. they didn't ask me anything about the murder. they didn't have any reason to go there. the second argument is making,

they had my cell phone. they should have been able to go to a judge to get a search warrant in order to enter the cell phone. the police are saying, you know what? it is incidental to an arrest. we never know what we'll find, especially when a person is involved in gang relation because he communicated to some third person, the person that he communicated with via the cell phone he waived hess right to privacy of the i don't think this is close call. i think the cases are pretty strong in favor of requiring the search warrant. jenna: now law enforcement says though, hey, if we get this person, whoever it is that we're looking to arrest and let's say they have information about a kidnapped child on the phone but i have to put the phone in the evidence bag and talk to a judge before looking through it, i may be missing an opportunity to get a bad guy. you say what? >> that the government always fantasizes these emergency cases and this was not an emergency. this was a case for a fishing expedition of the court might very well treat a true emergency a little bit differently. you know, so-called, ticking

time bomb or the child about to be killed by a kidnappers but in this case the police broke into the phone, and just began randomly looking through it, not even knowing or expecting what they were looking for. jenna: another scenario, this is coming up in these case. there is difference between a flip phone. >> yes. jenna: you have a smartphone at your desk and police are questioning you and texting you and lightings up the phone and police can see it. in that case are they able to look at it? >> no. they don't have the right to see that phone. they can only take from you at the time of arrest what they believe might harm them. they could take your phone and your wallet and shoes and belt away from you but they can't examine them. they can't go inside the phone even if something is flashing on its face. jenna: how do you think these case, we're talking about very personal to us and our privacy and our rights. how do you think they're impacted by this ongoing debate about nsa surveillance, government looking into our phones perhaps without us

knowing about it? >> depends who you ask. i think some justices on the supreme court will say the phone is protected depending where you are when you are arrested. in you're arrested in your house it is absolutely protected because the fourth amendment mentions house f you're arrested in your car it is iffy because the fourth amendment doesn't mention car. that is what some justs would say. in 2014 and cell phone and flip phone contain all personal information you never intend to give to police. if they want it they need a warrant. jenna: interesting. i think all of us are very protective about our cell phones. >> i think we do too. i think members about supreme court are protective their cell phones. jenna: really quick, judge, are we at the point in law enforcement wher be able to text a judge, twitter a judge, to get the appropriate warrant that i would need? i'm wondering how law enforcement can use technology to speed up some of the process, to make sure it stays constitutional according to your standards but doesn't slow it

down? >> when i was on the bench we periodically we had weeks where we sat 24/7. i remember police coming into my home wearing gym shorts and t-shirt at 3:00 in the morning telling me what evidence was and they needed, i signed search warrants. a colleague signed a search warrant from back after motorcycle saturday afternoon. judges are almost available. i think tweeting would be going too much. here's why. they must form opinion of believability of police and evidence. that would be very difficult to do from a beat tweet. you would have to look in the police woman's eyes. often a prosecutor, not a cop. tough evaluate what is in their hands. you can't always do that over internet. jenna: you like in person contact. >> i think constitution requires that. jenna: good to see you. >> looking good, jenna. jenna: thank you very much. jon what is in your cell phone? jon: i'm just envisioning the judge on the back of a motorcycle, signing. >> that was not me, jon. jon: i know.

just a picture, just really something else. do they have a helmet that can fit that hair, judge? [laughter] some brand new poll numbers out on obamacare for the president and supporters of his signature achievement. the needle not moving in favorable direction since last month. coming up, why some americans seem to be unhappy with the president's health care law.

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"washington free beacon." they got to their eight million dollar number. why isn't there there more rejoicing in america. >> by administration -- jon: eight million sign-ups, excuse me. >> by that standard, we heard the administration say this is success absolutely should be something people should be approving of. there is time where the approval of the affordable care act should be high, it seems like it should be right now. jon: the president says, just wait. right now there may be bumps in the road as we cause them, down the road, 20 years from now everybody will be rejoicing that america has obamacare. >> over the last four years though that really hasn't been the case. we talked about this last week. you look back at approval polls when they were discussing it in congress approval at best was around 46% and low 40s. i think over the last four years we haven't seen it improving. i don't know if we'll see that happen down the road. we can't possibly predict it. right now there isn't a good track record to say, five or six years people will be really loving it. jon: republicans have generally embraced this repeal and replace

strategy. the president mocks them for all these votes that have been taken in the house to repeal obamacare. what do you think of that strategy? >> i think it is an effective strategy for the most part. one thing i found interesting in the poll, they said 58% of respondents don't supports that type of strategy. they think people should work on fixing the law they have now. that is something if you're a republican,. you should look at that make you somewhat rethink replace and repeal strategy. i think a big part why people are saying that. republicans until last few months, leadership never backed an alternative. we have seen them sort of embracing more ideas actually having a replacement in mid-march. they came out with key tenets for a potential plan. boehner and cantor last week said we want to make sure we're replacing it. you take away from that poll for republicans if they run on replease and replace strategy they have to have an alternative and it can't be one coming from tom price or republican study committee. it has to be one from

leadership. otherwise they will have trouble in 2014 and 2016 in a general election. jon: parts of this law are proving popular. >> absolutely there are. like less contentious once, children staying on plans until 6 and until they're young adults an preexisting conditions. some republicans for instance, in tom price's plan where he proposed three times where he had some solutions for that. republicans if they do want to run on repeal and replace and it be successful they have to have an alternative and one that leadership backed. a lot of them clam pained on that strategy in 202010 and 2012. jon: you think this will become a potent issue in november. >> absolutely. jon: ellison barber from the "washington free beacon." jenna. jenna: documents released on the 9/11 attack that left four americans dead. details on what a paper trail shows. catherine herridge has the details. she joins news moments. lois lerner could still face

serious charges for refusing to answer questions on targeting conservative groups. we'll talk to a congressman about this and her lawyer is putting up quite a fight. that's next. ♪

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including the u.s. ambassador to libya, christopher stevens. chief intelligence correspondent is live in washington with the breaking details. katherine? >> thank you, jon. good morning. new benghazi documents released through a freedom of information act lawsuit lead directly to the white house and suggest the senior adviser to president obama played essential rule, susan rice, for her controversial sunday show appearances where she wrongly blamed an internet video for the terrorist attack. among the more than 100 pages of documents released through judicial watch is a september 14, 2012 email from ben, an assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for strategic communications. this email with the subject line prep call with susan states that one of the goals for her national tv appearances was, quote, to underscore that these protests are in the internet video and not a broader failure of policy. the email was written three days after terrorists killed four

americans, including ambassador chris stevens and was september to a dozen members of the administration's inner circle, including key members of the administration team. the president of judicial watch said the documents read like a p.r. strategy and not an effort to provide the best available intelligence to the american people. >> the goal of the white house was to do one thing primarily, which was to make the president look good, blame it on the video and not on the president's policies. >> also last night, three leading republican senators sent letters to the house and senate foreign affairs committees asking them to compel the administration to explain who briefed rice in advance of the sunday talk shows and whether the state department or white house personnel were involved. fox news asked the white house for comment on the email and what intelligence led to that conclusion that somehow an internet video was responsible for the protests in benghazi.

jon: we have to keep in mind this is all taking place just a month or six weeks before the elections in which al qaeda and its status was something of an important item. >> the september 14 email from him is significant and it was not part of the batch of 100 emails released last may by the administration once the senate intelligence committee said they would not proceed with the confirmation of c.i.a. director until they had those talking points emails. jon: interesting. thank you. jenna: we told you earlier about lois learner's push to avoid contempt of congress charges. her lawyer is speaking out and he says he wants to address lawmakers to tell them why it would be wrong to charge his client after she invoked her constitutional right not to testify before a house committee. he said, quote, holding her in contempt would not only be unfair and indeed un-american,

it would be flatly inconsistent with the fifth amendment as interpreted by the supreme court. oklahoma congressman is on the house oversight and government reform committee. your reaction to those comments. un-american? >> a little surprising to hear it's un-american when you're dealing with someone trying to silence the speech of other americans and that everything we have targets back to her. she goes and does testimony to the department of justice, plants a question in a public meeting so someone asks me about this so i can get it out and then comes before our committee, makes a long statement about her innocence and then is silent. all the time she's trying to be able to silence other people from voicing their conservative opinions. there's a double standard here going. no one is above the law. jenna: her lawyer is comparing what's happened in congress now

to the mc arthur era. >> right now obviously he's trying to stall. he's not trying to actually make progress. his statement is she can't be held in contempt because chairman isa said we may hold you in contempt rather than we shall hold you in contempt. he's saying that one word will make a difference. now we haven't fulfilled all the requirements. this is typical legalese. she did ask for at one point to talk about immunity. our simple question is what do you want to talk about with immunity? she made a statement to the committee, i've done nothing wrong, broke no laws, eye been consistent with all my statements to all the committees and now wants immunity. our question is what is the immunity for? if she broke no laws, she doesn't need immunity. if she broke laws, she also perjured herself on the stand as well. there are a lot of questions we have behind-the-scenes as well. we've recommended contempt. she's not able to provide documents and testimony. we feel like it's very important. jenna: you're going to proceed

with that and you're saying you don't have the time, you don't want the stalling of the lawyer coming in and bringing in more conversation on this. a question on lois lernor. there's been a hyper focus on her. is she the only one that can provide more answers, more clarity to what was going on inside the i.r.s., to prevent it from happening again, or should there be other names to look at? >> there are other names we continue to look at but she is the head of that organization division. she was involved in all of it. we have emails between lois lernor and the department of justice where the department of justice is contacting her saying maybe we need to bring other things to bear for help with this investigation, whether people are breaking the law and we'll go after them as well so there's now multiple agencies that are involved in this both i.r.s., department of justice but all seems to center around her and her office. she's very important to get the clear story. jenna: who are the other names you're looking at? >> i'm not going to list those but there's a lot of people ins. we've gone through cincinnati in

that office, the cincinnati folks got word from washington and we brought folks from washington. they've given us testimony. everyone has given us testimony. they were waiting on instructions. everything is on hold until you get to lois lerner. we was just saying wait. they come can't in and say they were turned down. they were just never approved. jenna: and we've heard from some of the groups and the stalling and how that impacted their personal life. just a quick final question for you, congressman, because we all recently had to file taxes or file an extension. i'm wondering based on the information that you know, how confident you are that there is no political targeting happening right now inside the i.r.s. >> that is the unbelievable part about all of this is we just resolved this 40 years ago with the nixon administration and using the i.r.s. in other ways to target individuals and now we're back in the same thing all over again in the loss of trust. lots of people i talked to in

oklahoma will bring it up to me. i've never been audited before. last year or the year before was the first time i gave to a conservative group and now i'm audited? even if it's not happening, people have lost complete trust in the impartiality of the i.r.s. because now we know there were individuals in the i.r.s. leaking files out to people to be able to get information out they wanted to get out but also, making decisions based on political beliefs rather than staying neutral to everyone. jenna: we expect the vote to come to hold her ko n contempt of congress in may. jon: the l.a. clippers losing some major sponsors after those racist remarks allegedly made by the team's owner. we'll take a look at the case against donald sterling before the nba commissioner speaks out this afternoon.

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at the top of the hour." >> who is the hashtag lucky guy? we'll have to wait and see. >> some stories he'll help us tackle, new campaign ads highlighting so-called women's issues. is it right on the mark? how far would you go for beauty? new trend has some women going under the knife to fit into their favorite high heels. >> outnumbered at noon. jenna: i asked jon, how far will he go for beauty? i have yet to get a straight answer on that. i look forward to the conversation. see you in a little bit. >> fantastic. jon: nba could come down hard on donald sterling after tapes of allegedly racist comments he made that were leaked over the weekend. public outcry has been deafening with many calling on the league to hand down the highest

possible punishment. one team owner is calling for caution. listen. >> what donald said was wrong. it was abhorrent. there's no place for racism in the nba, any business i'm associated with and i don't want to be associated with people who have that position. but at the same time, that's a decision i make. i think you've got to be very, very careful when you start making blanket statements about what team say and think opposed to what they do. it's a slippery slope when you start trying to remove people from the nba or any organization based off their private thoughts they have at home. that's scary. jon: with more now, sports caster and fox news contributor jim grey. what are the nba's options here, jim? >> well, the bylaws are private

amongst the nba owners. however, they do have some pretty wide powers of the commissioner's office. my understanding this morning is from the people that i've talked to is that the commissioner is going to come down very harsh, there's going to be extreme penalties imposed upon don sterling. the outcry, as you mentioned, has been universal. i've never seen the condemnation like this in 37 years of covering sports. what can they do? fine him up to $1 million, suspend him indefinitely, possibly make his players free agents. there's a lot of options to go on the table and i'm told that adam silver, and we'll see this at 11:00 a.m. pacific time, 2:00 your time, just exactly what that penalty is and then they'll have a game here tonight against the golden state warriors at 7:35. 13 sponsors have cancelled with the clippers. protests are being staged outside of the arena this afternoon and this evening. inside we don't know what the

players will do but this has become a circus and this is what the nba does not want at this time and these feelings of donald sterling do not represent how the nba feels or act. jon: it's the other owners, though. you point out the bylaws are private, confidential. it seems astounding in this day and age that something like that could be the case but, you know, it's their league. they own the teams. they don't, i guess, have to release that information to the public but this commissioner is new. he needs to set a standard and sort of like roger goodelh l has done, be very harsh on those that break the rules. >> adam silver has been in this position for an awful long time as the deputy to david stearn. he is a terrific guy. not only will he take a consensus but he has the proper equilibrium, he'll make a great

judgment and he'll be very, very harsh. it's also my understanding that he has consulted with a number of people. he's want to go do and have his due process like every american should be afforded and i think we'll see a very harsh penalty. my sources tell me that it's probably going to be more than what we expect. i expect them to be suspended indefinitely. not allowed to come to the arena, not allowed to purchase a ticket, not to have anything to do with any of the business operations or the player operations of the los angeles clippers and he's going to get the maximum fine that can be imposed. what he can do beyond that, i guess we'll just have to wait and see. i'm told it may go beyond that. jon: economic marketplace is already punishing him. lots and lots of sponsors are pulling out. if you don't have sponsors, you don't have a very valuable franchise if you're not making much money from advertising, is that finally the answer to all of this?

>> yes. it will be. but money is not an issue to donald sterling. he's the largest land owner in beverly hills. he's never sold a thing. he's a multi billionaire. a couple of million dollars here or there are not going to change his life in any way, shape or form. the repudiation, being ostracized by others will have an effect on him. in addition, you mentioned the economic impact. at some point these players' contracts will expire. you'll not have a single player that he can recruit. there's not one guy who is going to come play for the los angeles clippers. guys who were drafted will have to but everybody else won't and that will be the demise of the franchise if he elects or somehow can stay. jon: there's always dennis rodman trying to make a comeback. >> not even dennis rodman would want to be associated with this. jon: the nba commissioner will weigh in on this shortly. a news conference for 2:00 p.m. eastern time. we'll have that live on fox news channel. jenna: deadly tornados tearing

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home. our job was to do the best search we could to make certain there were no other fatalities and we continue to do that today to research the area. for us, we're dealing with the strategy of falthities and the real-life impact on the churches and the school was uninhabitable. groups of kids are obviously supposed number in school right now. jenna: the school is described as being on the border with alabama. are you sharing resources with alabama? how are you approaching this right now? >> right now we're focused on it with our own resources. alabama was a great neighbor for us and the spring storms are too common for both of us and everybody can remember the storm that swept through tuscaloosa two or three years ago killing so many people. we do share resources on occasion. at this point in time, we're

doing it through our own national guard, highway patrol and even borrowed people from the tennessee department of corrections in the search procedure to make sure we haven't missed a thing. jenna: the descriptions we're getting of the area that was affected in your state is really tragic. the national weather service is reporting all homes gone, there's almost total devastation. how much warning did folks get? >> you know, i think that differed in individual cases. i do think it was -- everybody knew the storm front was coming through. you knew about the damage that happened in arkansas and mississippi. what is unpredictable about the storms, as you well know, is you can have the most severe warning possible and nothing can happen or it can touch down somewhere and cause the kind of damage that we have. we have another warning basically for this afternoon and tonight for the state as well as some problematic cells that have been spotted that look like

there's at least some chance, not a good chance that they'll touch down again. our job is to warn people of the horrible reality of last night. people see that this is real. this could happen to us. they take warnings more seriously. jenna: i'm glad that you mentioned today what's happening in your state and the warning for folks just to pay attention and we appreciate the time. we know you're dealing with a tough situation. thank you so much for joining us and we'll stay close and watch what's happening for the folks in tennessee and also surrounding states affected by the storm system. jon: that deadly system tearing through the south is still a severe threat today. millions of americans in the path of tornados. we'll bring you breaking news at the top of the second hour on this dangerous weather. that's at 1:00 p.m. eastern. a story you'll see first on "happening now" a legendary actress sued for what most would consider a very personal issue. how valerie harper can defend

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