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we have been seriously ef'd, feed. incredible. don't blame the airline. they are just more honest. hello, i'm andrea tantaros, it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." well, nba has made a decision on l.a. clippers owner donald sterling, the verdict banned for life. >> effective immediately, i am banning mr. sterling for life from any association with the clippers' organization or the nba. i am also fining mr. sterling $2.5 million, the maximum amount allowed under the nba
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constitution. i will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. >> so what sterling's reaction to his punishment? wel well, "fox news" contributor jim gray contacted sterling. >> i asked him for his thoughts about this. he said no comment. he said no comment, nothing at this time. he said i'm not going to speak about this, i have no comment. he told me prior to this announcement the team is not for sale and he will not be selling the team. perhaps he will have a change of heart knowing he won't have anything to do with the team going forward. >> eric, did the nba go far enough? it sounds lining sterling
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doesn't really care. these are pretty strict sanctions. >> very strict. i think nba did exactly -- they went to the very limit, as mr. silver said, he said they said $2.5 million was the maximum penalty under their constitution. first of all, that's ridiculous. did they go far enough? there are some saying they went too far. they are saying a private conversation held in the man's home, granted. he asked his 38-year-old girlfriend to tape it. she tapes it, she leaks it. he owns the team. how do you ban a guy who owns the team for life? mr. silver went on to say they are going to push the other owners to force mr. sterling to sell the team. i'm not sure they can do that. granted, it may be in their constitution, i think there's a bigger constitution in play here. it's the u.s. constitution. doesn't he -- i think what he said was outrageous. i think it's ridiculous.
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i think it was bigoted and racist, but do they have the right to take property from him or force him to sell property? i'm not sure the u.s. constitution will override them. can i make one quick point? if mr. sterling were being honored instead by the naacp, if you were being honored by the koch brothers for lifetime achievement or the tea appear for lifetime achievement, and this came out in the wake of all that, would the media still treat him the same way, would the media still treat the naacp the same way and the koch brothers the same way, would they have the same treatment to al sharpton, that they would to say the tea party, if that was the case, i have a hard time believing that. >> the nba is coming down. they are saying they can't based on their rule force him to sell the team. we talk about this yesterday, if the team becomes insolvent.
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it sounds like sterling is pretty definite. can you -- defiandefiant, can y imagine a situation where the majority of nba owners would say don't sell the team? >> i think he should be forced to buy a soccer team. the amazing part of this story is last night he went out to dinner. he went to a steak house. if this were me, i would be ordering in, i would be ordering pizza i'm sure on that salad that's not thousand island dressing. the great thing about this is the story is almost essentially over. what we thought would be a five-day story really is a two-day story, the punishment is swift. it's kind of a bumper for us on a slow news day. it's an idiot who says something stupid. this is what happens, but the quick action kind of killed the story and now we're stuck dealing with problems that
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actually affect our lives, like really big moral political issues, racism is bad but it's an old bozo, there are racism all over the place from people who aren't billionaires. >> this action is very swift. it takes me longer to get a cron-up in new york than this took longer -- to issue this punishment. >> they are not going to talk about him anymore. you can ask did they go far enough? he clearly doesn't care. he have plenty of money and get on with his life. he's got plenty of people willing to put up with his favor. he had these big blow-up with these comments, why did not come out before? he has been this way years ors
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years, the department of justice filed a lawsuit against him years ago because he was discriminating against blacks, banning from renting his properties, when there's rich guys willing to put up the money, are you willing to put it up? it was only when this private conversation was went public, there was a big blow up. >> bernie goldberg was on last night on the kelly file. he said this is a good day for the united states. it speaks how we're going not to have put up with this anymore. it was a hidden by the good day of racism. are we intolerant? >> i could not possibly have egment without making
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the tea party a victim in this. >> can you imagine -- >> if donald sterling was being honored by the tea party and he makes these comments, they would make these comments why didn't the tea party know? >> they should ban him for life. they should make him volunteer 500 hours or 1,000 hours, really volunteer some women's shelters, some organization, not write a check but literally sit there day in and day out and look at people -- >> i don't think that those people should have to be around a guy like this. >> he should see exactly what people who are subjew investigated -- on a daily basis. >> he should be banned for life for something he said in the priefs sieve his home as bigoted
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and racist. senator harry reid, he was a light skinned -- he commented on barack obama said he likes him because he is a light skinned young man and speak well. >> you said ban sterling for life for making a comment in his home. >> you want to hand bury -- >> what eric is trying to say does the punishment really fit the crime? it's not really consistent comment so mark cuban who called these comments abhorrent does not appear this word slippery slope was banned by greg gutfeld and he used it. >> what donald said was wrong it was abhorrent. there's no place for racism in the nba, any business i'm associated with and i don't want to be associated with people who have that position.
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but at the same time that's a decision i make, and it's -- i think you've got to be very, very careful when you start making blanket statements about what people say and think as opposed to to what they do. it's a very, very slippery slope. >> on facebook and twitter, a lot of people have felt this way. they weighed in. he was in the privacy of his own home. some people say that he was set up. what about the first amendment? is this a slippery slope for words in the privacy of your own home? >> you know who said this best was kareem abdul-jabbar. it seems we have more to fear from tmz than the nsa. i think what mark is talking about what happens if you would secretly tape nba players when they are talking about gays entering the sport? what would you hear then or what they were talking about the cheer leaders or what they were
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going to do after the game? what kind of language would you hear in a locker room, would be positively frightening? i'll use the word -- that's the ss, everybody is vulnerable to being secretly taped. that ges to the second wave of this story. is the girlfriend going to be arrested? because most people do feel that she's kind of gross what she did. it seems like this was planned as bigoted as he is, this was probably planned and he seemed kind of medicated. i would know. it's like will she be arrested? did she break the law in california? >> she did in california. so katie, i think she knew that he felt this way, so she deliberately tape-recorded him because she wanted some kind of revenge or whatever her motives were and in california both parties need to consent to being on that tape, she did break the law, isn't it too late? the damage has been done? >> oh, yeah, the damage has been done but that doesn't mean there
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shouldn't be consequences for the law. she did break the law in doing this. she absolutely knew who this guy was. she talk to him i'm sure multiple times, there are a hundreds hours of this tape, we haven't heard it all, only a a little bit of it. everybody around him knew he was this person and they did nothing about it. it was public knowledge. the napolitano of all people -- -- naacp stopped by and took his money, fine, but, you know, you can't ignore the fact that he was this way for a long time and then you are ready to cash in and take advantage of the situation. >> was cuban right about this? >> if i'm not mistaken, that was yesterday and i think he change his tune a little bit today. a couple of observations, bernie goldberg said it's a great day in america.
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so adam silver, is he the worst commissioner you've ever seen? >> he was nervous. >> there was no confidence there. you know who really had stature, kevin johnson, who represented the players. make him the commissioner of the nba. >> i think he has aspirations greater than that. >> every sunday show is going to have this. all the sunday circuit is going to have this, will they ask the question where was the naacp, why did they not know about this? if they did know about it, why were they going to honor this man? >> why were they willing to move forward and forgive him of his sins, awhen they don't forgive anyone else? >> when people are calling for all black leagues now, my question is have we moved past
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racism or have we not? >> black is slimg for me at least. >> should our secretary of state resign? john kerry is back peddling on israel becoming an apartheid state. that firestorm coming up next. [ female announcer hands were made for playing. ♪ legs, for crossing. ♪ et...splashing. better things than the joint pain and swelling of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. if you're trying to manage your ra,
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welcome back, everybody. secretary of state john kerry blew himself up recently with some ridiculous comments on the state of israel. >> the unitary state winds up either being an apartheid state with second class citizens or it ends up being a state that destroys the capacity of israel to be a jewish state.
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>> the secretary of state just compared israel to the decades of apartheid in south africa. >> secretary kerry has proven himself unsuitable for the position he holds and therefore before any further harm is done to our national security interests and to our critical alliance with the nation of israel, that john kerry should offer president obama his resignation. >> this is a resigning-type statement. this is an injury to an ally that will echo because it will be repeated and people will say i'm not saying this. this is the secretary of state of the united states. it is untrue. it's pernicious and is truly something that demands at the very least an immediate apology. >> so katie, you tweeted something, i believe it was last night or this morning. >> it was late last night. >> and caught fire. caught the eye of a lot of people. >> it caught some fire.
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i accused barack obama being anti semitic. that's based on his actions with israel. not with just secretary of state john kerry. but also the past five years of his administration. whether it's president obama calling for 1957 borders or even the disrespect that he showed toward benjamin netanyahu. those photos. it's about their actions. i want to see something from a columnist. kerry apartheid remarks are a water shed event. it's the first time that sitting secretary of state characterized -- jews.
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so far he has said nothing to condemn these remarks. >> ted cruz says john kerry is unsuitable and charles krauthammer says it's per in addition at the -- per in addition pernicious at the very least. >> how can somebody resign if theyler -- already seem resigned? win an election. you know, then you don't have to scream for heads to roll. you know, it seems it's always easier to lose and attack the people that beat you but now it's time to figure out a way to beat these guys rather than constantly call for their resignation. he's probably not going to resign. this extreme comparison -- it's the equivalent of breathing for leftists, comparing something to aparthe apartheid. a of week ago it happened with slavery. when people talk too much, this
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stuff happens. we should treat our alleys better. this administration sometimes gets confused and i'm saying that diplomatically. >> katie said it's kind of a culture and greg says it's a slip. >> i think it's the culture of the administration. first and foremost, they make these really harsh comments and they walk them back. they draw red lines. it is a trend you see on the left where they make insulting hurtful comments about israel. we see this going back to the clinton era. there always seems to be some kind of controversy. diplomats are supposed to choose their words very carefully. he was giving speeches on climate change and using the word diplomacy. i want -- do every single thing
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except but meddle in foreign affairs because you are not good at it? so i would rather have them doing more harm than good, do nothing. >> you want to defend? >> i'm not going to defend the statements because those were numb skull statements. frankly i've been critical on this president on israel and i have in the past. i will say this, kerry's second point was well-taken. if there is not a two state solution, if things continue the way they are, israel will no longer be a jewish state because demographics are not on their side. >> should he be saying that? >> should he be saying apartheid? absolutely not. >> should he be acknowledging -- >> of course he should. >> i'm sorry, no, let me say this. >> if you look at the demographi demographics, the demographics of the administration actually debunk this whole idea. the jewish state is not going to
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be a majority and the fact is that the palestinians are the ones who are not diverse. in the israel there's a diversity of a peace of the coalition of different rlingses as you know. palestinians are not interested in that. they are interested in cleansing the entire area. >> as somebody who has been there a lot of times, the demographics are such that the birth rate is much stronger with the palestinians. if you don't do something about this right now, if you don't create a two-state solution for the air rabb's, you are not going to have a majority jewish state. >> as long as you have a secretary of state says i chose the wrong word, what word did you mean to say? because if the outcome is what john kerry wants, he's going about it completely the wrong way. making these comments signal to israel there's no way if i were
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israeli right now, you know what i'm going to follow you. >> can i read this statement from senator barbara boxer. she says israel is the only democracy in the middle east and any linkage between israel and apartheid is nonsensical and ridiculous. >> this is incredibly embarrassing for me because i have to agree with her. i don't know -- i feel sick inside. but i mean, israel is a desirable place, not just for jews but also for arabs. the standard of living for arabs is a lot higher than in muslim countries. there's more opportunity there. you were talking about demographics and i think that's an important point to raise. >> john kerry says he wishes he could roll the tape back and use a different word. >> he should talk backwards all the time.
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and then we would -- >> just we roll it forward when we want to use it. >> there's a secret message in there if we play it >> john len couldn't -- >> -- paul is dead, paul is dead, paul is dead. >> next, political correctness gone wild again on an ivy league campus. ñ
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so two dartmouth greek groups have nixed a fund-raiser for heart patients, because one student didn't like the theme, the phiesta, first generation woman of color called it cultural appropriation. said the phi delta alpha president the possibility of offending even one mur of the dartmouth community was not worth the potential benefits of having the fund riser. you know as a native american lesbian, i'm outraged as a fem aany of the ambisexual pole vaulter, i am speechless.
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no more octoberfest, i find the hosiery an outrage for my people. the campus feeds the attention-seeing -- seeking why a place safe for speech is now the flagship. i would call them a punch of p words but that's been banned on campus too. no, you can't say it. but if you do, you'll be picked. what is worth, the scplant or how they folded quickly? >> all right. that's what they are taught. you even approach that pc line, you are going to get yourself in so much trouble and don't ever expect to get a job in the liberal media if you do cross the pc line. it's really weird that a person
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self-described person of color, of hispanic origin has a problem with phi part of phiesta. i just came back from mexico and those people are the most passionate people on the planet. proud of their heritage. >> they would be happy they were being celebrated. >> isn't college where you were supposed to come -- i was a vegetarian for one day in clenl because i wanted to protest the killing of meat and then i realized i loved big macs too much. that's where you do it. that's what college is for and then you realize this is stupid. >> everybody somebody introduces me to at the keel la, a few hours later, i introduce it 0 other people. the cardiac patients they wanted to treat they were probably old and white.
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>> i'm offended about a greek woman, you are saying in the mono log that greeks are doing this, it's the fraternity system and not greeks of greek heritage. let's say you, greg, and red eye buddies start drink a lot of ouzo and smash plates should i be offered -- offered by offended by that? >> i want someone to tell me the rules. i love to drink margaritas. i have been known to wear a so many barrow. am i racist? >> it has to be segregated in a mexican restaurant. that's the only time you could ever have a margarita. can i do it on sundays? >> we want to get katie here, but i literally -- i was at a
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stand i was going to buy a sombero on cinco de mayo. >> if embracing is a way to celebrate the culture. feast esta on monday. >> you have to wait for the left to tell you what's acceptable in the united states but by then it's too late. you've already tried to celebrate a culture and you are considered a racist. >> as a representative of the left, i cannot way for my margarita and sombero on monday. skip the margarita. go straight for the tequila. >> hed on the five, the death toll rises with more tornadoes
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a new abc news washington post poll shows obama and the democrats are in big trouble. the president's overall approval is an all time low. on the issue of the biggest issue abroad, the situation involving russia and ukraine, a mere 34% approve. what does this does all add up to by a 53 to 39% margin voters say they would rather see republicans to counter obama's
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policies. are we seeing another set up for the gop like we saw in 2010? independents are more willing to vote for candidates who are against obamacare. they need to go out and be proud of obamacare and they should be using this as a message? what about the independent numbers? >> they are definitely important and i hope they run on obamacare car. i don't think that they will. i think it's really what's the message of the administration. i mean typically presidents don't do as well in the polling in their second term, this isn't a huge surprise to geeks who follow the numbers like you and i. i question what's the message, one minute it's birth control for women, and then red line he's not going to be enforce, then he's talking about the nba. what's the message of this
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administration? it seems like a ping-pong ball. on obamacare, it touches every single household and women that they are so convinced they have a monday noply on are incredibly very savvy when it comes to health care. >> president obama is constantly complaining about congress. this poll shows that people want to vote for someone who is going to stop and slow this process further. it debunks the idea that congress is getting in the way and not doing their jobs. >> it came out today. this morning i'm listening. i hear an a question what about this poll and i can't tell you how quickly he back pedaled from that poll? the poll, it's a new low and we'll have to wait for the next poll to come out. it came out today.
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it's hysterical when it's not working for them, they completely distance themselves from the number. from 538, he was a hero when he picked the ones in the last election. it's kind of funny. >> julie, do you think that democrats and president obama are going to be able to get those numbers up? especially when we're getting ready for the candidates are getting ready to launch. >> if you look at the same poll on the manlt of issues, democrats are more trusted than republicans. this is going to be a much whiter, older, base election. single women, younger voters are not coming out for democrats. even though the polling that democrats are who people agree
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with more. it's good for the next presidential election, i can count on one thing my republican friends, they are going to get in power, screw it up again, the public is going to say enough. if you are hillary clinton, you should root for a republican takeover. >> greg can be happy they are winning and not calling for resignations. >> president obama is not interested in going out on top. in his mind he is the top. i mean he induced an entitlement that will be for us how long, that's the bureaucrat equivalent of being microsoft. you can't build a business but you can create an entitlement. the reason why the democrats are going to suffer the most is that this is not a cool vote to make. this is not a historical vote. this isn't a vote that's going to make you feel good. this is a vote that is going to
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make the pain go away. that's going to aleve the suffering of the next seven years. what we've seen is an administration that has pushed so far to the left that you can't go any further to the left which actually helps hillary because hillary can say don't worry i'm not going to be like obama. it will help hillary who will say i'm going to be the centrist. >> coming up, the naacp quickly dropped its plan to honor donald sterling after a racist recording of him surfaced. but it's willing to forgive him and still work with the clippers owner. we're going to figure out that one when "the five" returns. ♪ foghorn sounds loudly ♪ here's a good one seattle... what did geico say to the mariner? we could save you a boatload! ♪ foghorn sounds loudly ♪ what's seattle's favorite noise? the puget sound! ♪ foghorn sounds loudly ♪
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chapter. >> god teaches us to forgive and the way i look at it, after a sustained period of just proof to the african-american community that those words don't really reflect his heart, i think there's room for forgiveness. i wouldn't be a christian if i said there wasn't. we're negotiating with him about giving more money to african-american students at ucla. >> oak can i by the same token can i -- here's jason riley. >> this is another example of how the civil rights movement has become an industry, and you have groups like the naacp, al sharpton, jesse jackson who basically go around the country and shake down individuals for money. this individual gave them money
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and that's what most important to them. they claim to represent the interests of poor under privileged blacks, but this is about lining their own pockets. >> greg, try to explain this. >> money talks, bigots walk. i understand this. i'm married. the fastest way to be forgiven is to pony up. that's why on every street corner in new york city, there's a flower stand. if i know i'm in the dog house, i know what to do. there's a lot of things are done truly because you feel you must pay the price, but you know, maybe we should take the naacp at their word and say that's very nice of them to forgive. maybe forgiving is important and that's a nice thing. >> i'm a little confused because it's not like this kind doesn't have a pattern. he's discriminated against
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minorities a long time. they are not giving the money back. they should give the money back, but i would hope the naacp is willing to offer just as much forgiveness to black conservatives for being conservative as they do for this guy. >> good point. >> because they treat black conservatives way worse than they are trying to treat this guy. they are not willing to work with black conservatives. they call them uncle toms, that's ironic in this situation. i only hope they extend that to black conservatives. >> what's not giving the award back? >> i'm guessing they should never have given it to him in the first place. since the 2009 award and current, he has some issues that everyone knew. al sharpton told us on tape that he knew about his prior racial issues, yet he still decided to go on that -- into that award
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ceremony with serling. so the question -- less about whether the naacp wants to be christian and forgiving and take mr. sterling's money and move on, that's fine. that's great. but what about al sharpton? is he going to be outraged every time someone says something and when an occurrence happens like this, he's going to share a spotlight and share a dinner table with this guy who is this racist. >> i'm going to be out on a limb and say al sharpton will be wherever there's a camera. what's completely puzzling to me, tmz blows this old thing out. this guy has had some lawsuit after lawsuit. the napolitano said no problem,d -- naacp said no problem. we're going to honor this guy. taking the money is one thing. honoring him makes no sense. >> so again, i just want someone to clarify the rules for me.
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so are the rules then in fact you can be racist as long as you are rich? is that okay? it's like the last segment. i want someone to clarify. here's also what's so bizarre that we're missing, sterling hasn't apologized? what are they forgiving him for. they are giving forgiveness who did not ask for it. where is the forgiveness when he did nothing wrong and didn't even have to apologize? i just wish the naacp would clarify for me what is appropriate and who gets forgiveness and who doesn't. >> thank you, one more thing is up next.
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time now for one more thing. greg. >> andrea, we live in some very difficult times which often leads us to forgive that it's time for this. greg's prom tips. yes, the prom is coming. girls, if you haven't made your choice for the prom, consider the fun guy from the theater. you'll have a great time, and you won't lay a hand on you. if you are the guy, don't just ask the girl to the prom. if she says yes, you call her parents and you tell the parents that you are going to treat
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their daughter with the utmost respect and what time would you like her home? it's better that you get the parents to feel comfortable about you than it is to have fun and know that they are going up all night wondering what the hell you are doing. be a man. you are going to be a boy because she's hot. >> or a thes peian. >> snap chat, eb 2016. snap chat can you please get a snap chat all button i'm begging you. i hate press thing button 6,000 times. eb 2016. >> last night, i had the privilege of attending the evening of chance. that is me with t.j., he's the chairman of the special
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>> you saw kimberly here today with harris faulkner at noon. katie and i will be there and don't forget to also set an episode of the "the five." new documents lead directly to the white house in what could be a smoking gun in the benghazi terrorist attacks. this is "special report." good ending -- evening i'm shannon bream in for bret bear. there is no evidence that obama administration aides were concerned with protecting the president's image. seven weeks before the election, the new revelations go to the heart of the administration. >> an email sent three days after the benghazi

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