to participate in the chat or you can tweet me. jon: that's right. we will see you back here in one hour. jenna: "outnumbered" starts right now. ♪ >> welcome, everyone. this is "outnumbered." i am sandra smith. phase hashtag, one lucky guy back by popular demand. we got a lot of remarks to cheerleading. back to talk with you, save it. we wants to talk to you about it. hold that thought. the reaction on benghazi from furious lawmakers as explosive whiteout e-mails show top is

working feverishly to press susan rice before she delivered those talking points on five sunday talk shows. specifically an e-mail from deputy national security council been roads where he pushes to say the attack was rooted in protest over and anti-muslim video and not "a policy failure." americans who served their country lost their life in benghazi. >> a compelling piece of evidence the white house was preoccupied with spending their policy more so than they were told the american people the truth. we suspected all along they were preoccupied with pushing this video narrative and keeping away from the discussion about a policy. this just proves what we expected. sandra: they called this a classic cover-up of a cover-up.

is this the smoking gun, this e-mail? >> at this point the e-mail should have been provided a long time ago, but points back to what a lot of pundits said based on e-mails that came out prior to this. we know he was the one in that meeting to change the talking points. and they are lying, sandra. they said that is not the case. it was based on the facts they knew at the time. what they knew at the time was that it was a terrorist attack. they clearly changed it to reflect not poorly on the foreign policy. one of nine that we were at war with radical islam before the presidential election. sandra: your sentiment showing up. registered voters, how they feel about this. the most recent one showed on benghazi and obama administration, those that believed they are trying to cover up, 61% haven't changed much.

it has not changed since a year ago. what do you make of this? >> it is important to go back the words of barack obama and susan rice who said the notion of somehow i were anybody else in the administration misled the american people is patently false. now was the e-mails out completely opposite of what she has said. just before the election said i do take offense with some suggestion in any way we haven't tried to make sure the american people knew as the info was coming in what we believe so it is important to go back to the statements because the white house is wanted to move along from this. continuing the narrative of the documented e-mail narrative. his brother, we all know the story, benghazi was the thing, now maybe we know what he did not want her reporting on that. sandra: will somebody behold accountable here?

>> not yet. this is a smoking gun and it is serious. if it wasn't, they would not have hidden it for so long. it is no longer redacted, but i will say this, until more outlets get on it, you can no longer isolate one person, it stays the way it is. sandra: still no answers. >> as reporters sameer denies reports before they have full knowledge, it brings up problems later. we know the former director of the cia, when i was watching susan rice that morning and brought up the video, i was shocked because it had been a triple to the analysis and investigation. the white house saying one thing, the cia saying another, one speaking out about video very early on denying before full knowledge is could be a

policy problem. now it comes up later. as a reporter, you dig deeper. sandra: we will see if it gets picked up by more news outlets and digging deeper into this story. our economy may have some boy problems, so girls are outperforming from kindergarten through college. academic struggles that began as economic ones according to this new report by "the new york times" is claiming this as the economy continues to shift away from braun two brains, many men have struggled from the transition. by kindergarten girls are more attentive and better behaved. researchers say schools are not teaching boys traditional toughness doesn't cut it in today's economy. what do you think about this, katie? visit thfidgety boys are the tr.

>> they are just boys. boys you have to be outside, doing things and say we shouldn't be teaching them about toughness because they will not make it, the world is a tough place and you have to know how to be tough both brains and i would say out on the street. it is ridiculous. we are medicating our boys because we say they are being too fidgety. they are being boys and we should let them be boys. when you look at the study, american psychology just came out reviewing 308 studies on children and girls do xl earlier in life, pretty much anything you give them, they xl. and there is a catch-up process. >> you are very fidgety adult. >> to your point, there is a gap by eighth grade women or girls

accelerating more than boys. the most part when you get older you have a real case. no more woodshop, no more auto mechanics. >> so you went into tv. >> it gives you a place to get the nervous energy out instead of going classroom to classroom to classroom. >> did you have more female teachers or mail? >> female. >> i do believe there is somewhat of a problem here when it comes to the educational system. they feel they have to treat all boys and all girls equally. boys and girls are very different and develop at different times. the boys don't have male teachers oftentimes. >> a lot of feminism is to blame for this. listen, girls have fallen behind, so all the focus has been on girls. so now boys are being forgotten. there is books about the war on

boys. i think it is a problem. >> it starts later. the penalty happens for them when they get in the jobs force and nobody is promoting them, so they are taking up time to have children. more time than men do. i agree with what you are saying. you can't single them out. >> if you do agree, the one thing stopping the overcorrection is to take the rest of the show for the next 52 minutes. >> my theory hasn't been fully proven. >> i would say this, singer single-parent families are too prevalent. separate from school, when they get home, maybe the imbalance is happening there. sandra: i am glad you left woodshop and chose tv. >> they asked me to leave

woodshop. sandra: now we can weigh in on how brya brian is as a coworker. men are said to be too scared to speak up for female coworkers. women hold fewer than 15% of executive level positions at fortune 500 companies. sexism may be to blame but a more subtle issue needs attention. adam grant writes in the atlantic some men want to voice their support but fear no one will take them seriously because they lack a vested interest in the cause. brian, i would call somebody who doesn't speak up for a female coworker a zero. are you a hero or a zero? >> i would stick up for any coworker i thought was being dissed. if i look around and think it is mostly guys here, i want to make a change, that's a problem. but let's say you walk into a place and it is all guys. >> i like that place, by the way. >> nothing would stop me from

making a suggestion. wants to get some female anchors in here. absolutely i would do it. >> we have to be careful, we cannot for this trap we should only promote women because they are women. i know i don't want to be promoted or even stood up for by male colleague because i am a woman, i have always worked with a lot of male bosses. they have been very good to me. i get along with men and women, but male colleagues get a bad rap. just because you are not getting the that a girl all the time, does not mean they aren't sticking up for you. >> guys don't stick up for girls that often in the workplace. if they start to promote women above them, that is less opportunity for them. a lot of men had not come to

grips with more men making more money. all of these men magazine give tips how to pick up hot women, never how to handle successful ones. >> have you ever been in a situation where you were there is recipient where something could happen but nobody helped you out? >> i think it is unfortunate because women see a man sticking up for somebody else, i don't need your help, i can do this on youmy own. if you don't, you are sexist. shouldn't we tie the two together? >sandra: the formal cataract/obamacare is getting more expensive. down a pretty messy road revealing the price take to fix this for good. and the fiery reactions come in

from, we have been talking about it, something brian said about cheerleading not necessarily being a sport. lot of viewers with strong opinions here. stay close.

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sandra: welcome back to "outnumbered." same repairs will cost 121 million protect us. we're getting reports health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius won't testify before a senate panel bid we have spent $600 million already,

they want 121 million more dollars. they say this will be the end-all, be-all fix. the you believe them? >> no. $30 million more than the original contract yet we are still not getting any answers on that. we still don't have any answers from kathleen sebelius. at the same time we're seeing the states jumping out of their own failed websites but the federal government keeps rolling our tax dollars at it. that is a problem. >> she was supposed to testify about the budget and all the money that has been spent, now she is bailing out, almost pleading the fifth by refusing to testify. >> are we really surprised? she has been given the biggest gift by leaving. there is no accountability. i actually think they like there are problems for the website because there is something else to blame. the problem is they are not

bidding these things out. scratch in the backs of friends and administration. this to me is an astronomical number. $120 million to fix something that would, should have cost much less. there needs to be somebody who will take the blame for this. >> we have seen a lot of this money was given to friends of the administration to build the site, campaign donations, kind of stuff like that. >> she sees the finish line, going to work this, not going to show up because i don't have to. there is no tomorrow. a very successful play on broadway. i will say this. all of his best friends run

google. yet steve jobs reach out to him in his first term. he should be saying can you work this thing? >> there could be another bigger bill coming. putting forward, you are saying what is that? that addresses the huge mysterious component of healthcare.gov. the security of our personal information. you can't just not fix that part. it is still sitting there waiting in the senate. what is the bill going to be, the price tag to address issues? maybe they are waiting for it to come through, who knows, but that is still a huge component. >> it is day three today. day three, one lucky guy lucky

enough to be back on the sofa. he got the pot stirring a little bit with this comment on high school cheerleading. listen. >> if you're on stage and competing, that is fine, but if you are football game in front and cheerleaders, that to me isn't a sport. sandra: here are a couple of them. a deer in the headlights. listen to this one with the great handle tweeds let's see brian do cartwheels, backflips top or bottom of a pyramid. not a sport? right. and i have had a daughter in repetitive cheer and on that level it is definitely a sport. there is a man for you sticking

up for his daughter. how do you feel about this? >> as we talked about on fox and friends in the morning, you have to rename it. cheering as a sport, if i'm going against harrison's team, that is a good competition. what you can't be in front of the dallas cowboys and tell me you are competing. you are not, your entertaining. but if you go to the shows on espn or fox sports against hofstra university or delaware, game on. >> they are still doing acrobatics. >> that is entertainment, not competing. sandra: were any of us cheerleaders? >> i did gymnastics. you say it is a name issue. if they just tweaked the name or something. >> let's give a cheer to cnbc.

>> before we get e-mails and notes, before we get them, we do realize most if not all of the participants are former athletes so we want to acknowledge it is a furthering of their athletic careers. competitiveness and rules, that is what defines a sport from what i am reading. and on the sidelines you are competing. there is a team across the field. your job as a cheerleader is to get your fans riled up to support your team. you are competing with the women around the way. >> you said cheerleaders were cheering for men, but in high school and college all the cheerleaders were also at the women's games. >> we keep referencing

cheerleaders as girls, there are lots of men. >> none of them address the fact these are great athletes, great practice. do they beat another team? >> the women are competing with each other. aren't they competing in every spirit of life? >> we are not doing it using our physicality. >> the good news, nobody says that. they are athletes, it is not a sport. >> it is the engagement everybody is talking about. saying george clooney's wife to be makes her proud. not the reasons you may think. prince charming working as a

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>> welcome back to "outnumbered." colombia university male gigolo could give a duke star a run for the money. as reported in "the new york post" he says he scores a $300 per hour for what he calls dates that include sex with older women and wealthy women telling the campus newspaper i'm may prince

charming, i reminded middle age women of the popular guy they liked in high school. and extracurricular activities are in no way unique even at colombia university. all right, male gigolo having with older women for money. is this a tough job for them? >> i don't think it is. i know we have seen the woman that came out publicly as saying she was working in photography to pay for her tuition at duke was vilified for that. we're seeing him being celebrated as if he is at home and this is a great thing because he is a guy. there is a bigger question here of should students be doing this to pay for college and that is a bigger issue of why college is so expensive and should everybody be going to college. they find ways like this to pay for it. >> there is a growing trend.

not just the duke porn asterisko said she was a victim because they were making fun of her. more and more girls are stripping and becoming prostitutes to pay for shoes and expensive apartments after they graduate. what is sparking this trend? >> these girls and guys have fallen at the age range of the toughest unemployment. it is tougher to go and get jobs at a restaurant, a bar, whatever they may do. there are other ways to make money as the tuition prices are skyrocketing. monday tucker carlson stood in that chair and said it is okay thirtysomething-year-old schoolteacher gave a 15-year-old kid a lap dance in front of his class. when it was the other way arou around, he said he would shoot them. there is a double standard when

it is men and women committing these kind of acts. >> he is off base. when i call and say i will give him a piece of my mind it is an absolute double standard. this guy is a really cocky guy that has to be taken down a peg. absolute double standard. it is a 6.7% unemployment. >> not for her age. >> do you think there has been this trend to push women to be more sexual and it is okay? you look at samantha on in the city. it is empowering. they are combining the two making money. >> rather than use their creativity and other skills using the sex chip card to play

up the gender, play on that. that puts you in a position where you will lean on that. very suggestive age. >> they are more successful, they have careers, they are successful. one woman paid $15,000 to sunbathe with her in tuscany. hard for a guy to say no. >> let's talk about a guy that can pick up the tab. one woman is very proud of the future mrs. george clooney. >> let's do a clean transaction. >> segue. this person was so proud, she wrote an open letter to the bride to-be: her engagement a triumph first in the ladies, proved princeton mom wrong by doing the opposite of

what she wrote about in her book encouraging college girls to get married as soon as she could. writing pattern offers bleak words for any ambitious woman over the age of 30. yo been invested in superstardom he took th the eyef the ball. you don't get to have everything. unless that is you get to marry george clooney. so, is this your hero? >> i admire her. i really do. this is a woman who is an accomplished lawyer. i will believe it when i see him walk down the aisle. i do believe it is harder for women making more money and more successful saying marriage is not for me. i certainly put career first, so i do identify with that.

george clooney is on the record saying i was married, i was not very good at it. she was smart enough to make him work for it. he had to ask her out twice before she said yes. if a man admits he is not a good partner, he will have to work for it. and he will have to keep working for it. this woman is the brains in that relationship. >> talking about it like they are not here. do you think she gives hope or it is not even an issue? >> i always get frustrated when people put us in the same category to think dating is an individual choice. and more successful gene pool in

terms of how many men are available at a place like princeton because it is hard to be around them. even through your 30s, that is a personal choice you make. i don't think you can paint it with a broad brush on either side of the spectrum. >> and will will not all marry somebody like george clooney. >> he is hot and he is rich. >> he is a cool guy. >> he is a successful, has a lot of money. but i don't know enough about him. i have discredited everything this mom has said because she has not figured everything out. >> the key is play hard to get. if you are a woman, play hard to

get, and you will get it. play with your head. more women. >> that is so not true. >> oh, my goodness. >> some top stories we are following this hour. brand-new polls on the 2016 race for the white house. who is on top for democrats and republicans? and mother nature is not giving up. this is a tough situation in the mid-part of the country. more severe weather in the south after days of tornadoes. people are dead. and there is a trail of devastation even these pictures cannot capture. some of the world's most successful women have something in common. it started at birth. what is it? and why does it work?

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sandra: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. a little less outnumbered for brian because jon scott is here to give us what is coming ahead on jon scott. >> he said he needed more testosterone and i'm here to answer it. here's what is coming up in just a couple of minutes on "happening now." we will have a poll numbers o on the white house race along with some analysis. and live chatting on the youth vote. what can the g.o.p. do to bring disaffected young people to the republican party, americans are asking after some signs show the youth are abandoning the president. plus, the death toll continues to rise after days and days of terrible storms. where the flooding is hitting

right now and where we will finally get a break coming up. >> we will see you then. if you are the first born female in your family chances are you are more successful than your siblings. birth order really does affect academic success. firstborn girls are more likely to be ambitious and accomplished. 13% more likely to graduate school then firstborn boys. it could be parents invest more resources in their first child but still a mystery why firstborn girls do better than boys. what are you saying? looks like you turned out pretty well even though you were the last one in the line. >> i was sort of the forgotten child. i was the sixth child. i just finally got a baby picture up on that wall, by the way. my mom and dad have been married for 47 years. the firstborn is top right next

to my father. definitely the best athlete, the best piano player. i think she got a lot more time invested in those kind of things but i will say we were all treated very well. i think there is some truth to this study but freudian theories on this, there are different dynamics for everyone when it comes to birth order. >> my parents tried to treat us differently. my brother is more academically savvy than i am, he is graduating in may. we have a picture i am dominating him as the firstborn. i agree in a certain aspect. they have to be more focused on the little ones, they are kind of leading the pack. it doesn't apply to every single

family. >> i agree. there are four children in my family, i am the third. that is an old picture, my sister is going to kill me. denny is on the left, the youngest. dean is the oldest. my parents had essentially two litters. another very old photo. but i think they did a little bit more attention to me maybe because they had a little bit more money financially and i had two sets of parents. the study says it makes you the best in life. i think my siblings are all the best in life. i think they all rock. >> i am middle, i don't have a family picture. we will take it from the courtrooms we have all appeared

in. i think it is a matter of the distance between them. five years between the oldest and middle, focusing on the older kid. if there are nine months, do the math. you are playing defense. make sure he comes back in time, 10 his name tag on, best of luck. we are pretty much except my older brother is a lot better looking. girls used to talk to me and i said i love high school and then i learned they were talking to me to get to my brother. >> still are. >> now the sophomore was wondering where did they go? he graduated. >> we look forward to the day you can have a group shot with him because he will be in the middle like you are now. this is brand-new to me. >> you'r your sandwiched in the

middle. >> thank you very much, it does feel like that. >> i don't agree with the study either, andrea. i do what i love, she does what she loves, but we have two different existences. we were 10 years apart. my dad on the end, former combat aviator, we were combat military and moved all over. we had different relationships with my parents. we both got a lot of attention. >> they are some of the most mature kids. >> there was a lot of expectations for each of us but raised at different points in their lives. i was midcareer, she was post career, we both got a lot of expectations and attention put on us. >> should ladies cool it with lipsticks? a surprising new study reveals what men and women find

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>> i may be outnumbered, but now my attorney to talk about this story. ladies put down the lipstick. new study says guys prefer women without makeup. guys were given a stack of photos, modest with various amounts of makeup. women like images of models wearing a bit more makeup than the men did. women prefer more makeup but men who do a lot looking don't. andrea, do you agree with this study from whimper speculative and male perspective. >> i think men like women with less make up but no makeup. you see a woman walking down the street, men turn their r their head. women dress for other women. not necessarily for men. i say this with a lost makeup on my face of the key for every woman want the natural look which requires sometimes a lost makeup. that is the perfect look. >> a lost makeup makes you look natural? >> it is true. that is the look women want.

>> amount of time. it really does. i think makeup is fun. i think something women get to do. i embrace it fully. i think it is a lot of fun. i'm tired of bashing makeup. it is a fun thing to do. a big industry. i enjoy it. not for other women or other men. i think it is fun. >> a lot of crew were bashing makeup. stop it. you know who you are. >> i think men don't realize it. i acompletely agree with andrea, men don't realize they actually do like makeup. a lot of time when you see a girl looks really pretty they have some makeup on. we've all been told as coming of age, going through middle school, high school, why do you have that make up on? they don't like it. then why, i'm always looking at money angle here, why is this multi, multibillion-dollar industry? cosmetics industry, who is driving that. >> they're not asking men. i believe that study. i don't like a lost makeup. i don't like it to look like paint. >> what about us right now? >> i don't see a lost makeup

here. >> i do like the comment that andrea made, not about no makeup. it is about less makeup. because you know it, i can't stand a fright show. some of you all know who you are. some people need a little makeup. you don't want to go too much in here without a little something, four a.m., can you know, like you got to work it forward a little bit. i'm fine with that but i think you say how much there is, right? you like less. >> i notice because i get to see you ladies with make up and without make up i say to myself they need no makeup. >> ah. >> you're full of it, brian. >> i saw you in makeup this morning you were asking more for yourself. >> that was secret between us and behind the scenes, not to be brought forward. >> you asked for lip gloss. >> eyeliner. >> sadly we're out of time. do you feel awkward or lonely when you eat alone in a restaurant? one strawn has a solution to the solo dining dilemma but you got to see it to believe it.

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>> brian! >> well, brian, where did you go? brian? >> hash tag. where did you go? >> and it was a sense of what it was really like. you felt like you are loningly, it would be. >> this is more awkward. and the animal sitting at dinner and not make it like a weird situation. >> it is chlor you are reading alone with a stuffed animal. >> how insecure dow have to be to prefer to sit next to a stuffed animal. and what is worse just one, just >> people are tuning into the program at last second and coming to check us out. they're trying to figure out why you were holding, they think that hashtag one lucky guy and he is scared. >> clearly happier with the bear. >> no.

>> come back on this couch. one lucky bear and all. >> good night, everybody. >> he is a little hairier than you but -- >> bear thinks this is sport. >> i will slide over. do you have to step up on the couch? >> you said you were athletic. >> hear something a sport. >> a lot of people like to go to movies alone. >> you live in new york where it is common to eat by yourself. middle america it is harder to go out to eat by yourself. >> there is no excuse sitting next to a stuffed animal. >> we're not five years old. >> i'm trying. >> i see elderly eating alone, i get sad. i want to go eat with them. pulled up chair at restaurants with people. you know what? i could join you if you would like. they usually say -- >> bye, ladies. hashtag, one lucky guy. >> thanks for letting me be lucky two days in a row.

>> that is it for "outnumbered." "happening now" starts right now. now. day three was a blast. fox news alert. throw big stories to follow right now. massive flooding down south in the wake of deadly tornados, we find out who is in the danger now. and potential 2016 presidential candidates stack up against one another. including the power players you can see on the screen. and new information as the obama administration moves to raise the minimum wage and how the september just voted. but first, mother nature is packing a 1, 2 punch. massive flooding all the way from new york to floeshd. welcome to the second hour of happening now. i am john