bill: have you had a good time the first hour? quite ready to come back a second our? martha: let's do it. bill: one hour from now. martha: don't go anywhere. "outnumbered" starts now. >> this is "outnumbered." phase hashtag one lucky guy. you are outnumbered, my friend. >> just like at home. i have a wife. >> you don't have four wives. >> no, but i am still outnumbered. >> we have news breaking. awaiting a joint news conference with the president and german chancellor angela merkel. the president may talk about it,

the administration's nsa spying policy. germany and the united states not able to reach an agreement on that issue. our top story today, the white house perhaps would like to go away, benghazi. especially after yesterday. for americans who heroically served the nation lost their lives and now we're learning house republicans will announce the formation of a select committee to investigate the attack that the explosion bombshell e-mail that i was talking about this began last week showing a coordinated effort by senior white house aides to place blame for the attack on an internet video. all this leading to a testy exchange between our own bret baier and one of the aides who had a hand in the infamous talking points and had one outrageous answer. watch. >> did you also change the tax?

>> may be, i don't remember. this was like two years ago. >> the thing everybody is talking about. >> we're talking about editing talking points. your producers edit scripts multiple times. >> "dude." you know what, this was an important part of history in our country for this country. he didn't take notes, he didn't jot anything down? >> is he kidding me? as if he is sitting in a college fraternity party. people died. we are not allowed to say i don't remember what i did. it is long overdue. totally disrespectful in an interview and for those people who sit at home who lost family members and want the questions answered. >> it marks the response to this in general. we sat here yesterday and

watched the press briefing. jay carney, there was laughing at times. shouldn't we all be demanding answers right now? >> the condescending nature. he attacked ed henry from fox news and other reporters finally asking questions. kirsten powers is here, as i mentioned. this is your political party, democrats, who are now on the defensive as sandra mentioned. when you hear comments as you just heard, what does that tell you about this administration? >> it seems they are not taking it seriously. it is not that big of a deal, just talking about some talking points. of course, the talking points are the only way we are able to find anything out. anything about what was going on. it is not really about the talking points per se.

we first learned the president was in the situation room last night with basic facts that have not been given note. somewhere in the white house. what does that mean. >> the most transparent presidency, now we find out president obama wasn't even in the situation room when one of our embassies or conflicts were under attack and people were dying. >> they are very transparent when they want to show the picture all the time. >> he was in the white house, spent a night in the white house. he made a speech from the rose garden and got on air force one and flew to vegas for a fundraiser. if that isn't tone deaf. and then let's talk about what jay carney talked about when they finally released on adopted. --dash unredacted. told this is what w we're going

with. we will blame it on the video and go with this, it is just one cover-up after another from the >> the former deputy director from the cia said i looked up and was certainly surprised to see we were blaming it on a video on the internet. tell me your reaction to the republicans now getting ready to push for this. >> i think it is long overdue. just because we are not getting any answers. for at henry to have to get questions, people are saying let's exhaust every measure we can here because this administration has been very hesitant to tell the truth. let's do everything we possibly can, absolutely demand answers to these questions and that is the appropriate next step to make that happen. >> he pointed to something that is a trend, theme from the white house. it is not just coming from the

white house, congresswoman nancy pelosi, let's see what she has to say. >> what i will say is again benghazi, benghazi, benghazi. whatever was in that what i know of what i read in the press about those e-mails consistent with what was put out there before. >> why are we still talking about this? there are four dead americans and risk of national security at stake. we have an obligation to find out what happened that day. we are demanding answers. moving on from the defensive tone of this administration, you hear those words from nancy pelosi and wonder why everybody isn't demanding those. why does she wan wants to divere conversation? >> i think they are arrogant. they are annoyed by the constant question.

like benghazi is over with, time to get over it. but the point something out. >> we're watching president obama joint news conference with the german chancellor angela merkel. let's wash. -- let's watch. president obama: it is always a pleasure to welcome angela merkel to the white house. germany is one of our strongest allies. angela is one of my closest partners. with her indulgence i want to start with making to go brief comments. first as president my top priority is doing everything we can to create more jobs and opportunities for hard-working families. the economic strength as a strength in the world. we learned our business is created 273,000 new jobs last month. all told the businesses have created 9.2 million new jobs over 50 consecutive months of job growth.

the grit and determination of american people are moving us forward, but we have to keep luckless focus on job creation and creating more opportunities for working families. there's plenty more congress should be doing raising the minimum wage to creating business jobs and restructuring america. i want to work with them wherever i can, but i keep typing on wherever i must to make sure every american who works hard as a chance to ahead. second point i want to say on behalf of the american people that our thoughts are with those in afghanistan that have experienced an awful tragedy. we are the reports of a devastating landslide on top of recent floods, many people are reported missing, rescue efforts are underway just as the united states stood with people in afghanistan through a difficult decade, we stand ready to help the partners as they

respond to this disaster for even as the war comes to an end this year our commitment to afghanistan and people will endure. now, although i'm still grateful for the hospitality you and the german people extend to me, michelle and our daughters last year in berlin, it was an honor to speak, you promised me a warm welcome and delivered an unbelievable 90 degrees day in berlin. this morning our work. touched on a range of issues where the united states and germany were final partners. we agreed to continue the close security cooperations including law enforcement, cyber intelligence that keeps our businesses safe, we reaffirmed our strong commitment to completing the transatlantic trade partnership which is critical to supporting jobs and boosting exports in both the united states and europe.

we discussed energy security including the importance of europe diversifying energy sources. the united states has approved national gas exports increasing global supply and benefit partners like europe and make it even easier to get export to europe. at the lunch we will discuss our negotiations with iran and shared determination to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. we will discuss syria where we continue to oppose the moderate opposition for humanitarian relief to the syrian people. i look forward to briefing angela on my trip to syria where we can help ensure all countries in the asia-pacific adhere to international norms. most of our time was spent on the situation in ukraine. angela, i want to thank you for being such a strong partner on this issue. you'vyet spoken out forcefully against illegal actions in

ukraine, you have been a leader in the european union as well as indispensable partner in the g7. your presence here today is a reminder of our nation stand united. we are united to impose costs on russia for its actions including through coordinated sanctions. we are united on our unwavering article five commitment the security of our nato allies including german aircraft joining nato option over the pulpit. we are united in our support for ukraine including a very important imf program approved this week to help stabilize and reform the economy. and as ukrainian forces moved to restore order in eastern ukraine, it is obvious to the world that these russian backed groups are not peaceful protesters. the heavily armed militants who are receiving significant support from russia. the ukrainian government has the right and responsibility to uphold law and order within its territory, russia needs to use

its influence over these groups so they disarm and stop provoking violence. let me say that were also united in the outreach over the treatment of the observers to have been detained in eastern ukraine. pro-russian militants are still holding seven observers including four germans and ukrainian escorts. they have been paraded in front of the media forced to make statements as the barrel of a gun, disgraceful and inexcusable. russia needs to work to secure their immediate release in the international community will not be satisfied until colonel snyder and fellow captains come home. finally, as both angela and i have a pedal he said, we want to see a diplomatic resolution to the situation in ukraine. but we have both been clear if the russian leadership doesn't change course chemical phase increasing costs as well as growing isolation. diplomatic and economic.

already the ruble has fallen to near all-time lows. russian stocks have dropped sharply and russian slipped into recession. investors are fleeing an estimated $100 billion of investment will exit rus russias year. companies are finding it hard to access a tough capital they need and russia's capital rating has been tempted to just above junk status. it is making an already weak economy even weaker. moreover if russia continues on the correct course, we have a range of tools at our disposal including sanctions that will target certain sectors of the russian economy held closely with our european and g7 partners stepping up our planning. we continue these consultations today. russian leadership must know if it continues to destabilize eastern ukraine and disrupt the presidential election, we will move quickly on additional steps

including further sanctions that will impose greater costs. our preference is a diplomatic resolution to this issue and ukrainian government has already work through some of thelling issues that would ensure the rights of all ukrainians are respected, you have a representative government shown themselves willing to discuss amendments to the constitution per local level. they've gone through the commitment to provide amnesty for those who are willing to abandon the buildings that have occupied. ukrainian government in kyiv has followed through on the commitments it made in geneva. we need russians to do the same. so i want to thank you again for being here and as always for your friendship and partnership. these are challenging times, russia's actions pose a direct challenge to the goal that brought europe and united states

together for decades. all, free and at peace just as our predecessors stood united in pursuit of that vision, so will we. angela merkel. thank you very much for this gracious hospitality and this very warm welcome, and i'm very glad to be able to be back in washington. to have an opportunity to address all these different issues, priority really is on the current issue of ukraine and very large on our agenda. it showed how important the transatlantic partnership is in today's times and it is a very good thing all of the steps we have taken so far we have taken together and today we get again underlined we fully intend to go ahead as we did in the past.

what happened on ukraine, what happened on the crimean peninsula. the order has been put into question that rests on the acceptance of territorial integrity by all. and this is why it was so important for us to react. what is at stake here is people in ukraine can as act on self-determination. the 25th of may is a very crucial date in order to ensure that and we will see when the elections can take place. it will play a central role in all of this. we talked about this, together we shall do everything we can in order to bring russia to do the necessary steps so the 25th of may bringing about programs and stabilizing ukraine.

the 25th of may is not that far. if it should be possible to stabilize the situation further, further sanctions will be unavoidable. we have made a diplomatic offer for diplomatic solution so it is very much up to the russians which we will embark on, but we have certainly resolved to continue to travel down that road. secondly we address issues that have a bearing on the work of the intelligence services here. let me in on the german side. we have enjoyed our american partner on this front and anybody political responsibility is more than aware looking at the challenges of the modern world today, obviously fighting terrorism it is not only important, it is indeed indispensable. i am thoroughly convinced that our cooperation in this area is

a very helpful one yet there are differences of opinion on what sort of balance to strike between the intensity of trying to protect the citizens, and on the other hand protecting individual privacy and individual freedom ha. that will require further discussion between our countries to overcome these differences of opinion. >> we have been watching that joint news conference we were waiting with president obama and german chancellor angela merkel. here is what we are waiting for. potentially reporters in that crowd will ask the president about the development to these benghazi e-mails that have come out showing the connection between what the white house is doing particularly what the president was doing september 11, 2012, when for americans died in libya when it was being attacked.

these e-mails as you know by now from our reporting also deal with exactly who was writing what the american public would be told about that response, so on and so forth. we fully expect somebody in the crowd might ask the president about this. this would be the first time he would speak since these e-mails came to light. you heard the president talking about ukraine, the other big news between ukraine and russia is a victim shooting down helicopters. the big news writes now, the select committee. >> that came out while president obama was speaking. john boehner pleadings would call for a vote to investigate benghazi. that is what a lot of republicans have been saying all along. if those reporters have their blackberries on them, i am sure those are more astute reporters to answer questions for president obama, now that we have a select committee, no more

reductions. martha: you have not settled on a chairperson for that committee. they di do not know the size ofe committee but this is going to be specific to the house. we had the idea of a kind of questions that would come up. >> this is an issue we absolutely need democrats and republicans to come together and demanding answers. they have denied subpoenas, not about e-mails to come through that are absolutely essential and it makes absolute sense and i hope we have responsible democrats and republicans who will demand answers. >> the terry of states john kerry has been subpoenaed.

>> can i also throw a whisper a couple of people in d.c. that has been floated as possible chair of this special select committee. he will get to the answer. >> i want to hear from you, kissing, but we will go back. the sanctions in russia that is it that they what we have done. you saw just over the course of the last week additional sanctions by the europeans and the u.s. the next step is going to be a

broader base's equatorial sanctions regime, and what we have said is we want to keep open the opportunity of resolving the issue diplomatically but as angela merkel said, if in fact we see the disruptions and destabilization continuing so severely that it impedes elections on may 25, we will not have a choice but to move forward with additional more severe sanctions. the consultations have been taking place over the course of the last several weeks of what exactly those would look like and would apply to a range of sectors. the goal is not to punish russia, the goal is to give them an incentive to choose the

better course, that is to resolve these issues diplomatically. i think we are united on that front. within europe, within the eu, i i'm sure the has to be extensive consultations. some are more vulnerable than others to potential russian retaliation, and we have to take those into account. not every country will be in exactly the same place. but what has been remarkable is the degree to which all countries agreed russia has violated international law, violated integrity and sovereignty of a country in europe, and i think there is unanimity that it has become the quizzes for that. how we sanction is consequences, the experts have been working on, and we anticipate that if we have to use them, we can. our preference would be not to have to use them and i think chancellor merkel leadership on this front. she has been extraordinarily

helpful not only in facilitating european union's but also been very important in helping to shape a possible diplomatic resolution and reaching out to the russians to encourage them to take the door while it is still open. when it comes to senatorial sanctions we're looking at a whole range of issues. energy flows from russia to europe those continued even in the midst of the cold war, at the height of the cold war. so the idea that you're going to turn off the tap on all russian oil and natural gas exports is unrealistic. but there are a range of

approaches that can be taken not only in the energy sector, but the arms sector, finance sector, in terms of lines of credit for trade, all that have a significant impact on russia. i don't think it's appropriate for us to delve into the details at this stage because our hope is that we don't have to deploy them, but what i can say is that our experts at the highest level, not just b bilateral, multilateral he threw our union. the team is working through all the possibilities. we're confident we can have a package that will further impact russia's growth and economy, but again our hope is we shouldn't have to use it. we're not interested in punishing the rush of people. we do hope mr. putin and his

leadership circle have taken bad decisions and unnecessary decisions, and he needs to be dissuaded from his current course. >> it is, i think, obvious to all there are very different a attachments on what happened in ukraine. on the one hand you have the united states and europe, we've always taken our decisions together. on the other hand the russian appreciation and praise for the situation. i heard russia will live up that are in the future, but we need to see these matching afterwards, we don't have any release of hostages, among them four german hostages. this is very crucial that has to happen first. we have not yet seen any implementation of the geneva agreement.

the osce is an organization to which we look forward to greater roles so they can prepare and pave the way for elections. one word on sanctions, i agree with the american president, they are not an end in itself, but combined with the offer that we want diplomatic solutions, it is a very necessary second component to show that we are serious, we are serious about our principles and there is a broad range of possibilities that are being prepared for in the european union. we have taken position that should further decentralizatio n happen, we will take a line in the sand. we are ready and prepared to go such a step. my main aim would be first and foremost to improve stabilization and to see to it

elections can happen. we will work with it at the next few days but we are also prepared to take further steps. what we're talking about here will be secretarial measures and those branches of industry, the american president i reckon will agree to this and say what is necessary in regards to dependency on gas, which is very strong. but we can also look ahead in the medium term for the european union, which we are doing. looking at dependencies on russian gas supplies. there are six countries right now in the eu that depend 100% on gas supplies. we need to improve the flow, we need to improve the pipeline. all of the countries need to share supplies, and those are measures we are currently discussing in europe. we're talking about short-term, but also long-term measures and the trade agreement also getting

more promise and respect. >> madame chancellor, he said time is of the essence and getting shorter leading up to the 21st. one will be the time you would say a third phase of sanctions is what you would promote and is a more energy intensive initiative by the eu necessary on the government level, can you understand the fact also mr. putin is to play a role in the european union which is also his arguments have to be weighed and having made those several phone calls, do you think he will have a chance to look at this? >> as the question of what about the next few days to come, i

think the meeting of foreign ministers for the eu is going to play a very important role in this respect. one can sound out what possibilities there are in different directions. we from the german side as we've agreed with our american friends will do everything we can in order to bring to a situation supported politically that is to do what is necessary in order to bring the issue forward in ukraine. on the one hand you have monitors for the elections but also questions as regards changes to the constitution, reform toward a forme formal centralization.

, i suspect there will be a lot of ukrainian leaders will take those views into consideration. it can be done by sending masked gunmen to occupy buildings or to intimidate journalists. and one of the biggest concerns we have seen is the russian propaganda that has been blasted out nonstop suggesting somehow

that the ukrainian government is responsible for the problems in eastern ukraine. they have shown remarkable restraint throughout this process. the notion that this is some spontaneous uprising in eastern ukraine is belied by all the evidence well organized, trained, armed, militias with the capacity to shoot down helicopters generally local protesters don't possess that capacity of service are missiles or whatever weapons were used to shoot down helicopters tragically. we've seen the attempts of monitors who were approved not just by europe or the united states, but also by russia being detained and somehow russia is suggesting

kiev is is possible for that? we have heard mr. putin they kiev has been a better job of reaching out to eastern europe or eastern ukraine. you've seen attempts by kiev to propose decentralization of power. and to provide for local elections. and for them to offer amnesty to those who have already taken over these buildings. none of that has been acknowledged by mr. putin or various russian outreaches. you've also seen suggestions or implications americans responsible for meddling in ukraine. i have to say that our only interest is for ukraine to be able to make its own decisions and the last thing we want is disorder and chaos in the center

of europe. so for the german audience who perhaps is tuning into russian tv, i would just advise stay focused on the facts and what is happening on the ground. a few weeks ago mr. putin was denying the russian military was even involved in crimea. a few weeks later he acknowledged it was our guys. there is not the credibility and honesty with the situation there and the willingness to engage seriously resolving these diplomatic issues. our hope is mr. putin recognizes there is a way for him to have good relations with ukraine, good relations with europe, good relations with the united states.

a copy down through the intimidation and coercion we are seeing take place right now in eastern europe. >> thank you, mr. president. earlier this week a man die in critics have called an inhumane matter because of a botched execution. in china, iran and saudi arabia it comes to some countries have expressed their concerns as well. what are your thoughts on this and will this race more questions of the justice and reputation? and after edward snowden on u.s. civilians of your own cell phone, france should have the steps taken by the u.s. are now

consistent with the healthy alliance with personal trust being rebuilt. was wondering if you could elaborate a little on this agreement that couldn't be reached. thank you. >> what happened in oklahoma is deeply troubling. individual who was subject to the death penalty committed heinous crimes, terrible crimes. i have said in the past there are certain circumstances in which a crime is so terrible that the application of the death penalty may be appropriate. mass killings, the killings of children. but i've also said in the application of the death penalty

this country, we have seen significant problems. racial bias. on even applications of the death penalty. situations in which individuals on death row later on were discovered to have been innocent because of the evidence. it does raise significant questions about how the penalty is being applied, the situation in oklahoma just highlights some of the significant problems there. i'll be discussing with eric holder and others to get me and analysis of what steps have been taken not just in this particular interest, but more broadly in this area.

as a society we have to ask ourselves some profound questions around these issues. i will also say something about nsa. germany is one of our closest allies and our closest friends. that is true across the spectrum of issues. economic, diplomatic and angela merkel is one of my close friends on the world stage and somebody whose partnership i deeply value. and so it has pained me to see the degree to which the disclosures have created strengthen the relationshistrai. for broadly i have been

convinced for a very long time that it is important for the legal structures and policy structures to catch up with rapidly advancing technologies. as a consequence to a series of steps what we try to do is reform what we do. have taken these issues very seriously. domestically we tr tried to proe additional assurances the american people their privacy is protected, but what i have also done is taken the unprecedented steps of ordering our intelligence committees to take the privacy interest of not good interest for everything they do. something that has not been done before and most other countries do not do. the privacy interest of non-us

citizens are deeply relevant and taken into account. we have to protect them, not just u.s. persons. we have shared with the germans things we're doing. i will repeat what i said before ordinary germans are not continual surveillance, both data-gathering, i know the perceptions among the public are sometimes the united states have capacities similar to what you see on movies and television. the truth of the matter is the focus is principally and primarily on how we can make sure that terrorists, those who

want to proliferate weapons, criminals are not able to engage in the activities they are engaging in. we can only partner with friends like germany, we won't succeed if we are doing on our own. what i have pledged to angela merkel is in addition to steps we've already taken, in addition to privacy standards about dealing with non-us persons as well as u.s. persons. in addition to the work we're doing to constrain the use of bulk data. we are committed to a u.s.-german cyber dialogue to close further how we operate, german intelligence operates,

what they're doing and what the goals or the intentions are. these are competent issues and we are not perfect the aligned yet, but we share the same values and the same concerns. this is something deeply important to me and i'm absolutely committed when i leave this office, we're going to have a stronger legal footing and international framework for how we are doing business in the intelligence. i will say i don't think there is an inevitable competition between the security, safety and privacy, the one thing i have tried chancellor merkel is the united states historically concerconcerned about privacy, embedded in our constitution and the world's oldest continuous

constitutional democracy i think we know a little bit about trying to protect people's privacy. we have a technology moving rapidly and a very challenging world we have to deal with and we have to adjust our legal framework. they should not doubt how seriously we take these issues and i believe we will be able to get them resolved to the satisfaction not just our two countries but people around the world. martha: we were waiting for others to ask questions. the next question coming up is from a german reporter. we are not anticipating that would be about the situation with benghazi, which is breaking news since the president has been talking really. if somebody throws a question on this topic, we will go back to that conference with angela merkel and you can hear the translation points. we will move on with what is breaking. now the story is taking shape.

what you and i were talking about was while the president, you got the select committee being formed by john boehner. >> he was just reporting nancy pelosi was asked about the formation of the select committee and had the present been asked about benghazi, maybe he wouldn't have reference that because they are saying john boehner had not taken that to them yet. we don't know who will make that up, how many people will make that up. this is a big change. >> i know how much the president said he likes his blackberry. the big picture in all of this is what? >> the same reason, a partisan

witch hunt which often these things are in this case i think there is information may have to get to the bottom of and unfortunately it won't be bipartisan. i don't think it will be bipartisan. it will be portrayed. >> it is so ignorant to ignore the polling on these. americans want answers, they feel misled by this administration. it is going to hurt democrats if they don't disclose that information. >> coming up on "outnumbered," new insight into the wives of cheating. here why the reason they choose to go astray. politics and other news. stay with us.

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