school graduate. >> great and i appreciate it very much. >> always wanted one and i finally got it. jenna: he says it was all worth the wait. high school graduate, jon. jon: con ggratulationcongratula. we'll see you in one hour. jenna: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." today's hashtag one lucky guy, tucker carlton, officially outnumbered. >> welcome back. >> you came back. >> of course i came back. like a homing pigeon. >> we had to bring him back. carol is right. you had comments. >> don't look this way. >> we're going to have your own words against you. tucker versus tucker. >> it's happened before. i hate accountability. >> welcome carol.

>> thank you very much for having me. >> we could hear who will chair a select committee formed to investigate benghazi. this is some 20 months after the terror attack that took the lives of four americans. this as republicans ramped up their charges of a coverup at the highest reaches of the administration. now, while democrats are blasting what they call a g.o.p. blame game, and a witch hunt. >> this has been politicized like we've never seen before. richard nixon talked about a nlt majority in 1968. there's a loud delusional party. there's no conspiracy here at all. >> this was an intelligence failure but not a conspiracy and there aren't aliens in area 51 and vince foster wasn't murdered and it's time to move on and focus on real problems in libya and other problems. >> i don't think it makes sense for democrats to participate. i think it's just a tremendous red herring and a waste of taxpayer resources so i hope the speaker will reconsider but it

looks like he has bowed again to those -- from the farthest right. >> and the idea of democrats boycotting a select committee on benghazi drawing this quick response from g.o.p. congressman peter king. >> if the democrats boycott this committee, refuse to take part, the american people are going to conclude, and i think quite rightly, that they feel they have something to hide, that they cannot defend the administration and for them to refuse to take part in it, to me it would be terribly arrogant, showing that they are not taking this issue seriously and mostly it's going to show that they are afraid to confront the issues when the public is watching. >> so this dominated a lot of the weekend talk shows. administration clearly on its heels with this new information and the emails last week that were released. you're not just lucky today. you're very, very smart as well. you've been following a story for a long time. i think the viewers want to know what's the biggest difference now? what can the select committee uncover that perhaps the isis

committee couldn't uncover before? >> there's a lot they didn't uncover which is why it took a non profit to get the last email to light and out in public. they can discover where hillary clinton's involvement began and ended. not one email has hillary clinton attached to it. she was secretary of state. that's the fear. when you hear democrats complaining about the cost of something, you know they're up to something. you know they're really worried and it's in defense of hillary's presidential campaign. >> this power has subpoena power. the format will change. they're not limited to the quick five minutes questions that the committee was. what questions do you think they should be asking with this select committee that haven't been answered? >> you know what's interesting, i saw at the white house correspondents dinner, trey gawdy who can possibly lead this committee and one of the things he said to me, and he's a former prosecutor, he said that if he

gets the go ahead to do this, he wants to know specifically what took so long in the hours when the attack was happening and then how that translated into some of the talking points. you know, what did they know, when did they know it and how did that kind of drab down to the talking points that america was talking about? one of the things i would ask about is what the president was doing. we know he was not in the situation room. why is that not important? on the night that osama bin laden was taken out, we knew where the president was. we've seen those pictures come out of the situation room. we always know that when big things are happening that affect our nation's security, whether it's here or abroad, the president is being briefed. we get those. the associated press puts out little lines about where the president is. we didn't get that minute by minute about the president that night and that's important to note. that would be a question that i would ask. >> and democrats are saying they might by cot this select committee which means they're not going to have access to a lot of information. is that a pretty bad, i think, messaging move for them to do when this is now back on front

pages? >> as peter king just put it, eloquently put it, this would leave a lot of doubt in the minds of the american people when we still don't have questions about who altered talking points and would lead a lot of american people to believe, as he said, that they have something to hide here and let's not forget, andrea, those words from the former white house spokesperson last week to our own bret baier are still very close in our minds. dude, this was two years ago. why aren't the democrats taking this seriously? and this is going to be the big question, whether or not they're going to take part in this committee. >> and carol, there have been so many contradictions by this administration, even as recent as last week with jay carney at the podium, contradicting himself on the sunday shows. it doesn't seem like administration can get on the same page messagewise. do you think they're on their heels? >> the thing is for me just in general, this whole topic is accountability. i just find that we just don't have any accountability in our government. you know, on either side and everybody should pull together

and demand accountability from our government because we as a people are represented around the world by a government that just does what it wants and doesn't have any accountability to us or to anybody. and that is what i don't understand. i don't want to be represented in a way that doesn't suit who i am. and i'm just really sad that the democrats just don't want accountability. i don't care who is at fault. i just want to know, there's accountability in our government for things that go wrong. >> it's nice to have carol alt's voice today. thank you for being here. stay right there. we've got another subject here. former secretary of state condoleezza rice announcing she will not give the commencement address at rutgers university after students and teachers protested her invite. some accuse her of being a war criminal during the iraq war. chris christie and others have also faced commencement speaker backlash. former secretary of state rice touching on the question of

political dialogue on campus in her statement, quote, i have defended america's belief in free speech and the exchange off off offed -- of ideas. i entries the purpose of the commencement ceremony and i refuse to distract from it at any way. i think we all understand her ducking out of this. she doesn't want to distract from the other students graduate that go day but let's also keep in mind that this was, we're told, a small group of people on rutgers campus backed by a small number of faculty and there are a loft students that attend that university that are very upset with condoleeza stepping away from this today. >> i think it's a really graceful statement, that she doesn't want to detract from the commencement of kids there. i think it's a mistake. i wish she would go and be accounted for and her presence would spark a debate that i think is worth having. two things. they paid snooky from the jersey shore $32,000 to speak at that

school so come on now. and second, it's the involvement of the faculty. it wasn't about the kids. it was the faculty coming out against her that made the difference. >> what does this say about diversity on college campuses today? >> the update to the story that was happening just before we came out for outnumbered is that there are a number of students now signing petition and moving forward with a movement to try to get her to reconsider to come back because their concern is when you have an institution of higher learning and you don't have every voice at the table, that it really doesn't represent what they want to put out as their message as the university which is all minds count. >> this was said by a student who is also from the new jersey republican. yoef whel ming students were disappointed in condoleezza rice no longer being the commencement speaker after a small minority of the student body and intolerant faculty members protested loudly the past month. a university should be a place where free ideas are exchanged and diversity of opinions are encouraged. >> isn't that supposed to be the

university system, right? instead it's a hot bed for intolerance. this is the tyranny of the minority. i do disagree with you, tucker. she says, listen. you want to make this a big distraction? you want to get hot and bothered about the iraq war? you've had hillary clinton here who voted for the iraq war. this is a commencement speech. not a political speech. you would think that the students would want to hear from someone so accomplished, who has broke down so many barriers not to defend her position on the iraq war and do you know what? it's their loss. go ahead for her. >> last words. >> i have to agree with you and i have to agree somewhat with you when she did it eloquently. her statement was beautiful and she focused on the point, this is a commencement speech and it's not any big discussion. it's a commencement speech and it should focus on the students. >> all right. let's move on to big breaking news this hour. u.s. supreme court has ruled on

prayers that are given before open town council meetings. the ruling is that those prayers are okay even if the clergy chosen to lead the prayers are overwhelmingly christian. first let's get to shannon live from washington with news on this. good to see you. >> you, too. since 1999, the town of greece, new york has invited clergy members to come and pray at the start of meetings regardless of their religion or denomination. two folks who attended the meetings sued saying the whole thing made them uncomfortable. maybe uncomfortable but today the court said not unconstitutional. >> you can't have under our constitution a government created prayer censor. that's what the other side would have. and the supreme court got this right and upheld the right of americans to pray. >> two justices filed two desperate dissents saying that since it turned out, most of the

clergy that turned up to pray were christians. the town did not make sure that the other religions were represented as well. a.l.u. says we're disappointed. religious favoritism should be off limits because of the constitution. sectarian prayer violates the basic rule requiring the government to stay neutral on matters of faith. some suggested that towns or states that have the prayers, they should edit them in advance to make sure no one is going to be offended justin -- justice kennedy said that it would make them more looked at and no one wants the government to turn into a prayer censor. >> thank you very much for setting us up with this, with the news breaking this hour. i think it's worth noting, too, and justist kennedy said that the liberals led by justice kagen were dissenting. what is the diencio?

>> we have prayer in both the house and the senate. so you have the obama administration supporting the town but really, justice kennedy said this is why we have a first amendment. all sides can pray if they want to. it's a freedom of speech issue and what would be far worse is having the town supervisors be prayer police and decide which prayer is appropriate before a meeting. that is far scarier than anything else we saw. >> one of the things we looked up before the show is whether or not there are any pending cases and i've learned that there aren't any. however, states may look to this to inform them. what is kind of the genesis of what's happened today? >> the genesis is lawsuits. you've seen this pattern over the years. lawsuits by disgruntledle. in this specific case, there was

a high faith leader of some kind. if you read the dissent, she acts as if this is a pentecostal service and that's not at all the case. she acts as if they are and it's just silly. >> i was going to share that the words from the first amendment. really, this came down to they believe that it was better to let clergy come in and present religion rather than have somebody policing the use of religion at these town meetings. that would be way more government involvement than anything else. >> and i would imagine much more distracting. at the beginning of the meeting, everybody would have to decide, if it's not going to be the priest, who is it going to be? now what do we do? last words? >> i just find it very sad that some of the principles that this country was based upon is on our money, in god we trust, it's in the pledge of allegiance, in good -- god we have faith and a

find that a god-less society is a society that has no boundaries and can do too many bad things. i just found it sad when they were pulling -- they were having lawsuits about having prayer in the school before and i'm happy that this ruling came down. i just really am. i think we need guidance from above. >> tucker, you just heard carol talk about boundaries. we're probably going to step on yours. we'll talk about that later. for now government is trying to get a grip on your big gulp again. we'll be back. i'm thirsty, man. why the fight may not be over to take away super sized soft drinks and there's no napkin big enough to hide the food kid don't want to eat during school lunches. did you guys do that? did you spit out what you didn't want in your napkin? why there could be another food fight headed to capitol hill. stick close. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu.

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>> welcome back to "outnumbered." schools are picking a food fight with congress over school lunches. the only thing that seems to be getting fuller are the trash cans. last month some kids posted their less than tasty tweets on twitter with the hashtag, thank, michelle. schools are complaining the menu is costing them more to switch over. carol, i'll go to you first on this. i think it's good that schools are trying to get kids healthier. >> absolutely. >> but seems like some guidelines are unattainable. it's costing the schools a fortune. and the kid don't like it. >> i think they should have implemented things more slowly and worked it into the schedule a little better. i think what happened is that once you pull all those junk food from the kids, they're in shock because they're used to getting all the junk food, all

the crazy things they want and now all of a sudden, they can't and they're upset. if you would have just broken it in a little more easily, it would have done better for the school having to pay for it and for the children. and you would have found the things they liked. the biggest, saddest problem i have with healthy eating is that people think it doesn't taste good. and that's such -- that's so false. >> the kids don't think it tastes very good, either. >> i remember in school we had the buttery noodles and the pizza. it wasn't necessarily junk food but this is multi grain pasta and whole wheat -- and they're throwing it out so the schools are wasting money and the kids are starving after lunch. >> i want to tip my hat to moms out there do who the daily struggle of you're working, making ends meet, trying to get your kids to eat healthy, sending them to school. maybe you didn't have time to make lunch that day. you're depending on the school to do it. you're hoping they are making good choices. i know that struggle, right? at the same time, i picked my

battle. i would much rather have a situation at home where i'm making up at breakfast, lunch and dinner and i'm not asking the school to. >> and the speed which they implemented this was crazy. schools had to accommodate so fast that you didn't really have time to do the research and find out what kids could actually consume once they got in the lunchroom and that's why the schools are wasting millions of dollars every day trying to accommodate this program. >> and they're not digesting math and science. that's the biggest issue. i'll go to to you first on this next one. just in time for summer, some of us may have to hide our big gulps. new york's democratic mayor wants to relaunch mayor bloomberg's fight to ban giant sodas after the courts axed the idea. you're not surprised by this, are you, tucker? he's a progressive. he wants to control everything. this is just the beginning for him. >> exactly and the principle is

worth defending. you ought to be able to choose what you eat and drink and they will have mandatory flossing by the time it's over. no doubt about it. what really bugs me is the lack of science behind it. we believe in science. you don't. there's no science that suggests banning large sodas will make people thinner. this is the same government that came up with the food pyramid that says you ought to eat wheat thins every day. take on the diet that made them fat. they don't know anything about food. there's a lot we don't know. let's wait for the science. how is that? >> and they seem to be controlling everything, though, carol, down to the sodas and what kind of lettuce and -- >> the science is there. the science is there. they know when people have 16 ounces, they're going to drink the full 16 ounces because they got that extra four ounces free. they know that already. the only thing i find unfair about this is that some places can sell the 16 ounces and some can't. so this is not a law that's right across the board to everybody. >> it's a great point. you're talking about 7-leven

which is regulated by the state rather than regulated by the city. in the city of new york if you have a 7-eleven on the same block as a small restaurant that tries to sell the beverages, they're going to go to the 7-eleven. >> a lot of two for one specials i foresee. >> two words. i'm thirsty. >> that's the spirit. >> president obama on offense at the white house correspondents dinner this past weekend. who he targeted in his roast and some of us were there. camera ready. what makes a perfect body? the different views that men and women have when it comes to looks and this teacher is accused of giving a teenage boy a lap dance in her classroom and everybody went crazy. it's getting a lot of buzz. >> she's an enthusiastic teacher. is it a crime? come on. no. [bell rings] this...is jane. her long day on set starts with shoulder pain... ...and a choice take 6 tylenol in a day which is 2 aleve for...

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>> welcome back to "outnumbered." president obama on the offense at the white house correspondents dinner. while last year's event was poking fun at himself, smiling, laughter, this year a mostly unsmiling president roasting republicans in a, quote, do nothing congress over obamacare and unemployment benefit. he also turned to the media at times to more crickets than laughs. i was fortunate enough to be invited along to the event. here are some of the president's best lines and biggest bombs. >> how well does obamacare have to work before you don't want to repeal it? what if it gave mitch mc connell a pulse? what is it going to take, washington seems more disfunctional than ever. gridlock has gotten so bad in this town, you have to wonder, what did we do to piss off chris christie so bad? i've not given up the idea of working with congress. in fact, two weeks ago, senator

ted cruz and i got a bill done together. the signing ceremony was something special. i admit it. last year was rough. sheesh. at one point things got so bad, the 47% called mitt romney to apologi apologize. fox, you'll miss me when i'm gone. it will be harder to convince the american people that hillary was born in kenya. >> he did get some laughs out of that one. i want to bring you in just a second but i was tweeting during the event and one of his opening remarks involved health care. he said in 2008 his slogan was yes, i can and so far for 2014, it was control alt delete. >> the president is always very

funny. he's got great comedic timing. i canvassed the room for a moment sometimes when he said -- i don't like saying this on tv but to hear it come out of the president's mouth, who did we have to piss off to do whatever it was. it made me feel like, wow, he couldn't have come up with a different word. i heard it in the crowd reverberating. that doesn't sound like it should come out of the president's mouth. i it seemed like he was letting it go a little more than last time around. >> tucker, there was jabs at fox news but other media outlets as well. >> he's got good timing. he's funny. he is funny in person, too. but this is not an opportunity for score settling and never has been. it's an opportunity to make fun of years and there's nothing more endearing than self d

deprocating humor. >> greta who was so fun, look to the right tha representative ga name is being tossed around to possibly lead the benghazi select committee. so i asked him about that obviously. i wouldn't miss that opportunity. he said that, you know, if he gets a chance as a former prosecutor, he'll be excited to do it. he wouldn't say whether or not he was chosen to chair. he said he didn't know at that point. of course, that was a few days ago. sdmru heard the comments coming out of the dinner. it was a different tone than last year. >> he hires the best comedy writers to write the jokes. while the president is funny, people should know they do get writers in l.a. to help him with his timing. he can be very funny. the digs at fox news kind of predictable, it's getting a little old. he does that in his daily life. he said it's going to be harder to accuse hillary clinton of

being born in kenya. wasn't she the one that started that rumor about him when she was running against him in the primary? >> also i wanted to get a picture of kimberly, another one of them members of the show but everybody looked nice, you know. it was a very nice event. there was our one lucky guy from friday. >> it was fun, the post party. >> it was very nice. any last words, carol? >> i just think that obama is on his last term. he doesn't need anybody and he was using this opportunity to get his last digs in. that's what it felt like. >> he did talk about his legacy quite a bit there. >> and i did go to the correspondents dinner. we went together. he was funny the last time so i was a little disappointed that he took this moment to do that. >> i feel bad. i didn't want to spend my saturday night with president obama. i girl gets sick and tired after awhile. i don't know about you, tucker. >> a man does, too. >> you're really funny. >> ask men and women what they think the perfect body looks

like and they get different answers. lingerie shop had 1,000 people create the ideal shape. most women came up with thin figures while the men preferred curves. tucker, i'm throwing this one to you. >> it's not surprising at all. women are way more forgiving of women's appearances than women are. >> are you saying that curves are -- >> when men get together, you'll never hear us criticize the way women look. ever. men, by the way, don't generally like super thin women. >> i don't buy it. i don't buy it. >> when i sat down the first thing you said to me is i wanted to be 3 1/2 inches taller. >> carol, a special break. okay. >> i was joking. i'm such a bob beckel move to talk about the commercial breaks. >> we were talking about this particular subject. >> i think you're proving the point. thank you. >> you are 5' 11" and i'm 5' 8".

everybody is sort of seeing the grs is grener on the other side. you want that other image that we feel that you men are looking for. >> it's not true. no. it's not true. it's the women enforcing it. men talk about how great women look. >> they look at magazines and they try to -- >> but look at hollywood. >> i agree. >> they don't run women's may o magazin magazines. >> i think women are far harder on other women. men don't notice that you gained five pounds or not. they look at women in a bikini and they think woman in bikini. she has cellulite right here and her saddle bags are a little large. men's heads pop. >> they can't get into detail. that's right. >> i hate to say it but it's

true. >> do you think that body image has changed drastically the past several decades with what's perceived as beautiful? carol, you probably have gotten through a lot of this and seen the changes in what people are looking for. >> just in the last couple of decades. when i was modelling it was a sported body and now we're into very, very thin with very big breasts. it constantly changes. >> it's time to put tucker against tucker. last time when you were here, a week ago, you made a splash defending a teacher accused of giving a 15-year-old boy a full contact lap dance in school. it was for his birthday, she said. here is what tucker said on "outnumber "outnumbered." >> there are people out there who believe there should be criminal sanctions against this woman. i think that's deranged. >> why? >> there's no victim here. >> that got some viewers fired up, not to mention some ladies.

flo writes tucker is so wrong. that teacher did assault and she needs to lose her job and do jail time. candace says, seriously, tucker? children are children. you don't get to commit a moral crime with one and get a pass on another. anthony said tucker is right. whether it's fay or not, a double standard does exist. i would be hard pressed to find a 15-year-old to 17-year-old boy who doesn't dream of being seduced by a hot teach he were. whether this teacher is hot is still out. >> i said it because it's true. and notice that the breakdown is along sex lines. women are upset and a man understands. a 15-year-old boy is not a 15-year-old girl. i got a lot of mail about this. a 15-year-old boy looks at this as the gretest thing that ever happened and i think for a 15-year-old girl, it would be traumatic. that's real. i don't know what to say. i don't want what to be true but it is true. >> aside from the moral implications here, you go to school to learn, to study, to

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>> first to jon scott with what's coming up in the second hour of "happening now." jon: we're expecting news any

moment who will head up the collect committee investigating the terror attack m benghazi. john boehner will make the announcement despite some heated criticism from some democrats. plus the oscar pistorius murder trial back in session. defense tries to rebuild a case after a two-week break and it's an easy way to keep your youngster occupied for hours on end. but now a new study suggests a link between smart phones and slower language development in children. new app is raising concerns at high schools nationwide. it lets people post anonymous messages online seen by others within a mile and a half radius. some schools have banned the app because of the high volume of trash caulking.

what do you think of that, tucker? >> i'll be jon. >> you're a lucky girl. >> when a super model addresses me, any title will do. >> show her respect. >> she has respect. but to your point, margaret, i think the bullying thing is probably overstated. but i think the internet in general of that allows hostility and aggression among people. i think this sounds like kind of an awful app. i'm not sure i'm for banning it but i think i'm against it. >> as women, and you guys can agree with me or disa gr a groa disagree with me, i have my phone for security, communication, not for a portal to beat me up. >> my main concern of this is accountability for kids which is something you mentioned earlier. this allows children to be more anonymous in their ability to

reach out and hurt somebody and i think that teaches them that that's okay to do but also teaches the child who is being bullied that their voice gets smaller. >> i think it's a problem that appears to be a growing problem, especially with media and now it's called a virtual -- no accountability. >> a billboard, really. anybody -- you don't have to have followers. anybody can see what's put on there within a 1 1/2 mile radius and the fact that it's this local billboard is what's most concerning but how different is this than writing a note on the bathroom wall 15, 20 years ago? where was the accountability there? >> people saw you do it. somebody saw due that or they recognized your handwriting or you already knew that person didn't like this person. >> and this over the walls of the bathroom stalls. >> and it's so local. >> sometimes it stays there forever. i agree with you, todd. >> i'm never going to live this one down.

>> i think it's tough to shut down the app because of the first amendment issue but the internet is allows people to get nasty. there are some benefits to anonymous blogs. >> what are those? >> there's an urban baby blog.com. people ask relationship questions and may not want to voice their names. people post anything like they're experts and authorities on something. the first thing your doctor tells you now is do not read the internet. so the lack of accountability there, i think, should be taken just as seriously. people should be able to ask whatever they want. >> they just got an infusion of money on the app, $1.5 million so i don't think it's going to go anywhere soon. >> unless there's a defamation lawsuit or something like that. >> yur kid comes home crying

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>> i do have a story and here it is. women popping the question, asking the men in their lives, will you marry me? 3/4 of americans who have been surveyed by the associated press and we tv say they're fine with that. they don't judge. but in real life, only about 5% of married couple say that's what actually happened. andrea, i'm not judging. i'm for people getting married.

i'm for marriage however it happens but i wonder if some women would want the man they marry to be sort of man enough to ask the question. >> you don't want a guy who is scared to ask to you marry him to be your husband. then he's a total whoose. right? >> kinda. >> people answered the survey this way because they don't want to look like they're against women popping the question. i wouldn't want it. women want a real man to get down on one knee and walk over fire to ask this woman to be committed to them. they want real men. >> i don't know. >> do we agree? >> i was single for so long, my mother was getting ready to put up smoke signals for any man who would consider. >> so would you have gone out and find a man you liked and just ask him? >> no. i like the traditional idea of having a story to tell how did he it. if women are going to begin asking the question, they need to be creative so when the story is retold, it's just as

interesting as when a man fell off a ledge and screamed as he was -- that didn't happen. >> women force the issue. they are in charge. >> that's where i was going with this. while 5% of women proposed in the survey, that number is probably more like 95% because how many women do you talk to say i told him this is it. i gave him an ultimatum and that does happen. the woman forces the man's hand in forcing a marriage. i do think that exists but what's really interesting is how marriages evolved over time, how men and women are getting married older, so many aspects have changed. people have houses before they get married but yet, this tradition still stands and maybe i'm going to side a little bit about andrea here and that the woman at the end of the day, even if she forces the man, she wants the question to come out of the house. >> what about that decision? women do have all the power, shouldn't they? should they admit it?

>> well, jon, in my book, remember the guy's name. i'm a romantic. i want a guy to get down on bended knee. i want him to have the courage to ask me. i want him to ask -- because this whole thing came about asking the father first and going through all of that. i don't know. if you're young enough and your parents are still alive, i love tradition. i think some things are just beautiful. >> amen. how about this tradition? you walk into a high end store, really expensive store, only to deal with an arrogant and obnoxious salesman? that kind of rudeness may make you want to spend more money, believe it or not.

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you might think rude sales people drive away business. but turns out customers may be more willing to buy when dealing with snobby sales people. customers want the better thanned more. i want to get to the stories. we have a super model with us. when you walk in the store, sales people are like she can come out of the store.

>> i went on shopping in sweet pants and hair and ponytail or frizzed out to here. and many people wouldn't wait on me because they looked at my clothes. >> no way. >> it is awful. but, as i went in the store, i wouldn't approach anybody. i would wait for the first person that came to me and then i bought what i needed to buy from her. they could be snobby and believe me if people are that snobby, i don't want to shop there. >> it is not the person wants the brand more if the sales person is snobby. the shopper wants to prove to that sales person i can buy that if i want to. >> kind of like a julia robert's moment. >> it is all of the time. i have them in new york because

i go shop nothing gym clothes. they deputy to the woman dripping in dimoppeds and not me. the woman department help me. big mistake with all of the bags. and that is back drama. tucker do you shop? >> i don't think i ever shopped. >> i go to one store and rest on line. i can't do anything with shopping. it is masochistic. i can't get to any of it. >> i am gld you didn't say my wife buying all of the clothes. >> thank god for on line shopping. >> you don't have to worry about snobby sales people. >> you want to make the viewer's angry again you will have to

come back. >> how about tomorrow? >> you said more stuff today. that will do it for outnumbered. happening now give me eight seconds to john and jenna. >> we begin with a fox news alert on three stories we are watching. who will head up the select congressional committee investigating the benghazi attacks and a new poll giving republicans an edge in the midterm election. we'll have a fair and balanced look. oscar pistorias murder trials resumes after a two week break. one person said there is no way the lite lot could have deliberately killed his girlfriend. also the fox news alert. the republicans stepping up the pressure on the white house for the answers on benghazi. welcome to a new