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is sugar the new tobacco? you can weigh in and go to fox news.com/happening now. tweet us. jenna: we look like the food network today with this kind of show. jon: almost. we'll be back in one hour. jenna: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith and here today, harris, katie, andrea and today's hashtag one lucky guy, steve doocy. did you do anything interesting for mother's day weekend? >> we were down at the nation's capital where my wife went to visit one of her two children who was in this particular time zone. >> we wouldn't know him. >> i hate to say that network correspondent's mom came to visit him but she did. >> that's lovely. >> you have these children together, right? >> yes, we did.
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>> you said your wife's children. don't you mean your children? >> do they call this show outnumbered or dismembered because i think by the end, i'll be one or the other. >> the ball remains in the democrats' court on benghazi. still offering no definitive word whether they'll join the select committee investigating the attack that killed four americans. with the chair of the democrats caucus telling chris wallace he's concerned democrats won't be represented fairly and adding he sees no new questions that have not already been answered. >> we've done these investigations, some seven times. five of the investigations coming out of five of the house republican committees and so we have done this over 18 months. we've spent millions of dollars and we have seen what happens when you have a show trial. we're trying to avoid that. >> chair of the select committee had a sharp rebuke for his democratic counterpart saying he has no ax to grind and listen to
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him respond to democrats' claim that republicans are doing this so they can go after hillary clinton. >> i have no friends to reward and no foes to punish. we'll go where the facts take us. facts are neither democrat or republican. they are facts and if we overplay our hand or if we engage in a process that is not fair according to the american people, we will be punished as we should be for that. >> it really seems that the democrats are sticking with the message this is a witch hunt and this is the republicans trying to go after hillary for 2016. >> and the ultimate message which hillary clinton expoused on behalf of the entire party. this doesn't make a difference so who really cares? i don't know why any democrat wouldn't want to die fee leadership and be part of this committee and risk looking left out of it. they'll have to be the ones to answer to their constituents in the fall. i'm guessing, sandra, from a political perspective, democratic leadership probably doesn't want people to participate and if they do want
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to, i want to be privy to this information. i don't want to be left out of hearings and have to answer to my constituents. i'm not in a safe district like nancy pelosi. they're threatening to cut off the money. >> one of the sticking points here, steve, is that the democrats are saying if we get involved and if we become part of this committee, we want the ability to veto all subpoenas. >> good luck with that. when the democrats were empowering nancy pelosi ran the select committee. she had the same -- actually a wider proportion than the republicans could. hillary clinton needs to -- as many democrats as possible need to be on this thing because they need to run interference for hillary. remember, every time you hear from the white house, look. we've done these investigations and with the a.r.b., they already solved the problem.
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hillary invented the a.r.b. and they never even interviewed her. remember greg hicks who was in libya that night? greg hicks told the a.r.b., he said the reason that ambassador stevens was in benghazi was because hillary clinton herself asked him to go to benghazi to figure out whether or not they could establish a permanent mission there. so that's what he said. so that's the reason chris stevens was there. when the a.r.b. came out, said that stevens decided to go independently. that is a complete lie and it's a whitewash. >> and katie last week, i know you tweeted out how is the investigation of a terror attack a partisan thing? and it just seems like by the day is grows more and more partisan. >> when did investigating terror attacks that left americans dead become a one side issue here. the fact that deps don't want to get involved, that they're throwing temper tantrums to be frank about, it when it comes to investigating what went on. our representative was arguing on fox news sunday that he didn't want democrats to be left
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out of the process. well, they're leaving themselves out of the process and they're approaching this investigation in a quantity over quality -- they're taking that approach. yes, we've had a lot of hearings and a lot of committees in the house looking into this but guess what? the quality of information coming from the white house and the state department hasn't been there. we've seen hillary clinton go around the answers that she's supposed to be giving and if we're not going to get information from the hearings we've had, we're going to continue to push until we get that. >> it comes down to do the democrats come forth with anyone? one person? five democrats? >> i want to pick up where andrea left off. i wonder what it's like behind-the-scenes here. you have the representative you were saying going tit for tat yesterday on fox news sunday saying, no, we want this. we want this. we want this. but we want this on our terms. that can sound a little tinny or sound disingenuous unless you know who is behind-the-scenes.
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who is he speaking for? >> in the meantime, another big scandal, how real is the possibility that lois lernor would be arrested? house republicans voted last week to hold the former i.r.s. official in contempt of congress for refusing to testify on the tea party targeting scandal. the attorney general is now reviewing the case. congress does have the constitutional power to arrest lerner and hold her for trial on inherent contempt. the house speaker john boehner said an arrest likely won't happen so what's the next step in the investigation? do you think house republicans should do something that hasn't been done in over 80 years and perp walk lois lerner? >> well, i think that -- i'll put it this way f. they're not going to take the next step, you have to ask the question of what's the point? you know, john boehner said that it's eric holder's job to do his job and look into the prosecution of lois lerner. he's also in contempt of
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congress himself. he doesn't like congress. he doesn't like contempt charges against him. he's not going to give it to lois lerner. when it comes to the next steps, should we arrest her? they aren't going to do that. republicans politically would be burned at the stake for doing that. in terms of what happens next, it's going to go to eric holder, which it will and he'll do nothing, or it will get caught in the court system for a very long time which means it will go away and they'll have to decide whether she did wave her fifth amendment rights. nothing is going to happen and we're going to get stuck in this court battle for years to come when it comes to getting answers. >> i hate to disagree but lock her up. if the supreme court says that the legislature has the power, she's already come out and she's apologized. we're sorry we broke the law and we're sorry we did that stuff to the conservative groups. lock her up. lock her up for a week. let's see if she starts talking then. that might be one way.
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just know this. republicans, if you do that, about a week after the next congress is sworn in and if democrats are controlled, somebody is going to spend some time in the basement of the capital locked up. >> we want to ask you, steve is the one lucky guy here but i think lois lerner thinks she's a lucky gal and she can go out without penalties and she can get paid leave and all of these things. do you think it could backfire if republicans arrest her and then it's the white guy arresting her and cuffing her? could it backfire? >> you know what's interesting, steve brought up what it could look like, this perp walk as you put it. that could be problematic baz you've got the sergeant at arms going out and knocking on the door and serving her and then pulling her out. >> ju don't televise that part. >> there's smart phones everywhere, right? that visual might be problematic. what's the flip side? district of columbia a.g. who we know, actually is a democrat.
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we know his political leaning, right? so what chances are there that he would side against the democrats and find her in contempt again and make her go back t congress for a trial? right? so you really have kind of a sticky situation for republicans right here. >> and sandra, i've wondered what is the strategy of republicans when it comes to lois lerner? i would have given her amnesty in exchange for her testimony. it's not lois lerner. she's just the message delivery girl. we want to know, was the white house involved? >> look. i think speaker boehner has done a great job of saying this is eric holder's job at this point. he needs to make the right decision. he said that the ball is in his court. speaker boehner is eloquently walking away from the situation and letting eric holder take over. would this be unprecedented? yes. do people want to see her in an orange jump suit? yes. do we hear from the groups targeted that they want to see her in an orange jump suit? yes. >> we've settled this. lock her up!
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>> so how far do you have to go? >> she's not going to say anything. n would be to lock her up for a little while and let's see if that convinces her it's time to start yakking. >> some accountability would be nice. >> exactly. >> so from our nation's capital, sometimes disfunctional family to the american family that is falling apart. it's a new poll which shows 64% of adults believe the modern family is weaker than it was when they were kids. only 13% say families are stronger. baby boomer generation, those ages 55 to 65 was the most certain that families are more unstable now than they were decades ago. steve, why would this be? >> i blame the parents. you know, i'm a baby boomer. my children are in their 20's and for the most part, i think a lot of parents are lazy. just like everything else, it takes work to raise a family where everybody is on the same page. how often have you sat down with your family and everybody is on the phone? nobody is paying attention. come to think of it, how often
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have you sat down to dinner with your family and your family is there? i'm too busy. i have this to do, that to do. there are so many things pulling us apart. i think it is incumbent on the parents to go ahead and try to keep the family together at the table. you do that night after night after night and the kids get the message. home is where the heart is. >> you know, sandra, when you look at the economy, and we're not just talking a couple of years now. it's been many years, six to seven years as our economy now has been struggling, the family dynamic that steve is describing is difficult for a lot of people. >> there's no doubt that people are under a lot of pressure. money is flying out the door. there's a lot of tuition. the amount of money it takes to raise an infant, it's a lot of pressure on the family but one thing that steve is assuming and when he's talking about the whole family is on the cell phone, that's if the whole family is there. i was looking at the latest census data. 1970, 40% of households were parent and children living under one roof. in 2013, last year, only 19% of
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households had the two parents with their children living under the same roof. so the nuclear family is going away. that's the biggest problem. >> it's changing. it's interesting, though, when we talk about who is talking and you said you're a baby boomer. i almost wanted to check your driver's license. >> trust me. >> but this is a generation that gave us really the structure of the family unit we know today. they influenced everything from pop culture to politics. we might want to listen to them. what does it say that the baby boomers, 71 million of them, think that we're in trouble? >> it says that our seociety ha changed. even though we've seen the rise of the female bread winner, it's still better to have two parents in the household. when i dug into the study to see, what do they mean by weaker, all of your points are correct. economically they're weaker. there's not the two parent household there used to be. the dedication to time and sitting at the dinner table isn't what it used to be. i would also say if you watch tv
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culturally, the way they portray the family, the dad is always the idiot, the kid has all the answers. mom rules the roost. there's a beating up of the father. >> you've described 12 shows on the air right now. >> i do think it's contributed to the breakdown of the american family and that's responsible for a ton of other societal problems. >> quickly last word. >> cost of living is higher so it forces both parents to work which means they can't be together all the time. >> you have to make choices. >> you do but in society today, i think it's more expensive overall to live and requires a two income household to get by. >> and you have a lot of people, too, waiting later in life to hit the milestones of marriage and kids. >> let's move to kids and have the government take care of it. >> i'm going to knew to your house. >> put the phone down at dinner time. >> you have strict rules. >> those are good rules. >> more tax dollars are going to waste big time. four states which backed obamacare now have failed exchanges and have burned
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but that would require wifi. switch to comcast business internet and get two wifi networks included. comcast business built for business. >> welcome back to "outnumbered." your tax dollars apparently going down the drain again. political reporting nearly half a billion in federal money has been spent to develop four state exchanges. the cost of fixing the mess could be higher and it all so happens that all four states are big backers of the president's health care law. sandra, we've seen them dump more money and more money and more money after this thing. when you add in the federal exchange, you look at the estimates for how much the feds have allocated for this, $4.6
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billion. how much are we going to spend on websites? >> right, which brings up the question why? why do they try to continue to finish the websites? massachusetts was the pioneer, the state to embrace obamacare, probably most. they're talking about pouring $120 billion into that to fix the exchange there. so i question maryland, $118 million, oregon, $248 million. oregon bailed from the state. they're going to the health care.gov now. i don't get. in massachusetts, this push from the administration to keep pressing on the state exchange to make it work because it was sort of the pioneer, if you will. >> you know what's in the face of it. >> representative delaney was a staunch obamacare supporter has said it's just a bad idea and shows no transparency that the federal government would force
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his state, maryland, to stick to the exchange. you've got lawmakers behind-the-scenes now, these democrats that are saying, look. in our own states it's not working. i'll tell you one big question i have, some states are jumping to health care.gov. i don't know how many states it was intended to hold but now we're at 36 states that that website is handling. what happens if and when that thing crashes big time because we've overloaded it? what are we looking at now? how much more money to shore it up to take on the extra states? >> isn't it more embarrassing for massachusetts and the other states because massachusetts has done this before. it's had an exchange before. they had romney care. yet they're acting like it's the first rodeo >> they tried to say that massachusetts is the shining beacon even though it was the state with the highest number of insured in the united states. it really didn't even need romney care at the time. the problem, though, with these exchanges is not a technical issue. it's that people aren't going on and signing up for plans because they're so highly regulated.
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it would be like cars.com offering only a taurus and a lincoln town car. they maybe need a pickup truck, a minivan. you need a selection of choices. california and new york have done it somewhat well but i see just because of these mandated benefits that the administration put down, that's why the exchanges are failing. >> i saw an interesting statistic yesterday online and that's of all the people who signed up for obamacare, 75% of them had insurance last year. but because the president cancelled everything because it wasn't up to the standards, so many people got -- had to wind up signing on to the exchanges and i also wonder of the people who have the new insurance, how many of them are paying a lot more than they did last year? i heard one guy who runs one of the big insurance companies, he said about 75%. that's -- >> that's a lot of money. >> was that worth blowing up the whole system for 25% of the
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people and 3/4 of us are paying more than we did last year. >> yep. keep it coming because they're going to keep asking you for money. >> maybe we should open our own websites. just our own individual -- >> we should just write everyone a check. >> how do you like this? pinterest. >> pinterest for health care. if yours is working, click here. >> i think everyone should pay out of pocket up to $10,000 and then insurance would kick in. >> i'm moving in with the doocy family. >> researchers say that there's scientific proof that boys who have secure relationships with their moms have an easier time in adult relationships becoming strong and independent leaders. president obama, former president clinton and lebron james all self described mama's boys. study show those men grow up more patient, more adaptable and less hostile. there's one fool proof thing
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that every woman needs to know. >> what's that? >> if he sdpt have a good relationship with his mother, run for the hills, girls. is that fool proof? >> i think that's a respect thing. i think these men who have good -- or boys have good relationships growing up with their mother. they learn to respect her and they really respect women in general. we see that time and time again. what i thought was really interesting that the study showed was what happens when that boy, their little boy goes off to get married and all of a sudden, the wife or the proposed wife becomes a big problem and it can almost be a self fulfilling prophecy. the mom does not like the woman the guy is going to marry, the man starts to not like his own wife because the mother is jealous throughout the entire wife. steve, did you experience that? >> when you said that about respect, that rang true for me because my mom was a stay-at-home mom and you never wanted to let your ma down. you just didn't. but it was a certain respect
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because she was pretty much the boss and you never wanted to let her down. there's some things the mom can do that the dad can't. i remember my mom teaching me how to dance and my dad said, nope. your mom will teach you. >> there's such a thing as a good relationship and then maybe a little bit too close of a relationship where they need to cut the cord and the mother-in-law needs to stay away. so is it tough to find that balance? >> you know what's weird? two different things are happening. the guys that the study describes and he's got all the healthy attributes of a good, respectful relationship with his mother and then the one just needs to fire the other woman in the relationship. right? he's seeking approval. i dated this guy in college before i met my husband. he wouldn't make a lane change on a freeway without checking in with mom. thank goodness there wasn't texting back then. i probably never would have gotten his attention and we would have crashed waiting for her to et will him know it's okay to go left here. that's the time that you kind of want to try to say, look.
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it's me or her which is always a dangerous idea. he's probably not going to choose you. >> isn't my advice fool proof? >> take her advice. >> if he indicates the relationship is not good, get out of there. >> relationships by andrea coming up next. >> i don't know if i buy this study. it says it makes you less hostile and aggressive and that does not apply to bill clinton. he's a mama's boy. >> war on mamas. >> actually, though -- >> new video from the islamist terror group that kidnapped hundreds of nigerian school girls and their leader is making as we take a closer look at the campaign hashtag save our girls. tiger woods' ex-wife taking a verbal swing at the golf star in her college graduation speech. was it par for the course or does she get a double bogey for
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>> welcome back to "in and out ybed." terrorist group that kidnapped hundreds of school girls that shows some victims. the girls are reciting the koran. this as the leader of the terror group says he's willing to exchange the groups for imprisoned members of his islamist group. national security correspondent jennifer griffin is live from the pentagon. >> hi. we can't vouch for the video's authenticity but it was provided by the terror group through a known intermediary. it shows about 100 of more than 250 girls kidnapped a month ago. the 17 minute video shows the girls in islamist head dress as
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you mentioned, most of the kidnapped school girls were christian. they've been forced to convert to islam by their captors. they want to trade them for imprisoned fighters. it's not clear where the other 150 girls or so are right now. we've heard horrifying tales from those that escaped how their teacher as band -- teachers abandoned them when they came to the school. >> we come out and we sit outside. and all the stuff -- >> the teachers are still with them and the teachers, for a long time, they run away. >> that was the father of one of the girls who escaped. the question now for the government of the president there is whether the nigerian
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government is willing to undertake a prisoner exchange with them. >> thank you. the kidnappings prompting a global response, particularly on social media. twitter users organized around the hashtag bring back our girls. even first lady michelle obama showing her support, tweeting out this picture. and this isn't the first time foreign policy and social media have worked together. this tweet coming from the state department. a few weeks back regarding the crisis in ukraine. and all of this has some credit beings now weighing in saying foreign policy and social media are two very different things. >> you can't base your policy on what's trending on twitter. it has to be more than hashtags and selfies. >> katie, how do you feel about the level of involvement social media and foreign policy are used by the administration? >> you know, i appreciate it when it comes from the people so going back a couple of years to
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the iranians when they were tweeting about what they wanted, that can be a powerful thing and twitter and social media are sometime the only opportunity we have to get information from a country. when it comes to the obama administration, i don't think the bigger issue is what's on twitter and i don't think it's such a bad thing. bigger issue is the obama administration's failure to recognize the spread of radical islam, the president of the united states lying to the american people by saying that al qaeda is on the run when they're clearly not. they're spreading throughout africa. and the administration's continuing pandering and this false reality of them saying that we don't have a problem with radical islam. that's what this group is doing. if you even look at the press releases and the statements from the white house, they refuse to acknowledge what this group is about and why their ideology is showing through. that's the bigger issue here. >> is it wrong to use hashtags and selfies to spread the
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message globally? >> that's what they're doing. it's a cheap way to optically look like they're doing something but they're not doing anything. keep in mind, you know, barack obama rode to office promising we're not going to get mucked up anywhere around the globe. we're not going to get involved. remember how the whole world mobilized to try to find that airplane? we haven't found it. how many countries were involved in that? this is not a war. this is a rescue mission. we should be doing something. i don't know what it is but more than a dozen guys they send out with no guns. >> this morning when they were sending more american officials to the area to figure out whether or not they can use the intel they have there on the ground, steve, so america is getting more involved but what you're saying, too, is that it doesn't appear from our vantage point they're ptaking the lead. they probably have the most to do that. >> i think it's embarrassing. it's like the student council is running our foreign policy. i'm going to fight vladmir
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putin. with what? it's silly. it's childish. it's ineffective. bad people love weak responses. >> it sounds like the use of social media and foreign policy is outnumbered in this group. >> hashtag bingo. >> it's not uncommon for exes to take a swipe at their former spouses but a commencement speech appears to have been the venue that tiger woods' ex chose. the mother of their two children speaking with her college graduation class. listen. >> i have also realized that education has been the only consistent part of my life for the last nine years. it has offered me comfort. education is the one thing that no one can take away from you. when i entered my student adv e adviser office in 2005, i was 25 years old, i had just recently
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moved to america, i was married without children. today, nine years later, i'm a proud american and i have two beautiful children. [applause] >> but i'm no longer married. >> andrea, d dissing your ex in public. >> she should have gotten a standing ovation. she did this very classy. they didn't take low blows for tiger woods. during the whole debacle, she stayed quiet. most women in america could have gone way harder on tiger woods. i would have. >> my graduation speech would have been, i would have roasted the guy. >> you might have been why she was chosen to speak.
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>> she was at the top of her graduation loss. >> she was the outstanding graduating senior with a 3.69 g.p.a. so they did well. she's a very pretty woman, intelligent woman as well. i think it was humorous. she brought them humor into the speech as most people do in dmensment speeches. she said right after her divorce, she took communications and that communication and the media class. she said she should have taken more notes. i thought she was witty. >> good for her. this is part of her story and i thought it was great. she could have done a lot more. >> here's a man. >> she could have mentioned hookers and porn stars. but she didn't. >> we've never mentioned that in that venue. >> you never know. >> she could have done worse but she spoke obliquely about him, had i been tiger woods, of course, i have a terrible golf game but i would be dead.
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>> tmz had on the website, it looked like a double date they were on. do we have that photo? >> i was surprised there wasn't any jokes about the seven iron and the s.u.v. she didn't even manage to sneak that in there. >> she was hugh mitt -- humiliated on a world stage. she's not bitter. she's not resentful. >> she looks beautiful, she looks great, she's getting an education. >> she has a lot of money. >> hanging out with your ex, clearly they have a relationship. they're raising children. tiger is not paying any attention. he's on the phone it seems. >> interesting. >> thank you, gang. marco rubio talking about a run for the white house in 2016. and he was asked, are you ready to run for president? look. his answer and others who are now weighing in. and severe storms ripping through part of this country, not just the midwest but a
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>> more "outnumbered" in a moment but first jon scott. >> high winds, downpours and possible tornados across big parts are the nation over the weekend. midwest, including illinois, indiana and iowa and a foot of snow to parts of colorado, wyoming and nebraska. heavy, wet snow falling this morning in denver. oscar pistorius murder trial back underway in south africa. today on the stand, a psychiatrist testifying for the defense who says the athlete
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suffers from high anxiety. we'll see you in 17 minutes. >> we look forward, jon. thank you. >> all right. talk is ramping up over who will run for the white house in 2016. listen to republican senator marco rubio, florida on abc this week yesterday answering a key question. >> do you think you're ready to be president? >> i do. but i think that's true for multiple other people that would want to run. i'll be 43 this month but the other thing that perhaps you don't realize, i've served in public office for the better part of 14 years. >> we also heard on sunday from former republican presidential candidate rick santorum who said he's considering another run. while democratic senator elizabeth warner of massachusetts said she has no such plans. isn't it refreshing to hear a candidate say, yeah, i'm ready instead of i'm not going to run? >> they're all going to run.
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everybody in her phone book is going to run for president of the united states. she knows all the political types. what i think is going to be curious, though, as things start to get going is, you know, how the press seems to have anointed hillary clinton as the next president of the united states. go back to 2008. between hillary and barack obama, they love obama a lot more than hillary. they turned on hillary. it's just curious how turnabout is fair play. they love her. >> andrea, with all due respect to rick santorum, shouldn't they stop recycling candidates? >> 100%. let other people go in the race and run this time around. when i was watching marco rubio, he was thinking, what am i going to say? no, i'm not ready? of course he's going to say he's ready. but there's also that apprehension because the minute you put yourself out there, you become the frontrunner examine
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then the media training their sights on whoever the republican frontrunner is like they did with christie a couple of weeks ago. again, they're completely in the camp for hillary and she hasn't even declared yet. >> what's interesting, too, if you watch the rest of that interview, he goes on to say i'm not going to hit the button. i'm not going to run for senate in case running for president doesn't work out. he said if i run, i'm in it to win it. >> why wouldn't you be? we had super pacs against clint. >> i don't think that marco rubio came out just saying he's running for president. on one of the talk shows, he came out bashing hillary clinton's performance as secretary of state talking about russia, benghazi, and he said that she's going to pin her hopes on her record as secretary of state. he made sure to detail every which way she failed at that job. so i really think he came out full blast this weekend. >> which is gret for fundraising
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as well. >> so we're only about two years away from the next presidential election so we'll just have to see. it's only a matter of time before california is hit with a catastrophic earthquake and new research suggests the state is not ready for the big one. with many buildings at risk of collapsing. plus husbands, listen up. grab that broom and start taking out the trash. doing chores could predict how happy your marriage will be. we'll explain or steve will explain. he's actually going to clean up the set for us.
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marriage. a new study finds that women, newlyweds, were happier in their marriage when their husbands agreed to share some portion of the chores equally. or partially or a little even. >> stop making excuses. >> so anyway, let's talk to you. you have been married for 11 years. >> i have. >> does it ever bother you when you are in the kitchen doing something or in the garage doing something and your husband is in watching television when he could be helping you with the chores? >> only when he says, honey, can you grab me a beer? i married a great guy. he really knows his role in terms of what -- >> his role? >> it's what he's good at. >> which is? >> he said, look. these are things i am good at. anything on the outside of the house is his domain. landscaping, all of that. stuff on the inside, laundry, and i like pink and gray but i
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do not want him doing my laundry. everything comes out those two colors. >> if women are doing too many chores, they feel like their marriage satisfaction is going down. do you feel that your husband is, you know, towing the line here? >> i have a motto. never do a bad job good. when you take out the garbage, leave a little trail of liquids leaking out of the bag. i will say you have to master the art of like kind of stomping around when you notice that he hasn't taken out the garbage or done the dishes. you cling around. >> you're describing a man who doesn't want to be doing what you're making him do. >> they say not to nag so i don't want to ask him to do the dishes. >> don't make him do that stuff. don't make him do that stuff. there are times when you're going to need the man and i'm talking about if there's a bug or a snake or something like that. >> amen. >> he actually does a lot so i'm not complaining. >> there you go.
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>> i just have sympathy for the men. >> thank you. >> what? you're outnumbered. >> just two weeks ago we did a study if men pick up the dust pan and start to help out, women don't want to do the horizontal hula with a man. they're not getting sex if they help with the housework. now men are like, do i dust or not dust? >> people who did the study were dating each other. >> we have to go. >> it's absolutely fine with me, especially when it's really cold outside. >> the horizontal hula? >> daytime tv. >> your life must be more interesting than mine. >> we don't have time to talk about it. maybe after the show. >> i can hardly wait for this commercial break to find out more. meanwhile, when it comes to this, we men can't compete. cannot. i'm talking about packing for vacation. the big lead women have when it comes to filling the suitcase or
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a new study finds that ladies are way worse when it comes to a suitcase and packing and fighting for the space is a reason for pretrip squabbles. i am sure with all of those shoes. >> are the supremes coming with us? how many bags do you have? i make a converted effort to pack light. >> the men have huge shoes and your clothes are big are than ours and you guys take up more space. >> what are you smoking? when i go on vacation, the shoes i take are the shoes i am wearing i wear the suit for a week. >> i have done the heavy packing thing and i try to pack as little as possible. it depends on the occasion.
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>> i put extra stuff in the sought case. there is a date night. >> skate clothes going to hawaii. >> good to have you. >> it was very fun. that does it for outnumbered. happening now starts right now. we begin with a fox nows alert. we are waiting for a news conference in the centers for disease control, a second case of the deadly mers virus. is it related to the first case or a brand new outbreak. bombshells of a now book by tim geithener. and what went on in the height of the final crisis. and the pistorias trial. the placing the athlete under the psychiatric observation. what does that mean
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