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invariably, they go for the gusto. a common trait they look forward, blink fast, if you blink like this, you are out to lunch or you are sleeping, or you will sleep on the job. they don't want you. i'm kimberly guilfoyle, along with bob beckle, eric bolling, dana perino, and brian kilmeade, it's 5:00 and this is "the five." is the obama administration afraid to confront radical islam by name? well, boko haram has declared war on christians and western education and more. today, they released a video of what appears to be some of the missing nigerian school girls. michelle obama took the president's place this weekend to deliver the weekly address, she expressed outrage over the kidnappings, but failed to
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mission islam or boko haram. >> this terrorist act was committed by a group that don't want these girls to have a education. >> the first lady has taken part in a new hash tag campaign bring back our girls. it is believed we'll need a tougher foreign policy than that. >> it has to be more than hash tags and self-ies. are these bear bearians in nigeria checking their twitter? >> power is the ability to achieve intended effects and this is not intended to have any effect on the real world. >> all right. this is a tough one. i'm going to put bolling on the hot seat on that.
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you are going to criticize the first lady. she's trying to send a message. >> i think it's great. i think #bring back our girls, i think you need to keep it in the media because it's a trendy cool hash tag where everyone is talking about it, they are doing what they need to be doing. we all need to continue to talk about this, continue to put pressure. the nigerian government is asking for our help. we're giving our help in the form of some secret service. i believe some cia, some covert operations, doing exactly what we're supposed to do. what we didn't do, let me clarify, hillary clinton had a chance to put this group on the foreign terrorist organization, opening up a whole slew of different types of assets that we now can do if they chose to do since john kerry put them on the foreign terrorist organization, so we have a two-year kind of window that we lost, but they are doing what they have to do. they are doing what they can do. i disagree with george will and brit hume. i think you need to stay in the media and the way to do is stay
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relevant on social media and continue the pressure. >> it's part of the overall approach. you have to have the idea, a game plan. let's hit it on social media. let's create public awareness. do you like how they are handling it from a communication perspective? >> i always think you can do thgeds differently. there could be a specific reason that the first lady was -- did not mention boko haram. they might have said that it would not be a good idea for her to do so because maybe they have some sort of intel about the psychological state of these terrorists maybe they want her to do that. i give her a pass on that one, of course. and i don't think that anyone in the world actually thinks a twitter hash tag is going to solve the problem. i think the white house made a communications mistake in this. i think they should have paired -- the picture she took with bring back our girls with some sort of policy statements declaring why we have a national interest here and why we should do something. i think they missed an tun, so
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again the cart was before the horse and everybody started making fun of the hash tag. not everybody but some. it's the nigerians that are -- as a government, that is the incompetent here. not the united states. the nigerians are incapable of helping themselves and they also we find out today refused help from the brits three days after the giferl were taken. i do think we have a national interest. i think we have one in the immediate term to try to bring them back. however, we have to decide if we are going to help these governments get up to speed. i think we get whipsawed by these events and the white house would be better served by giving a full on speech to explain where we were on the war on terror. it's not one we asked for but one we can win. >> having some consistency in the way they act and the places they choose to get involved with from a u.s. standpoint and u.s. interests, to have some kind of
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consistency so there isn't this disparity where it's a confusing foreign policy message. how do you see it? >> i see very simple. islamic extremists. that's what they are about. they are islamic extremists. you are screwing with my religion. you are making us look bad. they have to be standing up saying this has to stop. they are at war with us. they are taking over the continent of africa. it is so beyond criticizing a president or a hash tag. it is big picture stuff. the president has surprised a lot of people with the drone program. i love what he's doing. what he did in yemen two and a half weeks ago, go ahead and say it, we're going to help these governments. they are the bad guys. we're the good guys, to find those kids and bring them out
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and help chad and kenya, and stop playing defense and get on the offense. mike sheen of west point an expert said the only way to stop it is to continue to pushback on the jihad everywhere we go. >> bob, you've been saying that as well from the beginning. >> i've been saying it a long time. eric is exactly right. if a hash tag, if nothing else, it forces the media to see how many people are interested in this. i don't think there are a lot of muslim countries that want the help because i think in their own way, the heads of these governments want to see these terrorists work. the saudis have funded these groups. number one, when you say this is not about -- why not mus slims
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stand up and say this is a war. this is a war on their religion and yet we have to carry the ball for them because they are too cowardly to do it themselves. i'm waiting to hear back from the saudi and egyptian embassy. i'm waiting for the first cleric to stand up and say this is not what mohammed meant. >> you mentioned islamic extremist. i went to cair website. these girls have been kidnapped for a month. there have been 30 opportunities to put it on their front page. they have two opportunities where they kind of say, they say this is a bad thing, this is shining a bad light on islam. however, today, and one of their biggest concern in the world is not those 200 or 300 young women who were kidnapped. their biggest concern especially today and the last few days has been the 9/11 museum film where
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the flim actually says islamic extremist. they are probably more mat mad at you, brian for saying that than me for saying boko haram. >> they should be calling it out on a daily basis. we are. why aren't they? >> london daily mail did that story and we decided some of their curriculum, they are pulling back on teaching the holocaust and the crusades because it's it offends muslims in the school system. >> we have become so timid. >> we're afraid -- we have to take the gloves off and go at it. >> let's put it on the front burner islamic terrorists. >> this has become the cowering
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in the dark. islamic terrorists get to run rampant over christianity. >> there was a pew poll in egypt, something that 80 to 90% believe that death is was the proper penalty for leaving religion. >> the point is you cannot put altogether with the entire islam or all muslims. >> liberals like yourself do not stand up for liberalism. liberalism means one, mostly. equality of women. free speech. no death threats. >> he's actually standing up. i think he's got it right this time. cautiously optimistic to say that. >> we're here, we're splitting
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hairs by splitting by saying women are getting paid 12 cents less than men. look around, and by the way if we leave afghanistan prematurely, what do you think going to happen to all those women in that country, at a school, put the burke has on. >> i was thinking about cair and remember the other big problem they had a few weeks ago, was that film the honor diaries and remember they came on with megyn kelly show and they had this big blow-up because they were outraged, they didn't wabt any university -- two universities pulled the film back so we wouldn't offend muslims by showing it. apparently today, boko haram has said these women have converted to islam. the honor diaries is actually talking about that very thing. it tells me that cair is probably getting more funding
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for its operation from people who are concerned about this film down at the 9/11 site and also for honor diaries, but not really -- i think if we are expecting cair to come out and say something -- >> we'll be waiting forever. >> it's never going to happen. >> it could be really the pr wing of islamic extremist. sorry cair. i honestly believe that. if you look back over the last maybe 20 years or so, just about every single terror attack, most terror attacks can be linked back to some sort of islamic extremist, some sort of islamic fundamentalist funding if not ideology as well. why not, if you want to look forward, focus on that group. sorry we're not indicting the whole group. not every muslim is an extremist, however if you are going to look at a group, hey, look at that group, i can't remember any christians blowing up airplanes or buildings in the last 20 years many.
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>> if they were i would be the first one to be outraged. >> i have a responsibility to defend afghanistan against the taliban add inif i night item. at some point, the afghanistan has to say this branch of islam is not with us. if they don't do that, to hell with them, anybody who practices sharia law ought to be a rogue state and should be treated as such. >> we have wasted our time. we've got to leave at the right time. >> i'm all for that. we cannot police the muslim world because they are afraid to police themselves. >> they need to stand up. >> or they agree with this stuff. that's the thing that worries me. i'm beginning to believe there are a lot more muslims -- i'm not sure 85% moderate muslims, if they believe in this crap and
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they believe in women being treated this way, then they are no different than islamic terrorists and they ought to be ostracized and become a rogue state. >> eric, the fast seven is coming up day. hague the headlines -- making the headlines today charles barkley, barbara walters and richard dreyfuss. find out next. ♪ can you hear it?
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welcome back to the fastest seven minutes in news. three extraordinary stories, seven minutes. first one, charles barkley took some heat for making some off the cuff comments about hefty ladies in texas, sir charles fighting back against his critic. >> some of you people don't like my sense of humor is what i'm going to say. if you want to apologize, that's not going to happen. you all can write letters to
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your mamas, your daddy's, your uncles, i'm going to have fun on television. you know that i'm joking around. but if you all rate waiting on for me to apologize, hell is going to freeze over. when he said this at first, i personally didn't take offense. listen, i don't think it's nice to make fun of people, they are born the way they are. that's the thing. nevertheless, he's a very big personality, he's always spoken his mouth. that's why he got the show. if you actually watch the show, it's very entertaining. you see the personality. they are egging him on. i really don't feel that he meant disrespect. he's kind of a funny guy on there. >> i am so grateful that i think he has broken the cycle of having to apologize for everything that you say. the other thing that i really like about him, one, he's kind of fearless and also he's made enough money that he doesn't have to really worry about where his next paycheck is going to
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come from, but that show, that's what guys do in the locker room. you are supposed to be watching like guys hanging out. they don't all sit there and say oh, women are so lovely. that doesn't happen in the real world. so you are getting a glimpse of what it's like -- >> it's very refreshing that he didn't apologize. bob you are holding your tongue. >> i can completely relate to what charles said. he's exactly right. i get it all the time. he says he's knotted going to apologize. i don't apologize. just a few rare occasions. i've been to san antonio in times and there is a poundage issue that is significant. >> bob, did you apologize? >> i had to apologize. i feel like barkley, if you don't like to hear what i have to say, say turn the show off for the rest of these people, all i say is screw you. >> i will say bob, when bob and
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charles barkley apologize, then i'll apologize but here's the things, this guy has had a weight problem his entire life. it kept him from the olympic team. there are some people really sensitive about it. you don't have to be personally insulting so a whole city in order to be entertaining. >> barbara walters, this is the first lady of journalism final week as a regular on air personality. here's barbara offering some of her wisdom so the snl weekend update crew. >> it is fine to make people smile, but the real money is in making them cry. nothing brings in the viewers like seeing a celebrity reduced to tears. you may think i'm really feeling bad for them, but all i'm
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thinking is ka-ching. >> guys first on this one. >> i think -- i give her a lot of credit for going around doing this. she's made a great contribution to television and i think everybody who every thinks about cosmetic surgery and find out who her doctors are because they are the best in the world. >> you'll be apologizing for that. >> what i think. it's unbelievable. she just got two interviews over the last month. if you think she's going away, no way. as soon as something else big happens she's going to be the puerto rico or cuba or talking to vladimir putin. >> what a career. >> amazing career. a life that's been remarkably led so far and i think we'll see more of her and i hope she feels really happy and satisfied.
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as she leaves "the view," i hope when she puts the period at the end of that chapter she did a good job. >> they went through four marriages. >> again, i've only been married twice. why do i -- >> it's a tough road to be a journalist. >> she has had a life where she's had to make a lot of personal sacrifices to bring us the news, stories, great interviews that have really helped shape our cultural and what we know a lot about the celebrities. they have been very open and candid because they felt comfortable and including the world leaders that she's interviewed. i read her book and she's a role model for not just women in journalism but to men as well. >> she's the perfect replacement because they have got in a lot of trouble at meet the press, she would be so much better than -- i think she would be great. she would do the tim russert way
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to do it and she would be tough. >> we need to move on. you don't hear hollywood celebrities saying good things about america very often, not the case with richard dreyfuss, talking to huckabee over the weekend about american exceptionalism. >> we are the most revolutionary nation that has ever been and ever will be, we don't know enough about our constitution and our history to know why we should be proud of it. whenever you hear someone say american exceptionalism, you should turn to person and say if you don't prove that statement, i'm going to hit you right in the mouth, because they don't prove it and they can. >> that's not richard dreyfuss. either that or he got bitten a lot more by that shark than he thought. i think what he said is great. it ain't the same richard dreyfuss. >> you said fantastic but not so long ago this guy was a bleeding
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heart liberal. >> they feel about the constitution exceptionalism. >> back to the constitution and talking about flipping it around. i think he's really appreciative of where he's at in his life. i hope to be at that place at that age at that time. he has a lot to be happy about, especially what about bob, wasn't that a great movie? >> on his comment, i give huckabee some credit every week, he can find an issue where you actually can get americans to agree on a lot of things. the constitution is one of them. it's the most durable governing document, we should know about it, appreciate it and we should help other countries to adopt a constitution like ours it's definitely made for the best country. >> stop the stigma --
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>> want to jump over here. i was very impressed with him. i think his true life experience and age, he's really kind of come into his own and when you have a celebrity speak out like this, i think everybody benefits from it. this is a person people admire. >> he's still a liberal. not all liberals think -- we're very strong about the constitution and american exceptionalism. you all pick out some idiot somewhere -- >> what? you know why you don't like him. he was a vietnam war objector. he's a new to the world of i love america. >> why? >> what's wrong with the white house? give credit. >> i don't give him credit. >> you should. >> because the american government lied about it.
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shade the truth on the sunday shows. i remember during one roosevelt room prep session, i objected when dan pfeiffer wanted me to say social surt didn't contribute to the defs sit, but it did contribute. pfeiffer said the line was a dog whistle to the left, code to the democratic base. >> when we think about benghazi, it's inconceivable that the white house was not involved in that, and now we know from the email that got out a week or two ago that indeed the white house was involved. so this is the way it works. >> and despite all the new information that we have, there's still one liberal columnist who actually still believes it. take a look at he will nor cliff over the week. >> ambassador was not murdered.
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he died in the smoke inhalation in the safe room. >> it was an opportunistic terrorist attack. >> there were -- there were demonstrations across the world. >> yes. and the mclaughlin group is still on and if they weren't sitting in their chairs, i might have fallen over because what she was saying basically it would be like a gunshot victim -- you said that he died of led poisoning, if he wasn't murdered. >> or died of a sudden loud burst of noise. that's unbelievable. but that's eleanor cliff. >> but repeated as if it were true. that was really bizarre to me. >> to see pat buchanan's anger, he was agas gaft. easy answers, insulting answers to easy questions.
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when you have this pattern of timothy geithner coming out and saying what he's saying, he's a guy on president obama's team, i'll even name the guys in power who told me to shade the truth. >> every white house talk to people who go on sunday shows before they do, and try to get them to avoid things that would be potentially dangerous for them. >> there's a difference -- there's a difference from trying to get someone to not say something that isn't true and encouraging someone to say something that isn't true. >> leaving that aside, this and benghazi are two entirely different things. we know that this is a political act on behalf of the white house. there is, and we also know by the way the video did in pakistan have an impact, but not in bane benghazi. we know that to be true. there are no questions left to be answered in benghazi. let it go. except you are not going to let
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it go because it's the platform of the republican party. >> that's not the call of the question. >> you would like to continue on. >> i would like to. this is a good point. when you have someone like geithner coming for and saying this, we're not going to put on our sunglasses with blienleders and say this doesn't happen, if they are going to train them and talking about going on the sunday talk shows, of course they are going to give them talking points. >> do you think the obama administration does that. >> i didn't say that. this is what we're referring to as to what goes on with benghazi. i'm not going to naive, they are going to give you an example perhaps you can say this yes or no, right. perhaps if you are asked this question, otherwise, they wouldn't be doing their job. i think it's disingenuous to suggest they didn't do that exact thing with susan rice and others. >> eleanor cliff goes on to say hillary clinton isn't the one
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who should be asked the questions, it should be david petraeus. >> dan pfeiffer, a senior aide to obama says don't tell the truth, say this, if you tell the truth, it will create a dog whistle to the democrats. that's absolutely as anine for anyone to be doing that. >> any connection to benghazi? >> if they are willing to do it to the secretary of treasury, they are probably willing to do it with susan rice -- >> you can extrapolate. >> we did do the exact same thing susan rice, don't tell the truth, don't tell what we really know, say this because otherwise it will look bad for president obama's chance to get reeectd ooe elected. my point is this -- john mccain came out and said boy this is good, they basically told her to go with these talking points when frankly she knew otherwise. she's already admitted to the fact that she was told to say
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something that they didn't believe, but yell eleanor cliff, she didn't get the memo yet. she's still trying to hold -- >> let's wait for the exit polls. not 10,000 votes will change. >> i don't care about the exit polls. i can understand the geithner thing. i don't think that was asking geithner to specifically lie. i can understand from a communications standpoint, you are asking the principle and the policy person how far could you go xyz and i sigh benghazi as something different. clippers owner donald sterling says he's not a racist. plus the historic draft in the nfl. that's next on "the five." when you sat down to dinner with anticipation, not hesitation.
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let's talk basketball. making his first public comments since a notorious tirade was released. donald sterling apologized. >> i'm a member who made a mistake and i'm asking for forgiveness. i love my league. am i entitled to one mistake? it's a terrible mistake and i'll never do it again. >> it turns out it wasn't forgiveness he was seeking. he used an opportunity to take another cheap shot at magic johnson. >> has he done everything he can do to help minorities, i don't think, but i'll say it, i'll say it, you know, he's great, but i just don't think he is a good example for the children of los angeles. >> really? expand on that a little bit. you are a communications expert,
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dana. is this the best way to get back in the public graces? >> you need to know when it's time to quit and it's -- his time has come. i think they let him off easy in the interview, but he was doing such a good job of making himself look like a jerk that's why they let him talk. >> he says his wife has indicated he might have a little bit of dementia. do you think his wife has a leg to stand on? hey, you know what, if this was a wife an owner, let's say mark cuban's wife, would you expect mark cuban to have to give up the dallas mavericks. >> i have no clue on the bylaws. he take another shot at magic johnson. whether you think he was on justly audiotaped or not, this guy is clearly dilutional.
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time to move on. sell the team. do whatever you have to do. get him out of it. >> does shelly have a leg to stand on? >> yes, she does. we don't want any sterling to ever own any part of this team, period. so you have that public sentiment against her, then you've got votes by the other nba owners, so i think it's going to become very complicated but they are going to have certain legal rights that like it or not people are going to have to respect. >> meanwhile, the clippers are still winning. this is the furthest they have ever gotten. >> the guy sounds like edge got out of a day-care center. he's whining. open up that mouth, and you listen to that, you listen to a liar and the idea of taking on don johnson. >> magic johnson. >> magic johnson, absolutely,
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give me the shovel, stop digging. you are not far away, dig your own grave. you are not ready for it. >> get sell it to oprah. >> magic was at the game the other night. let's move on and talk about michael sand. we love to talk about six round draft picks on "the five." let's talk about michael sam's. he kisses his boyfriend. everybody takes note of that, including one dolphins quarterback don jones. he tweeted omg. when somebody tweeted back are you talking about the kiss, he wrote horrible. now he's going to go back to education camp. >> i don't really care. michael sam it's very courageous and difficult to be the first to do anything and i hope that he feels that he has done something
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that was not just courageous and brave but something that will be very rewarding in his life. not just in a football career but paving the way for other people just to be who they are. >> do you want to weigh on this? >> the fact this guy went 256 in the draft, he was an all american. he has an sec. 11 and a half sacks. this guy should be in the top 20. everybody who passed him by, the owners and general managers were afraid of a gay person on their team and i would say the pox on your help. >> he had a terrible combine. >> i hope he was drafted because of his ability and not because of anything else going on. some people were saying he was pushed down. bob thinks he was pushed down in the draft because he was being
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the first openly gray player. i would say he was drafted because he was the first openly gay -- i don't think he would have been drafted had he not been. he had a terrible combine. his scores in the combine didn't earn him that draft pick. >> and he had one really good year, and that's why people say he probably went where he should. >> that's why there's too much attention paid to the combine. >> let's film him with his boyfriend, with him kissing. did they film the other 278 people. did he feel comfortable with it? god bless. bottom line, let's hope he does really well and plays great. >> the only combine i ever heard of was on my grandpa's ranch. what does that mean? >> got to go while bob still has a job. >> 14 minutes now before the top of the hour. a big effort on to fund a movie
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one liberal host and that's the reason i only get a minute and 50 seconds. a lot of kids pick up bad habits from their parents. smoking is one of them. the more a parent lights up in front of their child, the more likely he or she will become a smoker as well. every year that a parpt smokes, the odds go up. >> i think if you lead by example in the home, i think if parents smoke and drink in front of their kids, their kids will be more likely to take it up. look, i drink in front of my son. i don't smoke. i never smoke. i hope he doesn't do either, but parenting, parental responsibility, teach them against it. smoking is deadly. absolutely. >> i would say this, my dad smoke cigars. >> i'm sorry, brian.
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they are yelling. >> so they smoked with the windows up in my station wagon. the only convenient rags ventilation were the floor boards. i don't think that study is accurate. a lot of times it's a deterrent. >> i have never smoked a cigarette, bob. however, i adopted my own grandmother because i didn't have one anymore, a little old lady across the street, she smoked camel cigarettes with no filters, like ten a day and i used to sleep over there and be with her all the time. so i think it had the opposite effect on me. >> if a parent smokes, it's probably easier to start smoking or at least experiment because you can take them out of your mom's or dad's bag or whatever and try it. but i thought was interesting the second part of this packet that you didn't have a chance to get to, which is now there's a question of whether your genes, your genetic make up will maybe
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you more predisposed to cigarettes. you see what's going to happen, it's going to become a preexisting condition and now we're going to have to pay for everybody's bad habits. >> both my my wife and i smoke and neither one of my kids smoke. one more thing is up next. we need it right away! we cannot let the fans down.
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time now for one more thing. eric bolling, we beginning with you. >> did you see what happened on saturday? head there was a singing contest. this was seen by 170 million people on saturday and look who won, watch. ♪ >> so there was a big uproar. the russian mp, said that this person, conchita wurst was going to be the end of europe as we know it because they allowed a cross dressing. >> so conchita conchita wurst ended up being the best.
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>> he won by an overwhelming majority. >> good for them. >> all right. dana. earlier in the show, for my bump out music, we played the proclaimers. where it says i have walked 500 matters. the reason it matters, my little fit bit that i walk around with, i crossed the 500 mile mark. my friend gave this to me last thanksgiving around then. i wore it all winter. it really makes you get up and walk. i encourage everyone to do it. >> dana, how do you really get the numbers up? >> i do walk. >> you just move your hand. she does? i mean, she walks too. >> i'm about to cross my 2000 mark by the way on that. the washington monument, the tribute to the nation's first president was damaged by an
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earthquake has now reopened and people can go back and they fixed all the brick and they got new things up top. it's one of the great things in washington to go. go see it. >> i have a little problem with the way vladimir putin is handling the whole thing with crimea and ukraine. he led his festival stars to a victory. he was fantastic. >> why can't he be our president? >> he went for the all-time record of seven goals in a single game. >> also scored by him. >> what an effort the other team put up. the socioall stars. >> this is really important because remember i covered this case and was in the courtroom for the trial, of the murer, the abortionist, dr. kermit
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gossnell. they have raised money to make the movie. don't forget to set your dvr so you don't miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is next. the official who was president obama's top money man says the white house told him top deceive the american people about the u.s. economy. this is "special report." good evening, i'm bret baier, former treasury secretary timothy geithner says president obama's aides tried to tell him to mislead americans by certain statements. his revelations come in the wake of the ongoing controver
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