fractious in writing the factor. thanks for watching us tonight. ms. megyn is next. i'm bill o'reilly, please remember the spin always stops here. we're definitely looking out for you. i'm megyn kelly live in new york and tonight, former treasury secretary told the lie to america. fallout from a bombshell in his new book and what it means for an administration getting battered on credibility and welcome to the taxpayer supplemented white privilege conference. >> race is driving almost everything that's happening in the country. >> reporter: the meeting aimed at the teachers who educate our children, and then, the man you see getting attacked here is jay-z. the woman doing the attacking, his wife beyonce say's sister.

yeah, we got that covered on the ""kelly file"" right now. >> breaking tonight, did the white house pressure a cabinet secretary to lie to the american people? new fallout from revelations in a tall all book by a former white house insider and questions being raised about this administration's credibility. welcome to the "kelly file", everybody, i'm megyn kelly. timothy geithner writes about an exchange just before mr. geithner was to appear on a round of sunday talk shows. mr. guide neeithner said he wan to say social security is not a driver of the deficit, even though mr. geithner knew that was not true. administration talking points designed to mislead. sound familiar? joining me now, fox news

judicial analyst judge napolitano writing on credibility on this administration. he recounted clearly and said it wasn't true and pushed back and said it's not true and refused to do it. now, jay carney comes out and says, he's misremembering that. basically says, it never happened. are we to believe jay carney who we know misrepresented stuff to us repeatedly or tim quiter who said they pushed me to say one thing. >> it's hard to believe, megyn, tim geithner misrepresented or misremembered it because he misstated it in such detail. he used the word wording that said to him we need you to say this used. now, i never heard this phrase before i read the review of the book. a dog whistle to the left. >> explain to the audience what fi phifer was trying to say?

>> he had just been treasury secretary for a couple weeks, that social security which pays out tens of millions more than it takes in was not add aing to the deficit. now, you can't pay out more than you're taking in -- >> yeah, geithner said i'm not doing it. >> geithner said i'm not doing it and phifer said you have to. he said it will send a signal to the left wing base that we're still with them, a signal in the form of a lie. now this could not come out at the worst time for this administration. >> mr. geithner testifies in his book that he refused to do it, however, unless you have any doubt about what the democratic talking points were on this issue, listen to who would do it. >> social security does not add one penny to the deficit. >> i think on social security you'll find more resistance for one reason, it's not part of the deficit. >> we're not going to cut social security, which by the way, as harry reid reminded us, has

nothing to do with the deficit. >> wow. >> right? they got the memo. >> those are great. they got the memo and doesn't have the sense of security and lying. >> what does it matter? white house officials come, spin it this way, you're going on sunday talk shows. >> the government can remain silent on a matter of national security. we're about to take down osama bin laiden. you ex many spect the government to remain silent. when the government actively, aggressively lies and deceives on something the american public has the right to know, fdr promised it would be your money, we would give back your money and wouldn't go into the red and now it's in the red. not to criticize but to be honest with the american people how tax dollars are being spent, administration has an obligation to do that. this administration has been lying from day one and now with benghazi, with general clapper lying about the nsa a, you'll have mike rodgers on in a few minutes, we'll have to ask about

that, they are really, really in the dog house when it comes to credibility they lost with the american public. >> the dog whistles. judge, good to see you. >> pleasure. a new spotlight on harry reid and claims that his leadership has grown business in the senate to a halt. here is our own fox news senior political analyst. >> those of us who know harry reid by the damage he does to reputations with his out landish claims about them may miss the damage he did to the u.s. senate, the greatest body in the legislative graveyard. he claims it's because republicans are obstructionest or as he did the other day they are like quote, greased pigs. what dignity, what grace, what a guy. >> joining me now, chris our fox news digital politics editor. what is happening with harry reid? >> well, in a way, the same

thing that he's always been famous for, which is being willing to be the guy who would do anything to get ahead and to win. harry reid is famous for being tough, for being partisan, for taking the hard way, the mean way and that's his thing. but, but, but something has changed now and what seems to have changed now is that he can't get results. he can't deliver anymore, which may be a consequence of having burned over so much dag gone ground in the senate. he uses the procedural trick to get obamacare and this is the guy that nuked senate rules on presidential appointments. this is the guy who has made it almost impossible for anybody who is not a democrat and not a democrat that he approves of to amend legislation. this is the guy who runs it with an iron fist and now it ain't running at all. >> how so? is the peg that set him off to call republicans greased pigs?

>> oh, that's just a standard harry reid garbage. he does that all the time. that's his stick. he fires up. democrats -- well, it's his thing. he's not keeping the standard for what we've had over the generations for the senate majority leader but embraces that. he's a boxer, he's going to fight you. he likes that. my point is for being grody on purpose is fine but if you can't deliver in the end when you're supposed to deliver. you got a real problem? >> what subpoena haening. they may lose seats potentially in the upcoming midterms? >> i think he has the decemb desperation on him now. he needed a vote today. it was a non-controversial energy bill, energy saving bill, he was against that. what democrats need or what was the most vulnerable democrats need is a chance to vote in favor of the keystone pipeline.

he's not able to deliver those things because he has so t toxified the united states senate and not moving things that he can't deliver what he needs to deliver that means that he has done all this scorched either and all these nasty grams for nothing. >> brit talked about how he accu accused the koch brothers for climate change. interesting, chris, good to see you. >> you bet. developing tonight in ugly attack involving music royalty. tmz releasing video of jay-z being yelled at, kicked, hit by his sister-in-law who is beyonce say's sister. an entertainment reporter tracking this story, david, what

happened? >> beyonce, jay-z and her younger sister were at an after party at the standard hotel here in new york city in the meat packing district. they entered a hotel and as soon as they got into the elevator with beyonce and jay-z's body guard, she went into jz she made contact with him three times. during the duration of the video that is three minutes, you see when she throws her purse at jay-z never responds, never hits her, gives the purse back. in the meantime, beyonce, who is her big sister is standing there emotionless. maybe she's familiar with this. the body guard is holding her back and pushed the emergency stop button on the 12th floor so they wouldn't reach the ground floor while it's going on.

they make it to the ground floor. she walks out looking angry, paparazzi photos caught that with beyonce and jay-z walking out. >> do we know what she was so angry about? >> we don't. we're hearing that jay-z said something that she didn't care for and that explains it and the hotel said they are investigating the security leak because it's a major violation of the privacy. >> any charges coming that we know of? >> no charges yet but the hotel said they will press charges when they find the culprit of who sold the video. >> about selling the video and not selling damage. it's between family at this point. thank you. we have breaking news on the so-called black mass at harvard university. wait until you hear this. after a week of mounting anger over the university refusing to cancel an all out attack on catholics, a big development announced just hours ago.

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breaking news, over weeks of complaints a black mass that was going to be held at harvard university say they were moving the event off campus and no longer holding it at all and another group may hold it instead. tony perkins is the president of the family research counsel and president and ceo of whitman insight strategies, we want to talk about this and the football player incident getting all the attention tonight. i want to start with the satanic mass that's been cancelled because there is so much pressure on the group that wanted to mock the christianity and thought it would be fun to have a devil worshipping event. >> this is the right outcome. i'm glad they decided not to have it. i agree with drew who is the president of harvard and the chaplains. this is a part that shouldn't be

held but the principal under pins not only harvard but the entire democracy freedom of expression. the president of the chaplain said something i think more powerful. he says the best way to overcome hatred is to overwhelm it. i think rather than be overly concerned about a very small minority with the views rather he's doing what we should do in face of the situations in showing how love and acceptance can trump that and as i understand it -- >> we need to love and accept -- >> the catholic church is holding two acceseparate events >> love and acceptance is good but is there a double standard? if a group wants to hold something with the profit of moe

h -- mohammed? >> i agree. there is a double standard it's okay to hock christianity, we're demanding more and more from society, society is demanding that christians be toll tolerant and hostile towards christianity but increasingly, there is little sensitivity given to those things held dear to christians. >> speaking of which, there is a controversial over this football player michael sam who is drafted to go into the nfl to the rams, he was almost the last draft pick and the cameras were there at these nfl draft picks, they tell me and he was seventh from last. he was very happy and he and his boyfriend. he's the first openly gay nfl player. he and his boyfriend shared a kiss and it's caused controversy

by some and there is a backlash. do you see a difference in the way michael sam has been treated and the attention given to him and what we saw with tim tebow and the expressions of his faith condemned in a lot of sickles. >> the situations are different. michael some is deserving of praise because why? he's the first openly gay player in a field that's been filled with homo phobia. they play in the locker room and huddle but there has never been before an openly gay player and as christianity is, homo phobia is also pervasive and now that we have a gay hopeful and player, we'll have a recent poll of nfl athletes shows that 2/3rds have heard coaches,

teammates use homophobic slurs. he could be the jackie robinson of the community. >> tim tebow, boy, oh, boy, did he take a lot of mocking. >> i don't think it was so pervasive that john 3:16 was no longer able to put under his eyes. the nfl sent a clear message, it's okay if you're an a nfl player for you to embrace your boyfriend on national television but not okay for you as an nfl player to embrace your faith. we saw last year where there were those involved in the draft where speculating on where tebow might go saying that no team will pick him up because of the media circus that will follow him when in fact there was a bias against his faith. here, he was the heisman trophy winner, when you compare skills, no comparison. the media circus will follow

closely behind sams. what is disturbing here, i'm a free market person. i think the team has a right to pick him up. he has a right to play. no problem there whatsoever. here you have a player in miami, don jones tweets out oh, man, after this kiss he doesn't like it. what happens to him? he is sent to reeducation camp. >> he tweeted out omg horrible. >> that was an expression. >> go ahead, bernard. what is that? should he be punished for tweeting omg horrible? >> michael sam's jersey i bought on saturday night is number two ahead of the number one draft pick. there is tremendous change in america society increasing embrace of homosexuality in daily life and i think this is a basic expression of that and a lot of gay guys happen to like football. i like football. i hope i can see him wear his jersey on the field. >> what do you make of tony's

point, how don jones should not have been punished for tweeting -- >> i believe there is a morals clause in the nfl, they have to not bring disgrace upon the team and that was an inappropriate expression and they work for the nfl and my good friend tony on christianity is absolutely embraced in the nfl if you watch football, and i'm sure you do, any time they have a microphone in the huddle, you hear them praying -- >> i got to go. i got to give tony the quick last word. go ahead, tony. >> look, fairness, a fair playing field where people are able to express themself if sam is going to express himself, jones and everybody else ought to be able to express themselves, as well. breaking news on the upcoming benghazi hearing and what one key hilary ally has planned to protect her. plus, the undercover videos from a meeting aimed at the teachers who educate our children.

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central to america, white supremacy has been embedded in the united states of america since founding. >> race is driving everything that's happening in the country. >> the longer you're in the tea party t the more racist you become. >> those clips are part one into the investigation into the annual white privilege conference. the event is gathering for teachers, students and others designed to educate them on

privilege and oppression experienced by americans of all colors. when a group of investigators went in, they found a crash course in capitalism and christianity. kyle olson is founder of the education action group foundation that sent the cameras into this year's conference. thanks for being here. this is actually the 15th annual white privilege conference. this is something they done annually and how do they go from talking about white privilege to bashing capitalism? >> because their their theory i capitalism created race as a way to divide the working class. their theory is that if we're able to eliminate capitalism, we can unite the working class and over throw the capitolests. >> are these clips out of context? you put it on the screen and

they are out of context and it's not fair. >> no, we don't take things out of context because our credibility is everything. this is simply the teaser, this is part one. we have four parts coming out of progressives today.com all this week where there will be more context, more antiinflammatory statements and so people can go to that website and judge for themselves. >> i look at the events and the lectures that you guys covered that were offered there. here is one, an example, white women, colon, internalize sexism and white superiority. what does that mean? is that course on, exactly? and then there is against the tea party movement and you can see other ones on the board. these were actual conferences -- i mean, events? >> yes, they are. what is so disturbing is as you said earlier, taxpayer dollars from universities, school districts, cities went to pay for this conference, went to send educators to this

conference and one of the clips that we'll release later this week, one of the speakers actually says we can't talk about a the reconstruction in 11th and 12th grade that's too late. we need to get to four and five-year-olds. >> let me ask you this, i realize some of these statements are eye-opening to put it mildly like that business about the longer you're in the tea party, the more racist you become, however, some of the messages they seem to be raising speaks to, you know, privilege that you h may have and not even know. i'm privileged. if i want to, i can arrange to be around people of any race all the time. i can go shopping, i can be sure if i ask to speak to the person in charge, i'll face a person of my race. that stops people who are white and make you say, you know what, that is my experience and maybe they are trying to raise

awareness of how non-white individuals live life in america right now. >> and i think if that's what it was, that would make sense and i think schools should do that. educators should do that. they go way beyond and attack capitalism, christianity, they attack the enlighteningment because the enlighteningment brought about the individual and the importance of the individual versus the collective and so one of the speakers, release this week will attack the enlighteningment. that's how unhinged they are. there were 2400 people at this conference, they just absorb this information and then they go out to their classrooms across the country and they teach very young kids this sort of rhetoric and propaganda. >> that's interesting. kyle, we'll continue to follow it and watch your website.

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from the world headquarters of fox news, it's the "kelly file" with megyn kelly. first they were kidnapped and now they are converted?

video surfacing of 130 or so young school girls, many christian dressed in muslim garb and chanting royalty to allah. these would be half of the girls kidnapped from a terror group. one of the terrorists to say the young girl the have been liberated. the effort to find then getting global attention including from a push from michelle obama. she did not mention the islamic extremist views. the on going threat to women's rights is the subject of the documentary honor diaries, a film that features hirsi ali. they sentenced her to die for outspokenness against violence in the muslim world, but she will not be silenced by threats. i spoke with her about this new video just a short time ago. >> it took us a long time to get

interested in this cause because we are so determined to separate the outcome, the kidnappings, the violence, first conversions from its basis. >> we don't want to touch it? >> we don't want to touch it. it's not only us. it's the case in nigeria. i grew up in kenya. we listen to many well-meaning muslims who says it has nothing to do with islam and the koran. it's an aberration. what we're seeing time and time and time again is sadly it's not an aberration. >> explain that, though. we had somebody on the program recently talking about the difference in her mind, she wrote a book between sheeriaism and islam. they said they are different and peace loving who say orldwide

sheeriaism have nothing to do with us. >> i grew up in a muslim household and community. i remember as a teenager, we used to be regular muslims and when things change and members of our own community started to preach, they called it dower. what they were teaching was hostile to women. it was intolerant, and in those early stages, none of us stood up to the preachers to tell them what you're saying is wrong. we didn't say that. because they were quoting from the koran. if you teach women should be covered from head to toe and locked up and then eventually you have a large enough fellowship and you execute it, that yes, it is part and parcel of our model makeup, religion and it is a challenge for muslims today to recognize that. once they do that, they can stop the preachers before they get to

that level of terror. >> you come under fire because you've been a harsh critic of islam in the past. in your defense, your father tried to marry you off to a cousin, a forced marriage. yout genital mutilation and brandeis denied you the chance to speak. you want to call attention to violence of girls in the muslim world and then we see this. in the wake of this, we have the first lady who is making a call for attention to these girls, which is good, but she doesn't mention in her radio address the girls are christian and the captors are radical gjihadests. do we need to understand that? >> we need to understand that, if we don't understand and acre knowledge, i think a lot of us

understand, we won't understand what is happening to girls and women in pakistan whether they belong to religious minorities or terrorism. >> because it's not just boca a har haram. >> it's even in europe. when you convince young men it's okay to kidnap girls and sell them into slavery and understand they are doing this through a conviction, they say we liberated these girls. you have to understand that level of conviction. you have to understand that somehow it is derived from islam unreformed. i think there is a possibility for islam to be reformed. i think the opportunity is right here, but i think it all begins with acknowledging that there is something wrong in the first place. >> last question to you, several muslim groups have come out and denounced boca haram and muslim organizations including organizations like care among

many others. what do you make of that? because sometimes they are criticized for being too slow to condemn and at least with their words condemned this group. >> with their words, i would say that's a first step but i'm not convinced. in their denounceuations, they called boca haram is scam group. that means they are in that state of denial. it has nothing to do with islam and if it has nothing to do with islam, they don't have to reform. for those girls, it doesn't mean a thing. >> thanks so much for being here. we'll continue to follow it. >> thank you for having me. >> she's a brave woman. joining me now mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence community and former agent. she's a brave woman. is there a reason that the connection between this faction

of islam is not discussed more, in other words, the first lady got criticized for not specifically referencing what kind of group we're talking about here? >> absolutely. if you look at when americans arrived in afghanistan, megyn, it was against the law to teach your daughters how to read. right? so we've been dealing with this since 2000 and 2001 in the united states and that is rooted in some form of islam and we had a terrific difficulty is getting them to moderate preaching on fridays to their congregations. that has to happen. islam has to take ownership in these activities because you find it in nigeria. you find it in cameroon. you find it in libya. you find it in yemen. you find it in afghanistan. now you find it in iraq. this obviously isn't an

aberration. >> what do you make of the fact these groups on paper condemned this boca haram? is that meaningful or cover? >> i think it's a good start but it's only cover, if it doesn't continue, if this is just one event and of course, this got national attention and everybody is doing the hashtag on it, that's great, except we have women in afghanistan that need the same care and attention that the rest of these young girls need. same with yemen and same with the other places and we get ready to walk away from the women that we asked to participate. it's going to happen in nigeria if we do that and other places around the world. >> hirsi ali had her honorary degree revoked and her invitation to speak revoked because she's a harsh critic of islam in general but been fearless in talking about violence against women in the muslim world. she's one of the main one whose points out what happens to little girls in places like

afghanistan. should american universities be shutting the speech down? it's a dicey subject if you made, because in essence, you criticize islam to some extent when you point out what happens with honor violence. >> candidly, megyn, from someone like this to stand up and say there is violence against women, there is a path for reform. she's not condemning islam in total. she's saying there is an opportunity to reform islam or moderate its position on how the religion and mainly how it teaches young men to treat women in the religion in places like boca haram or al qaeda or the taliban. her voice is incredibly valuable as we try to understand differences. my argument is there should be more people from islam, more joining her call for this moderation of islam if they

really do believe that this is wrong, what boca haram is doing, we shouldn't stop there. more al qaeda affiliates, me behavior like this is on the horizon if we don't stand up and again, we're disappointed in the university for not allowing her to speak and allowing her voice to be heard in something that i think is as serious as you see with these 300 girls captive being sold as slaves, being married off a. some we don't know where they are at. >> turns out she had a lot to say on an important issue. the benghazi terror attack could be a big issue for hillary clinton's aspirations and up next, what a key ally has planned as congress readies its investigation. the news is about to break right here. how did we do it last time? i don't know... i forget.

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republicans critical about what happened in benghazi should not fear the truth, should not worry, we're not going to used a jekttives and engage in personal attacks. we'll be a truth squad and be there to ensure whoever is using it will rely on the organization to help get us the facts. >> so a truth squad is similar to what you did for bill clinton in '97. >> yes. >> don't you have faith for the democrats doing their business? >> i hope they are going to be there. there is some mistake and assumption not showing up is a good way to get facts out or challenge those misstating. >> so you do think they should participate? >> absolutely. i think we had plenty of investigations and plenty of acceptance by secretary of state clinton who after all took a report by the ambassador who

served republican and democratic and chairman and joint chief of staff -- >> i know. they never interviewed her. >> to fix the problem -- >> what about the democrats who will be on the select committee. why does lonnie davis need to go? >> we had plenty of great democrats in the room. we'll handout what the facts are such as the origin of spontaneous demonstration came from the cia from the first talking points to the 14th. that's a fact we'll be reminding people of who try to say it was the white house political agaena that made up the phrase. >> lanny, great to see you. we know him. hey, hey, great to see you. >> thank you. up next, breaking news until the scandal at the veterans

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breaking news just this moment on the growing scandal at the veteran's administration and allegations staffers gamed the system covering up how long it took some vets to get the medical care they needed. we just got an e-mail saying two staffers have been suspended in north carolina for what are being called inappropriate scheduling practices. this on the heels of similar news we were planning to bring you out of cheyenne, wyoming. adam is an air national guard pilot and iraq war veteran. sir, good to see you, we literally moments ago got this breaking news out of during ram, we had news out of cheyenne on

the heels of what we learned of 40 dead veterans in phoenix as a result of scheduling issues. how massive is this? >> look, i mean, this is massive. i think what we'll find out this goes deeper. what you see are employees more interested in protecting their jobs at the va than veterans that utilize services and gone without cancer screenings. i wear on my wrist the name of a guy named christopher who gave his life in afghanistan and that's a reminder to me every day that if we ask our people to give their life for their country or be willing to give their life for the country, we owe them the best care in the va and we have failed and that has to change and now. >> it's one thing to not give the best care, quite another to be actively hiding the truth and the facts and basically screwing the veterans, excuse my french. let me put the e-mail on the board out of cheyenne. this is one of the staffers there. yes, the staffer, david newman who has been suspended now says,

it's gaming the system a bit but you have to know the rules of the game you are playing and when we exceed the 14-day measure the front office gets upset. this is the attempt to hide the much more than two-week wait time they were forcing the vets to endure and that's what they say led the deaths in phoenix, up to six months vets had to wait. >> my grandfather fought in world war ii. i continue to fly with a lot of people. this is not a game. this is life and death. this is dead real, and this is what we make a commitment to the people that defend us every day. look, not only do people need to be suspended and fired, we need to talk about who needs to end up in jail over this because if you are going through and creating a problem that is in some cases maybe costing veterans their lives, it's negligence and this goes to a level that's far beyond anything i think we've dealt with so far. >> my question to you, here is my question to you, news out of cheyenne, it was a cbs news report, it's unclear why it took

five months and an inquiry for the va to take action against this employee there because they said back in december, this was unearthed they had done this at a clinic, an offshoot of the va out there but basically say washington knew or had reason to know months and months ago, we're hearing that more and more at these administration out posts. at what point do you think the white house, if at all, should lose confidence in shinseki behind whom they are still standing right now? >> shinseki may be a good guy at heart. he needs to come out massively and change things, but i don't think he survives this, to be honest. the head of any company would be run out of town with these results. he's a great guy, i'm sure, but at some point we need answers and i want to see massive, massive changes to the va. we've been talking about this for too long, the backlog and talking about people deleaving

records to make themselves look good and not worry about the veterans. it's offensive and has to stop and something america ought to be incensed about. >> so sad shinseki, the secretary a veteran himself, obviously cares about veterans and so do most of the staffers. sir, good to see you. let me know what you think, tweet me at megyn kelly or leave me a comment. coming up on hannity at the top of the hour. >> the democrats are rating from the same partisan talking points and getting up and saying we've had lots and lots of hearings, there is no reason to answer any other questions. i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase like 60,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000 in the first 3 months

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