tonight on "red eye." >> coming up on "red eye" just how bad were the wright brothers' early attempts at flight? newly uncovered historical footage shows they had no idea what they were doing for quite some time. plus, did the president admit to hatching an evil plot to steal the lunch money of every kid in america? >> no matter who you are and what you look like and where you come from and what your last name is, i'm gonna take it. it is worth applauding. >> and finally cow wrestling. other shows said it couldn't be done, but our team of investigative journalists may have found a sport more boring than soccer. none of these stories on "red eye" tonight. >> i'm tom shillue filling in

for greg gutfeld who will be back next week. now our guests if you see her in public waive at her and if she doesn't waive back at you, she hates you you. say hi to joanne. what is behind the big blue eyes 1234* some claim it is genetics, but i am a romantic. it is andy levy. and if he doesn't wipe that smile off his face i will give him something to smile about, an ice cream cone. it is bloomburg digital rowser. punk is a style of music he partakes in playing. base cyst for the vandals it was announced the vandals will be touring with bad religion and off spring and penny wise. those are bands. it begins in pittsburgh july 29th. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story.

>> should we avoid deadly droids? that's the subject of tonight's -- >> "red eye" debate, 2014, live from the" red eye" debate center. >> welcome to tonight's "red eye debate live from the" red eye" debate center. i'm tom shillue. two people are supposed to face-off on the killedder issue of rot boughts in front of a convention in geneva. the question, should we develop autonomous metal man? one professor says killer robots may be better at figuring out when to engage targets. but professor sharky said autonomous weapons systems cannot be guaranteed predictably to comply with international law. an advocacy group agrees saying human judgment is important to use to any decision to use a weapon.

i am more concerned about another threat. >> ♪ you know why ♪ >> that is soothing. i like the music. joe, killer robots, yes or no? please make sure your answer come ports with mine even though i haven't given mine yet. >> i say keep it going. this is the greatest subject they ever tackled. >> you think so? >> they can do no harm. >> where do you come down? you are probably a civil libertarian. you don't want robots shooting innocent people out of the sky probably. >> it is a good way to train

the up and coming video gamers. now we have a way for them to serve our country. my nephews can't do kneeing. >> that's a good point. people will be excellent at controlling robots from the skies. couldn't deploying robots help? maybe the human robots will cut down on error? >> haven't you learned anything from "terminator" 1 threw four. >> they end the same way, spoiler alert, all of the robots kill all of the humans. >> wait. >> except for sean connor. america is already facing a disadvantage when we go to checkbook warfare. who will make these for us? detroit? >> that's a good point. the machines in detroit, did you see them? they are so exacting. maybe they are better than a human being. isn't a bomb worse?

it blows up and kills everybody in the vicinity. why not pinpoint them with a computer? >> you do not see me agreeing with you at all, tom. as usual i wasn't listening. we are talking about the video game generation and it doesn't apply. we are talking about autonomous robots. robots not controlled by humans on the battlefield. >> they are programed by some. >> programed yes. >> that's what i'm saying. most video game players can't write code. >> one of the big ease problems is machines can't improvise. there is the old military maxim that no plan and they have to make quick decisions and even low-level troops have to improvise and adapt. the question is will we get to the point we can prom the robots to be that flexible? we are not there yet. we can't send in robots and

say do this. five minutes later the mission changes or the parameter changes. you have turned these things loose and you are screwed. >> you are all for the manned drones? >> depends how they are used. >> joanne, have you been watching "mad men"? >> no. >> they are all upset about this computer. they think it is ruining the advertising world. >> you just ruined the sear -- series. >> no, people were upset, but it is okay. maybe we are scared of the future. >> it is a great idea. i am all for this. you want to know why? it will completely change warfare. it will be robots versus robots. think about it. when you send people out and when you are battling in another country it is robots and roy boughts. and -- robots and robots. it is a great way to see who has the most intelligence and the most money and then we will really see who is on top. you will build the best

robots. and then people won't die. they won't die because they are not real. >> favorite robot in television or film? >> oh wow. >> there has been a lot of them. >> my favorite is the robot in "lost in space." >> favorite robot from television or film? >> gigantore. >> wait, i know that. it had a theme song. ♪ gigantore. >> that was in the 60s? >> it was in japan and changed the name and made it less violent. >> andy, i know what you are saying. >> i thought you were going to say who are the women? number 38 in battle star galactica. >> i don't consider them robots. >> the femmebots. >> the femmebots on "six

million dollar man." >> i am talking austin power. you rip off their heads and there are wire behind them. chris, favorite robot on television and film? >> only gay robot, c3po. >> i don't know why anyone questions -- to me he is the epitomy of manhood. >> you can be manly and gay. >> tell me about it. that's offensive, tom. >> oh that showed me. >> this is the perfect lead in. the kiss lead to a disc. it was the biggest gay sports story of the weekend. michael sam was picked in the seventh round of the nfl draft. shortly after don jones tweeted, quote, horrible. to use the football term jones has been put in the penalty box.

he was fined and must complete educational training for the comment. >> it was one word. >> the defensive back apologized in a statement to sam, his miami teammates, the organization, fans and me personally. the dolphins coach added, "we met with don today about respect, discrimination and judgment. these comments are not consistent with the values and standards of our program." i guess he means not anymore. meanwhile in other sports news, the nhl playoffs are heating up. here are some highlights from this weekend's hockey action. ♪ >> i was getting into the music there. fortunately jones was the only

person to make a negative comment anywhere on the internet. >> no other negative comment. >> what was your reaction to jones' comment. what did he say? horrible? >> yes. >> it was an indicated how divorced the nfl is from the rest of mainstream working america. in 7 of 10 workplaces you would never hear someone make a comment like that. in miami, 10 out of 10 work workplaces you would not hear anybody say that. when people talk about the atmosphere in the nfl not being ready and you say sure, this is evidence of the fact you need gay people in that environment teaching people not to be afraid. and it is tough for the first gay people. michael sam is tough though. >> shouldn't we wait for the players to show their metal and people can learn about the way they learn. do they have to go through the training? does he need sensitivity training? >> he has to make a stance about this.

it goes against the team's standards of tolerance. they probably have that written down somewhere. >> and he can probably read. letting it go unremarked upon is perpetuating the fact it is okay, and it is not okay. >> he just tweeted one word. i don't know this guy. he could be a big jerk or something. he tweeted horrible. i wouldn't even know what to think. i wouldn't think it is an anti-gay statement. i thought it was weird he was crying. you don't cry when you are picked by a team. >> first of all it is dumb and with the bullying thing, he acts like maybe he gets hit in the head for a living. i don't like the way he backpedaled. >> he really backpedaled. did you see the apology? it was a one-word tweet. >> they cut out where he said

it is hairable how high dressed -- horrible how he dressed because i am gay too. >> will he benefit from the training? will he put his head down and go through it? >> i think he would benefit from a publicist that tweets for him. a lot of celebrities have that. >> i can't believe they are not free to tweet. >> it goes back to what you are saying. it is the idea of the unknown. when people are afraid of something a little bit and don't know what to do, that's a defense i think. i think a sensitivity course, it will be good. you won't make the same mistake again. >> i must need a sensitivity course because i would have tweeted horrible, but not about the gay thing. i didn't like the fact he was crying about this. it is football. those guys should be tough and not cry. and he ate cake. they had cake? is this a 9-year-old birthday

party? >> oh dear. i don't even know where to start with you. he tweeted horrible in a reaction to sam and his boyfriend kissing. >> on that, andy, what if some guy -- i don't want a guy smooching his wife if he made the nfl either. >> you saw that with other players. they had their girlfriends and kissed and hugged their girlfriends. >> they shouldn't do that either. >> i don't think they should be married either. i'm here. >> i don't think all of this emotionalism -- oh i got picked by the team, way to go. put on your helmet. >> people like you, tom, you always say oh i don't want to see it from anybody. but nobody ever tweets "horrible" or" oh my god" or "ew" when it is a man and woman kissing. >> i think i have. on "the good wife" when they are making out i say come on you are lawyers.

you should be practicing law and not making out. >> i kind of agree with you. i don't think he needs to go to a sensitivity class. you can sit him down and in 30 seconds explain to him why he hospital have done what he did. >> and talking about a pr firm, i would have said when they get down on him for being anti-gay he can say i don't like people eating cake. i am a football player. >> didn't anybody listen to michelle owe obama? >> it is not healthy. they should be eating fruit. >> pr firms, take note. i am here with the public apology passe. not apologizing is the new apologizing. yes, it is time for this. >> we all know the drill. someone says something shocking or maybe not so

shocking. and then someone gets someone else to send out a press release saying they are offended. then the offender has miss pr people send out a release with his heart felt apology. it is neither heart felt nor apologetic. perhaps charles barkley can change that. he got in trouble for his comments about the women in san antonio. >> why would you say that a? >> that's a gold mine for weight watchers. >> they can't wear no victoria's secret down there. they wear the big old bloomers down there. ain't nothing skimpy in san antonio, shaq. >> his comments prompted outrage and calls for him to apologize. on sunday he responded. >> if you don't like me or the show, turn it off. they want me to apologize. that's not gonna happen. to be -- >> what is there to apologize about? >> about the big old women down there. write letters to your mama,

daddy, uncle, i'm gonna have fun on till vision. you know i'm joking around. if you are all waiting on me to apologize, hell will freeze over. >> i was joking. i was kidding. that's all it should take. you are offended? i was kidding. that used to solve so many problems. joking is allowed in this thing called life. as for that i apologize to anyone who might have been offended. if that doesn't work, you have to go all the way to say anyone who was offended, don't be. >> joanne, i bet you are a great apologizer when called upon to do so. should you be called upon to do so? aren't you sick of apologies? >> i feel like you are attacking me right now and i should be apologizing. >> see, you are a nice gal. >> i hate when people are mad at me. i will often say things and i don't realize people are offended by it.

i try not to have opinions. >> you went through the whole pageant thing. you have been brushing up on the pr and stuff like that. isn't it not even good pr anymore? you don't even believe these people. >> that's the thing. i say to who ever is taking care of me, listen, can you deal with this? can you talk to these people and pretend it is me? people dig a hole. a lot of these apologies you are digging yourself deeper and deeper. i appreciate what charles barkley is doing. sorry i am not sorry. >> i wanted to read his quote, but apparently we had tape. i wanted to do charles barkley. i am not apologizing. chris, you probably deal with the media -- you are in the media and deal with the pr people all the time. am i right? it is passe. it is not going to work. let's be honest. >> my favorite is when someone hires a crisis pr firm. a crisis pr firm was brought in to deal with charles

barkley. it is already a crisis. i feel like -- what are those people going to do at that point? unless it is olivia pope in "scandal." >> we canada fine crisis down. >> they are getting at it from all angles. >> crisis pr management is what bp calls in when their oil is all over the gulf coast. that's a crisis. >> am i wrong? is damage control out of control? >> he must be confident in these jobs. he goes double down. he doesn't like that job that much. >> charles barkley, right? he is known for being politically incorrect so he can get away with it. >> it was refreshing. >> companies can't deal with it. >> he might lose an endorsement and where does he go? >> i guess he doesn't really care. >> i am fine with apologizing if you think you did something wrong.

but if you say something and it wasn't meant to offend and then they say this was offensive. you are right, i shouldn't have said that. i'm fine with that. it is the insincere apologies. >> like the guy from the dolphins. >> i am tired of the insincere apologies. i am curious whether tnt will force charles to backpedal. >> i doubt it. coming up, my stock port toll yow. invest in your future and your future will invest in you. a new website to attract male nudity. it is stories like this that remind me it is still greg gutfeld's show.

do jocks know jack? over land college is planning to talk about transgender people. it would force all coaches and athletic staff to attend transgender sensitivity training. that's like regular sensitivity except you might be surprised about where the sensitive parts are located. students would not be required to attend, but they would be strongly encouraged. additionally the new policy would replace all gender specific singular pronouns such as he, she, his and her with their plural equivalent with they, them and theirs. if you want to right a wrong you must correct it with incorrect grammar. the changes are part of a drat policy -- draft policy called collusion for inter collegiate

student athletes. anyway, he is best known as a basketball power house. i believe we have tape of the team practicing. >> andy a little trivia, in that costumes was joe devito.

>> i did not know that. >> it is a hot yoga thing. andy, why does he have a sports program? >> i didn't know he did. that is very surprising to me actually. this is overland being overland. we talked about it on the show. when transgender people get mad you say how can i keep up with it? now they are giving people a chance to learn it. >> you know that's where people get into trouble. they feel dumb because they don't know what to say. >> they are saying we are going to teach you. i don't have a problem with that. i have a problem replacing the singular pronouns with they, their and theirs. it is incorrect grammar. i am fine with coming up with another seng giew lar pronoun that is not male or female, but i can't stand the plural pronoun thing. >> would you rather be called

they or that hot broad over there? >> i have gotten used to the broad. i will stick with that. no, what andy is saying, it is great they are offering this opportunity. even if it makes one person feel comfortable in their school. it is a great step forward. they said the actual athletes themselves are encouraged to go. they don't have to go. i think they should have to go. you go to one course you may as well. if you are trying to educate people do it the right way. make sure everyone is on the same page. >> he doesn't need to. you are constantly being reminded by your fellow students how you are supposed to be talking. am i right? >> yes, but they like that stuff. >> is it ever needed this sensitivity training? when you are in certain communities you learn to be more sensitive. isn't it wrong on -- wrong to

take away these terms? sbt it respectful -- isn't it respectful to learn the term for whatever gender they are? >> the specific term is a transgender student athlete that is female at birth and is/is not taking hormone therapy for gender transition. that seems a little complicated. >> it is funny they want to go more general. they want to use things like they. i thought it was more respectful to say -- to use the initials. >> i disagree with the female on the panel. she thinks it is worth it. i think it is only worth it if there are two. >> we can agree to disagree. >> that is your only difference? >> there has to be two. >> if you go to overland you

have to expect this. >> because their sensitivity can be hyper hypersensitivity. >> obviously they need it in miami. he needs the training. not the kids. still to come, was jay-z assaulted by his sister-in-law in an elevator? it sounds dangerous. maybe he should have stuck to selling crack. first, a word from our sponsor. >> tonight's c block is sponsored by qiurp-dirks. great for dwerps and adam sandler. get corpdirks.

it is a little less tough to find fellas in the buff. mr. skin.com which has been chronicling female nudity on tv since 1999 launched a companion site for all things nude dudes. mr. man.com, as it is called, contains only a few thousand nude male clips. that's compared to 700,000 on the female version. but the list is growing all the time. it explains the founder jim mcbride. traditionally movies were written, directed and owned by

men so the nudity was mostly female. now society changed and it is a different era where it is totally acceptable for guys to do nude scenes. according to the site's calculations, the number one nude star is antonio banderas with 14 skin baring films. ewing mcgreger is second with 10. "red eye"'s matthew mcconaghey is 9th with sixth. but we contend his dance in "magic mike" should count for double. this mr. man membership actually cost money. it is $96 -- i thought this was a free site when i was looking this up. i figured they would sell advertisement like everybody else. the mr. man is $96 and the mr. mr. skin, the female version -- am i right about that? it is only $60. it doesn't seem fair. >> there are way more films

where women are nude than men are nude. there are five or six in a year. and gay guys want to spend more money on this than straight guys. >> you can get naked men without paying. >> i hadn't thought of that. are they saying women are going to be spending the money on this? what do you think? >> that's what they are claiming. >> i just -- my problem is first of all it has to be distressing. harvey is not a strong selling point. >> i want to know where is the website for trans nudity? >> if there is a need he is obviously going to fill it. i just want to know why do you think it is more money for the men than the women? >> because there are more customers for the women. they are making it up on

volume. there was a quote i heard from donald sterling. he was trying to tell him about christians. he said they are stupid and they want to make money. >> joanne, you are the only woman i know of on the panel. >> this is disgusting. why are we object tau fying -- object tau fying men this way? >> and do you really want to see guys 1234* they are ugly. we don't want to see naked guys. it is terrible. am i right? >> women are beautiful. women's bodies are beautiful. they are trying to be equal. if they wanted to be it would

be called ms body. >> that's why i keep getting missed -- mixed up. >> and mr. skin -- isn't that interesting? they don't refer to women in this at all. women are just skin to these guys. >> why don't you just have a women's section and a men's section. >> it is about the money. >> when women -- if a woman sees that another woman is looking at a site like this they think something is wrong with her. if a man sees another man oh that's cool. if you don't look at it, you are weird. but if a woman is like hey i spent $niches 6 on this site -- $96 on this site. >> maybe that is mr. whatever body. >> there are no places to look for free on the internet.

>> did you look into the right situation? they can't have the right scene of harvey on there. >> nobody has the right to show nude scenes. >> he doesn't even look in the mirror. >> next topic. a texas high school student has given a student an in school suspension for refusing to stand for the pledge of allegiance. 15-year-old mason michelick said he was doing so all year because of his opposition to government spying, but ran into trouble when a different teacher caught on. i don't agree with the nsa spying on us and i don't agree with any of the internet logs. by finishing him did the school district violate his first amendment rights? >> should he just stand up and say the brej? >> it sounds like a failure of

teaching. with this kid and that school then that's what they get. >> i am going steal from one of your last points. why doesn't the school go to this kid and demand that he stand not because of the pledge to the united states of america, but michelle obama's get fit program. what is called? let's move program. they should say everybody has to stand. you don't have to pledge, ut but you have to stand. >> someway to get the guy to stand up and not making a spectacle. obviously they didn't come up with anything. >> andy he is probably your hero. >> he actually reminds me of a bunch of jehovah witnesses who were expelled for refusing to salute the flag. it says forcing students to salute the flag violated the first amendment. this school what they are doing is unconstitutional.

>> it is texas, right? >> another answer full of actual cited court decisions. >> it was west virginia state board of education. >> i knew that. should he be allowed to sit down for the pledge? >> i haven't stood up in 15 years. >> i find it interesting that the people who get riled up about this are adults who are probably never saying the pledge of allegiance. >> they weren't making them say the pledge, am i right? >> they kicked him out for or they -- for not standing. >> isn't that something they do in school all the time. you can't exit the classroom until the bell rings. you have to walk in the hallway and don't run. tuck that shirt in.

>> hold your chair when you walk to the assembly. >> i think the supreme court, you would argue even the act of sanding counts as speech. >> it is fine if you want to follow your own beliefs because of your first amendment rights. his reasoning is so off base to me. he has a facebook. i'm sure he ordered stuff off of amazon. he accepted the terms of agreement. if you are saying about the internet rules that are getting you all riled up, that's off base. >> if anyone has ago sended -- accepted terms and conditions on a website doesn't have an argument i am guilty. >> if you have been to the kids' website. >> he did a good thing and a lot of it was secure. he did post something about people spying.

he is doing his job. >> is this even a good argument against the nsa? can't he find another way to protest? >> i don't know how one has to do with the other, but personally i don't think if you are forcing people to say the pledge then there is nothing patriotic about it. >> that's a compromise. it is time to take a break. more stuff when we come back.

>> they let her pose with stomach exposed. it was this bough key know clad -- bikini clad photo. it needed an after photo with a shirt on. birmingham who has lost 170 pounds said she was furious at the double standard of the

magazine showing women in tight fitting tops and sports bras while telling her to cover up. she said it gave readers a false look at weight loss. now after the prcrap storm "shape" will feature it in the magazine. andy, you saw the picture. obviously they were looking for a picture with a shirt on. she caused the firestorm saying you can take this picture or nothing. was she justified? >> i was on her side until i saw the picture and then i understood why the magazine didn't want to run it. she makes a good point in saying that if this magazine is to help people get in shape and to celebrate getting in shape, and by showing people who have always been in shape, when she says they are giving an untrue picture of what you look like when you actually lose a lot of weight she has a point. on the other hand, i don't want to see that.

>> joe, the dramatic weight loss, now she has all of these folds of skin on her. andy is right. there is a story here, but it may not be a before and after picture. we know what they do. they celebrate how good you look. she says "i am beautiful the way i am." but why say that a? why not say look, this is what happens. it may not be beautiful, but it is reality. >> i think she was more attractive before that. >> you liked her plumpness? >> the way the picture did, that scared me. it really scared me. >> should she walk around in a bikini or cover up? what do you think? >> put on a nice little top. i think that's what girls call them. put on a top. it shows that you slimed down. it has to be somebody's job to keep that picture away from customers. >> i don't think you two are the demographic for the magazine. >> i was looking at this story

on a lot of local news and all of the women on the panel were saying good for her. she is great. she lost all of that weight. >> it is wonderful that she feels good about herself and she is willing to show that, but a lot of women are not. a lot of women after losing the weight are insecure with what they are left. same with a woman going through childbirth and loses the baby weight and then has extra skin left over which is perfectly normal. however, i think they should feature women wearing swimsuits that cover for those women who are uncomfortable with showing that extra skin. it is about dressing for your body type to show off the good parts. >> she wants to walk around in a bikini and say look, she is proud, whatever. why does "shape" magazine have to be guilted? like you said they don't want to apologize like everyone else we have talked about. they don't want to apologize for it later. >> there is a theme in the show. all of these stories have a similar angle.

>> isn't this an issue of the woman? she was playing the magazine for publicity. she said here is the picture. when they said no she published it on her blog. now they have to come out and say no, no, we love her as she is. what a brilliant analysis. >> it sounds like they asked for a photo of her with a shirt on. >> they asked for a photo and she september this one. she said how about something with a little more cover up. >> it is a magazine that knows what people want to look at. regardless if there are women on panels they learned over time -- >> who have every right to be here, joanne. >> we are talking about, oh, she has the right to do this. honestly the demographics of the audience don't want to see that. they want to see women who are happy and look like what they understand. shape thought she would feel better with that covered up. >> the other thing is, by the

way, i think it is great she has good self-image and she is proud of what she accomplished. she should be. she will livelonger and is a lot healthier. you can feel all of that and recognize that maybe you shouldn't bewaring a bikini. >> i don't think this bikini is necessarily beautiful. >> this is not like a woman thing. >> if anyone takes that away, guys, put on a shirt. >> not everyone should be in a banana hammock. >> not every guy should wear a tank top at the gym. >> do you have a comment on the show? e-mail us. do you have a video of your animal doing something? go to fox news.com/red eye. coming up, jay-z rides an elevator.

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5:00 p.m. eastern. coming up, patti ann browne and joe devito. >> e block. last story. that's the last story. >> she went crazy on jay-z. upon leaving a met gala after party they caught her

attacking jay-z in an elevator. this video shows beyonce's sister entered the elevator with jay-z falling behind and she proceeds to yell in his face and hit him before a body bodyguard separates the two. beyonce just watches. and then they walk poker faced to their cars. the fight started after an argument over who is sexier. why can't it be both? what is your theory on this elevator surveillance footage? >> i will not voice a theory. but i will say my main take away is there is like a good four seconds between when she started attacking jay-z and the bodyguard realized when was happening. forget new in laws, get new help. >> it took awhile. when i first saw the footage i didn't think it was a

bodyguard. i thought it was one of their friends. if they are a bodyguard you should be ready. we all no i what she -- know what she is like. i didn't know her. she is a recording artist in her own right. are you familiar with her artistry. jay not familiar with her work. obviously smee -- she is not suck up to the money. >> she is not following protocol at all. i was joking. it was not an argument about neil cavuto. they don't think it was right the security camera footage was released. what is your theory? what do you think? >> i think we are going to find out something -- that's pretty bad what happened. it has to be bad. what sph? >> you are not supposed to hit people. >> let's assume worst. >> you once said it is not a party until somebody gets drunk and embarrasses themselves. >> i didn't say that that i

keep reading about this. beyonce and jay-z are our prince and whatever. when something happens with this family it happens to all of us. every man in america was hit by salonge and every woman in the america hit jay-z in that elevator. i hope they patch up their problems because i don't want to go through this anymore. why is no one blaming jay-z? he must have done something wrong. it is always the guy's fault. >> when you are wearing tails, you know, he was dressed nice. i think this actually makes us feel a lot better as a country because we are like they are just like us. they get drunk and yell at their family. and the camera catches them. >> that is right. they truly are our royalty. >> i want to say beyonce's

reaction would maybe a great commercial for xanax. >> special thank you to joanne, andy revee. andy levy. that does it for me, tom shillue. see you next time. should only host game shows? samantha, do you take kevin as your lawfully wedded husband... or would you rather have a new caaaaaar!!!! say hello to the season's hottest convertible... ohhh....and say goodbye to samantha. [ male announcer ] geico. 15 minu15% or more.

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