jenna: a relic police dog getting a new lease on life. bruno is in anaheim, california california(.ecl) police k-9 who nearly killed trying to apprehend the suspect. that is what is ahead. jon: and a good pension, we hope. see you back here in an hour. jenna: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." here today, sandra smith, jedediah and one lucky guy, tucker carlson officially outnumbered. welcome back. >> great to be here, thank you for having me. >> are you ready? >> totally ready. i spent a lot of time with women in the last few weeks. >> you are normally outnumbered with your daughters and wife.

you are very lucky guy. all right, the man whose job it is to look after our veterans in their time of need set to take the hot seat. veteran affairs chief may be fighting for his job when he appears before the senate veterans affairs committee tomorrow. amid the firestorm engulfing agency the heads. the va officials fo four years covered up long waiting time that va hospitals across america while racking in big bonuses. despite some 40 veterans actually died while they were awaiting treatment. attorney general eric called is resisting calls to launch the department of justice investigation. >> obviously these reports, if they are true, are unacceptable and the allegations are being taken very seriously by the administration. i don't have any announcement to the justice department is doing,

but i will note inspector general, independent inspector general at the va has this matter under review. >> it will do little to silence the critics. miller shared the committee saying he wants president obama to use the power of his office to step up and fix this. >> the president may not be able to go to every single va hospital, he has ultimate authority over the department of veteran affairs. i have asked him to look at appointing a bipartisan commission to look into this. what i am very concerned about now is that the flood gates are open, we will not have an office of inspector general who have the capability to do what needs to be done because it needs to be systemic and much more widespread than what we originally thought. jenna: they said there will be inspector general investigation,

there is no need for us to get involved, do you think it is serious enough? >> they launched an investigation into everything. they investigated them in staten island. the threshold is very low. 40 people died. i know they are not obama voters. but it is shocking. >> i think he should be ashamed of uttering the words. who wouldn't want to fight? you are the top attorney in the country, who wouldn't want to fight for the people who fought for us? i'm not going to disparage the jobs inspector general will or could do, it is not about that, it's about this is the highest attorney in the land. why wouldn't he want to apply the best skills to our best? >> what if eric holder is saying

maybe there is not any criminal activity, but let's wait and see, go after it after the ig report. >> particularly some focus has to be shed on the bonuses issu issued, some of these whistleblowers have pointed out possibly the incentives for these fraudulent waiting lists for these bonuses handed out to executives at the va doctors, the va for the 14-day period when they would see a patient. they said it would be months, some would say i was not seen for one, two, three months yet there are still being handed these bonuses. you just heard from congressman miller because thought that was incentive for the secret waiting list, but that was never even done as well. >> the justic justice departmens saying no such thing as a secret waiting list. they are denying it exists.

do you believe them? >> no, don't believe them. i don't think eric holder knows shame. this requires everything that we can possibly do. it is amazing to me the justice department doesn't think everyone regardless of politics will rally behind the veterans. you do something harmful to us. everyone of us regardless of political affiliation say eric holder, i don't care if somebody else is investigating, you get on investigated to have some accountability. >> he has been talking about this since october. here we are in may. >> as far as general eric shinseki goes, you have said and i have said we don't think he should be fired. but didn't congress move to localize these va hospitals? they have little to do with headquarters in washington, d.c., so they can act autonomously and monitor, so is it their fault? >> they are still under the

secretary who run the agency. i would give shinseki every benefit of every doubt because of his background and to be totally honest about it, it is long-standing. it predates me. this has been going on for many, many decades. the president got up and said i will fix this, and he didn't. i think he is responsible. >> from that to this, head of a potential change to the nation deportation policy, there are new concerns that america lives are already being put at risk. statistics from the obama administration showing 36,000 illegal immigrants were released from custody last year while awaiting possible deportation. among them, 116 convicted of homicide. 43 negligent manslaughter, 14 voluntary manslaughter. one lawmaker calling it the worst prison break in history saying it was sanctioned by the

president. of course one might assume there is huge political implications here for the president. >> you call them convex, we call them voters essentially. i think anything having to do with immigration his political from the white house perspective. they say they want to get immigration reform through, a lot of republicans are open to this. doing this ensures no republican cooperation. they don't want a bill, they want to strike fear int in the hearts of their potential voters by demagogue inning immigration, this is proof of that. >> they said the ministers and actions outrageous. they put the interest of terminal immigrants before the safety and others before the market people. >> totally. and now we believe that the president will prioritize immigration authority?

they were willing to talk about this for border security for security, for american citizens first and now you have this coming out? give me a break. this is a joke and dangerous for americans. >> how does this change the conversation as we approach the midterm election? >> this is an old story. the administration is known for punishing people who try to do things the right way. this fiel skilled engineer who d out the paperwork and the people who break the law, they treat them the best. what are the immigration bill year. yet when you had republicans at the table like senator john mccain, he could commit not one, sandra, not two, but three crimes like a didn't see that and tax evasion and still be allowed to stay in this country. that was part of a bipartisan bill he tried to get through congress. you could commit for crimes and still get your citizenship. they don't care if any of us in this coach would have committed one of those crimes.

that is why republicans have to back off in a big way. >> it is a collision of messages really did you have on the one hand, i'm glad you brought u this is an issue of national security when you let killers and rapists out on the street. this coming out of the white house that we will make egregious and violent crimes a priority of hours to knock out. it is hard to build your way if you are putting out that kind of message. it is interesting to see how they go forward. his eyes and democrats will have to deal with. april unemployment with a .3%. the lowest since september 2008 but now when you look at behind the number that tells a very different story. whethe account for the unemploy, those who work part-time and people not even looking for work anymore, giving up, the percentage source o to americans not working.

nearly 20 million americans. a new study shows unemployment doesn't just make you jobless, it can make you fat. and unhealthy. researchers are finding being out of work and leads to depression which means you are eating more junk food. i would have to think this is embarrassing for this white house. you have the first lady doing the let's move campaign. >> you are right, their agenda is at odds with one another. i have to say, all of us should be happy about one thing, for the first time in human history you have a country whose poor people is that. you have this amazing abundance. throughout for the last however many millennia people starve to death. it is so rich, so vibrant and at the cutting edge technological technologically. we shouldn't take that for

granted. >> cheaper foods tend to have the more artificial and fattening ingredients. >> district is speaking people just wanted enough calories, and we achieve that. >> fast food is cheap. mcdonald's sounds great, but the health food store across the street i need to take out a loan to go there to do my grocery shopping. you are at the computer, unemployed, stressed out, looking for work. you just sort of grab it anything you can, it is called comfort food for a reason. >> it is about not moving as well. you're not climbing the stairs in the subway. you are not walk a few blocks to work, the things that keep your weight down. well thought was interesting as in areas of high unemployment or were somebody has a job, they are gaining weight as well because they fear losing their job in this environment. >> i think there was obesity and a lot of these cities before

hand. but i can see the point. i don't think it is a direct correlation. but i can see people are not able to spend the money on healthier foods because it is expensive. when i was out of work i was in the gym and so stressed out. jenna: maryland had 37% obesity in their city, they have seen the most blue-collar jobs if you want to look at that. they just shed jobs in that city. one person said i am so depressed it makes you want to put a gun to your head. >> this is a cultural divide. go to a rich neighborhood, nobody smokes cigarettes, nobody is overweight. that is a problem, i think. >> except for sandra. scary. >> a major city set to impose

toughest curfew and teenagers in america. do the rules go too far? where are the parents? and going screen free at home for a week. sandra says she can't. old-fashioned conversations face-to-face with people he may not want to run into. one woman says the experiment almost destroyed her family. stay with us. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition inharge™.

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one instance got a lot of attention dozens of teenagers storming a 7-eleven in one of the nicer neighborhoods virtually clearing the shelves. this has me he did because i feel like this is not the city's job. this is parents job. why can't parents control where their kids are? why does the city had to say kids have to be off the streets? >> i don't know like parents can't do this. i was in baltimore this morning and i have to say whatever it takes. parents don't own the streets, they are publicly owned. we don't have your right to have your kids roaming free. baltimore is one of those. you are the governor of maryland, explained that city. i love all tomorrow, but it is in trouble. >> uris are basically saying extreme measures are necessary. >> does this feel like they're taking parental rain away from you? >> i am always hovering.

it is not even a subject in my household. but i would agree with tucker in this sense, the streets are public. monitoring the daytime seemed a little bit much. as i read deeper, you're going to monitor their movement in the daytime? maybe they feel the need for that if baltimore has a big problem with this, but at night definitely i can see it, at night thdaytime, the parents hao a better job. >> how they going to enforce it? checking ids constantly. are these i are the concern? >> the police commissioner feels like he can an enforce it. we will see of the actually an act that will. i believe in curfews? yes. i had at 8:00 p.m. curfew all the way until i graduated high school. that was set by my parents, not

the city in which i live. when the biggest problems here, tucker, this doesn't address there are some kids who don't have parents were watching out for them, they don't have a rain on where they are. unfortunately that is a situation. this is just masking the problem, it is not the solution because this will just drive them somewhere else. they will go do it in somebody's home, whatever it may be. >> the core problem is the families have collapsed. but moving people on to another place is often the best you can do. the people commit it in private, and still better than in private. >> we don't all want to sound like bill de blasio on the couch. there is a problem with crime, but the progressives are jumping on it as an opportunity to take a village of bureaucrats and it

is not just this: they try to transfer these duties away from parents the government for a long time. the big push fo for school lunc. we will do it all themselves and if this government cannot take care of the veterans and heroes, they certainly can't do the job taking care of our kids cost that is why as much as there is a problem with crime, we have to be worried about the control they are starting. >> problem with crime and problem with screen as well. an annual event where families vowed to spend seven days turning off all digital entertainment but one mother saying joint effort to bring her family closer together actually drove it apart. she says a time in front of the tv after dinner that the family be together and talk. but instead everybody went off to do their own thing. we have to accept the screens are part of our everyday life n the culture, the landscape,

let's just deal with it. you have four kids, they must be on the screen all the time. >> no addiction is ever easy to quit. do i think it is an addiction? have you watched these people on their stupid devices? it is a disaster. most people would rather lose a toe or run a marathon in shower slippers. >> there is scientific evidence you get a dopamine rush when you check your messages, your brain actually gets a rush. and so you can get addicted to this, to pull back from that i would imagine people in the household were probably nagging and doing all those things. >> i was at a restaurant with two parents at the table, the two children had their own i've had in front of them watching on movies separately with headphones on, your not talking to the parents, the parents had a lovely evening, it looks like.

>> i've seen it with my nephews and niece. the way to get them to behave is to plug-in i've had and you can all have a peaceful dinner. so do see how they take away the ipad in the kids are not conditioned to color like we used to have to do, the the kids started going crazy. if i can get a head rush right now, i would check it. >> it will make you feel good. >> there is something about shutting off that makes you feel very peaceful. >> i feel some people measure the quality of their vacation if they get far enough away that they cannot access the internet anymore. >> reading this story was stressing me out. thinking of my life having to turn the tv off or the computer off. my family would gather around the tv. my mom and dad found a way to make it something that brought us all together. i think that is the key.

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into a pipe-dream for many americans. a study by real estate site trulia, most buyers can not afford housing on the market in most metro areas. house prices are rising faster than wages and income. young adults are hurting housing recovery. they want their own homes, but want to buy due to lack of savings, less tan perfect credit and a mountain of student loan debt is keeping them off the market. jedediah, what is interesting to me, this correlates with something greater. this is about the american dream. forget about the house. you don't have a right to own a house. that is not really a right. >> i don't own a house or car and days i have a conversation with my parents, no big deal you will get there one day but i feel like there is some passage into adulthood to walk into your own home and this is mine and i picked out kitchen cabinets and living roop and i had enough

money in saving to do that. there is something empower. young people have student loans. they come out of school. they're struggling. they can't find jobs. unemployment rate among young people is super high. that is unfortunate. i wonder if it makes passage into adulthood a little delayed. they don't have the important step because this is mine and i have something to take care of and my responsibility. >> tucker, what are you telling your children about homeownership these days? >> hose are really cheap in places where there are no jobs. it is places where there is no unemployment where houses are really high. student loan debt, i went off to my children went off to college, think through, is it worth it to go to college? for some people it is. for many people, including me, probably not, probably not worth taking 100 grand in debt. and so i think it is time to rethink. the second the public started subsidizing student loans it, was a good thing in some ways but massive tradeoff. schools became more expensive adjusted for inflation.

>> talk to me about the numbers in all of this because we've seen a lot foreclosures coming off the market. affordable houses were coming off the market. that was the flip side. you had cheap houses. >> what scares me the fact that the federal government is talking about making homes more affordable that got us in trouble before the financial crisis set in. to be honest homes are affordable right now. there is really no excuse, if you've got a job. the way they measure affordability if you can put 20% down payment on a house and your monthly cost to own the home are 30% of the average median income in that area. so keeping that in mind, interest rates are still near record lows, okay? you still got home prices that are about 20% below the peak during the housing bubble. you know what? unemployment is coming down at 6.3%. you have to start to ask yourself, is that they can't buy a home or is the american dream changing and they don't want to own a home? it is still cheaper to own a

home than rent. >> absolutely. other thing, real quickly, andrea, people not being able to build the nest egg for the down payment because we've seen so much unemployment for some years. >> the one good thing about this, this is not a good story, the one thing you look at a positive the government tried to convince us it wasn't the american dream owning a home. it was the american right. that everybody, man, child, dog, cat, goldfish should own a home whether they can't or could pay their mortgage. now, i think the unfortunate thing is while you're seeing some people not get themselves upside down mortgages or houses they can't afford, you have people who can afford them but the credit has been too tight. and i think that was a knee-jerk response. there is a lot of people out there who qualify, who may have the money but the regulations are just, just too much and they're squeezing them. that is an issue. that is probably not a good thing for the housing market. >> also avoidance of responsibility too. i mean i can sort of pick up and go whenever i want. i can take vacation without a

headache. something to it that maybe there's a mine shift that sandra was sort of saying before. maybe i don't want that kind of responsibility. i want the freedom to pick up and move and bound to a location. >> government reallocates how they want to take taxes on what you can write off, owning a home isn't really what it used to be. >> that's true. this may be a case of a father not knowing best. it concerns jameis winston, the star college quarterback who was accused of rape and cited for shoplifting those pricey crab legs. well, his dad wants florida state to provide his son with a 24/7 minder, saying quote, he is a heisman trophy winner, so definitely not supposed to be by himself. sandra, do you really think that jameis winston is all alone by himself? i mean, this is a guy who won the heisman trophy, who is a celebrated athlete. he's a star. i believe the biggest on his campus. >> andrea, he is a student athlete, he is not a professional, okay?

also, is a heisman trophy winner but a man who needs to have responsibility for himself. and he needs to learn that before he is out there in the real world. listen, i went to school at lsu, sec school were the football players were revered. they walked into trouble at times. a lot of them based themselves but you have a responsibility in college to learn who you are and i don't agree that this guy should have somebody watching him. i think it is horrible for the father to even be asking for it. >> what do you think, harris? on one hand, my son gotten into trouble, it is your responsibility to keep him out of trouble but shouldn't that be wrong fundamentally? shouldn't james mistake care of himself especially after all the trouble he has gotten into so far. >> he should be taking care of himself. i give credit to father caring about it, but you pay for it, dad? if he needs bigger shoes would you make me buy them. >> how much is this guy making

for college. >> you think the school should take care of that? >> of course. men get into trouble, when they have opportunity. when they have the opportunity to get into trouble. who has opportunity a heisman trophy winner. i'm totally on the father's side. the college which is reaping all this money off guy and student athletes. >> they need mall minders. >> mall minders. and cadillacs. they need to pay these guys. >> make it a salary issue they will all need this, right? i. >> actually see tucker's point, if i'm the coach would i consider that idea. you know it? he probably does need a minder. armed minder. >> it will cost us more money and he is making us millions of dollars arguably. why doesn't mr. winston move closer to campus to be his son's own minder? >> how about not getting into trouble then? how about that. >> wait a minute it, would be all right? >> we'll get security for you kid, so you don't get into trouble. how about you grow up and just don't get into trouble? >> women have self-control.

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment but first to jon scott on what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." >> the va scandal take as new turn as influential lawmakers ask president obama to get personally involved. an unusual request of the commander-in-chief. russia hitting back hard after u.s. sanctions over ukraine. russia threatens to abandon the

space spies in retaliation. >> >> big brother on steroids and we're not talking about the nsa the mind blowing amount of information that private companies gather on you and what they're doing with it. that is coming up "happening now." >> jon scott, thank you so much. jon: thanks, sandra. >> dads out there, how are your stern and nuturing sides? new research finding that a dad's ability to deliver moral and emotional support to kids is more important than bringing home the bacon. check out the numbers, nearly six in 10 people, 58%, putting morals and values top of a list of things dads should provide, followed by emotional support and discipline, topping dad's earning power by a wide margin. truthfully this did not surprise me at all, guys, i'll tell you. my dad, i went to him, i would talk about bad boyfriends. i would talk about relationship issues. i would call him and say what is wrong with men today? harris, do you find this surprising or new? >> first of all, let me say i

like the bacon. bacon's good. but you know, when you read studies that show that children's personality are formed by age of seven, it is exciting to know that somebody who thinks anything it takes to put good stuff in the kid whether comes from the dad or mom, doesn't matter where it is coming from, as long as it is good stuff pumping into the child. >> people minimize the dad's role and mommy is the nurturing one and run to mommy if you feel sick and go to mommy if you take care of you and dads play the role and don't get credit for it. >> rare we do a problem in the united states that can't somehow be related to the absences of fathers and collapse of the family. i'm not evangelical, i'm not preaching but it is true. numbers improve it. we minimize dads in huge way. of course moral leadership and support, but i don't think we should minimize like paying for things and working hard and supporting your family in material way. that is your sacred duty as a father in my view and think we should be grateful for that.

>> andrea, do you think there are still traditional gender roles here? how have the lines crossed in a house that pretty much anything goes? not to say that dad brings home the bacon and mom's the nuturing one have these things changed. >> i don't know what the long-term effect the will be. more females acting as preyed winners than dads. i think there is huge value in fathers. society for a very long time, told fathers, we don't need you, right? "family guy," al bundy, every commercial you watch, at&t commercial, the dad's the i had idiot, right? i think it has effect on society. now people are saying, wait a minute. we need dads. also i think the mem nist movement -- feminist movement, women told men so long i don't need you to, so men go, i believe you. they started to check out. now women are saying i want the man in the household to help coparent and help me bring home the bacon. it is hard by myself. so i do think gender roles have

switch and i don't think society has caught up to have conversation about what it meant. >> sandra, as a mom do you bind this surprising about the information that came out? >> some of it. i was surprised they prioritized the requirements of the mother the same way and i thought that might be different based on the rise of the female breadwinner, the female breadwinner, 18% of american households now have a woman making more money than a man. that is up from 11% from 1960. so there has been this dramatic shift there. not anything to do with marid or unmarried couples but the mother is outside of the home more. it is interesting to me to see they're as dependent on the mother still as the father for that emotional support. >> definitely some food for thought for all the moms and dads at home. we are getting new information on a terrifying ordeal at a tv station after police say a man crashed a stolen truck into the building and barricaded himself inside. learning to walk the runway at modeling camp starting at age

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>> welcome back. i'm gravely outnumbered here on the show but i do have a story. forget archery, swimming and ice cream sandwich, girls as young as eight years old can go to camp to master the catwalk and calorie counts. it is expanding to preteens giving kids a chance to learn what it makes a chance to be a model. the four-day camp let's kids master world of runways and when it is over they may go home with modeling contract. does a cost of this include a lifetime therapy which is inevitable result. >> i watched the catwalk at 11 but my parents with me. >> did you really. >> yeah. i lived south of san francisco with this height and with this voice since i was 11. scary when you're that age, right? so my parents were always with me. and eventually we got out of it

because my mom was concerned about eating habits. she never saw other children finishing things. >> i bet. >> there were other issues. depend how involved you are in your child's life. if that is something they aspire to do, at the time, i love fashion, always have. i mean my bar byes were the left. >> you totally overturned my theory. you're grounded and normal. >> i don't know, i try. >> but would you say harris has to be the exception to the rule? this can not be good for kids? >> i don't want to shun the entire modeling industry, because there are successful and smart models out there today, but they're in the .0001% of those trying to start out being in the industry. my fear you start the kids out at 8 years old in modeling camp set them up for disappointment or soon in their teenage life. modeling has gone by the wayside. when you look at front of cover of magazines, tucker, when you're in the grocery store, celebrities are on cover much these magazines.

modeling jobs have left. salaries are down. >> they have been offshored like everything else. so, that is just kidding. jedediah, the relentless focus on appearance that concerns me for little girls. don't need to think more about that. >> i think calorie count something issue. i did modeling when i was a kid. >> oh, my gosh. >> your bust is never too small, never too big, always picking on you. girls in particular, that is a problem. i feel for kids that may be little and may want to try it. some it may boost self-esteem, walking down a catwalk. really depends how the people handle it and how parents talk to this about it. it is about parental guidance. people say same thing about "dance moms." they say it is too tough on kids. i grew up in performing arts house. she was tough on kids. they wanted to be dancers. they wanted to be stars. you have to train them young. >> you're blowing my mind. andrea, are you for this too.

>> you can be a harris faulkner or naomi cam before. i would be harris faulkner any day. >> amen. >> there are good stories that come out of this. i'm fine with the modeling camp and there are issues of eating disorder. to harris's point. i started doing dancing and gymnastics with plenty of young ages. eating disorders and watching waistline and not strutting catwalk and strutting stage. i learned at very early age, and my mom was involved watching what we're doing, it was girls whose moms were not as involved or living through their daughters putting pressure on them. as long as parents are around, i'm okay with dancing or gymnastics. it is about how you guide the child. >> i'm the weird child. i never went to modeling camp despite -- >> look how beautiful you are. you're blushing. >> yeah. thank you, harris. good news, if your name is joe or pam or any monosill lab big name. we'll explain why it may be

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♪ >> welcome back toout numbered. skoal gifts say the presence of a middle initial when folks read your name, makes them think you're more unwall and accomplished. go to the most complicated name on the couch right now, jedediah. we can't trust you, jedediah. >> my full name is a., jedediah, bila. my mom stuck an a. she wanted me to have an a. my dad's name is anthony james bila. she decided she was wrung young would give me a nickname. they call me aj. because the kids couldn't pronounce jedediah. just to add jedediah is biblical

but my mom got it from "barnaby jones." >> wow. >> do you have any credibility? >> i'm here with you fine people. so i think it is okay. >> how do you sign your name. >> i sign jedediah bealela. i leave the a off. >> will you reconsider? >> sometimes i go by aj because lot of people when i first got into television tried to convince me, use aj, it is easier and catchy. i thought, you know once you get jedediah you know it is me. >> once you go to jedediah you will never go back? >> secrets revealed about your middle initials. say you're more intellectual. what is your name tucker carlson. >> my name is not tucker carlson and waldo felt singer. they didn't trust it. so i came up with tucker carlson, two syllables. >> i know you're numb brother's name and not walter. >> s and m?

>> yes. >> but i don't, when i first got into journalism, pick a byline, name you write. make it simple. tucker carlson. we have same middle initial. mine is kimberly and they want ad boy, right? that's okay until you get older. you can imagine, hairless, hairy. what about you, sandra? >> wandering what we're going put -- because i don't think i ever responded with my middle name. kye, my mother's name. at home i'm sandra k. >> like mary k. almost. >> kind of sort of. they always use two names in the south. a lot of folks. and, yes, sandra k. smith. i think i have a lot of credibility because my name is easy to say. >> thanks a lot, guys. >> southern twang. >> mine is really hard. >> nice. >> wow. >> very good. >> that was tough. i love it. >> we both have the ks in the

mid. >> what you sign? >> akt. >> very nice. >> that's like a designer label. >> by in other name, tucker carlson, thank you. >> thank you. >> one lucky guy. that's it, ear out numbered. see you back here tomorrow, noneastern. "happening now" right now. confirmations hearings about to begin for the woman who could become the new face of obamacare. sylvia birdwell sits down before the senate finance committee as all signs indicate she will become the next healthnd human services secretary. also, two key players in the gop strategy to win back the senate and the challengers though face as brand new reaction to a new round of primaries. two wildfires raging right now. one on the outskirts of a major city. they worry whether conditions could shift and change