month. a left leading group is raising a billing flag for the party. that the five is next. it's 5:00 on the east coast, 2:00 p.m. on the west coast, the "the five" begins in one win. on the west coast, a horrible fire disaster in and near san diego. a number of homes have burned. at least four to the ground and the fires are still going. winds in and around southern california, san diego specifically said to be 10 to 20 miles an hour. the local temperatures degrees depending on where you are. 11,000 homes and businesses have been given notice evacuations are in order and expecting fires will be awful throughout the day. there's a home burning behind

here. we know at least four that have burned to the ground and they are very concerned about thousands more. the winds are out of the east today so that hot air coming, right now it's time for "the five." hello, everyone. i'm dana perino along with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckle, eric bolling, and greg gutfeld is back. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." hillary clinton is going to face a lot of tough questions if she decides to run for president. karl rove raised one. >> i still have some lingering effects from falling on my head, and having the blood clot, but you know the doctors tell me that that will all recede. >> rove wonders if they are health could be an issue for her

if she runs again in 2016. >> she had a serious health episode. we don't know what the doctor said what she has to be concerned about. but she's hidden a lot. >> democrats including former president clinton take issue with rove's remarks but hillary is not the first politician to face questions about health or age. look at this. >> you already are the oldest president in history. >> i think for him to toss out comments like that, i think an example of him losing his bearings. >> there are people who say you couldn't be president because you are so heavy, what do you say to them. >> that's ridiculous. >> i happen jeb bush is going to run. he's overweight, joe, and overweight people tend not to run for president. >> bob, is that why you've never run for president? >> oh, dana. >> otherwise i would have been

the president of the united states no question about it. nobody runs for president of the united states is not put through the grill as what their health is like. they are going to reproduce all their medical reports. i went through this with mondale and he was a perfectly healthy guy. so those questions are going to be answered. is this a shot across the bow to try to get her not to run? well the problem is she's already run. she knows what it's about. she's been there, done that, and i don't think anything like this is going to scare it. if she doesn't run it, maybe she does have a health problem. i don't think she does and i think we'll know. >> as was said yesterday, we have no reason to believe she's not totally healthy. karl rove can be the gift that always gives back to the democrats. president obama used to talk about him all the time in his campaign literature. karl bears some responsibility for his comments, right, but

it's not as if he went out there and he hadn't been saying it before. this is at a private event, someone picks it up, it ends up on page six and now we're leading "the five" with it. >> he make news and he's their favorite villain. they spent a lot of extra money in a sterling silver frame when they put his picture in it and they want to say what can we get out of karl today? he's tough for them to pin down. >> if the democrats are talking about karl rove, that means they are not having to talk about other things like policies or any sort of plans for the future. >> you may or maw not like what karl did, but karl didn't slip in doing what he did. he was very political in what he did. he brought up -- >> you think he's the evil genius. >> i love karl. >> he's the architect.

>> he planted a seed, and now the left and the right are both watering like crazy and guess what it's start to go sprout, you have to ask the question, is she capable, is she okay? what was that lens on that left eye glass after her head bump? i know we're going to run a sound bump. karl said something about three months. he said she spent three months in the hospital. then it was three days. however, bill clinton said something wild, he said six months. he took karl's ball and ran it even further. >> i do think it was political on karl's part and the question was it much too early. >> karl was at private event where he was giving a speech. >> he was ready for a occasion to say it. >> i don't think it's the first time he said it. maybe they need to cover him more closely.

>> howard finemen on msnbc. the whole republican strategy to make this so distasteful to hillary she's going to say i don't want to run, it's too dirty, too nasty, i don't think you would say that about any man that you are going to scare him out of the race because he is not tough enough and that was howard fineman on msnbc. >> first off, suggesting that a liberal has brain damage, how can you tell? i had to do that for you, bob, because i love you. i kid the libs. but you want to talk about this distaste and you want to talk about sexism, remember that hillary clinton called monica lewinsky loony tunes for

sleeping with her husband. monica is an expert on distaste, dis taste awful. >> now, you are worse than bob. >> i cannot defend karl rove on this. you don't make it easier for your opposition. republicans do not need an angle to make hillary look weaker. she has a track record but also the republicans need a candidate. they don't need an angle. they need a candidate by comparison that makes hillary or whoever runs look weak. people claim that they made senator mccain look old in order to beat him, but actually by nominating obama made john mccain who was a great candidate, a war hero, a coherent funny guy, make him look old and crank i didn't by juxtaposition. the republicans need to think about finding a candidate. >> do you have a suggestion?

>> find a candidate. doing something like this makes hillary clinton look sympathetic. >> is she fit? is she okay? this is the biggest economy on the globe, and also can we just talk about the hip poypocrisy fa little bit. remember when michele bachmann was running for president, she suffers from headaches. they throw these nuggets out there. they do this all the time. >> eric, isn't it a legitimate question about someone's health? >> i think what karl did was purposeful and brilliant. >> every presidential candidate for as long as i can remember is are you healthy enough to run? >> karl is brilliant. i think he gets a little too much credit for being strategic

on some of these things. >> this is a wonderful topic for the media because basically on the freeway to hick's -- hillary's failures, this is an off ramp on how petty the opposition is, when you can be focusing on benghazi. you don't need to talk about this. >> let me just say -- >> till later perhaps. >> jay carney who is now the press secretary who used to work for "time" magazine and was a bureau chief. he shot back at karl today. this was from february 4, 2008 on time magazine, when he wrote, carney wrote about mccain. he has suffered skin cancers over the years, not to mention brutal physical torture as a prisoner of war his age and health are of legitimate concern to voters. so to your point, bob, that it's legitimate. you brought up a good talking

point. one of things that those on left have been saying this is all part of the republican strategy to make her look weak, they try to throw things out there, but remember when harry reid suggested on the senate floor that mitt romney had never paid taxes and not paid his taxes? >> exactly my lack point. >> we're tracking. it's common political practice. karl is getting a lot of heat because maybe of the timing. maybe it's too soon. if not now, when? i think you wait. >> until the idea of health comes up. >> you are saying it matters. >> it matters. as a matter of fact, he might be right. if she decides not to run, karl rove could be right all along. it's just that if you have serious issues and you are look agent a mid term election, why look petty? >> you all are probably too young to remember this, there

was a guy named tom eagle ston, it was discovered that he had electric shock therapy and after that, everybody's health was in question. >> we are going to get out of there and get you to smith right after this. coming up on the five, jon stewa stewart. >> we're watching homes burn to the ground. live pictures coming to us for our station fox 5 in san diego. the air droppers and water droppers are up. moments ago we're watching three homes burned to the ground. we believe that's six strurkts now burning across the area. the smokenodos. reporters are scene.

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are not causing trouble and creating crimes. it's just not a good use of your resources. >> let's talking about this for a second. we looked it up and some of these criminals are just literally let go free, just go, go ahead. 200 murderers, 4u7b rapists, 300 kidnappers. >> murderers, rapists kidnappers. this is a serious concern. these people were let go. said bye-bye. go to the side, it's okay. the doors of justice no longer have locks on them. it is a concern. you are shaking your head but -- i don't think you want people like that running free. >> i've been told not to criticize our own show, that

edit of president obama was taken out of context. you really think somebody sat back and said let had -- 400 murderers. if they were convicted of murder, they should be in jail at some point. >> the department of justice should enforce the existing laws. >> what existing laws? if they murder somebody, they go to jail. >> that's not true. >> and let me tell you something, we asked this question, were they released freely. they were released under a variety of conditions. it doesn't say which to subject to chked of release. >> 75% of them were reeced because of court nords, number one. number two, a lot of them are being monitored and three there's no room for them. >> so release murderers, rapists and kidnappers. >> you really believe that, you are out of your mind. it's incredible to me we're

actually going with this story. >> i'm going with bob. when it comes to murderers, rapists and kidnappers, i think we can all find common ground. i don't think that was what president obama was talking about. one of problems the president has he doesn't define the populations well or the problem well, therefore when we try to do an immigration bill, it gets confusing. absolutely those people should be locked up. the other problem is the deportation one. which president obama actually has some good numbers on deportati deportation, so i think there's faults in the administration's approach to getting comprehensive immigration reform. those particular individuals are one of them. >> greg, should obama be held accountable for some of the things that goes on with these criminals, hardened criminals? >> i think it's our fault, eric,

using that kind of language, calling them criminal immigrants. we need a new phrase like law optional visitors, that way it's not so bad. i do have a solution for that. it's called the catapult, if home countries don't want these criminals back in six months, we got to let them go. that's why you have a catapult. you take the murderer, you put him in a catapult, you fire him over the fence and back over and you are stuck with this scumbag, enjoy. >> as much as you guys don't like president obama, do you think for a minute this guy would allow murderers to run around on the street? >> bob, i didn't make this up. >> it was requested by the house of representatives -- >> we're not making this up, though. 37,000 criminals, bob. >> these are ice statistics that have been turned over from that. >> next hot story, last weekend

eleanor cliff went off the rails and said ambassador stephens wasn't murdered at benghazi, that he died from smoke inhalation. >> i was taking issue with the sort of glib use of the word murderered, and i think, you know, dying of smoke inhalation in the safe room of a cia outpost has a slightly different feeling, and my point is that it was a very chaotic event, i was just trying to add a little bit of complexity, and i'm going to stick with what i said. >> we're all such simpletons because we called it murder because it's so complex when somebody dies from arson. she's an idiot. this is not news. she's been around for four

decades. she's the beneficiary of liberal welfare. i have no idea why she's there. her priorities over sensitivity, you imagine if you use that same language on victims of 9/11 or waco, would you say that? >> why double down on something like this? >> it could be delusional, but she pays no consequences, right. what greg is saying there's no consequences on the left for saying something that crazy, it makes people on the left not look as crazy as she is. >> as opposed to people on the right. >> correct. she's trying to get people more in the middle. >> is there any defending, bob? >> you can't. you're the prosecutor, if you go light somebody's house on fire and you know they are in there, and they die. >> it's called felony murder. if you commit a philanthropy and

during the commission of that felony, someone dies, it's felony murder and you are bye-bye. dirty harry reid is obsessed like bob with charles and david koch. my pal jon stewart took harry reid to task. >> sheldon, the owner of biggest casino company, this guys spent millions to fight on line gambling, tens of millions fighting organize the labor. he gave $90 million to republican candidates. >> sheldon, don't pick on him. >> i'm sorry, don't pick on him. >> he's not in this for money.

he's in it because he has certain ideological views. >> that's kienled of what we do every day on "the five." >> but see how inconsistent he is. what is he talking about? >> what he's talking about is a guy that is a big nevada figure who is a friend of his and who probably has gotten some favors from him and he's not about to -- >> he's a hip owe -- krit. >> what's the difference between steyer who is a democrat supporter and the koch brothers? >> how do i begin to count the ways? steyer did not underwrite virtually every right wing group

like the koch brothers did. >> when the history of this period is written, when we are long dead and gone, the chapter about the battle over the billionaires and who could get who in their corner, will not be a pretty one. >> that case that probably is not far down the road. billionaires have having an awful impact on our -- >> i think billionaires are awesome. >> i'm really pleased that finally jon stewart has provided us with some story content. usually we provide him with about 90% of his weekly intake, but the reason why -- we're missing the point here, the reason why jon stewart is going off on that is that adelson gave a hundred million to

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breaking news now. our local station in san diego, kswb, has been standing by in carlsbad. the fire has just raised up the hill and now they are scrambling the fire department has come in to try to get this entire place evacuated. this is the scene all along the 5 freeway from carlsbad, into san diego itself, at camp pendleton. this is a live look at our local station. this neighborhood they just told

us is about to go. so the fire department is kicking the news crews, the residents, everybody out there. the fire department seems to believe they are not going to be able to save this neighborhood or so many more that are going up in and around the carlsbad area. the evacuation totals are now at 15,000 for the region and we've been watching home after home burn. look at this fire-nado that we just watched. the winds are swirling to such a degree and the heat so intense, these have been showing up all over the place. this one at the top of the canyons. they create their own wind within the fire and as they top it out, these fire-naodos. home after home being burned to the ground. updates throughout the afternoon back to "the five."

because we're all racists, harvard school of government will be offering glasses in power and privilege to its new students. privilege is the new buzz word that describes people who get ahead because of their race or gender. it's a shorter way of saying evil white man and it's a tool for brainwashing your kids into thinking they are awful. you see the beauty of the word privilege is you don't have to have to act racist to be racist. it's already in your blood. it seems kind of racist, no? not if you are white. an absence of god, racism is now the original sin. simply by being born, you are biggoted, your parent by creating you, perpetrated this racist act. you weren't a baby, but a don sterling in diapers. so why these courses now? it's simple. to occupy the incompetent. to take a kid who spent four years schooled in resentment and

race warfare, what does he do now, teach resentment and race warfare? here's a taste from a white privilege conference. i wonder if racism is central to america? >> racism is central to america. white sprem yaes has been embedded in the united states of america from its founding. race is driving almost everything that's happening in the country. the longer you are in the tea party, the more racist you become. >> the privilege scam is self-perpetuating work release described as concern but driven by desperation for their careers need race hate to exist. their only recourse to drag you down into their muddy pit of whine and drizzle. do not snis -- dismiss it. no wonder our foes laugh at us. the entire movement must be

underwritten by china. >> bob, you were talking about this earlier on another tv program. >> yes. >> doesn't this idea make a mockery of an actual conversation about real racism when you say everybody is bad? >> yeah, i do. i think the idea that you are planting a seed here that says if you are white, you are automatically -- you've got racist tendencies, but i will say this there are a lot of kids who are in college today or in graduate school today who never experienced the civil rights movement, never experienced the idea of segregation. many of them had not had exposure to what happens to minori minorities. >> it seems to me, eric, this isn't history. this is indoctrination. >> the scary part if you read the literature today, thousands and thousands of teachers and students attended this.

it's not like 20 people in the backroom of harvard having a little meeting. it's scary. i can't imagine kids actually listening to this and having teachers teach it to them. what's the message? to continue the race divide in america? doesn't it actually perpetrate racism by doing what they are doing? they are saying america is -- has racist background? yes, we know there's racism but things are getting better. >> i think what eric's point is, kimberly, what if you suddenly agreed with them? you are right. what do you want? what do you want us to do? that's -- they want something -- they want a form of punishment. >> that's the problem. you are being punished for a crime that you didn't even commit or think of, and shouldn't be held responsible for, you are not the perpetrator, i'm not quite sure why you have to lead with the assumption that someone is guilty or guilty of some kind of malfeasance or wrongdoing, where's the evidence of the

proof of that? i don't feel that is moving forward as a country when you sit there and cast that blame and zpergses zsh dispersions to people that they are bad and have bad thoughts, just for breathing in the morning. >> i can't imagine this helping you in any way shape or form when you get out into the real world, you feel like a victim or victimizers. >> in the 1970s in denver, they did bussing to integrate schools, i thought the whole right of the civil rights movement so we could get beyond this, and i remember president obama talking about his daughters and how that whole generation is much more accepting and nondiscriminatory than anybody in the past. what they are teaching here, can you imagine a university in america teaching that all germans today are responsible for what the nazis did in world war ii, they will never say this, but for some reason this is stul accepted because eric how many thousands of people actually went and at a midwest university they banned the film,

the honor diaries because they didn't want to offend muslims. >> i would bet you if you ask most high school college students, if there's still racism in america, a large why do you apologize for ay no? progress? i don't understand. >> there's always something bad in the world that exists. as a reduction in crime across the country, there are still murders. >> did germans, maybe there's something to that, i don't know. >> oh, you are terrible. all right, ahead, justin bieber is dope. is he a thief as well? tes been accused of attempted robbery at a miniature golf course. kimberly has the latest. new car!

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leave it to bieber. justin bieber can't seem to stay out of trouble. he was accused of attempted robbery at a batting cage. a woman claimed he took her phone and screamed at her. the employee who says she wpsed the incident says the woman instigated it. >> it has absolutely no relevance to anything, but he hears it. from beefis to butt head. >> who wants this? >> can i just make a point,

right now, justin bieber is a carton of eggs. he has a shelf life and it's very important to him to eat every single egg in that before we throw him in the trash because in two years, he will be standing in line to sell his blood. >> i had both of their pictures up -- >> rick springfield. >> one daw you just decide to move on. >> it's weird. it's like she had them all over her wall. i think she met a boy. i'm over him. >> okay, bolling, what can you do for this? >> the only thing i can add, i can't figure out how justin beeper -- bieber can make money?

>> one direction and -- five biebers there for the price of one and you got miley cyrus who looks suspicious like bieber. they have never been seen at the same place at the same time, check me on that, but this is the situation that might be walked back a little bit by a woman who says he took her phone. >> i kept her -- >> i kept my farrah fawcett poster. the think about bieber, i couldn't agree with greg more, you look at the shelf life. michael jackson was able to go from a child star up to and until the time he died, and then there are very few examples like that that i can think of who made it the whole way and this kid, not only is he not going to make it the whole way, i don't think he's talented enough as he

is right now. >> you wonder how long he's going to be in this country, right? >> he has great abs. >> by the way, that's a little gross -- >> that's the point. >> you think josh made that hair cut for him. >> he has a second career. >> we're done with this. coming up, is the nfl about to relax its rules about its players who want to smoke pot? should it? next on "the five." huh, 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. everybody knows that.

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welcome to the fastest one minute in television. nfl may be making game-changing change. under the threshold for a positive pot test would be increased. while the punishment would be decreased. >> i hate it, i believe in allowing athletes to enhance their performance because we can't stop it, stop trying to stop it, you can't police it. i also believe in legalization -- or legalization of pot. every time i say something like that, i get beat up. i thought magic johnson was a classy guy or i knew about jay z and beyonce.

you guys are ticked off at me about everything. >> if it's weed that they used, what they are going to, hey, man, throw me the ball here. >> is that a good idea? >> what. >> i don't know, i don't think feel like slowing down the pace of football. >> if you smoke a lot of weed -- >> stop testing for everything is my point. if -- what about steroids, i think it's a little suspect. >> let's good to the resident expert on weed from her home state, dana perino. what do you think? >> all i got to say is smoke em if you got em. >> you are a little drug addict, aren't you? >> you have a family entrepreneur. go to jamie perino's shop in denver, 16th street mall.

>> i honestly don't know how -- given the strength of these drugs, how throoets can athletes can do this and play, i don't know when they do it, if you are going to raise the thc threshold, you got to raise the threshold for dumb things you say as well because they go hand in hand, when you are high you say stupid things and right now the policing of language, of fining people of saying stupid things on twitter, that's creeping me out more than this. right now, pot is basically the new alcohol, and you can't punish people for wanting to escape life once in a while. >> what if these teams go and play in denver or seattle? it's legal. i assume people are going to be in the stands will be smoking dope. >> it's going to be maturity of this trend. it will be just like another thing. it will be ten years, but it will be like martinis. >> could you imagine the amount

of food they would have to feed the players if they were all stoned? one more thing is up next.

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it's time now for one more thing. greg, since you are about, you get to go first. >> all right. you know, i give a lot of grief

to cats and i feel bad about that after i've seen this amazing video. see this little kid. he's enjoying himself. all of a sudden there's a dog and he says i'm going to crack that egg. goes over there, starts attacking the kid, you know what happens, the cat comes in, the cat comes in and chases the dog away. i've never seen anything like it in my life. this is a super cat. this is an amazing god like being. >> whose cat was that? >> it was the kid's cat. now you know. i like that they had cameras everywhere for that. they had four angles. >> shoot that dog. was the boy okay? >> yeah. the boy had some bites, abrasions. >> let me tell you something, then that dog is going to have to get an animal control hearing and they are going to have a

talk about him. i get to go next. i have ate great one more thing. if you cannot find a job after you graduate college, don't fret, don't sit there. there are so many opportunities. get a loan from your mom and dad and pick any of the states on any of map, and volunteer for a campaign. i don't care if you are republican, democrat, bicurious. >> that's what bicurious means. >> i think people who talk about politicians it could be helpful to work on a campaign too. >> if he's curious, he will buy it. >> it's a weird show. >> get your grandparents to help pay for your cost of living.

>> i want to talk about a case that was very significant that we covered in the news. remember amanda berry and michelle knight and gina dejesus. you remember the hero from cleveland. that man charles ramsey has a new book out called dead give away. he's the one that freed amanda berry which led to the release of michelle and gina and in his book he talks about what happened on that afternoon and he also -- i don't know if it's a little t.i.d. bit, but he was given 2,000 free hamburgers and he give them to the homeless. you might want to check out his book. it's supposed to be pretty good. >> one of my favorite one more things in a long time. check out martin molar from cbs. he says president obama is now boarding his 1,000th flight on air force one. i did a little math on that.

president obama average flight, 2,000 hours, $228,000 per hour and that's from the military. they tell us that's how much it costs to operate air force one. and guess what that comes out to taxpayer dollars, $456,576,000 taxpayer dollars. >> half a billion dollars. gee. >> he has taken more flights than anybody has at this point. >> that's fine. a lot of golf. >> bob, your turn. >> when i was a much young are man and most of these people weren't born, there was a killer, a serial killer, who was my hoby by the way. >> studying. >> his name was the zodiac killer. he was never caught. he was responsible for killing at at least 60 people, claimed to have -- six people, claimed

to have kirled 37, his son claims he was the son of zodiac killer. that was a sketch of -- are we almost out of time. >> special report is next. dvr it. this is the fox news alert. i'm bret baier in washington. startling new information tonight about the irs targeting of conservative groups. who did it and who was behind it. the government watchdog group judicial watch is out with another batch of documents, new emails, and what's inside directly challenges the administration's narrative on the irs case. live on capitol hill with the story. >> reporter: the obama administration has tried to blame the irs targeting of conservative groups on a few rogue agents in cincinnati, but this latest information uncovered by judicial watch ties the behavior directly to