people will appear in holograms. who would have known it would actually happen. >> they did frank sinatra at the radio city music hall that way. >> thanks for being here, eric. "happening now" coming up next. we'll see you tomorrow. have a great day everybody. jon: explosive new charges in the growing veterans affairs scandal with reports that president obama and his transition team were warned about wait time problems back in 2008. good morning to you, i'm jon scott. >> i'm patti ann browne in today for jenna lee. there were claims of neglect first reported in arizona, jon. jon: allegations that dozens of veterans died waiting for medical treatment and the delays were covered up. now the scandal stretches across the country with new mexico just the latest state facing accusations of mismanagement at its va facilities. joining us now, bret baier, the anchor of "special report."

bret, how did all of this come to light? >> well, jon, this was the result of a foia request by "the washington times," the specific story you're talking about in regards to when the obama transition team was briefed about the problems at the va. the other scandals that have, the allegations have come up for at least 11 states now. and investigations are ongoing. so this is snowballing as you have lawmakers on both sides of the aisle calling for more in depth investigations and bringing in the fbi. jon: there is a former member of the va staff, high level staffer, who had this to say to congress a few weeks ago when some of these allegations first came up. i want to play you for this now. >> to date, we found no evidence of a secret list, and we have found no patient who is have died because they have been on a wait list. >> that was dr. robert petzel, undersecretary for veterans affairs. he said at the time we haven't

found any evidence of secret lists. we haven't found any evidence that people died waiting for care. well, now as of friday afternoon, he is officially out, actually ahead of his resignation he got pushed out of the veterans department. is he going to be sort of the sacroficial lamb for obama administration here? >> he was already scheduled to retire. jon: right. >> in fact the administration announced a replacement for him. may 1st, they were looking to see who would fill his spot. the fact that the resignation was announced friday afternoon, late in the afternoon, was, republicans on capitol hill doesn't really mean a ton as far as a scalp if you will in this growing investigation. i do think that there are big items here that are going to lead to more pieces of this investigation. the "dayton daily news" over the weekend had another story based on a foia request that said some

167 veterans deaths have been attributed to what they call, quote, a delay in treatment, and that the veterans affairs agency has paid out some $37 million in settlements. this is important to point out this goes before the obama administration. this is a problem that goes back before the bush administration but when you get to 2009, this "washington times" story today suggests that the obama-biden transition team was given a pretty detailed brief about the concerns about these waiting times and integrity of the system overall. what happened from then until now i think is the focus of some of these investigations up on the hill. jon: and this was the administration that, you know, was swept into office promising that government could be lean and mean and organized and efficient. that you could use, harness the tools of the age of computer and so forth to really make government effective. that was one of the promises

that the president obama offered or candidate obama offered when he was running for president. >> yeah. i mean to be fair, understand that the va system is massive and it is only increased as veterans come back from the wars in iraq and afghanistan. the numbers are staggering. i mean 85 million visits to the va every year. and, it is important to point out there are great doctors and nurses in the system but the bureaucracy it seems with these allegations, it increasingly has been a big problem to the point where there may have been delays and these secret lists at different facilities. that is where this investigation is heading. jon: the va is really sort of government-run health care in its purest form. i mean, if the government has trouble caring for that segment of the population what does it say about these attempts to handle the insurance claims and everything else under the larger program of obamacare? >> well obamacare supporters

would say it is a different story. the critics up on capitol hill would say this is exactly what you're talking about here, is that if as long as it expands, it's annalgy of what's to come. this va investigation is being handled basically in and of itself and i think you're going to see more of these whistle-blowers coming out as you've seen over last few days. just over the past few days, albuquerque, new mexico, added to the list, a doctor there saying documents are being destroyed since the phoenix allegation first surfaced. jon: yeah. >> expect the president to say more than his white house chief of staff this weekend, that he was madder than hell. jon: it is an issue not going away. bret baier in washington to keep an eye on it. bret, thank you. >> sure. >> just in the justice department announcing just a short while ago cyber espionage charges against chinese military brass.

it's the first time criminal charges are being filed against known state actors for hacking. five people indicted. the charges allege they conspired to hack into u.s. companies in nuclear power, metals and solar products industries. the men stand accused of gaining unauthorized access to computers and stealing trade secrets and other sensitive information that could help chinese companies. jon: also china, no stranger to hacking allegations. according to one report, nearly half of all internet attacks came from china last year. with that country still far and away the chief source of cyber attacks around the world. here are some recent instances n february 2013, a suspected attack from china penetrated dozens of computer servers and work stations at department of energy headquarters in d.c. but it is not just government agencies that were hit. the media also a big target with the washington post, "the wall street journal" and "new york times," all coming under attack last year.

>> new developments in the crisis in ukraine. rush shurn president vladmir putin says he has ordered a complete withdrawal of his troops stationed near the border with eastern ukraine but nato and other outside observers say they're not buying it. greg palkot right now is streaming live from donetsk, ukraine, with more for us. hi, greg. >> reporter: patti ann, people have heard this before. so the folks here are a bit skeptical but analysts do say if those 40,000 or so russian troops are being pulled back from the border, which is what the spokesman for vladmir putin said today, it could mean that this is an effort by russia to try and deescalate the crisis. we found little deescalation on the ground though. a small village near a hotbed militant town was seen of a clash between ukrainian military and pro-russian separatists. a gas pipeline was hit and blew up. there was fighting over the weekened in another town nearby.

we were there today. take a look at what we saw. we have been speaking to, this town is independent territory. ukraine and its troops surrounding this place, well, they are foreign. and as for presidential elections planned for ukraine this coming sunday, according to them, they are not happening here. those crucial elections will be the focus of attention for both side throughout this week. the militants are claiming they will prevent voting throughout eastern ukraine. they have already firebomb bed and election offices and kidnapped officials. as for the ukrainian government, they say the vote will go ahead here. it seems they're stepping up security efforts to try and make that happen. by the way putin has nominally come out in favor of the vote. analysts here are saying basically he wants somebody in kiev that he can do business with as he tries to shape the reality here.

patti ann. >> greg palkot live in ukraine. thank you. jon: the nigerian army which is trying to find those nearly 300 kidnapped schoolgirls may be ill-equipped to take on the terror group boko haram. that according to an annus my nearian soldier that -- nigerian soldier told our sister network sky news. he said they are outgunned and many soldiers are sent to the field without ammunition and they wait week or months to get bade. boko haram is growing in strength. western analysts believe the group is well funded, well-armed and highly trained. 206 schoolgirls are missing. boko haram is threatening to sell them into slavery or marry them off. experts from u.s. and britain and france are all on the ground to help try to find them. >> are two first big must have to bring down the entire u.s. financial system? that is a question being considered today with the financial meltdown of 2008 still

fresh in many minds. peter barnes is with fox business network. he is live from washington with details. hi, peter. >> hey, patti anne. financial regulators are considering stretching tougher new oversight on big banks to big investment management and mutual fund companies, possibly two companies in particular. regulators have been beefing up the rules for many banks and financial first to make sure that taxpayers don't ever have to bail them out again in another financial crisis. this new group of companies in the cross-hairs managed trillions of dollars in mutual fund and other investments for many 401 k accounts, iras and personal investment accounts. top five are blackrock, van barred, state street -- a vanguard, state street, fidelity and pimco. regulators are concerned that two of them. blackrock and fidelity are so connected with the financial system they may need to be regulated more as systematically

important financial institutions or sifis as part of a review by regulators in as council called the fsoc. the treasury department is holding a public conference on asset managers and their activities. >> the threshold question is, are there risks here that need more oversight? and if there are, what are the appropriate remedies and the fsoc has a whole menu of things it can do but no decisions have been made yet about whether there are risks that need broader oversight and what the steps will be. >> reporter: now the industry is fighting new regulation. it says asset managers and mutual fund companies are not banks and they did not cause the financial crisis. the investment company institute says, quote, a fund designated as a sifi will face significant additional regulatory costs, costs that will be, that will fall on shareholders. patti ann? >> peter barnes, fox business network live in washington. thanks. >> reporter: you bet. jon: there are key primary races

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jon: time for a quick check right now on some of the headlines. the case against an fbi agent arrested in pakistan reportedly has been dismissed. agent joel cox was arrested on may 5th after ammunition was found in his luggage while boarding a plane. a pakistani government agency confirms agent cox was authorized to carry the ammo. another big shake-up in the television business. at&t agreeing to buy satellite tv provider directv for roughly 48 1/2 billion dollars. the deal expected to face tough scrutiny in washington. a new policy creating controversy in florida. students at manatee high school in bradenton, must pay $20 to

participate in their own graduation ceremony. now the school is charging as much as $200 for what they call premium seating for parents. >> $200 is a lot of money for preferred seating, you know? is my child more important than yours? what is the real deal? >> i think it is because they're trying to make back money supposedly was lost somewhere that they can't find. >> you're skeptical? >> yes of the absolutely. jon: that seems ridiculous. i think that is public high school. patti ann: yes. jon: it 200 bucks to get good seats? what happened to get your, butt in the seat early? patti ann: first-come-first-serve. i like it. that is interesting the woman was talking about some kind of a missing money. might be more to that story, who knows. anyway, a frightening development in the mers outbreak. centers for disease control identifying the first american to test above for the virus by contagion.

meaning he caught it from a another patient here in the u.s. john roberts live in atlanta. >> reporter: good morning, patti ann. the centers for disease control trying to get handle on full implication what is appears to be the first transmission of in the united states of the corona virus that causes middle east respiratory syndrome. it happened between an indiana doctor, who was the first person to import mers from saudi arabia last month and a business associate. the two had a couple of business meetings, close by still fairly casual contact. they talked with each other, they shook hands. the very next day the indiana doctor became so severely ill he had to be admitted to the hospital. so far the illinois man who apparently transmitted that virus to is doing okay. dr. david swerdlow is with the cdc. >> at this time he is reported to have had mild cold-like symptoms but he did not seek or require medical care since exposure to the indiana mers patient. he is currently reported to be feeling well.

>> reporter: is still a lot that centers for disease control doesn't know a lot about all this. whether the man from illinois who had the virus passed from him might be contagious though only showed mild symptoms. the centers for disease control asked him for the time-being to stay away from other people. the cdc is encouraging hospitals across the country to be vigilant about anybody who comes into the emergency room with flu-like symptoms after the dr. p. phillips hospital southwest of orlando left a 44-year-old man who imported the second case of mers from saudi arabia in a crowded emergency room waiting room for four hours last week. the centers for disease control and hospital had to track down everyone in the emergency room to see if they had systems. the dr. p. phillips hospital since strucked e.r. staff to ask anyone coming in with flu-like symptoms or bad cold if they have been to saudi arabia. the 44-year-old man is doing all right. he was released from the hospital yesterday. the man from indiana was

released last week. keep in mind, this disease causes severe illness from people who fall ill. 30 to 50% of them die. be very vigilant about this. >> very scary. john roberts live in atlanta, thanks. >> reporter: thanks. jon: every day, thousands of planes are in our skies. tracking them is around-the-clock international effort. a rare behind-the-scenes look at how the government keeps our skies safe. also, new developments in a very cold case. police searching for new clues that could help them find a teenager who disappeared 25 years ago. >> the police department is working for amy. we really, really want to bring amy home and, there is not an officer in our police department that is not aware of amy and we really think it's important and it's our mission to make sure she's brought home.

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built for business. patti ann: police searching for a teenager who disappeared nearly 25 years ago are looking for clues in the home where she was raised. 13-year-old amy ponyac was last seen in august of 1989. her parents say she was abducted from a gas station just a few miles from their home. police are not elaborating on what they are currently looking for inside of that home and they have not identified any suspects. >> every day millions of americans climb into one of those aluminum tubes and go flying and there are eyes in the sky tracking every plane in the area airport of a national defense program, called, operation noble eagle. it scans our airspace for anything that seems out of the ordinary. this as the search for malaysia airlines flight 370 continues. malaysia's defense minister addressed the failure to scramble jets when that plane first went off course.

laura engle, live in the new york newsroom with details. >> reporter: hi, jon. keeping track of every plane in the sky over north america is an intense and daunting task. operation noble eagle as you mentioned just launched days after the attacks on 9/11 and is coordinated by the north american aerospace defense command or norad from its home base in colorado. centers to its six centers across north america. all planes are monitored and displayed as green dots called tracks on a massive map. as the sky are scanned anything out of place, erratic or problematic. >> this is where the detection happens this is where the identification happens. this is where the tactical action happens. it makes the critical cog in making things at the, once the decision has been made to react, this is where it all happens. this is the action point if you will. >> reporter: each location including the eastern air defense sector utilize as classified layer civil of communication, keeping in contact with partners at the federal aviation administration

and department of homeland security. if a plane vanishes off the radar like we saw with malaysia flight 370 a universal action plan would go into effect immediately. there are potential violation of restricted airspace than the public ever hears about. while we were on the operations floor in rome, new york, our camera crew was escorted out because of a possible emergency. a plane had not made proper contact. all was well but hundreds of these situations happen every day. >> if we need to visually identify that aircraft we will launch aircraft to do that. our fighters will be launched to go identify that airplane. >> reporter: the airmen say the 24/7 mission is critical to insure nothing is missed. jon? >> laura engle in your newsroom. thank you. >> reporter: thanks. patti ann: gearing up for a big day in the midterm election season, six key states holding primaries tomorrow. campaign carl cameron on ones to be watching closely. plus, she hasn't even said

she is running for president in 2016, but hillary clinton's candidacy was a hot topic on the sunday talk shows. we'll talk about some issues some republicans are raising. >> she was secretary of state at the time that it happened. she was one of the first in washington to know about it. i think she clearly bears responsibility for whatever the state department did or didn't do with respect to that crisis.

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>> just coming out with a book called "hard choices" or something like that. she's made a series of bad choices and this writer you just quoted, talk about sweeping things under the rug, benghazi shouldn't be swept under the roof. >> she's in the prime of her political life. she's got the energy, she's articulate, she's got the background, she's got the smarts, she has all of the elements of a good leader. jon: hillary clinton, a very hot topic on the sunday news shows, her name mentioned 98 times sunday morning. the possible presidential candidate in 2016 faces questions, of course, about her health, about what happened in benghazi, even about the monica lewinsky interview recently run in vanity fair magazine. now joining us is jim pinkering ton for the american conservative magazine and

"hannity & colmehome colmes. is she one of the liberals who you think should save america? why so much interest just on the sunday shows this week? >> karl rove is now programming sunday morning television. that's what's happening. republicans are really directing who is to be booked on the media to talk about this because of what karl rove said. jon: what? >> it's all because of what karl rove said when he said she had brain damage and he doubles down on it and as if this is a legitimate topic. his health is but he's not the best messenger and the timing is ridiculous because she hasn't even announced yet but the effort here is to really get her intimidated away from a 2016 run. that's what it's all about. jon: i didn't know the republicans were powerful enough to program the sunday morning chat shows. >> that's what's going on. >> casual glance at news busters who tell you the opposite, more

like the d.n.c. is programming the sunday shows but look. i think it's pretty clear that the mainstream media would love to make the 2016 election a referendum between hillary clinton and karl rove. no offense to karl rove. i'm a big fan of. hillary would win the election and the liberals know it. they want it hillary versus rove. unfortunately for them, rove will not be on the ballot in 2016 and they're going to have to run against a republican candidate but they have to turn this into you hit a girl, preemptive strike on the republicans as a whole, the entire party, and so they're going to say, look. karl rove and the republicans are plotting against poor hillary. >> rove wouldn't have to be the person they're fighting against if they had a legitimate candidate. if they had someone who they thought could beat hillary clinton, they wouldn't do this. >> republicans have to nominate somebody. >> so do the democrats.

>> on cnn this morning, a big liberal said that i think age and physical conditions are legitimate issues. that remind me of, you know, the 1980 campaign which i worked on for ronald reagan and every day, the question how old he was came up. guess what? ronald reagan in 1980 was the same age hillary clinton in 2016. >> it is a legitimate issue. no one is denying that. the question is how it was brought up, who brought it up and the language he used to use it. >> rove didn't do it right to your satisfaction. >> i don't think he did it right to republican satisfaction. they're embarrassed by it. jon: you say that republicans cannot win if hillary is in the picture? >> that's not quite what i said. if i didn't say it right, let me clarify. i don't think republicans feel they have as good of a chance with hillary clinton in the picture. they're trying to get her out of the picture. their best chance to win is to get her out. >> on cnn this morning, they're

worried hillary is making the same inevitability argument she made in 2008 which she lost. a hard core liberal democrat, governor of massachusetts is saying that he doesn't think hillary is inevitable at all. >> he might be right. there's a lot of time between now and a lot can happen. there's so much space between now and a potential presidential race that the timing is really what it's all about here. this isn't about anything other than trying to poison the well of hillary clinton and get her out of the race in the first place. >> the republicans are afraid of her. >> they are. jon: one of the things that republicans are saying they have is a strong bench. if competition makes the ultimate eventual candidate stronger, you have hillary clinton on the democratic side and then all of the other potential democratic candidates seem to be ranked well below her as though she's kind of taking all of the oxygen out of the

race. >> they've taken the oxygen out. karl rove started this conversation. he did it kl cl -- calculatedly. use the media air time talking about that bench and promoting that bench but that's not what they're doing. >> it's the mainstream media that are picking up the hillary story. they want to use it to do a preemptive strike on the republicans. they're saying, the real battle is not mike huckabee, rand paul or scott walker in 2016. the real battle is karl rove. you have to make the election hillary versus him. they're trying to cover for hillary. >> it's not just the mainstream media. this is not just confined to the mainstream media. >> the mainstream media driving it on the sunday shows. just yesterday, for example. jon: the governor of massachusetts who was talking, as jim said earlier today, said he's afraid she has peaked too early. i mean, that happened the last time around, didn't it? >> sure. jon: and he's a friend of the

obamas but hardly a conservative republican sympathizer. >> i'm not sure she has peaked. it's just that the media is driving the narrative about hillary clinton. bill crystal this past week put down what karl rove did and said it was not a very good idea for the republicans to have done this. this is -- >> the republicans didn't do it. one guy did it. rove did it. there's a big republican party out there anxious to talk about obamacare and taxes and the slow economy and the media are obsessed with trying to turn this into the karl rove show. that's the media. not rove. >> they put on the republicans when they have that air time, start talking about that stuff rather than hillary clinton. use the time you're on to talk about the economy. >> talk about it. who is doing it? do it. get on. >> they're on the media. >> they're being booked but that's not what they're talking about. when you have that air time, suck it up. talk about the stuff you think

is important. jon: i want you guys -- >> i guarantee if you went back to the transcript, they did talk about that. the question kept coming about karl rove. >> we're talking about it. jon: get me a list of things you want me to talk about, right? >> what's your email address again? jon: i've got it. thank you both. >> thank you. patti ann: right now back to the 2014 political season, we're getting ready for a key day. six states hold primaries tomorrow including arkansas, georgia, kentucky and oregon. these are all states that could change the balance of power in the senate next year. chief political correspondent is live with this story. set the stage for us. >> it's going to be the biggest day of primaries we've had thus far. 2014 is beginning to catch a stride. we'll be watching the g.o.p. primary in georgia. they're republican senator chambliss retiring and it's a multi field of republicans.

if none get to 50%, this could be a runoff. it will be against the daughter of former senator sam nunn and had no primary opposition for this. we'll look at kentucky and senate republican leader mitch mc connell, the republican leader, is heavily favored against matt bevin. he got side tracked recently and has had a hard time in polls. democrats cleared the primary for the daughter of the former state democratic party chairman who is a buddy of bill clinton's. tomorrow's primary will mark 24 weeks until the election. those are the big ones we're watching and also worth noting that pryor is in arkansas and uncontested. patti ann: some governors and house races? what can you tell us about those? >> there's a democratic primary for governor that's a big deal. this has been a real brawl.

businessman tom wolf ran ads early on, got him a lot of attention. polls suggest he has a big lead over several rivals and a number are complaining he's spent so much money that he's buying the primary nomination. democrats are targeting republican incumbent tom corbin. they're going after him. for house races, one to watch tomorrow is idaho's secretary congressional district. mike rogers, incumbent republican is facing a tea party backed candidate named brian smith. not one in either the house or the senate have been defeated in any of these primaries. it could happen tomorrow but most of the incumbents look fairly safe as well. patti ann: thanks. jon: we are about 19 minutes from the top of the hour. let's check out what's ahead on "outnumbered." what's coming up? >> good to see you. former "new york times" executive editor jill ab ram son is speaking publicly since she got fired. paper is now on the defensive if you haven't heard, saying her

dismissal had nothing to do with pay or gender. >> more celebrities boycotting two iconic hollywood hotels after their owner instituted the law in his country. is that another example of hollywood hypocrisy? >> can't wait for that. is 13 old enough to choose a career? i'm sure you have some thoughts. one school system says you bet. >> all that and hashtag one lucky guy. "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. jon: looking forward to it. see you then. we are learning more about the kind of jobs making up our economic recovery. many not traditional full time positions. what that means for the health of our economy. also the happiest place on earth is definitely not the cheapest. how much it will soon cost you if you want to go through the gates into the magic kingdom.

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and new concerns about e-cigarettes, the dangers they're linked to now. we'll go in-depth. jon: getting happy is going to cost you more. the happiest place on earth about to get more expensive. disneyland announcing a ticket price increase up to 10%. passes to the park will cost $96 each. the park also ending season pass sales for local families. disneyland is the second most popular theme park in the world after disney world, of course, in florida. patti ann: a new shift on the jobs front with part time and so-called contract workers making up more of the post recession labor market. those numbers have more than quadrupled since the 1980's and joining us now is dagen. hi. so the employment numbers can be deceptive. more people have jobs now but a lot are part time. in fact, part-time work accounting for 10% of the u.s. job growth in the five years

since the recession ended in 2009. what does that say about the direction we're moving in? >> employers are hesitant to bring on full time employees and with the full time employees, they have to pay for benefits, health care and the like. if you look at what's called the u-6 unemployment figure which includes people working part time but want to work full time, that number is 12.3% last month compared to where it would be broadly quoted unemployment rate and contract workers are a different thing. these are employees that will be brought on for a specific task or for a set period of time and it can be gret for the employer because they can ramp up production like boeing down in south carolina added hundreds of contract workers for the dream liner, the 787 dream liner and it gives the employer flexibility. for that point, it's hard on the economy with contract workers and part ti-time workers.

they don't spend as much money as somebody who has a full time job. patti ann: they're worried about the job security. there are others who took the jobs because they couldn't find full time work. the federal reserve recently did a study and found almost 7.5 million people working part time, including contract workers, would rather work full time so there's a false argument? >> i think anybody, they want a job regardless of how the job comes. by the way, with a contract employee, if you think about it, if you're a web sidesigner, youe contracted by the company to do a website but you can do other jobs at the same time. that's a possibility. but with boeing down in south carolina, they created a lot of these contract workers who have been laid off some time back and they've added these jobs again so for any area or any person like if you can get a job, then the better. but again, you might not get benefits.

sometimes, though, if you're a contract worker, you could get paid more in actual salary because you don't have the benefits. >> it's an interesting subset of part-time workers and they are really on the rise since the 1980's back in 1980's they made up less than half of 1% of the work force and now they're 2.3%. because there is some kind of contract involved, do they have some more benefits or protections than just someone who is part time and doesn't get anything? >> you could very well be working full time hours rather than working just part time. one of the benefits to an economy and some of this is a function of employers are worry about taking on full time employees but the production can be much more flexible because a company can ramp up production quickly or pull it back depending on how the economic cycle changes. that is somewhat a function of

developing economy and a very -- and a strengthening economy for lack of a better word. part time, speaking of part-time workers, don't forget a lot of retailers, say target, home depot, they're not offering health care benefits to part-time workers anymore. they are -- ended those benefits and now you have to go on the health care exchange if you want to get health insurance. patti ann: it's a shift in the work force. thank you as always. >> thank you so much. jon: the department of justice naming names in a china spy program and for the first time filing charges. will this pave the way for more action to combat cyber espionage? hamm radio making a big comeback in the age of the internet and smart phones. we'll explain. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu.

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>> amateur radio enthusiast john davis says major disasters such as 9/11 and hurricane katrina underscore the need for communications not dependent on land lines or cell towers. >> just another avenue, another way to communicate especially in a crisis. >> emery health care is a growing number of emergency management agencies developing an amateur radio presence. hamm operators have a permanent station inside the georgia emergency station center. >> we look at hamm radio operators just like d.o.t. staff. they're a critical partner with us. >> the specially trained volunteers provided critical communications during this winter's ice storms that gridlocked metro atlanta. >> hamm radio will never die and the quickest way of communication is morse code. >> so in an era of emails and

smart phones, the number of hamm radio licenses in this country is at an all-time high. more than 720,000. back to you. jon: i think it was on jay leno they had a bunch of kids texting against guys doing morse code and the morse code won. they were faster. great stuff. thanks. patti ann: breaking news now. bag nounsment from the sport of kings. will california chrome getting to for the triple crown? we have breaking news coming up on that next. the day we rescued riley was a truly amazing day.

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can wear the strips. that means he, in all likelihood, unless something crazy happens, he'll be running in the belmont and could be a triple crown winner. jenna: it is exciting. in the first two races he was allowed to wear it but belmont had a rule against it. no more. jon: that's it for now. see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." today's hashtag one lucky guy, eric and he's outnumbered. >> one lucky guy and outnumbered. i agree with you. you're epic. >> we tried to have you one day gut it got gobbled up by a news conference. we're happy to have you back. it's going to be great. so gret to have you here, too. >> thank you so much for having me. >> very exciting. let's dive right into it.