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we are going through the 137 pages and continuing to give you more, julie. >> this is incredible. andom, joins from california. it is a home where three bodies were removed today. we don't know the identity of the victims as long as the next of kin is contacted. and at this point as to the bodies that were removed from the home and more about the manifesto, brian is talking about. the writing was on the wall for sometime. we'll head to the news conference. we'll interrupt you as that new's conference starts. any word on the bodies found in the suspect's home. >> it is going to focus on what the relationship was between the
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suspected gunman and those who lived in the complex. apparently his bmw matched that that he went on the ram passage with and parked outside of their and people used to deliver food to the complex and saying the accommodation is not when you rented an apartment but when you rented a bed and shared the apartment to the people. were those individuals, possible his roommates and that is one thing that the police will give details on later today. the worry is the hang up about women. and he describes how in his ideal world he would have rounded them up in concentration camps and he would have starved them to death. these are the ramblings of a disturbed man. roger is the son of the director
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of the hunger games. why do you believe that investigators are focusing on the video? what is the thought behind the youtube video had been out there for sometime. it is a seven minute long video. and it is one of the most popular media websites out there and people poked messages on youtube. it is a seven minute long video and rod gers rant about women who rejected him and warns that he will punish you all for it. and in the video, tomorrow is the day of retribution, and the day in which i will have revenge. even his parents, one of his parents anyhow about the video, rightdom? >> reporter: yeah, here's one of the troubling things. they were worried about the running video blog. but he didn't get much
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attention. he posted that last video moments before he went on a rampage here. and so maybe no one caught it in time. the family lawyer had made a statement saying that the family had told the authorities about this. that hasn't been confirmed and the lawyer was back pedalling on that. we don't know how much attention was paid to the guy. and that's probably where the break down happen. it is a very threatening video went out with a moment's notice and perhaps the window was way too narrow. it makes you wonder why the authorities didn't follow it up. and that may reveal a terrible gaping gap. and where the responsibility lies and in the fact he was not
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caught before hand. >> and that is the mother who was concerned about the son. and learning more about the family history. and he was a troubled 22-year-old. i can't imagine that they would believe that their son would carry out what he allegedly carried out today. seven dead, and 11 injured. those numbers could fluxate and we don't upon if other victim's bodies that haven't been found. it sounds to me police are calling it a mass murder and mass casulties. and at this .7 dead doesn't necessarily sound like a mass. if you will. is it believed that there are other victims we don't know about? >> that could be clarified in
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the press conference. seven lives is part of seven too minute. and yet, it certainly is a lower death count and certainly enough to shatter the community very much to the core. and the way the police are coldly calculated and deeply disturbed and how he singled out females and targeting them and wanting to kill them. if you write 137 page manifesto, boy, are you intend on inflicting harm. and the vitriol and the acid that comes cross in the manifesto and the language and the writhing hate that continues to flow page after passage is
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overwhelming to read. you can't read it all in one go. and it takes your breath away x. you have to look away. let's talk about how it all went down. it sounds as if he got into the black bmw and drove in a positive area. people on the bikes and streets and there is loud music, and so it doesn't seem like anybody knew it was coming and even though the shots were fired, they thought they were fireworks and people thought they heard it and didn't go outside to see what happened. it seems to me since people didn't react right away other than the screams of police officers that warned people imminent danger was upon them and they needed to hide to spare
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their lives from black bullets out of the bmw. the community had no idea what was going on and once they had, it was too late? >> reporter: you know, i spoke to one of the young people. it was friday night and 9:30 and people were drunk and partying here on the weekend. and that's how they described it and after they heard shots fired and a lot of people thought they were fire works and they could see shattered windowed and shells rolling on the street and they were entoxicated and picking up the used shells and throwing them around and that gives you a sense of what the environment is like here on the university of california santa barbara, it is known for heddonistic and full on in terms of how hard they party. and you kind of get what the
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culture is like here. they are not taking it seriously. and that is the environment at the time. and police had nine separate crime scenes? >> >> he was just barrelling his car in crowds and not only was he pulling a rifle outside of his window and shooting and sprayed bullets. but then he was literally slamming on the gas of his car and barrelling into people on the street including i read a cyclist whose body was thrown on to the wind shelled. it is on the tow truck and the windshield is blown out and that was blown out by a person on a bike he hit so hard their body flew in the windshield.
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that is one of seven victims who lost their lives. >> it is a moment of craziness. >> and just think about it. a man possessed with rage and driving a bmw and got the steering wheel in one and a rifle in another. and he's firing and trying to navigate the naeshd. you can so how the square, bends around and why it is called the loop. it is easy for him to lose control of the car. he crashed it in to another. we don't know if that is because he was wounded. he was in two gun battles with deputies here. it was chaotic and insane and
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terrifying, julie. >> i am glad you brought it up. the victim was shot dead. the question is if it was self inflicted gun wound or cross fire with police. did the police arrive at the scene when the shooting was going on. it was a sharp shotter or police officer and stop him before his rampage could continue and kill more people. >> if you look at the bmw. he went on the spree, he was intercepted and one group of deputies opened four and managed to escape them. and that shortly after is where he came to his end. i think what is going to be tell- tale here is how precisely the gunman died. it was so bad they are going to
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require dna evidence and the family was taken over to identify his body, but police officers said it could require dna evidence. we don't know if his recognizable or not. you can imagine the injuries. if it was inflicted by himself it was short range. and it could be frankly very messy. and if it was sheriff deputies using handguns or shotguns, it could be a variety or any kind of wound to the head depending on the distance. hopefully it will come forward now, julie. >> we are waiting a new's conference coming out of santa
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barbara, california. we are expecting to hear from the santa barbara county sheriff department. bill brown is expected to speak about the tragedy that occurred in california. a 22-year-old by the name of elliott rodger, a gunman who decided he would go on a mass killing spree, and got in the black bmw and started firing. and does it look like someone is about to run to the microphone. we are about to hear from the sheriff department any moment now. there is photographers and video gravers and reporters on the scone. we'll hear from the sheriff and possibly the fbi getting involved. this investigation is ongoing. he acted alone. and the gunman and prime suspect in this case. and the active investigation continues and the good news it
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doesn't appear to work with anyone else. >> and we talked about the manifesto, and it is 130 some pages of where he detailed the death in a glorifying and sick and twisted away. he posted a seven minute video on youtube. it was titled retribution and on it, he said that wants to get out there and kill women who ignored and rejected him. he will punish him and tomorrow is the day of retribougz and the day he would have revenge. the new's conference will start in a moment from now. what age you are.
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conference in santa barbara. the sheriff's department will add hopefully answers to the mystery. and the horrible situation that unfolded friday night. in california, seven people dead and ted williams is a former homicide detective and attorney and fox news contributor. the first thing i think of, but it so manies like there were so many instances of warning and red flags that this kid had problems and he was out to get revenge. revenge against women and a youtube video and now 130 page manifesto that he did not write
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overnight. >> it is chilling as i said here in the studio. i have a copy of the 147 page manifesto and it goes from when he was a child and when his mother and father split up all the way up to his 22 years in this world. but part i read was this. in part. how could an inferior ugly black boy, get a white girl and not me? i am beautiful and half white and descended from the british a ris to crazy. and he goes on and on and on. and he talks about his hate for women. it is transparent in the manifesto and how he hated women. this was a madman and delusional and pers kougz complex and
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believed that everybody was against him. and yet he was a person of privilege and a terribly sick individual. >> in the manifesto he describes revenge as a glorious event. it was obviously something that his parents had seen for many years that this is a troubled person. most likely he was a troubled child and he grew up to be a troubled adult. he was 22 years old and his mother spoke with police and brought it to their attention that their son had ill will toward others, what could police have done if not, what could police have donement >> what could have been done to prevent this. >> you know, the word absolutely nothing comes to my mind. you got to realize. we have so many young people in america who are delougzal to
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some degree. and if every parent goes to law enforcement and mentions this. there is not enough to go out and investigate every delougzal child or person who may be delusional. and the only thing law enforcement can do in these situations is be reactive and not proactive. in this instance, i believe that his parents knew that certainly something was wrong with this young man and maybe perhaps we'll so him getting help. >> his father is port rodger and director of the hunger games and his family works in film, creativity obviously running in the family and unfortunately
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that went in a sour way when it came to this child and now adult, that potentially pulled off the heinous crime, what would you say at this point, about the pre-meditated murder part of this? he is a cowed of pre-meditated mass murder and the three bodies that we don't know. perhaps housemates that are removed from the apartment? >> it is no doubt about it, he planned this. not only are we dealing with three bodies that are supposedly in his apartment. but talked approximate how to bring women to his apartment and bring human beings to his apartment and kill them. and he talks about the day that law inn forcement came there and how he thought he would be discovered and if they would have discovered him, what happened last night would not have happen. when you read the manifesto here, this 137 or 40 page
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document, you can see while there is rambling discord, you can so a well educated young man, but you can tell that the mentality and the mind set and hate of women. he had a love- hate relationship with women. he wanted women in his life, but he talked about how he would a nilalate them and how he would treat them in awe different manner. in many shoes, i have been in many of these scenes from virginia tech to the navy yard, and it is rare that we get a look at a person with such a mental feeling, but when you look at the 137 page rambling discord of a manifesto, it gives
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you some insight in to the crazy mind of this individual. nlilac sunday. your guest call them delougzal. nonsense. he was evil and not sick. are we too quick to assume that if they pull off a despicable crime that they are sick and mental illness or are they pure evil. the criminal justice system and defensive lawyers go with that sort of defense, this guy will never get defense because he is dead. if he was alive a defense attorney would say he was sick and not in his right mind and didn't have control over this. or did he? >> you are right. the viewer is correct. but there is a thin line between being delusional and being sick.
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as we go along in the days to come, you are going to have psychiatrist and psychologist and other mental health providers studying this manifesto and while they themselves and i am not a psychiatrist by any stretch of the imagination, they will come away, and that human beings, in a right state of mind, don't just pick up a gun at random and go out and try to harm other human beings. yes, you are sick and you are delusional. and he was delusional in a sense of how he thought about woman and how he thought he was discarded. that in and of itself was delusional. and the sick aspect is picking up the gun and shooting at individuals at random and using his car as a murder weapon in attempting to run over people.
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this is that thin line between delusion and being sick and also being very evil. it is a dangerous concoction. >> and as we await the new's conference. bill brown is expected to step up to the mike there. and a former homicide detective and fox news contributor and we are talking about the police activity here. they are going to give us some answers. he said the police had gone to his home and he was scared to death when he answered. and he said had they entered his home they would have discovered a whole slew of evidence that would have given him up and he would be busted right then and there, could they have the right to enter his home under those grounds and circumstances? >> an excellent question and the answer is no. under walking up and talking to
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a person, a police officer, unless he has more reasonable s suspicion and can't go willy-nilly in the home. and pursuant on what they talked about at the time. you town videos and et cetera. and that in and of itself is not enough for police officers to go in and rarely unbelievable to me to believe that a judge would have given a search warrant under these circumstances. law enforcement did what they could. they saw a young man who answered the door and cooperative and did not so many to be delusional or evil or sick. they conducted an investigation and they left. >> what do you make of the
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gunman and how he died in the whole thing? you believe that the police stopped there and reacted quickly enough. the gun shot wounds, we don't know if they were self inflicted. his car was riddled by gun four. if not for the police, we would have talked about more than seven fatalities. it is correct. remember we have actually two shootouts. the first time, once a law enforcement was notified of the shooting spree. they were there and there was one shootout and he escaped that shootout and in the subsequent shot out is where he was shot. mainly he was shot in the head. and one of the bullets and he was unrecognizable and unidentifiable and that may be
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because he took his own life. i don't know that and i am not saying that he did. we may learn more in the new's conference and as to how he died. >> ted williams, if you stand by. obviously he had no value for life. and he went in to this not expecting to live through. itdom rejoins me now. you are blocks away from the suspect's home and that's where you reported when it broke on fox in fact that three bodies were found in his home. we talk about the manifesto as gruesome to the point you put it down and that hard to read. it is 137 odd pages and he not only wanted to seek revenge against women and any woman really after being rejected if you will in his love life,
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whatever that was. >> reporter: he hated women and humanity. that is clear. women had to die first. but he felt alienated by everybody else around him. i haven't read that far into it and so many pages of what he thinks about his family. it will give an indication of what he experienced. literally the first charpter is life age 0 to 5 as he described as a happy time. and then psycheiologist will be reading in to for years to come. how rare do you get 130 page manifesto in cases like this. i will not be surprised it would not be a case study because it is so elaborate in detail. it is a ramblings of a madman,
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but he is eloquent in how he writes and articulated and detailed and gave it a lot of thought and wrote it like a thesis. and so he was an intelligent man who did an unteleible act by the rampage he did. and what is strange, if you read the document and watch the youtube videos, he comes across as a typical southern california kind of guy and laid back and his voice and that accent and very southern california. he was born in the uk and moved here when he was a younger man. and that style of delivery, that he has and a sense of personality bears little resemblance of his intel egypt
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delivery. it is an extraordinary case i must say, julie. >> thank you,dom. stand by with us. we are waiting the new's conference that was supposed to start 30 minutes ago. the santa barbara's sheriff department is supposed to be speaking there at 8 o'clock oastern and 5:00 pacific. obviously they running behund. they want all of their ducks in a row and information to come out. there are victim's families here as well. and naturally all of the victim's families have been notified at this point, because the police wait to inform immediate family before they come out and hold a new's conference like. this they are trying to get all of the information together before they bring it to us. we'll take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back.
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fox urnlent. looks as if the new's conference is about to begin. bill brown is expected to speak in reference to the deadly shooting rampage. 22-year-old elliott rodger killed seven. and 137 page manifesto and detailing the mass murderer. we happen that those dead in the home are house mates.
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we are about to listen to bill brown who will give us. and they set up what looks to be a map. and they have nine different shooting scones. getting in the black bmw and drove nor a college campus and started shooting outside of his window and using his vehicle as a weapon and rammed in crowds of innocent civilians. and that is a handgun in his car. and we don't believe. and that is due to police. and it was a massive hole in the windshield. and that is on top of the car as
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well. they are basically they are helping the media and sheriff's department illustrate what they are about to talk about. they are talking about the semi-automatic handgun they found in the car and there is the picture. and elliott rodger wrote a detailed manifesto of what he planned and what he intended to carry out. but we are learning more about how he described his family life in the manifesto. in age seven he went through a divorce and age 13 he went to see a psychologist and that was the beginning. and he laid out his plan in three phases. first phase was to kill the
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housemates and any good looking man. >> we have to interrupt you. we are taking the new's kfrps live. good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen of the press, thank you for coming and we apologize for the delay in starting the press conference. my name is bill brown and i am the insure coronnor of santa barbara county and joined by people from the sheriff's office and executive and command staff and a number of the allied agencies and community leaders. i am joined by acting under sheriff don patter areson and sam gross who is in charge of the law enforcement operations and commander dar own foodingham. and acting commander steverobell who is commander of the criminal division. and lieutenant kelly moore who is overseeing the criminal
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investigation and lieutenant steve johnson assisting him in that regard. i am going to be joined by dr. stephen ka mi nsy who is the director of trauma services and he will be speaking following my remarks. i want to acknowledge and thank the community leaders who are present here today to show their support. and we have a second county district department janle wolf. and doreen far and chancellor henry ya ng in santa barbara. dr. lori gadsen who is the president of the the city college. and carlos, who is special agent in charge of the los angeles office of bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. and dr. lesly lunt who is with
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the mental health services and mark derely captain and commander of the santa barbara office of the california highway patrol. and jeff skoeba assistant chief for the coastal division of the california highway patrol and lieutenant dave malard of the usc santa barbara police department. this is our second press conference to present information pertaining to the mass murder incident that occurred last night in a la vista. it was a chaotic and rapidly unfolding and covideoulated incident that involved multiple crime scenes. investigators from the santa barbara sheriff's office and allied agencies processed evidence and investigating the occurrence in the evening and up to the present time. additional information has now
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been received that will clarify and some cases correct information that was preliminary conveyed at our first press conference. i would like to start by confirming the ieshs deptity of the suspect in this case. his name was elliott oliver robertson rodger. rodger. his date of birth july 24th, 1991. a 22-year-old euroasian male and a student of santa barbara city college who was living in a la vista. and our agency has had three previous documented contacts with suspect rodger. the first of those occurred in july 21st of 2013 when the
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suspect was contacted at the hospital where he was being treated for injuries and claimed to be the victim of an assault. a uc police department a signed to the to the patrol documented that incident and received information that the informant, mr. rodger may have been the aggressor in that incident. that case was suspended pending additional leads. the second was january 15th, 2014, when suspect rodger contacted our agency and a coccd his roommates of stealing three candles that were valued at $22.
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it was petty theft and the rom mate was booked and cited and released and later the case was subsequently referred to the district attorney that filed a petty theft charge in that case. >> the third incident occurred april 30th of 2014 when sheriff deputies contacted the suspect at his residence following a check to check on his weal fare. come from a family member. and the deputies contacted the suspect and found him to be polight and courteous and down played concerns for his welfare and the deputies cleared the call. i want to now go in a crimology
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of theentious vents last night. we have a fairly good all be it some what still rough crimology. >> we have identified ten separate locations where criminal activity took place. in some of those locations, there are more than one specific crime scene. but i am going to go through the locations and refer to them as 1- 10. you received a sheet that has a map with the numberals on the show the to give you an idea of where the incident unfolded and where and what i am about to tell you occurred. location number one, it appears that suspect rodger murdered three victims within his residence. in the 6500 block of seville rod proir to the shooting rampage
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that took place last night. three male victims appeared to have been repeatedly stabbed. we are still processing that crime scene and still in the process of positively identifying the victims and notifying their next of kin so i will not have their idenities for you at this time. the second location was the beginning of last night's rampage and that was in the a lph a ph i soiority in dell norte. and several members of the sorority reported hearing loud and aggressive knocking in the front door that lasted 1 or 2 minutes. fortunately no one opened the door and shortly afterwards witnesses reported seeing three young women standing outside in
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the vicinity shot by the suspect from across the street. the victim's names two of those victims were fatally wounded and one thankfully is still alive. the two victims killed, were kathryn brean cooper a 22-year-old, and veronica elizabeth weiss, a 19-year-old, both of these young ladies were students. they were the two that were killed and the third victim, who is still alive suffered multiple gun shot wounds. after shooting those victims, the suspect travelled to location number throw, a nor by delicatess an on pardell road. he exited his vehicle and
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entered the deli and he shot and killed 20 year old christopher ross mo michael- martinez that was a usb student. to the patrol deputies heard the shooting and responded to investigate the incident. as they arrived in the scene. they witnessed the suspect who at that time was unknown, fleeing east bound in his suspect vehicle, a black bmw. the suspect, continued to location number four at the top of the loop, where he fired multiple rounds at two people on the sidewalk. now the suspect drove his vehicle on the wrong side of the
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rod that was parallel to the sidewalk when he shot from the driver's window. the suspect continued forward and he turned southbound on to el embarkdero. and eastbound on del playa to location number five and he brandished a handgun at a female victim. the suspect fired additional rounds. turned his vehicle around and started to travel westbound on del playa. a loan sheriff deputy was taken under fire by the suspect. the sheriff deputy returned fire and the suspect drove off westbound on del playa. he travelled to location number
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six, in the 6600 block of deplaya where he struck and injured a bicyclist with his vehicle. and the suspect continued west to camuno del sir and turned now on to that road. he proceeded at the intersection that is location number seven. caminnow and sabata rdi and fired multiple shots at pedestrians in the area. three of those pedestrians were struck by the suspect's gunfire. the suspect travelled eastbound where he shot another victim at location number eight, the intersection of cameno.
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>> and the suspect continued to drive eastbound to location number nine, where he came in contact with four sheriff deputies that were running across acorn park in response to the gun four. the suspect accelerated past the deputies and he fired at them. three of the four sheriff deputies were able to return fire at the suspect, striking the suspect's vehicle and we believe shooting the suspect in his left hip area. the suspect drove off, and again turned south and proceeded to del playa and turned westbound on del playa street he had been on previously. witnesses reported the suspect accelerating his vehicle to a high rate of speed and struck
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another bicyclist. and this suspect was thrown on the hood and caved in the windshield of the vehicle. the vehicle collided with several parked cars and responding deputies immediately removed the suspect from the car and handcuffed him. he was obviously dead with an apparent gunshot wound to the head. so in summary, there were a total of ten different locations with 12 actual crime scenes between those locations. between those locations, there were a total of seven fatalities, six innocent victims, and one suspect. an additional 13 people were injured during this melee. four of them were apparently injured by the suspect's vehicle when he struck them.
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eight of those individuals sustained gunshot wounds and one sustained a minor injury of unknown origin. three .9 millimeter semi-automatic handguns were recovered from the suspect's vehicle. two of these were six-hour pp 6 model handguns and the remaining was a glock 34 long slide. and we have images of those times of firearms there as well as a photo of one of the suspect weapons for you on the screen. with the assistance of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms we have determined that all of these weapons were legally purchased from federally licensed firearms dealers and that they were all registered to the suspect.
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one weapon was purchased in goleta, one in oxnard, and one in burbank. in addition to the weapons, the suspect had 34 loaded ten-round magazines for the pistols and seven ten-round magazines for the glock pistol. this investigation is continuing and we expect more information will be released within the next day or two. at this time i would like to turn the podium over to dr. kaminsky for some comments regarding the injured victims. >> thank you, sheriff brown. i'll be very brief. my last name is k-a-m-i-n-s-k-i.
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i am the trauma director now for cottage health system in santa barbara cottage hospital. s-t-e-p-h-e-n. on behalf of cottage health system i extend my condolences to the families and friends of those affected by this tragedy. our thoughts are with you. we are deeply saddened by the events that occurred in our community. we are doing everything we can to provide the best care to the victims who arrived at our hospitals. and our social workers and spiritual care team are providing support for the patients and their families. i can provide with you the following information on this incident. four patients were treated and released at goleta valley hospital last night and early into the morning, early into the morning today. seven injured victims were
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transported to our trauma center at santa barbara cottage hospital. where they remain in our care. of those seven, two patients are in good condition, three patients are in fair condition, and two patients are in serious condition. thank you for your cooperation in allowing the privacy and space needed for these patients and families to heal. out of respect for their confidentiality and compliance with the confidentiality law, i will not be able to provide any further information on individual victims or their injuries. thank you. >> thank you. again i want to thank the press for being here. in summary, i would just like to express on behalf of all of the men and women of the santa barbara county sheriff's office and our allied agencies and our community leaders who are here
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today, our deepest condolences to the victims who were killed in this tragic incident, and our best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery from all of the injured victims as well. and i want to reemphasize something that i said yesterday. that is to commend the actions that have been taken in response to this case by the men and women in law enforcement, particularly in my department. i particularly am exceedingly proud of the response that was delivered in the field. the resolute and heroic manner in which my deputies engaged this homicidal suspect in two separate gun battles and i have no doubt that had they not done that, had they not engaged in that kind of activity, that
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there would have been further loss of life and further injury. especially when we have determined the suspect had over 400 remaining rounds of ammunition in his possession. so my kudos to all the people involved in particular those who are actually out there dealing with the incident as it unfolded. we can take a few questions at this point. i will lead with the caveat that some of the information i may not be able to provide to you at this point in time. we will continue to keep you updated as well. >> the question is when did we become of videos on the web and the manifesto, the written document that apparently was written by the suspect. we became aware of that fairly quickly in the investigation
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last night. and in reading this 141-page rambling auto biographical, almost a combination of an autobiography and a diary, it is very apparent, the severe extent of how disturbed mr. rodger was. the fact that he had been and was continuing to be seen by a variety of different health care professionals. but it is very, very apparent that he was severely mentally disturbed. when you review that document. the videotape is a chilling -- there were several videotapes he had posted. the one posted just prior to the attack is a particularly chilling one in which he basically looks at the camera and talks about what he is about to do.
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[ inaudible ]. >> what i can tell you is that when the deputies contacted him, he, you know, this was in response to a check on the welfare call to check on his welfare, to see how he was doing out of concern for him. the deputies contacted him directly at his residence. and they determined that he did not meet the criteria for an involuntary mental health hold. he was, as i said, court just and polite. he appeared timid and shy. he did not meet the criteria for 5150 of the welfare code which is what would authorize him being held temporarily for an
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examination. he expressed to the deputies that he was having difficult business his social life and he probably would not be returning to school in the next year. the deputies discussed options with him in terms of support offered resources to him and ultimately cleared that call without further action. i'm not going to go back and play monday morning quarterback at this point. we're still investigating this incident and exactly what happened at the intersection that they have. you have to understand that this is a fairly routine type of call that is quite common place. and the deputies who are well trained and are adept at handling these types of call did contact this ge

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