examination. he expressed to the deputies that he was having difficult business his social life and he probably would not be returning to school in the next year. the deputies discussed options with him in terms of support offered resources to him and ultimately cleared that call without further action. i'm not going to go back and play monday morning quarterback at this point. we're still investigating this incident and exactly what happened at the intersection that they have. you have to understand that this is a fairly routine type of call that is quite common place. and the deputies who are well trained and are adept at handling these types of call did contact this gentleman in an

effort to find out whether his welfare was imperilled and did not reason for the reasons that they have as a result of that contact that he required any further care. i won't second guess them at this point. as you are aware in the manifesto he lays out a plan on what he intended to do. i will without getting into too much detail, i will say that three of the, there are three people that were murdered in the apartment. it appears as though that happened prior to him going on this mobile shooting rampage. the three male victims were apparently stabbed repeatedly with sharp objects. and it was a pretty horrific crime scene. the question is, did he shoot

himself or was he shot by sheriff's deputies? it would appear as though he took his own life at this point. we're still in the process of determining exactly who those people are and making positive identifications and notifying the next of kin so i can't comment to that question right now. we're going to be looking at any and all evidence that we can gather. we are asking anyone -- as you can imagine, we have interviewed a huge number of witnesses. and there are probably still many more witnesses who we have not yet been in contact with. if anyone was privy to any information about this case or if anyone actually witnessed any aspect of this rampage that occurred last night, we

encourage them to contact the santa barbara county sheriff's office. i can't comment on that, nick. the victims who were killed, the first three were killed in the suspect's residence. the next two were killed outside the alpha phi sorority. and the remaining fatally injured victim was killed at a business, at a delicatessen. three in the apartment, two at the sorority and one in the delicatessen. that's six by my math. then we had one additional that was the suspect's.

we had a total of seven fatalities. [ inaudible ] all three weapons were purchased prior to his contact. you have to understand when a firearm is purchased, there is a check run on people who purchased the firearm. but if a person has not been institutionalized or has not been taken against their will and put on hold, that information is not entered into a database and it is not disqualifying information for someone buying a gun legally. we did not have any 911 calls related to the stabbing and we

subsequently found the victims while we were in the process of investigating this case. and went to the suspect's residence. i'm going to take one more question. >> we have not been in contact other than recently, other than last night with his parents and interviewed them and notified them of his death. thank you, ladies and gentlemen. we appreciate it. >> hi, everybody. i'm the public information officer. i know there are still a lot of unanswered questions and i know we have a complicated list of locations. so we do have a map for you guys with all the locations that i can give you. and i'll be around to help with you any additional questions that you have. thank you for coming. we will probably do another news conference. we don't have a time yet. hello.

welcome to justice. the sheriff's department just wrapping up their press conference on the deadly shooting rampage in california. dominic has the latest. >> reporter: we've been hearing from the santa barbara sheriff's department. just precisely what happened last night, the sequence of events and learning very much what actions happened blow by blow, quite frankly. extraordinary opening really to that press conference. the details of how the suspect actually appears to have kill his three roommates at his residence. what is quite incredible there is there was clearly a history of problems with the people that he shared, the three males that he shared his residence with. one thing that the sheriff was saying, that those males that were found at the residence had been stabbed repeatedly. so it sounds like a very vicious attack before he went on that

rampage through the neighbor here in isla vista. and he just went on about how he got in that black bmw, gone through the neighborhood, first of all firing on three females, two of which died very shortly after that. and then as he continued to fire on other people, culminating in hitting a bicyclist who went across the hood of his vehicle, smashing the windshield and ultimately that crashing and then the deputy dragging the suspect from the car. by the time they got him out and actually handcuffed him, they see that he had died of some sort of head wound. no clarification on whether the head wound was the result of an exchange of fire with the deputies or whether it had been self-inflicted. one thing that the sheriff was saying, however, was that he may certainly had appeared to have received some sort of head to the hip which might have explained the way the car

careemed into the vehicle. so an awful lot of details to absorb. one other thing the sheriff was saying, that the suspect, elliot rodger, his parents had been interviewed and his body had been formally identified. so rounding out the family so far, all the involvement with the family. he went into some detail with what regards to what the manifesto was saying. a very extremely disturbed young man. also a love more from the authorities to come out. i'm sorry. a lot more to come out as they delve into the 141 rambling manifesto. judge? >> all right. thank you. the lapd detective and fox news contributor mark furman joins us. we heard a chilling recount by the santa barbara sheriff's department of ten different

places where there were shootings, stabbings, drive by shootings, where he exits the vehicle, goes into a deli and kills someone. two bicyclists injured at different times and then he accelerates speed. this kid was really on a rampage. what is your first impression? >> well, first, he was definitely motivated to do as much damage as he could. there were no going back once he killed three of his roommates. he probably did that in some way. incapacitated him so he could stab all three. he didn't seem to be physically able to overpower three people so he had time to think. and load up his vehicle. and then it seems like most of his victims were not people that he knew. he tried to get into the sorority. when that failed, then probably the second option was just go and drive and find females that

he could shoot at. >> do you know what's interesting, there were three previous documented contacts. one of them where he actually accuses his roommate. and accuses him of stealing three candles and then, mark, makes a citizens arrest. so you and i both know, having done this. had the kid rodger actually lived, he would have used some kind of insanity defense. but here's a guy who understood exactly how to make a citizens arrest. who was able to purchase weapons and apparently was purchasing them before there was contact with law enforcement. what about according to the sheriff, there were many contacts that he had with mental health professionals. how does that play in? >> well, first, it's a college campus. they'll have a lot of contacts

with students and on the campus. that isn't surprising. as far as the roommate situation, a roommate dispute or a business dispute, that's not unusual either. having citizens arrest for petty theft. we never wanted to deal with it. but if they're obligated to make the arrest, that alleviates the law enforcement official from doing it. that's not a problem. when they went to his house about a welfare check, that's exactly what it is. a family member usually a parent or a grandparent is concerned about somebody so they send somebody to a location. you check on that person. the person is okay. and the mental defect that this young man has, it is very obvious that he was highly manipulative. it was part of one of his probably multiple disorders. so he diffused that situation. . all right. thank you so much for being with us. we'll try to bring you back. and coming up, who is this 22-year-old kid who decides to take a gun and kill people over

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a mass shooting rampage near uc santa barbara. new information about the shooter. now identified as 22-year-old elliot rodger. police calling the drive-by shootings in the college town of isla vista premeditated murder. joining me now, retired detective pat brosnan and here in new york, dr. robby ludwig. you're there on vacation. i guess this is not what you would have expected. what surprises you most about this horrific scene so far? >> well, a couple things. first of all you mentioned vacation. nypd detectives show up in the strangest places. but the fact is this is a beautiful beach front community and it is very, very densely pop

lafltd it is about a half a square mile. and they have around 13,000 students between the city college and the university. what we have is really a recipe for an absolute nightmare. and this was the biggest weekend, i'm told, of all the weekends. the city college finished their exams this week and there are two weeks left on the university students. but i was able to locate about five eyewitnesses, actually, to the shooting which, an element of the shooting whereby their vehicles were shot and one was shot three times and removed from the scene. and they actually saw him go out of his way and run down, cross over the lane and run down a skateboarder who was coming toward him. >> pat, when the sheriff described so many places where he would shoot and then get out and accelerate and go into a deli. this kid was really determined to kill as many people as

possible. is that your take? and what does that tell you? >> not only my take but i had the opportunity to speak to these eyewitnesses. and it is their take as well. it is extraordinary. he was rolling through the streets here in his black bmw. no different than the angel of death on this six-minute, think about it. six minutes of absolute destruction and savagery. unbelievable and the most terrifying thing is the densely populated nature of this beautiful beach front college community. he had, count it, 41 additional clips for his two six hours in his glock .9 millimeter. that's 400 something runs. >> he had over 400 remaining rounds left. but dr. ludwig, let me go to you. i started reading there 140 page manifesto. his plan of what he intended to do and all the suffering in the world has been at the hands of humanity. particularly women. and it is kind of interesting. he says very shortly after my seventh birthday, the news came that my mother and father were

getting a divorce. my life would change after this. now, in this manifesto, he despises women. what is going on in this kid's head? >> it is so interesting. when i was first listening to him, oh, he is angry with women for rejecting him. then i started to have a different idea. is this somebody who is trying to fight against his homosexual impulses. this is a kid who couldn't connect and felt enraged and wanted to obliterate anyone that made him feel like a nothing. that's what this guy felt like. a nothing on the one handled. and then a grandiosity on the other hand. he is talking about how beautiful he is, how sophisticated he is. but clearly early signs, i don't know, i haven't diagnosed him. early signs of schizophrenic. that's what it sounds like. >> one of the things that he

talk about in the manifesto was, his mother, apparently at the end of may, my mother told me that i had to move to santa barbara on june 4th. it sounds like a lot of this goes back to his own mother. and the killings were not just of women but men and women. >> right. and i think too, was he angry at the men for not choosing him? this is a kid who was just angry in general and probably felt rejected. he couldn't connect. he could not feel loved or successful. maybe he didn't feel like a real man. ? if he had this many problems, very quickly, and he had all this contact with mental health professionals. it reminds me of james holmes in colorado, in aurora. what does the school say about it? he was a student, right? i can't imagine he was normally. >> if you have early signs of schizophrenia, sometimes it is hard to tell the difference. you can appear depressed which

is kind of normal for kids in the 20-year-old age group. heed my appeared odd but sometimes it is hard to distinguish. if he is not revealing that he plans to kill anyone or is keeping this very close to the vest because he wants to have a dramatic surprise for people, then it is very hard to tell sometimes. it is easier to tell in retrospect. >> very quickly, what's the mood there right now? >> reporter: the mood is very somber, judge. as i mentioned, i spoke to five or six eyewitnesses and i've also spoken to over a dozen individuals who are students here. i'll tell you another layer of horror -- >> we've got to go. we've got a break coming up. >> you've got it, judge. >> thanks for being with us. sorry to rush. take care. and we're coming right back. i make a lot of purchases for my business.

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we're back with the latest on the california shooting spree. back with me, former nypd detective, former detective pat fuhrman. pat, you were talking about the fact that when the sheriff came out and said this guy rodger banged on that door of the sorority house very loudly for one to two minutes, what is the big thought that you have from that? >> terrifying stuff, judge. it could have been exponentially worse. these were the blonds he was after. he was observed slamming through the door. through grace of god, they didn't answer or they weren't home. unbelievable. he went there first. >> but he had killed the guys. i understand he had killed his three roommates before he actually went to the sorority house. that's my understanding. is that correct? >> that's correct. when i say the rampage, that's correct. i'm referring to the street

rampage. i'm referring to the angel of death rolling. >> or quite possible, and i'll move to you, mark, quite possible that these young women did not open the door because they knew it was him. >> he was probably a creeper. he was somebody who was creepy from the onset. and that's why he was angry. look at the overarching lesson we have here. when you have somebody with this kind of mental disease, if you're going to stop this violence, it is only through incarceration of the person. >> all right. incarceration meaning mental health institutionalization or jail. >> well, it doesn't make any difference. he commits a crime and he is institutionalized in a mental institution or a prison. but this violence won't stop because you take away a gun or you take away explosives. you take away a car. this is something in him. guess on live it out. >> i think the proof of that is the fact that he took a knife and repeatedly stabbed his

roommates. last thought. what do we need to do from your perspective? >> we need to know men in their 20s are very vulnerable. and also to provide support groups for these individuals in addition to therapy. either online or a community that can support. listen, rejection happens. it is normal. people get through it. they don't have to live with that rage and feel they're the only ones. >> and i think that whole community, guys, can use a lot of support going forward. a lot of people won't be feeling safe going out anymore. thank you so much for being with us. a u.s. marine jailed in mexico has been threatened with jail in the states if he doesn't show up for active duty. what? we talk to his mother and sister next. sfx: car unlock beep. vo: david's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.

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half the election districts are not operating due to the rubble uprising. now back to justice with judge jeanine. for all the latest headlines, go to fox news.com. >> we continue to get more information on the deadly shooting in california. >> reporter: people are going to take away from this day after the press conference by the sheriff, whether this could have been prevented. there were three documented moments of contact or incidents of contact between the sheriff's department and rodger. it goes back to july of last year when there was originally, he was in hospital alleging that he had been beaten off. the police thinking that he was the aggressor. then in january of this year, he made a citizens arrest of his

house mates of some $22. then the sheriff's department knocked on his door yet again. just four weeks ago after a request by his parents on a welfare check of which he made down his state of health and his condition. of course, the worry had been from his parents by then that he had been posting very disturbing messages online. and of course, we stand where we are today, judge, back to you. >> all right. a lot of questions going forward. thanks so much. and moving on, the family of the u.s. marine sergeant andrew held in prison since march. a 25-year-old arrested on weapons charges who faces 6 to 21 years in a mexican jail is innocent. the afghan vet said he just made a wrong turn. meanwhile the marine corps just sent orders for him to return in june or face punishment.

>> if the sign where your son unintentionally entered mexico is so ambiguous, why is the government of mexico holding him? >> that's a very good question, judge. he ended up at the border and said i made a wrong turn. please let me go back. i have guns in my truck. he had all his worldly possessions including his three u.s. firearms but they wouldn't let him turn back and go to the border. >> my understanding is that it was so ambiguous in terms of, you know, when he was actually entering mexico or if he would miss the turn that they have put up a new sign that makes it clearer. is the state department helping with you this? >> well, i heard that secretary of state john kerry did say that he raised the issue when he was

in mexico. so we're hopeful that there is at least some dialogue between the united states and mexico about andrew's fight for freedom. he is being unjustly imprisoned and he needs to get home. >> i understand your son suffers from ptsd. he is in jail. how is he doing? >> this experience i believe was worse than his two combat tours in afghanistan. he was nearly killed in the la mesa penitentiary by who he called hitmen in the cell with him. then he was four points restrained to a bed for nearly 35 days. i would say this was worse than anything he experienced in my opinion in afghanistan. >> how horrible. and when, you say that he was four chains? that means every limb chained for 35 days? >> yes, yes. spread eagle in a bed for 35

days in the la mesa penitentiary. and he had just been diagnosed with ptsd ten days earlier at the v.a. >> when we think about what happens when a mexican enters the united states, and they get everything from health care to housing to everything else. when the reverse happens, i mean, you have to be furious. >> i'm outraged. and andrew is still scared for his life and scared for his freedom. he is at 21 years. >> that's horrible. quickly. what is with the marine corps sense him a demand to show up to the u.s.? >> well, i was optimistically hopeful that that was an actual direct message from our commander-in-chief, president obama and it would say, i need my marine back. he is still under contract. but unfortunately, it was just a random mustard pull and the state department had that excused within a day or two. >> so the commander-in-chief

clearly was not calling him back. but have you heard from the commander-in-chief? >> no, i have not. we have a white house.gov petition. and i need 100,000 signatures by the end of the month. it will require the white house to respond to the petition that states demand release of sergeant tahmooressi. so if you could please stand behind that. >> thank you so much. we are behind out this one and good luck to you. we're praying. >> thank you. and coming up, how can an election on the other side of the globe in just a minute possibly affect your safety? ugh. heartburn.

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order releasing condemned terrorists from prison. on my recent visit to egypt i met with many government leaders. and ordinary egyptians who were very disappointed in the recent breakdown of the u.s./egyptian relations. those relations have been beneficial for decades from the camp david peace accords where just a minute was the first arab country to recognize the state of israel. it's the obama administration's if he canless policy, the dithering and the double speak and the refusal to support an ally, egypt, in this dangerous time that creates the type of vacuum that allows terrorists to move in. those terrorists now in libya continue to train and prepare for more attacks on the west. now, egypt has always given us flyover rights over their country and preferential treatment at the suez canal.

after 9/11, egypt shared intelligence and jointly interviewed al qaeda prisoners. most important, egypt at the cross roads of asia, africa and the mediterranean is geopoliticalally positioned to provide stability in the middle east. yet obama refuses to give the military support promise and allocated for egypt to fight al qaeda and the terrorists who threaten to destroy that country. now, egypt is one quarter of the arab world. over 90 million people. should they fall, the west is at risk. and although egyptians are fearful of al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood and ansar al virgin shari'a. egypt is mostly muslim and mostley in peace with the coptic

christians there. countless egyptians were tortured and killed and more than 1,000 christians' home have been destroyed. on my trip, i met with field marshal, one of the candidates in the election this coming monday and tuesday who made it clear that religion has no place in government. that egyptians women should decide whether they want or don't want to wear a veil. that there needs to be a separation of church and state. what most americans don't understand is that the vast majority of egyptians hate the muslim brotherhood and they want nothing more than a democracy in their country. they don't care if you're a muslim, a christian or a jew. they want a government with checks and balances, and they have in fact adopted a new constitution that guarantees equal rights regardless of agendaer and religion.

now egypt, israel and the united states, our destinies are forever intertwined. and for the u.s. to not support egypt in its fight for democracy against the muslim brotherhood is to deny our own origin. our declaration of independents says, governments are instituted among men deriving just powers from the consent of the government that whenever government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it. unfortunately, our president in true obama fashion prefers to ignore the majority of egyptians who seek nothing more than safety, security and democracy, even if it benefits the united states and our ally israel. mr. president, take a look. this is what the egyptians think of you. and with me now is our

chairman, dina who is coming to us live from cairo. good evening. >> good evening. >> egyptians go from mubarak to the election of morsi and within a year, they take to the streets to remove the man they elected. explain why. >> well, we egyptians elected morsi on the base of a social contract. to govern within a constitution, providing democracy just like anywhere. providing democracy and social justice. everything was quiet until november 2012. a few months after he came to power. when he issued the constitutional declaration you mentioned. putting him and his victor above the law. that was the beginning. they had elected a dictator. that was one.

two, morsi never ruled egypt. it was the guidance bureau who nobody had elected. it was discovered later on that the guidance bureau of the muslim brotherhood would send him instructions on everything. they even tapped the meeting that morsi was conducting and conducted those meetings and issued instructions. we have elected morsi. not his bureau. >> let me ask you, 80% of egypt are muslims. the muslim brotherhood, how would you describe them? >> two things. first of all this is a political organization and was conceived from day one as a political organization. notwithstanding the religious label, it has always been, they said it was the duty of every

muslim brotherhood member, if you wish, to rule the world. or to strive to rule the world. religion and welfare were incidental to the organization from day one. second, let me bring it closer to americans. israelis and the u.s. should not, on the 20th anniversary of hamas, of the inception of hamas, the chief of the politbureau said we are much older than 20 years. we are the muslim brotherhood. >> are you saying that the muslim brotherhood is an organization that doesn't believe in the nation of gym but rather, in their country or in their religion as almost a princedom? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> last question very quickly.

how are the egyptians? how do they feel about president obama's refusal to continue to support them during this very tense period? >> deeply disappointed. we are conducting a rear war on terror in thsinai. you have to understand, the army hasn't received any spare parts for its arsenal. that it is using to fight. when that happens, you know, the whole world risks not only an immigration of people going over to the rest of the world and practicing but an exporting of the ideology itself. >> all right. i thank you very much. we're running out of time here. thank you. we'll be continuing with this story. thanks for being with us. coming up, what israel's take is on the egyptian elections. speak with the former counsel

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with me now former israeli counsel general in new york and retired armor major general and fox news military analyst. ambassador, i'll start with you. your country borders egypt. would this election have an impact on israel? >> hi, judge. good to be with you. it's three things actually we're looking at from an israeli vantage point. one is that there will be a consistent period of stability in egypt, which has not been the case in the last three or four years with two election campaigns and repeated chaos and

constitutional breakdowns. the second would be that egypt would remain committed, as it has been, by the way, in those three, four years, to combatting terrorism in the peninsula and the gaza strip. as the viewers may remember, it borders israel on two sides, on the north and the east, but it borders egypt on the south and the southwest. and the third thing is that the israeli-egyptian peace agreement remain intact and stable. if you take those three as a package, this is what we're looking at. and i think there is a sense of cautious optimism in israel that the general election would lead to that. >> all right. general, you and i were just in egypt several weeks ago. who do you think is in the best position running for president

to protect the interest of the united states in this election? >> that's a great point, judge. remember, this is about the egyptian people. but the point that these egyptian officers made to us is that it's also about the united states. look, there's only one bull work in that broad swath of the middle east that is taking aggressive, offensive action against al qaeda and that's the egyptian military. they're doing it with the libyans in the west that are beginning to form malitia groups. while the rest of the middle east is either against us or neutral. egyptian mail tear has actually taken the fight to the military. >> to you again, ambassador, al, you believe he'll bring some

stability if elected president, has asked our president for the help on the war on terrorism. is it smart for the u.s. to provide aid to egypt at this point. >> it absolutely is. >> yes. >> both of you can answer that. go ahead. >> go ahead, general. >> it's very important to understand that the egyptian mail tear, because of their chronic economic situation are trying to fight this war on a shoe string. in many ways, these enemy militias are better armed than the egyptians are. the united states has committed to supporting the military for over 40 years. now is not the time to pull back on that military aid when the egyptian military is fighting, in many ways, our battles for us. >> no question. e kwipt of course being bordered by lib gentleman. i'll go back to you, ambassador. you know, you've got egypt which

is 80% muslim. are you surprised that a country that is muslim is so opposed the muslim brotherhood where as in the united states they are not seen as a terrorist group? >> i'm not surprised. i'll tell you why, judge. the muslim brotherhood's concept of government was to aspire to be 49%. then one day after the down fall in the elections, they found themselves with the proverbial 51%. which means that it comes with both responsibility and the accountability of actually governing. >> all right. i'm sorry. we are e we're going to have to cut you off. thanks for being with us. we're going to do this story again. thanks so much. the success of your small business depends on results. go vests! all organic, and there's tons of info on our website. that's why you rely on the best for your business. and verizon delivers the best devices on the best network.

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