be higher premiums, higher deductibles. some of those deductibles are really huge. >> that will do it here for this memorial day. i'll see you tomorrow morning at 11:00 a.m. eastern on the fox business network with varney & company. >> bl hello, everyone i'm kimberly guilfoyle. welcome to the five's memorial day special. it's the unusual kick-off -- unofficial kick off for summer. we pause to remember those who have served our country. on this memorial day, it's an outrage that some of our veterans have been betrayed by our government. dozens have died waiting for health care. >> we took him to the emergency

room at the va. september 28th, he was showing signs of blood. he wasn't feeling well. his stomach hurt. >> what did the va hospital do? >> nothing. >> he fell december 7th of last year and he broke his back. it's taken months to get the va to do anything. he needed a procedure where they inject surgical cement into the back. >> do you agree with this doctor that says there's a secret list and do you think your husband was on it? >> yesi do think my husband was on the secret list. >> you think your husband might have been the last person on that list because he died a month ago? >> he died a month ago. yep. he was probably the last person. >> that was fox's ainsley earhardt reporting. can our president fix our problem and can we trust that he will? memorial day, veterans who have faithly served, died on behalf

of this country and those that are left waiting to die? >> president obama in the past said it was going to be a important for thing for him. will he? it's going to take a lot of money, time, commitment. i'm not sure he is willing to throw all that at it. it's interesting how all these things happen to him, these scandals happen to him and he has never really seen them coming. oh, yeah, look what happened to us, irs, fast and furious, benghazi, and all these things bubble-up on him and he scrambles to try and fix them. it's a long haul. a lot of money. >> when you think about it on memorial day. it's very sobering to think about all the veterans to fight for our freedom. they faithfully earned their

right to have excellent health care and medical service. they relied on us. how can we do something to fix this and show that it means something? >> well, you can't fix the va. no amount of money is going to fix the va. as long there are no incentives, which there aren't, because it's government-run health care. unfortunately, you are going to hear more and more stories like this. that's stick -- sicken me. listening to every veteran who shares their stories. it seems until the veterans get sick. they are okay with the va. it's the same thing with free government health care. everyone likes it until you get sick. i do believe they are going to throw more money at this problem, the va has been riddled with problems for a long time but that's not the issue. there's no amount of money that can fix this because you hear of secret waiting list.

they are really not so secret. when you have a system of people flooding in for free health care, the lines are going to be extremely long. they are going to waste money. it's sick, unfortunate, it's zad, it's the reality what's going to happen on a much larger scale with obamacare. >> she brings up a valid point. with obamacare, the rest of america is going to be looking at very similar situation unless they are straighten out the problem? >> it's not. >> why not? >> because for 60 years, the veterans administration has been an organization that has been a government health care service for veterans. that's exactly right. you can throw that all out and decide you are going to give everybody vouchers. it's not just obama. this has gone back from the beginning of time when this thing was formed.

so many of the excuses are unacceptable, but i don't put it all on obama's plate and the biggest problem is the flood of veterans from iraq irand afghanistan war. >> here's the problem, so then american's want to say what if the -- what does the president say about it? >> i don't want to quell anger. i think people are right to be angry. i'm angry. every day i see this continue, i'm angry and frustrated as well. if it turns out that some of the allegations that have been made in the press are confirmed, then of course i'll be angry. it's inexcusable and americans are right to be angry about it and i am angry about it. >> that's the president on several other occasions where he has expressed anger and outrage

not necessarily with respect to to this situation. >> he's always angry. it's this emotional appeal. it's kind of like bill clinton i feel your pain kind of move. it's this community organizer role he likes to play. president obama is the man. he appointed all these people. he appointed sebelius, shinseki, and he's acting like he's not in charge and he can't do anything about it. if this was a ceo of a private company and you just said something is happening in the northwest branch, i'll really angry, i'll get to the bottom of it. unacceptable. >> is this an abdication of leadership? >> here's -- i think -- it isn't

that it's all his fault. i agree with you. it's not all his fault. but when a president or senator says i'm going to fix that when i get into office, gets into office and says i'm going to fix that, and doesn't really do anything to fix the problem. i think the hypocrisy is what we should be calling him out on that. let's move the ball forward a little bit. what can we do to fix the va? what is a good idea. andrea says maybe privatize the whole thing. >> i didn't say that. i said maybe give these veterans that we've heard from, maybe get these select veteran vouchers to go to private hospitals. >> the problem is there could be millions of them that have been pushed back or delayed. >> there could be, and let's start giving them vouchers asap. >> take one va local va and privatize that and see how that

works. >> as a test case. >> put all brand new employees, brand new hospital administrators or whatnot. see if that works. if it doesn't, then maybe we need to go back and fix the things with the va. >> i do like the idea. when president obama says he was going to transform the va into a 21st century apparatus, he threw all this money in order to target these voters and get out the vote and it was the most complex and amazing thing anybody has ever seen but he didn't do anything to the va. if they could take that band width and throw that at the va, hire more doctors and administrators at the local level -- >> that's not a fair thing to say. the waiting list and people who were trying to get benefits shrunk enormously under obama.

it's not excusable. if you take the idea of privatizing one of these things, these places are able to buy things for a lower price because there are 153 of them. >> but people are dying, bob, but -- so that's a great example that you bring up, prescription drugs. the va system negotiates its own prices for its own drugs. >> what happens is our veterans who should have the best and high quality of prescription drugs, don't get them. they are doing it on the cheap. they are treating our veterans like they are in the bargain basement. the public option which we've debated here. this is a perfect example of the public option. even obamacare yet is not totally -- i mean, if the real lefties got their way, they would have had the public option. you look at how the obamacare plan is structured, they are

government plans. >> what's your problem with trying a one test case? >> what do you have to lose? >> your push back is cost? cost is your problem here. they are blowing through hundreds of billions of dollars. >> i was pushing back i need to find a va hospital for myself. >> he's not doing well. he has obamacare. >> i think the idea of privatizing the va is like privatizing medicare. >> i said try one test case. if they become efficient, use whatever they find in the one private case. >> i can degree with that, andic agree with andrea's idea. >> you know where they are doing health care better, gitmo terrorists are getting to see

their doctors faster. >> where in -- where did you come up with that? >> you are going to defend the va? >> i'm going to defend certain parts of it. there's pretty dedicated doctors and nurses. >> i'm not saying that they are not dedicated. the whole system is corrupt and the president doesn't seem to care. >> when you say the whole system is corrupt, that's a little bit of a -- >> they also missed an opportunity. maybe if some of these veterans used to play in the nba and they were coming out of the closet and i went to the va because guess what america i'm gay and i want a sex change operation, maybe the present would have commented with rapid speed? i don't know. we've just seen this white house go into rapid response when it's a social issue or an issue that they feel passionate about that divides the country. on one we can unite the country

between republicans and democrats, we hear crickets for the first how long and the first lady who is supposed to have military families as one of her main issues in addition to let's move, why don't we move on this one? why don't we move when it comes to our veterans? here's the problem, it's the racial stuff and the sexuality stuff. >> when is this administration finding out about these things? how are they learning about this problems? especially when they learned in the transition team that they were having all these huge problems in the va. here's jay carney talking about how they learned about the va scandal. part of the problem, i think. >> we learned about them through the reports. i'll double check if that's not the case, but that's when we learned about them and that's when as i understand it the secretary found out about them and immediately took the action that he has taken. >> eric why is it that they have

to find out from reports? do your homework. >> you don't really believe they found out by watching tv or reading "the new york times." it's the same thing that plausible deniability. if anything bad happens, he didn't know, we found out later, neem were getting snooped on, shot, dying on waiting lists. >> wait a minute. virtually every scandal that happens in an administration, tea pot dome scandal, all of them was by the president. >> this president said he's going to be the most transparent president of history. >> 2008 transition team, 2010 the internal memo with the va, 2013, the congressman sent him a

letter and now he's just finding out about it in the washington post. >> what he's finding out is these waiting lists in phoenix that people are dying? >> i'm not buying it. >> you think that if the phoenix television station hadn't unveiled that, people wouldn't have known that? >> i think it's been known throughout the va for many years. >> the obama administration was warned about this many years. >> what you are saying is they were told there was a bunch of corrupt people that were hiding veterans on lists and did nothing about it? >> do you have to defend him on every single thing even when it's a scandal like this? can't you just once say you know what they screw up? >> i think i do that more than most people on my side. of course, it's screwed up at the va.

i don't believe that somebody -- that barack obama knew that people were dying because they were put on a secret list. >> this administration will not react until somebody dies, so somebody has to die and a news reporter has to do a story on it in order for president obama to do something about a problem. the reports about the long lines and the waiting lists and the sick -- that's not enough. we have to wait for there's a funeral for everyone to wake up because that's when the gig is up. because that's when they have to have accountability approximate because now it's out in the open because the media are actually covering it. it should matter long before then. ahead, we're going to lighten things up a little bit. we're going to talk about how to survive those road trips this summer with family and friends. millions of you are heading home from your destinations this holiday weekend, so stick around for "the five's" road trip tips. that's next.

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>> it's memorial day. 32 million americans were expected to hit the roads this weekend. road trips are just getting started this summer. we've got some tips to survive those long ones from family and friends. don't backseat drive. don't skimp on snacks and drinks. have plenty in the car. support your driver. don't expect them to do all the driving. share the duties. also defer to them on temperature control. they will need to stay comfortable and alert on a long trip. and this one is good, for the driver be curatious to your passengers, when someone needs to use the restroom, believe them. >> carrie shotgun with you and

take a gas mask and i throw the gastric in the backseat of the car. i used to do that when my kids were a lot younger. they drove me nuts. best answer to this is hire a driver if you can afford it or take a train or fly. >> way to speak to the folks. >> shotguns for your wife. it drives you crazy, backseat driver. >> you want to gas the family too. how charming. >> don't ride with me on a vacation trip. i think that's the worst idea in the world. >> sometimes your commutes out to the hamptons are four or five hours. >> they are comfortable. that's why you go to mcdonald's and get a happy meal. the other problem is having to go to the bathroom.

pack a little bottle. i make them -- >> that's going to be a habit for the rest of his life, you know. >> you are not speaking from experience, i hope? >> well, but that's when i was drunk. that's a different story. >> do you have any tips? >> i do. drive separately. just get your own car and don't even bother with it. yes, three things, one if you are going to stop for food, don't stop for mexican. number two, make sure the music is really good. don't let anybody hijack it. ear buds. that's it. >> what about the fun road trips we've had and we get a driver and you can always snack and dance in the back. >> living high off the hog. i got a few tips myself.

listen, speed, you don't have to go 55. you can go 65, 70. let's go, guys. easy pass. it's 2014. get the easy pass. get a gps. no sexting, texting, no instagraming. none of that. and using the hov lane. pick up a hitch hiker. you've got limbaugh from noon to 3:00 and beckle, in case you are wondering. >> you said your wife is not a bad person out of the car with you. does she nag you that much? >> not at all. she falls asleep so i'm alone with my thoughts for like three hours. it's a scary place. >> there's probably a lot of people who do that. >> i have two tips. this is a public service, if you are a slow-moving driver, if you want to do 55, don't do 55 in the left lane.

do it in the middle lane or right lane and most people -- do you notice how many people -- traffic gets backed up and other one think ahead. when my wife was just my girlfriend, our trip was a road trip. we drove up to wyndham, new york. it was 7 degrees. on the way, she said i have to go to the bathroom. i'm very close. we have a couple more miles and i thought i knew where i was going. an hour later, we get there, and the toilets were frozen. she hated me. >> you got to bring the bottle. >> and she still stuck with you. >> and we're still married. >> why did you go someplace where the toilets were frozen? >> it was a ski resort. i didn't think the toilets would be frozen. they were cold. very cold. >> that must have been disgusting. >> we turn the heat on the apartment and they unfreeze.

lots more to come on "the five." including some of the craziest laws in the country. it's illegal to have weeds in your yard, interesting state. we'll tell you where. jesse has a whole list of loopy laws coming up.

>> i'm shannon bream in washington. nigerian's defense chief says they have located 300 girls kidnapped by islamic extremists. he cannot use force to free

them. and this day, president obama marks memorial day ceremony with a wreath. >> because of them our nation is stronger, safer, and we'll always remain a shining beacon of freedom for the rest of world. >> embattled veterans affairs eric shinseki attended the ceremony at arlington. now back to "the five." in case you need a good lawf this memorial day, we've got something that might do the trick. it's a list of some of the stupidest laws around the country. these are local laws.

not state laws. in delaware, it's illegal to wear pants that are form fitting around the waist. in rhode island it's illegal to wear transparent clothing and in texas, it's illegal for children with bad hair cuts. >> is this legal to do that? >> this is barely legal, baby. who makes up these laws? like i should be making up some awesome laws. these aren't that good because there are things that need to be illegal for sure. do not get me started. i don't understand transparent, the bad hair cut thing. >> there are so few women that can wear form fitting skirts and shorts, you shouldn't take them off the streets the one that can, a lot of them ain't nothing

to good look at. the other thing about do you do about strip clubs? does that mean you can't go to a strip club in rhode island? >> i think it's transparent clothing. you can be nude. >> i think it's in public, you can't wear transparent clothing. >> bob, your transparent cat suit that you wear on friday night is okay. >> your disco -- he was a disco champion. >> i thought you were a -- >> no, disco, statten island. the toughest competition in the world. >> i would pay money for a

picture of bob in his disco suit. i will pay for that. >> a lot of these laws happen because lobbyists push for them but i'm wondering who pushed in california saying that you can't ride a bicycle in a swimming pool or alabama, i guess, i can't go to alabama. it's unlawful to wear women's pumps with sharp high heels. >> oooh, i'm illegal. >> that's to keep the hookers off the street. >> also in colorado, illegal to have weeds in your yard. >> no more. >> everybody in denver is watching going what, what, what/. >> no s. >> on texas, you can't have an unusual hair cut if you are a

kid. if he's in texas, looking like lady gaga like that. he needs all the protection he can. >> who determines what's unusual? >> fashion police? >> all business up front and the party in the back. >> i love this new jersey, it has a foster kindness month. it's the month of may. >> texas where men are men. >> andrea went out to find some of them. >> do you talk to yourself? >> yes, i do. >> how frequently? >> every other day. here fishie, fishie, let's catch fish. >> are you one of them. we'll talk to one of those people on "the five." i make a lot of purchases for my business.

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do you ever talk to yourself? i'm very guilty of it and i bet my co-hosts are too. if so, you are not alone. i just found lots of folks in new york city who fesed up to chatting it up solo. take a look. >> i'm going to the dry cleaner. does talking to yourself mean that you are crazy? i hope not. do you talk to yourself? >> yes, i do. >> how frequently would you say? >> every other day. i say here fishy, fishy, let's

catch fish. >> i speak to myself in the shower. >> absolutely. i get the answers when -- i want when i speak to myself. >> do you answer yourself? >> yes, i do. >> outloud? >> very loud. >> do you talk to yourself? >> occasionally. >> anything that i want to hear that i would not hear for my from my husband. >> me too. i walk around the building and i have conversations with myself, on the way home, in my apartment. i'll walk around and i'll say where did i put that pen i was going to use and what am i going to have for lunch today? >> that's qarsing -- embarrassing to admit that. i think we might need to stage an intervention orring in like that. at first when you talked to yourself, i was reminded of that

stewart smalley bit where he's staring in the mirror, i'm good. >> affirmations. >> i do when i play golf. >> where did you learn that? >> he does it before he comes on "the five" to be with you and bob? >> you know, waters, you swinging like a girl? you yell at yourself like that. >> that's okay. you are allowed to kick your own butt on a football field, golf course. >> do you talk to yourself? >> once in a while, what? i'll pretend like i'm talking to someone on my phone. >> sometimes i notice you'll say what because you'll miss what you say, it seem like you do a lot of internal thinking. >> there's a lot going on out there. >> bob, do you talk to yourself? >> do i talk to myself? whenever i talk to conservatives i'm talking to myself because i don't really pay any attention what they are saying. >> i can tell. >> i just get out what i -- i

talk to myself, well, when i was drinking a lot, i used to talk to myself a whole lot. >> did you answer yourself too? >> i couldn't remember what i said too. >> that's called delirium tremens. >> i do talk to myself. i say yeah, awesome. i think it's important to build yourself up. there's a lot of people chipping away at you. i say to myself what would my dad say to me like this. i say it outloud or think about it. it's motivational. >> you know who talks to himself a lot, greg gutfeld. he's sing to himself. what am i going to eat tonight for dinner? little "the five" secrets revealed. >> i'm scared picturing beckle

saying these things outloud. >> it would be really scary. it's nice to be on the show today on memorial day to come in and as you said you wanted to get away from your wife anyway. >> oh, god. it's become a thing now. >> i told you -- >> you opened it up, buddy. >> i got beckle twice. >> he got beckle twice. >> what's your line about the shovel? up next, can you still make a good living in america without a college degree? bobs got a list of jobs that pay pretty well without a college diploma. res are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer

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day special. a lot of college grads just got their diplomas but now the important thing is how do you get a job? in the real world, that's really tough. there's 25 occupations that only require a high school diploma. purchasing agents, cop, building inspectors and the executive producer of the five who does exceedingly well and never got out of the eighth grade. >> oh, my gosh. terrible. >> i think there's a lot to be said about this. the amount of student debt you have, you can put a airline mechanic on there. >> there are jobs -- you can go out of high school go to trade schools, electricians, plumbers make insane amount of money. if you think they don't, try and hire a plummer.

sometimes it's up wards of $80, $100 an hour. those are professions and trades that frankly america needs and spending four years in college and racking up $100, 000, $200,000 in debt isn't going to help you much. >> $100 an hour? >> are you thinking about changing professions? >> no. >> i think you should go to college here, but if you go to the oil and gas areas up in the dakotas, you can make $90,000 a year, with no high school diploma. >> you won live out there. >> no. >> you wouldn't make it. you can go out to gas rigs in the gulf, you can make more money than that. >> i like his idea.

you've got to be recession-proof. >> i know what you could do. >> so could i? you open for the management position? >> management aka -- never mind. >> aka -- andrea you were a waitress and you made a fortune doing that. you didn't have a college degree doing that? >> when i was in a teen years, not as a got older and i think it's a good transitional career to have. it paid a lot of bills in college when i was going through scho think a lot of people think that they have to go to college and if they don't have a four-year danger and they -- degree, they are not going to make anything of themselves. that's not necessarily true. college has become one of the biggest stick-ups to parents and parents feel like they have to pay these exorbitant tuition

rates, there are plenty of technical schools and nursing schools. not everybody should feel the pressure if it's not for them to go to school. you can go to technical schools. there's a ton of other options. >> vocational schools. >> guidance counsellors when i was in school, never gave kids these specific items. >> i was a women's studies major. i was a history major. >> when did you get married? >> when did i get married? >> right out of college. >> no, i was single for a while. i was a bellman at a hotel. when an attractive woman got out of a car, i grabbed her bags. she would stand at the doorway and she would hand me my tip and i would go is there anything else? and they would receiver say

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>> all right. it's time now for one more thing, a special one more thing for memorial day and i would like to share with you corporal william kyle carpenter who will be receiving the medal of honor next month. he will be the 8th living recipient to receive this highly esteemed honor for his services as a u.s. marine in southern afghanistan. we want to commend him for his service and the sacrifice that his family has made while he is serving our great country. >> all right. very nice. andrea. >> well, this isn't exactly memorial day-related. it is related to you, bob. let's hope you never have to go to brightton, michigan.

now if you swear there, the fine is $200. anybody caught with a foul mouth, you will get a ticket. >> you get a ticket for swearing. >> what are those idiots are thinking of? >> a friend of his was skateboarding, he cursed and got a ticket. >> yeah. what are you going to say? oo 0 h. >> you can solve our budget problems, if they fined you for swearing, bob, we could solve all of new york city's background budget problems. >> eric bolling is up next. >> we love the music on the five, the play list, the stones, air aerosmith, tom petty, heart breakers, announced a new tour

in san diego october 3rd and ending in los angeles. >> motley crue is touring and fleetwood mac. >> how about the dixie cups? >> dixie chicago's. >> -- chicks. >> no, dixie cups. >> bob. >> actually, this is directly related to memorial day. i would urge all of you who are out there drinking and having a good time, please don't drive. a lot of people do that on memorial day and end up dead and i don't want to see that happen to any of you out there. i want to apologize my cold and interrupting most of my show with it. you have to be careful. get somebody else to drive. you don't have to drive if you are drinking. somebody can take the car and

drive it for you. >> that's a very important point. >> if you want to make some extra money during holidays, be the designated driver. have your friends give you $20 and make a little on the side. >> it's really important. there's so many unnecessary fatalities. >> so a lot of people taking selfies on memorial day. i think there's a lot of variations of the selfie now. we have a few we would like to share with you guys today. this is the felfie. this is the farmer selfie. this is the shelfie. then we have bob's personal favorite, the belfie. that is the butt selfie. >> does bill o'reilly take

shelfies of the books? >> that is it for us. we want to thank you all of our service members and veterans today. we hope you all have a great holiday and we'll see you back here tomorrow and special report is next. >> good evening, i'm shannon bream, in for bret baier. this is a fox news alert. nigerian's defense minister said they have located the 300 girls who were being held by islamic extremists. he says he will not use force to try to get them back. american officials have not independently confirmed this report out of nigeria. >> back here at home on the day america remembers the men and women who gave their lives in defense of the country, many of those who survived their military service continue to receive substandard care or no care at all. we have team coverage on