i'm william devane. this is "red ing on william devane and this is "red eye." >> is the search for big foot finally over? we have the footage that proves he is not only real, but loves to photo bomb tv interviews. and what does the vice president really think about people who put mayonaise on frefn fries 1234*. >> there are some sick people in the world. and why won't cats let. >> law flown players -- xylophone players play in peace? none of these stories on "red eye." >> and let's welcome our guests. they wrote a musical based on andy's apartment. one of the characters is called rompus cat.

i am here with imogen lloyd webber. >> imogen! >> thanks, saw rod. she will chew you up and spit you out. it is joe app know saw chin -- joanne nosuchunsky. >> jojo. >> and don't let his expression fool you. it is andy levey. >> ando. >> and he is one of my favorite. >> back in the building. >> let me introduce you to one of my five favorite canadians. the other four are taken by alex trebek. it is comedian sherrod small. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> greg, if i just keep talking for a full hour, does that mean you won't do the show? >> yes.

>> thank you for that, sherrod. >> you are only going to be here for one block. >> and i am going to make it a full block. >> all right, let's get to the news. it is for prevention of unwanted attention. the so-called subway dress keeps creeps from entering your personal space. it is designed to slowly expand when it detects someone is getting too close and creating what is called a frock block. if only that was taped. >> that will work. the artist behind the dress says it is, quote, intended to

promote conversation not only about social issues, but -- oh who care what's she says. you know who doesn't respect personal space? baby monkeys. >> that is terrible. you know what happened next? something awful. where was the hero cat? awful that? >> when you saw this dress did you think it was about time? >> yes, i thought, finally i can take the 6 train in comfort without being rubbed up against. first of all, how is that going to help get a creep off

of you by pushing against his crotch with a device? let me push this in and away from me. >> you think it won't work? >> it won't work. i think it it is a qiewt look for -- cute look for you ladies. >> is this practical? what if men are turned on by this sort of thing? it is cumbersome for the subway. >> precisely that. i love a statistic, as you know, and it took at least five minutes of googling to find the sexual harassment statistics. 63% of people in new york have been sexually harassed on the subway apparently. >> does that include men? >> yeah. the last comprehensive survey. it is obviously a big problem. this is not the solution. >> what train should the man go on if they want to be harassed like this? >> anywhere near the west village. >> never mind then. >> joanne, when you are on the subway you beg for attention,

so this isn't for you, is it? >> no. i have my stank face on so that is like my big dress. >> your train face. it is a little of of a jaw and a little bit of -- >> that just tells people to stay away. if you want a device, that will work. something that emits smell is so much better. the subway cars with no one on it, you know not to go on those because there is someone smelly in there. >> did a homeless guy's foot just die? >> sometimes it means somebody left a little gift. >> exactly. that's why when i am waiting for the subway and i take the subway every day because i am a normal person like you. >> how do you get home? >> i take a car. in the mornings though i am a regular guy and at night i am important.

but in the morning -- anyway i look and i see the windows. there is nobody in that car and you know. you know there is something that happened in there that came out of someplace that smells like [bleep]. it is called an anus. >> your whole day is a success. you saw it on a train. >> exactly. >> it is groundhog day. andy, will this dress be able to stop somebody like you or slow you down? >> not really. for me it is touching the fabric and not the person. we all have our fetishes. don't judge me. if they could develop a pants version, i would wear them. anything a horny dude is wearing . >> i would wear the dress version too so that doesn't work. this is dumb. in that video they show an empty subway car, but in new york most of the time the subway cars are super crowded and you can't do that. you have no choice -- >> it is everybody. >> the only thing you can do when you get home is take an hour long shower.

>> you are pushing against the dude coming too close, but you will push somebody in the back and they are like, stop pushing me. >> the artist did say though that this is not really supposed to work. it is supposed to provoke a conversation. how do you have a conversation when you are trying to distance yourself from people? >> can we stop trying to provoke conversations? >> this dress is begging for an up skirt shot. >> you would think of that. >> it is like what do you want from me, dress? oh i got it. >> you always blame the dress. >> women, you take the subway every day in new york. >> actually i walk. >> that's your tip. >> i try and avoid the subway. it smells, as we have been discussing. >> they say smells, but never say how it smells. some people like that smell. >> some smell better than others. >> that is true. >> sometimes it is like that is urine.

>> glad we nailed that down. is mark afraid of the dark -- streets. it is part of the award-winning series -- >> is this racist? >> dallas mavericks owner mark cuban created fire works among board people with the remarks he made on bigotry in tennessee, an actual state on wednesday. he was asked about l.a. clippers owner donald sterling. he said there is no law against stupid and then talked about his own prejudices. then he expanded on it with inc magazine. i don't know what that stands for. they also sponsored the conference. >> we all are prejudice in one way or the other. if i see a black kid in a hoodie and it is late at night, i am walking to the other side of the street. if on that side of the street there is a guy that has tattoo all over his face, white guy, bald head, tattoo everywhere, i am walking back to the other

side of the street. the list goes on of stereo types that we all live up to and are fearful of. >> he does a lot of walking across the street. and then there is a giant elephant with tusks. >> i am crossing the street and then there is a sabre tooth tiger and i'm like, whoa. yes, i am a bigot, but i don't want to get eaten by a tiger. >> i think he just takes a lot of drugs. a unicorn was on that side of the street. >> he is like a frightened ping-pong ball. what does this cat think of cuban's comments? >> we are all prejudice in one way or the other. if i say -- if i see a black kid in a hoodie and it is late at night, i am walk together other side of the street. >> go ahead, sherrod, say it. you were asleep, weren't you? >> first of all, mark cuban

cat tau gore rickly said bigotry is wrong and racism is wrong. but we have to have a conversation. there was too much correlation with trayvon. he didn't say that, but he tweeted to the parents and apologized. he talked to my wall -- michael will bonn on "pti." but the other scrooge mcducks won't say anything. they don't want people to know who i am. >> he has the guts that said something that could get him in trouble. >> it is a positive way to start the conversation and good for mark cuban. >> you said he didn't go far enough. he should have said it is okay to hate other races. >> i have been in america now for four years. you don't really appreciate the white british girl talking about racism in america. it doesn't really work. so anything i say right now everybody is going to hate. >> that's true. >> i know this.

>> brits invented racism. >> you are straight from the factory white. you are straight from the factory. you have the new white smell and it annoys me. >> new white smell? is that what i have been smelling? >> all i can say is every survey that has come out, millenials are color-blind. so this is going to go. this problem will go. this whole racism will die off. >> people say it is becoming less and less of of an issue which is a shame, joanne. >> i will say the hoodie thing because i could be in a hoodie and that's not a bad life choice. you have tattoos on your face you are bad. that part i couldn't -- gite bad life choice is mark cuban saying to his audience, warning them, i am about to go full mark cuban on you.

anyone who starts with that has offended me. how is that okay? >> by the way, when did that start? i am about to go full -- >> when they start saying turned up. >> i understand what he is saying. walking down the street you might feel threatened, but that is based on your own personal experiences. you are not supposed to say them out loud. for me, i just don't trust anyone because i am a woman who walks on the streets of new york city. i trust no one. >> say i am a black dude who wants to rob mark cuban i will put on a nice suit and then beat him to death. you judged a book by the cover. >> i wouldn't trust a black man in a suit with a baseball bat. >> how do you know what is the bat and what is me? >> sherrod, i would think by the collar. >> in a dark alley you are

running. >> where does this go? we can take a serious topic -- >> andy, i'm sure you think cuban should be banned for life now too. just like sterling. just leak how you felt about sterling. an american icon. >> he has a couple of good points. saying everyone has their prejudices, how do you argue with that? how do you say that's not a thing. i don't get the hoodie thing. people wear the hoodies, everybody wears the hoodies. >> they sell the hoodies at the clippers game. >> it doesn't matter i don't get it. he was being honest about his prejudices. i don't understand going after him on this. we keep hearing that we need a national conversation on race, but then they don't want somebody to be honest? the people that want the

conversation? >> you know what drives me nuts about this? the articles i read about him getting under fire and also apologizing they kept saying due to social media critics. what they are describing are tweets. people don't understand -- >> how do you become a social media critic? >> go on twitter and say i demand you apologize. >> that's the problem with twitter is it is so easy to take things out of context. it is impossible to deal with it. people on twitter will be able to -- >> it sounds like me 20 years ago saying i won't do twitter. then i found out how powerful it was. they love it? i will use it to death. >> but it is like apologizing to a cloud. the cloud moved and dissipates and finds another outrage. i don't understand -- >> who controls the cloud controls the world, greg. >> you know what controls it? our short attention spans and the jews. >> when will this die down? >> it is scheduled to die down

at 4:00 p.m. >> and what will we replace this with? >> we haven't decided. we are meeting after the show. we might take the weekend. it is a holiday weekend. either late monday night or early tuesday morning we will have something. >> time for this. she taught the fourth grade, but her favorite subject was herself. a new new york city substitute teacher has been fired after she soughtlationshir class. according to investigators 45-year-old -- she is cute, cassandra asked students to help her choose between two men she was dating. they told her to break up with the younger one because he hadn't returned her phone calls. typical. she tells dna info that the conversation was harmless and done in fun. quote, the kids were saying, oh we are your counselor. they were excited to have me listen to their advice. they said all kinds of things trying to help me because this guy was buying a jerk. was being a jerk. this is not the first time she

was the subject of media coverage. >> when you run, we'll be there. wbz and the boston marathon. >> why is she teaching if she is to talented? and she has been in a stable relationship in the past. >> can you do me a favor and pick up julie from her friend's house? >> did i mention i called wood's heating to service our boiler. >> their hours are so convenient. their cap program protects us from rising prices. >> i think i am in love with her. i am not afraid to say that and i fall in love easily. >> i love commercials where the actors give you information. those are the best. >> immogen, should she have been fired? >> it is a sensible idea to ask 9 and 10-year-olds about your love life.

of course it was a really stupid thing to do. you never talk about your love life in a professional setting. i was on imus the other day. >> his radio show? >> yes. >> just wanted to be clear. >> exactly. my exboyfriend texted me. it always goes wrong. >> what did the exboyfriend say? >> we won't go into that. >> what, mr. trump? >> what is your name, sherrod? >> it is bonn. -- it is bonnie mcfarland. >> she has broken up with both boy friend. >> some of these kids have date themselves. >> they are not going. >> they are not dating. she should have been asking for parenting advice. >> what about the kids with the grand parents?

>> it is funny how we can laugh at new york's misery. joanne, she had two boyfriends and you have none. isn't that the real injustice, or is it totally -- i would have given her different advice. the kids tell her to break up, but the one who wouldn't call her back? no, that means he likes you. you are supposed to go to his work and wait outside until he comes out. probably bring him flowers. why would you go to kids who still wet themselves when you can come to me? >> that's true. joanne often goes to places of work of people she perceives as dating. and then the security comes. you never met them. >> i just got confused. >> andy, last word to you. is she guilty of talking

incessantly of her relationship. >> it was probably that time of the month. >> he is fore shadowing another story. >> this is inappropriate, but she said it was g-rated. i don't know if she needs to be fired. they can just warn her. were you were growing up, can you picture any teacher ever contemplating doing something like this? >> at least they didn't sleep with them. what is the world coming to says angry guy? >> maybe her heart wasn't in it. >> maybe firing was the best thing she could hope for. she is a great actress. >> she has a nice rack. >> she has to keep away from the children. >> it is good for the oxygen channel. >> that's what i was thinking. >> i know. i know you like a book. >> coming up, our galaxy combined with andromeda.

but you have some time. first, do you want to be in the new "star wars" movie? i didn't think so, but we're doing the story anyway.

does a visit from flow mean you don't have to go -- to work that is. it is my time of the month is a great excuse to get out of gym class. i used it twice a month, but does it work in the workplace? they tackled the topic of paid menstrual leave. here is rebecca watson. >> just by asking the question should women get paid menstruation leave, it biases the listener to say of course not. you are talking about special

treatment. if you say should men get paid time off if they get kicked in the tess tau cals -- testicles, yes. if you have a medical problem you should get to take time off. >> wow, she doesn't look like a feminist blogger at all. great glasses. then they brought in another expert. >> he is for it. >> you know who doesn't have time for this debate? this hamster. >> i don't know if that was a

hamster or a rat. no there will be no richard gere joke in that. bonnie, how are you, darlin? >> good. >> the seat is still warm. yes, sherrod. >> bonnie had a problem with her car. >> what do you make of this story? do you think that the menstruation is a good enough excuse to take off of work? >> i like to call it blood diamonds in my panties. isn't that better? it flows nicer. >> can we try to keep this somewhere in the realm of sophisticated news talk? >> as we always do. >> it is a sexist term though. it has men in it. it should be woman-struation. >> don't have a joke for that. >> every woman has a little man in her.

>> at some point we have all had a man and it is unfortunate. >> i agree, i agree wholeheartedly and also i have a weak pre menstruation and then the week of the actual menstruation, and then there is the week after where i have to clean all of my undies. >> shut up! i am erasing my brain. she has a point. >> do i? >> the point is i will work very hard for three or four days. >> a lot of people have the pms. wow i sound like an expert.

the pms. >> this is the most ridiculous topic i have ever done on this show. 10% of women have serious problems with their periods. but it it should be paid sick leave like everybody else. you have back problems and everybody has paid sick leave. but this story is ridiculous. >> it bothers you. >> yes. and i am a card carrying feminist. >> i don't carry any cards, but i am a fan of taking advantage of a -- i don't know, of rules. i would like this to be a rule. everyone gets more time off. they should take this one step further and provide free birth control to all women because it is known that the pill will lessen the effects of the woman's period. >> really? >> yes.

it helps with the cramps and all of those things. give me my free birth control. >> the majority of women actually take birth control for other things apart from 6. it is good for osteoporosis. >> did we turn into a morning health show. i am starting to get really board. really bored. the woman blogger compared menstruation to getting kicked in the groin. does she have a point? >> no. you say does women have paid menstrual leave, you say no, go to work. >> they are all stay at home dads. >> you are a card carrying feminist. >> i am. they tried to change this into they are trying to get more paid leave. >> there -- one woman said

most for one reason or another need a couple days off in a given month. what she means is most people want a couple days off in a given month. we live in entitlement world and that is the same thing to her. >> thank you for man-splaining this. >> people have a couple of days a month where they are not feeling great and they want to stay home. most drag themselves into work and make it through the day. this is a separate issue. if they want to talk about paid menstrual leave talk about that. don't talk about the fact that everybody wants days off. >> we have to move on. coming up, porn stars and condoms. first a word from our sponsor. >> tonight is sponsors bly bladinky. step jump over before they are glerk. drop pellets are sold separately. thanks,

all right, wearing a sheet gives them grief. it is a terrible rhyme, but it is clean. on tuesday a delegation of porn stars traveled to sacramento which is in california to protest the state law that would require condom use in adult films. never seen one. the group on golden pond -- that is a porn film. it says it forces them to make videos that look a certain

way, ie, condom free. porn star laura lee, lee called it insulting andpaternal. they said it does not sell and as a result will force productions to go underground which is less safe for the performers. should the government make rubbers a requirement? let's run a question train. the british have pornography, but no free speech. how do you deal with an esh you like this? >> so you have a statistic for imus and then you wing it here? >> sometimes. 70% of men watch porn. 30% of women watch porn. i don't because it just makes me feel unhappy that young girls have their first sexual experience with little boys who saw porn. >> so that's your statistics? >> the porn stars have a

point, free speech. it is america. >> bonn ?ee? >> i -- bonn me? >> i hate porn. i don't like it. i mean the money was great. then i don't like all of the hair removal. it is time-comsuming. >> it really is. that's another problem with pornography. the fascination with -- well, go ahead. >> free speech says -- i don't know if i am the only one who thinks this, but the last group i want talking are porn stars. >> some are quite intelligent. >> oh sure. >> but life choices sometimes don't dictate that orie -- or reflect it. >> i want to see them do what they do best which is not acting. i don't know. i don't know why the government wants to regulate multimillion-dollar industries that object tau fie women and puts them at risk. leave them alone.

>> the arangement -- the argument for free speech said it would change the work. >> i feel like so long as they are healthy and consenting adults then it is fine. they might be encroaching on some of their rights there, but what i thought was interesting was the porn star that said the bill was paternalistic, isn't the whole industry paternalistic. >> would you know where those are? >> i have a collection. >> andy, if you outlaw not wearing condoms, only outlaws won't wear the condoms. >> if i could high five you i would. how do you enforce this? do you send somebody to the set to wawmp every -- to watch every scene or watch them once they are made? i think the legislators are like if we pass this law we with i will have to watch the scenes. >> over and over. >> back in january numbers

came out that the making of porn in los angeles county declined. 48 permits were -- 480 permits were applied for and in 201324. it is going to las vegas. there is no condom law in las vegas. what they are doing is saying to the l.a. porn industry, that's a wrap. >> ladies and gentlemen, andy levy. using saw ties sticks to a whit -- using statistics to a white end. it was cold feet in golf feet. rory mcilroy, what a great name, called off the marriage to danish tennis pro. anyway, he called off the wedding just a few days after mailing out the invitations. mcilroy explains the problem is mine. well, not really. the wedding invitations made

me realize i was not ready for all that marriage entails. makes sense, the postage can be overwhelming. he may seem like a schmuck, but did he do her a favor by doing it now? >> i will get to that. first of all -- i keep doing that firstful -- first of all. he is an i idiot. all he has to do all day long is walk from hole to hole thinking. he couldn't figure it out. yes, she dodged a bullet. nobody wants to be married to somebody who will be golfing all the time. >> so you are saying you don't want to be married to a man? >> well i have been married for awhile now, so yes. it is for idiots and it is a dumb sport. even the terms they have is like, oh what are we gonna call when you are one under par. a birdie.

it makes no sense. what are you going to call it if a ball will hit somebody in the head? fore. is it is ridiculous -- it is ridiculous stuff. >> it is so sexist. it makes me ill. >> it is like oh knitting is gross. i hate to knit. >> i will defend knitting. >> knitting is their therapeutic. should she be angry or relieved? >> both. he said there is no right way to end a relationship. what he did was the definition of the wrong way to end a relationship. you had two years to figure it out. that was before the ring on the finger thing to figure out this was not the right relationship. he will go down as textbook man for cold feet. every time in the media moving forward -- >> they will call it the mcilroy. >> you know the right way? you sleep with their father.

>> that happened in "star wars," right? >> it is what i have always done. >> no sleep with their father. joe app, this is a -- joanne, this is a disgusting topic because your relationships never get this far. >> they are young. she is 23 and he is 25. i think what happened, he proposed new year's eve. it has only been four and a half months since they -- she hired a wedding planner and she is like i am getting this done. he thought he was going to have a long engagement and you will be playing in the open so it will be a few years. he is like, crap, there is a date set. this is terrifying. i am never sleeping with another woman again. that would terrify me. >> he is a professional golfer. he never thought that.

andy, carolyn, the tennis pro has a date coming up, a tournament i am told in my ear. do you think this break up will affect her performance or make her a better player? >> i don't think it will do either. i think she is a professional and will rise above and will get knocked out in the third round. you sort of eluded to this. this is better than continuing to be engaged. it is better than calling it off on the wedding day and it is better than going through with the wedding. >> better than getting two years into the marriage. >> it is a douchey thing to do. >> at least there is no public shame. >> we have no idea what lead to this. as a men's rights activist i have to point out this is probably her fault. as a golfer if he wants to go from hole to hole --

>> oh andy! >> i disagree with all of you. everyone gets cold feet. he could have ridden it out and had super tennis playing golfing kids and they would have been beautiful, but he blew it. time to take a break. we have more stuff to talk about. "not cool" if you haven't ordered not cool. two chicks wearing something cool. that's my jacket and that's my face. pull on it and put your finger in it. oh look over there. that's me too. this is great. i can do this for of. -- i can do this forever.

should having dough mean a cameo? that's the subject of tonight's -- >> "red eye" debate 2014, live from the" red eye qats debate center. >> tonight's "red eye" debate from the" red eye" debate center. we are broadcasting from tatooing. as a reminder turn off all cell phones and light sabres and thermal detonators. jj abrams is offering a chance to appear in the film. but you have to pay to play. he is asking for a contribution to the children's charity unicef for return to a

entry into a prize draw. the winner will appear in the new "star wars" film. forget the prequels. bonnie, does this explain how keanu got a career? >> he is wonderful. i think rich people should have more opportunity than anyone else. if you have money you should be able to -- this is not the first thing where they -- there are restaurants where you have to pay to cook your own meal. have you ever been to one of those? >> i don't know what you are talking about. what if they care more about the movie than the kids. should that matter? >> as long as the kids get lots of money. this is happening all the time they had 14,000 movie projects where they got enough money and there were all sorts of stuff like merchandise and being a cameo. it is here to stay.

>> it is statistic lady. jay if this continues you could have a shot at getting a role in a lifetime movie probably playing yourself. >> for the children. >> they can't watch my films. >> really what would be cheaper? the more money you donate the more entries you have to be pulled from so you can win your cameo. it is cheaper to purchase a flight to lon deer where they are shooting -- london where they are shooting. you will get tased, but it is a great story to tell. >> it is, weird stalker girl. there is some debate on who donated first. >> is there a joke? hahn donated first. there is as interesting

disclosure and thought every one is going to make the final cut. they are taking every measure possible it makes it to the movie. and a little trick for you cheap people out there there is a pace called freal turnive it method of entry where you add your name and info and you get an entry. >> screw the kids. that's terrible, andy. you make me sick to my stomach. >> i don't like the phrase screw the kids. >> i didn't mean it that way. do not take it out of context. i was being sarcastic. coming up, the nfl playoffs, an important topic for -- well, for all of us really.

coming up tomorrow, sonny johnson returns and so does ron. >> e block. last story. that's the last story. >> they got a plan to expand. roger goodell said in a press conference this week he expects the league to add two more playoff teams to the 201 fie season. 201 fie season. they riel add a third wild card team for each conference

bringing the total of number of teams to 14. while the partners love the idea some say the move will dilute the high quality product we come to expect from january football. all right, andy, unlike me you were actually against this. tell me why. >> i am opposed to it and i will say of course i will watch the games. that's why they are doing it. people will watch. they are building the baseball field and people will come. it is more money for the owners and the tv partners. it is a no lose proposition for them. the fact is you will have two teams that are not that good in the post season and that's bad. >> you have 14 playoffs in a 32-team league that eliminates more than half of the teams. >> the thing 1* what you are doing is you are diluting -- you are diluting the importance of the regular season games. for example, hockey because so many teams make the playoffs i don't even watch during the regular season because each game doesn't matter that much. >> will this allow the average teams to get hot at the right time a chance to win it all and even your precious giants

won the super bowl after going 9-7. they were barely above 500. >> two things about the super bowl giants, they may have been 9-7, but they won their division. the time before that they were the wild card team at 10-6. both times you can argue it was god's plan, greg. both times they beat satan's team. i don't believe this new proposal is god's plan. >> there was once a proposal to make it 18 games. why not bring that back? >> if they go to more games i will watch it. i am a fan. but thinking about how prevalent the injuries are, are you running a risk for players including your superstars that they won't be there for the playoffs or the super bowl. >> the owners get more money in the expanded playoffs. how is that a bad thing? >> i answered that, greg. >> if all people want is something to do on sunday in the winter and the nfl provides that, this is a way to give america more. >>. >> yes, that's the part i am

not in favor of. >> should we have more pre-season games? >> nobody wants more pre-season games. the players don't want more pre-season games. nobody watches the games. they are done. >> that's interesting. i have run out of questions about the topic. >> have i to say honestly this -- i have to say this is the best panel i have been a part of. we talked about a very important subject and we really -- there was no filler. >> there was no filler. >> can i get either of you a sandwich? >> i would love a sandwich. thanks, hon. she is a darling. special thanks to imogen lloyd webber and tv's andy levy and webber and tv's andy levy and bonnie mcfarland. ahhh. webber and tv's andy levy and bonnie mcfarland. beautiful day in baltimore where most people probably know that geico could save them money on car insurance, right? you see the thing is geico, well, could help them save on boat insurance too. hey! okay...i'm ready to come in now.

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