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would you click on someone's picture if they had a tiger? jon: he is recently divorced. maybe it is working for him. jenna: delete. that's what i say. delete. jon: i'll put up a photo of winston. see you next hour. jenna: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." today's one lucky guy, chief white house correspondent ed henry and he's outnumbered. all right. >> i'm excited about this. i'm not scared of you guys, by the way. i've been outnumbered before. i don't know if you've seen the white house briefing. >> in d.c., right? press corps. >> no fear of you. i'm a little scared of you. you're the pit bull prosecutor. you and i are close so i'm not worried about it. we've anchored before so i'm not
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scared. >> be scared. >> you're going to be all right. you're in good hands. you're in good hands. just a short time ago, we learned that president obama is expected to announce at 2:45 p.m. a plan for the u.s. to keep nearly 10,000 krotroops in afghanistan after the war formally ends later this year. he's coming under fire from his critics at home and abroad for his handling of foreign policy. and as he gets set to speak to west point's graduating class tomorrow, meantime, the latest fox poll finds most americans souring on the president's handling of foreign affairs with only 39% approval. while that's a rebound from march's record low of 33%, it's still well below the president's record high of 49% from 18 months ago. and it's not just americans who are disappointed in the u.s. role abroad. even one of america's biggest allies appears to be taking a shot at the president. so we're going to talk to ed henry about this. the man who famously took on the
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soviets before the berlin wall fell and eventually became president of poland says the u.s. is not leading like a super power. he's telling the associated press, quote, the point is not in having the state's fixed problems for us or fights somewhere. no. the states should organize us, organize us and offer programs while we, the world, should do the rest. this kind of leadership is needed. now, the a.p., what he'll say to mr. obama when the president visits poland next month, quote, i will say either you want to be a super power and guide us or you should give the super power to poland and we will know what to do with it. amen. those are pretty strong statements. very bold, provocative statement, in fact, from poland. how do you see this? welcome to the program. >> thank you. i'm going to be in poland with the president on that trip and i think clearly, the stakes are set big time for him tomorrow at west point here in new york. he's giving a speech at the commencement address and the stakes are high for him. part of the reason he's talking
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tomorrow is that when i asked him that question in manila in april about what is the obama doctrine, he said we don't want a lot of singles and doubles. i'm not the president of the yat. you have to aim higher. so i think he's been on defense. he sees this as an opportunity to go on offense. >> i would say this. i read the tic-toc on the president's agenda this past weekend. i thought he was going to speak tomorrow. now he's speaking today. am i wrong about this? >> what happened over the weekend, he took the secret trip for memorial day to afghanistan to thank the troops but also there was a mishap at the white house where they let out the name of a c.i.a. official and they tried to pull that back because it was a mistake. mation from the military but obviously someone in the press office should have caught that. there's fears for the c.i.a.
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official's life. >> how does that happen? >> there's a screwup. >> what a mistake to be made. >> what the president does by talking today, he shifts the topic to we're keeping 9800 troops in afghanistan instead of the story by the c.i.a. >> he tries to make news before that comes out and they strongly urged us, we're not going to talk about that. >> they put it out to the press corps and then the pool and it goes out to several thousand reporters. >> 6,000. >> it's just so wreckless and grossly incompetent to me. how can you have any confidence if you're serving abroad with an administration that's just like sloppy, like who is that intern and did they get their popcorn all over that form, too? it's just like amateur hour. >> that shouldn't be in the hands of an interp. that should be overlooked by a senior official by it's released to 6,000 journalists across the
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country and across the globe. but you know, as we hit here, kimberly, you're talking about more speeches. the speech that he's about to make at west point, that's not foreign policy. a republican from tennessee recently said, one of the problems with the white house is that they view speeches as foreign policy. they don't really see the need to follow through on any of those words. >> i think the white house would push back on that by saying, look. they're talking to iran, trying to get a nuclear deal. if it falls apart, yeah. less action, more talk. that's a problem. syria, the chemical weapons, some are being turned over. if that works out, that will be a big win for the white house but you're right. >> president obama said before that we weren't going to have any troops in afghanistan after 2014. >> he talked about that possibility. >> right. and now talking about leaving 9,000 plus troops there. we have to look at their role. training afghan forces. we've had a problems with president hamid karzai in coming to an agreement and i think it's important to point out we need to look at what our troops are
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doing there. we've seen a loft violence coming from the troops against our troops. i'm concerned about the safety of our troops staying there and what their role is going to be. >> we're going to carry the president's remarks live on afghanistan on fox news and now this. an excerpt is out from hillary clinton's new book. she talks about serving as secretary of state, mentions her faith in the future. but doesn't bring up a presidential run. there's a small group of democrats that is increasingly wary of another hillary clinton campaign. karl rove, former senior adviser to president george w. bush and fox news contributor said her problem could be a perception of inevitability and relying too much on nostalgia. >> she's talking about how good things were when bill was in office, when bill was in office, the economy was better. to some degree, it helps her but it also hurts her because it makes her look like yesterday. it's all about what happened back there in the 1990's.
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we're 20 years past the point at which bill clinton was elected president. in american politics there's a sense that you want to be new, that you don't want to be too familiar, you don't want to be something old and stale z. >> does he have a point? >> i think he does. we have democrats left over from the 2008 election and have buyer's remorse. she has that going for her. on the other hand, when it comes to the democratic base, hillary clinton has a long record. we're talking 20 years plus here of a political record in washington, d.c., at the state department. the state department spokesperson, you know, that embarrassing moment of her being asked to name one thing that hillary clinton has accomplished and she couldn't do it. so she has a long track record for not only just republicans if they were to get the nomination to attack but the base and it's going to be very difficult for her to get that very far left base, which is the base that gets out the vote, the base that
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organizes when she has connections to wall street and they don't think she's liberal enough. i think that will be a huge problem for her. and a lot has changed since then. you know, sin the clinton presidency. 9/11, the worst financial crisis since the great depression. is it fair for her to even make comparisons to the clinton years and how they could act today? >> i suspect that the clinton campaign is going to say what you just said. who is more ready to deal with that? she was secretary of state, a senator, reaching across the aisle. she worked with john mccain. now there's going to be republicans that say that's why they don't like john mccain and he was hanging out with hillary clinton too: she's going to step up and say who has a better resume than her? karl rove's point is if that works, she would have won the nomination in 2008. people are tired of experience on paper but she didn't connect with voters in 2008. barack obama did. >> the media cannot stop talking about her. >> she's out in front. i think it's a lightning rod.
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whenever somebody's name is what you focus on, there really isn't anybody standing out like she is and she's the biggest name right now. i have a question about this, though. we talk about young voters. you never want your exam pain to be compared to moldy bread, old and stale. >> even birds don't want that at the park. >> how do you message around that to try to scoop up a younger voter? >> you're right. this is going to be the problem for her. she'll be 69 years of age, like reagan and there was an issue about john mccain and his health. those are all going to be ripe issues that people are going to have to consider. plus since that campaign, think about it. she started running. it will be almost nine years when you add the time before campaign, obama doing two terms, that is a considerable amount of time and then they'll look at benghazi and there will be questions about that and her level of competency, the role she played in it, the talking points, all of that is going to stick. it's tough for her. get youthful, invigorated, fresh
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ideas. >> and katie, to kimberly's.rove said that people don't want somebody who is already made. they want a scrapper, somebody who they can believe in. they want to pick the dog in the fight. >> i think they want someone new. hillary clinton has a long track record and she'll be held accountable for a lot of things in the record but speaking in account jacket, at one government agency, everyone is getting a gold star. in an effort to avoid discrimination, the consumer protection bureau is doing away with employer ratings giving everyone the highest rating despite performance reviews. bureau says there were too many significant despairities between races and ages of employees. this will cost over $5 million because now all employees get paid as if they received the highest evaluation score. critics are calling this the opposite of fairness. kimberly, we have a major problem in the federal government with accountability and being able to fire someone.
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now we're just going to give everyone the same rating, same pay without any evaluation. >> somebody call in the kindergarten cop. i don't understand what's going on here. no wonder government is so incredibly lame. this is what is happening. don't americans deserve more? don't we pay dollar for dollar for better service than this? if your hairdresser cut your hair all uneven and it was all jacked up, you would switch. put somebody else in to do the job. >> the major problem here is instead of raising the bar and expecting employees to rise to a higher standard, they're willing to lower the bar for everyone which is very bad for business and doesn't allow anyone to hold officials accountable. >> can i just say in terms of slacking, you know, i came from d.c., got up at 4:00 a.m., 6:00 a.m. train and i got here at fox about 9:15 in the morning. >> slacker.
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>> okay. let me get to the slacking part. it involves the ladies. so jay, our producer, starts walking by and i said where are you going? i'm going to meet the ladies. we're going to chat about the stories. two minutes later i see him. they're not here yet. how did i go about 300 miles and beat you guys to work? i'm new here. i'm sorry. >> i've had on makeup since before you left d.c. >> you just never know. >> yeah. kimberly comes from the camp of stay ready so you don't have to get ready and i'm all about that. it's interesting to me, though. it's interesting. you decided to take your time on this issue and just throw down the gauntlet with us. let me tell you, sweetie. we're ready for that. >> that went really well for you. keep trying. >> you started the show with i'm close to harris and i'll say what i always say. stay close. >> what would you do if you saw
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>> welcome back to outnumbered and we let ed stick around for the rest of the show. for a third string quarterback, johnny manziel draws attention a a crowd. he made it rain vegas over the weekend with champagne. that video sparking outrage among his critics who say the 21-year-old needs to focus on his game instead of partying but manziel is firing back, posting this picture of the cleveland browns play book on instagram with the caption, guess it's impossible to enjoy the weekend and study? what's wrong with this? let's go to the guy here. 21 years old, a i didn't think he will guy, partying in vegas over the holiday weekend.
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>> people need to grow up a bit. he has to grow up a little bit and we'll talk about that but the critics have to grow up. his name is not johnny curing cancer. it's johnny football because he plays football. he's not a doctor. and he's getting paid a lot of money and people in cleveland are going to say that money goes to hard work and on the flip side, you know, in terms of criticizing johnny a bit, because i defended the idea he's not a doctor, saying people's lives, he's a football player. there's a lot of doubts in him in the draft which is why he kept plummeting. he may want to party less and get out there on the field. >> make it look like he's studying the play book. he got his ipad on. >> we'll see if he was studying but i think, look. he's 21. totally fine if he's in vegas partying but i think sometimes you want to be a top athlete, you have to make sacrifices. when you talk to the tony romos
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and the most successful nfl players out there, they're not out partying. it's all about his priorities. >> you name it party. >> it's all about priorities. if he wants to do that, fine. if he wants to go -- >> he tends to attract a lot of attention. this happened to him in college as well. now he's nfl, he's a professional. the terms are being used representing the franchise. perhaps he should do a little bit more to protect his name and his team's name. >> i think he should put on the uniform, show up in the field and show us something because that's why he got dumped down. you know, in the draft. so yes, he's a young guy, 21 but act like a professional. he's getting paid a lot of money. a lot of people whose jobs are riding on your performance and ability as well. he's showing up at avenue and at all these clubs in vegas and be like, yo, check me out. that's fine. but i want to see you throw the ball down field. i want sue hoe how -- to see how
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you do on third. >> he won a super bowl. it didn't matter. >> i would say this about it. you play like you practice. and until there's something to celebrate, why don't you not play like you're partying. i'm curious to see how he does for cleveland at the start of the season. the reports are he's not too hot at the first week of practice. it's only a week. it's early. we haven't seen gotten into summer yet but preseason will be here in a minute. >> i'm happy that he's going, whatever, but you play like you practice. bring your game and then sell brit when your game wins. >> he wasn't the only player in the club. >> but he's the only one without -- >> party boy is notorious for getting the nfl in trouble. >> and winning. >> but he has also won. >> katie wouldn't date this guy. put it that way.
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>> you wouldn't date johnny football? that's a different conversation. >> maybe in a couple of years but no thank you. >> she said no. first lady michelle obama making a rare move by putting herself right in the middle of a policy battle on capitol hill. is it the right role for the first lady? and house minority leader nancy pelosi making some interesting remarks about obamacare. why she's calling the controversial health care law beautiful. ugh. heartburn. did someone say burn? try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and are proven to taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. mmm. amazing. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews.
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republicans now have to get some ease to schools that find new rules by mrs. obama to be very expensive so they've put forth an alternative, if you speak out against the first lady, politically what does that get you? >> a boomerang. that's why they're putting the first lady out there. she's more popular than her husband right now and has been for some time. >> or any member of congress. >> yeah. and the republicans or democrats and the republicans run the risk of taking her on. in fairness, are these rules maybe a little too far? is the federal government cracking down? going after local and state? yeah. maybe it needs to be tweaked. on the other hand, among the obama controversies, the first lady trying to get her kids to eat less french fries and more vegetables is probably one of the less controversial bits so i think republicans have a hard time beating her up on it. >> but it's been expensive for schools. >> all this waiver program is looking to do is help out schools that are struggling the most. these school nutritionists are
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having a hard time, first, keeping the food on the plate and into the kid's mouths. you have the plate waste that everybody is talking about. then you actually have the economics of this that are failing. schools want waivers if their school lunch program has reported a loss for six straight months. that's a bad situation that a school lunch program is in. then you've got 90% of schools that are now reporting increased costs. so it's getting worse by the day. i want to quote rodney davis, republican from illinois. we want to do everything we can to fight childhood obesity but the schools are asking for flexibility rather than the top down approach coming from washington. they just want some flexibility because it's being forced down their throat right now. >> representative out of alabama has come up with this agriculture spending bill section that deals with this and what it's saying is that, you know, you'll be able to prove to us if you can, show that net loss after six months that this isn't working and we'll give you
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relief. this is a political issue and the first lady is in on it. is that complicated? >> i don't know that it is complicated. if you look at the government accountability office on this, 1.6 million students have completely dropped out of the school lunch program because it is this one size fits all policy. you have some kids who are going after lunch hungry because there's not enough food for high school football players and then people who maybe can't eat the kind of food they're offering. on the other hand, i think that michelle obama's focus here is misplaced. instead of going through the federal government to mandate what the kids should be eating, why isn't she encouraging parents to pack them a lunch that's less expensive and keeps the federal government out of it and it requires parents interact more with children. >> i want to get your thoughts on the school lunch program. your first thoughts. >> here is the position i'm coming from. love frozen pizza and hot pockets. that's just me. >> and your kid is beautiful. we know that works. you balance it with other meals.
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>> i feed him very well. i make his lunch. when he was at public school, he was like, mom, this lunch is disgusting. here's some broccoli. but you want the kids to be eating and enjoying what they're eating but a lot of kids when they're little are picky eaters. they're learning to develop a taste for food. we don't want to press the point where they're not getting enough caloricic intake. you have to do what is going to work best and let the schools kind of decide and give you the feedback. how are you going to make a better program if you're hutting the door to that kind of information, exchange and communication? >> i want to bring in now the p.t.a. president nationally because the national p.t.a. has been telling law makers, you can't take away mrs. obama's guidelines at this point and so we want to get their take on this. the president of the p.t.a. says at a time when families are working hard to live healthy lives, school meals should be supporting families' efforts, not working against them.
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it's hard to argue against that but this comes back down to choice. >> and you have to ask the question, are these meals healthier for kids? and based on the government's track record of telling us what to eat, they've been wrong a lot about what's the healthiest thing for us to eat so the statement saying we're somehow punishing families and not giving the healthiest options, i'm not sure the lunches they're offering are the healthiest options for every single kid. >> if you're not eating them, they're zero nutritional. >> then you get a skinny munch kin at home and that's frustrating for everybody. obamacare described as beautiful by nancy pelosi. she called the law an example of democrats' success. what? >> one evidence of government would be how we rolled out the affordable care act. it is intact. it's beautiful. as with everything, it's a work in progress. we need to improve it. but the website didn't work and
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now it's well. and go forward. >> you almost want to believe it the way she says beautiful. republicans don't agree. sorry. this week house conservatives will press their leaders to move on an obamacare replacement bill before the august recess. i see you nodding your head. >> well, i think what's more controversial than her saying it's beautiful, it's her saying it's impact. it's very much a junk ball right now even among the president's colleagues, you know, democrats who want this law to succeed. they're still not giving out all the numbers on how many people have to have paid in all of that. is it intact? we don't know. we have a long way from nancy pelosi saying we have to pass the bill to know what's in it to now saying it's beautiful and intact. i think in fairness, it is beautiful if you're somebody who did not have insurance before and democrats could make that case. >> no, no, no. >> 75% of obamacare enrollees
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are people who had insurance before. >> some people shifted around, yes. you have to admit some of these people are new. some of them. >> a tiny, tiny fraction. if nancy pelosi thinks they sign up for a plan that's worse with fewer doctors is a beautiful thing, then she has bigger problems. election time, people don't think democrats are proud of this, they're continuing to tell the american people as if they're stupid this say good thing for them and it's not good for them. >> if it is so beautiful, why are democratic colleagues not touting it on the midterm campaign trail right now? >> they're just trying to keep the beautifulness. is that even a word? a secret. if it is so beautiful, this is quite the theme, why does the president keep changing it sometimes by executive order? if it's that gorgeous -- >> 40 times. >> why do you need to keep tweaking it? beauty in the eye of the beholder but obviously the
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beholder doesn't think it's that fine. >> she's changed the conversation to saying the reason republicans aren't talking about obamacare anymore, although i don't know that's true, is because they want to focus on benghazi. they're distracting the conversation from the beautiful health care program that it is. she went on to say that everything is to obstruct the president. everything that's evidence based is unimportant to them and ed, if anybody were to look back at the past few months, past couple of years of looking at this law, you see the website didn't work, the premiums went up and people didn't get to keep their doctors. so really, what do you think she's touting is to beautiful here? >> lipstick on a pig. >> she's trying to point out there have been improvements for some people. there are also problems for some people. >> majority of people. the vast majority of people. >> i don't think we know yet but the point is we're not going to know before the midterms so it's very much a difficult issue for this president and that's why i think nancy pelosi is calling it beautiful. i would love to see some congressional colleagues on the hill asking other democratic
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members of congress up for election, do you think it's beautiful? do you agree with nancy pelosi? >> it's interesting the timing of the conversation. you talk about the open enrollment period opens after election day for midterms. but also look at the timing. we've been talking about hillary clinton this hour. and so if she really is a lightning rod, what a better time early than to get all the health care talk that you can out. >> out of the way before she has to deal with it. she made some public comments a couple of months ago that seem to be separating herself a little bit from the president's law and this forward to the new book, she defended the president on foreign policy saying he made a great decision. she's aligning herself with the administration on foreign policy but on health care, we've seen her to start pulling back from obama. it's interesting. >> we'll see. ed henry is the gift that keeps on giving. severe storms hitting texas today. flood advisories in effect for much of the state.
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their kids. >> finally crossed the line here. i thought we were friends. >> you think men have an advantage that women don't when they talk about their families? >> yes. but i'm not a grgreeing with th advantage. you guys could talk about it better than me. >> i'll tell you why that difference is, because they know that women do more at home and take care of more at home, whether it's family issues or house issues. so if they're talking about it more, it might be the women will be exhausted and she has too much to do. the man can say my life will take care of it. >> that's unfair. in the workplace if women can't talk about their families, that's an important part of their lives. they should be able to talk about it but the reality is, if they start talking about being up all night with a teething daughter, there are going to be leag colleagues who say maybe that person can't help out. i'm saying they should be able to contribute. it's a reality. >> it might be a natural judgment to say that.
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>> is that a co-workers' problem? shouldn't you have the same expectation for that person even if they're up late? you shouldn't treat them less because you tell them they've been up all night. sdmo >> what about the colleague who was single who was partying with johnny manziel? see what i'm saying? we can a grow here. >> i feel you. it's all good. i think it should be fair. if somebody says they're up all night partying with the boys, you might think this guy is not bringing an a game tonight. you might think of that if someone else is sleep deprived. i don't think you should make an assumption, why don't you see how they perform. if they need a timeout or whatever, they'll tell you. >> i think we're in agreement that harris performance should be based equally whether you're someone who is partying the night before or dealing with a non sleeping child. >> this career blogger who wrote
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this article we're talking about is penelope and she says in her experience and people she talked with and canvassed at the story, it really is a setback when you're competing with men on the job. so if that's -- you think that's true? >> that's probably true. people have their own preconceived notions and ideas. we're human beings. everybody is fallible so that will happen. if you think it might hurt you, then zip it. i don't know. life isn't fair. we can't control people. >> is talking about your family at lunchtime? talking about your family at whatever? at what point do you talk about it? at 9:00 a.m. when everybody is at the office meeting? that's inappropriate to bring it up then. if you're talking about it at lunch, it's probably inappropriate for them to talk about that. >> i think it's more valuable.
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>> which women are better multi taskers. >> i'm not arguing about that one. >> i'm in the middle. >> take it easy, ed. take it easy. >> to be honest with you, though, i prefer not to hear that much about somebody's personal life at work. kimberly -- >> okay. come over here. >> i'm aligning myself with you guys over here now. >> you're outnumbered now. you're with us. >> i'm going to align myself with the next story. it helped put president obama in the white house and was an early backer of obamacare. why is big labor so angry about part of the health care law? and this video. a woman physically and verbally abusing a man in broad daylight, very public. wow. look at this. smackdown. the reaction you are not seeing among the crowd getting so much attention today. whoa. what if a photo were more than a memory?
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>> nor "outnumbered" in a moment. >> we're waiting a major announcement from the president on the war in afghanistan. he's expected to say all combat troops will be out of afghanistan by the end of 2016. we await more details from him and live remarks and also showdown over provisions of obamacare. some unions battling employers over who is going to pick up the tab for higher medical costs. one union could strike as soon as this week. we'll have a live report on that plus an update on nearly 300 missing school girls kidnapped by extremists in nigeria. they know where the girls are but have fears they'll be killed if they rescue them.
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we'll talk about it at the top of the hour on "happening now." >> now it's my turn with a story that raises questions whether there's a double standard when it comes to domestic violence. how folks respond may depend on whether the victim is male or female. most of the time people stepped in when a man was attacking a woman. see for yourself there. you can see the attack at least right there and now people starting to get involved and wonder what's going on. when the tables are turned, there's a much different reaction. people watching in amusement when the woman slaps the goi around and verbally abuses him. no one is stepping in to help at all. you can see the shove right there but my first question is i'm trying to figure out how we got this secret surveillance video of kimberly. oh, no. it's not you. it's not you. >> look at that. she pinned his head into the pole there. >> if i was standing by seeing that, i would actually jump in and help.
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>> you would? >> 100%. >> if it was a woman fighting a man? >> yeah. either way. if it was a guy hitting a woman or if it was a woman hitting, i would step in. guess what? i'm going to hit her back. if she's beating up on somebody and beating up this guy and he's like in an awkward position, then i'm going to help. i'm going to defend. to me i see that legally as a defense of others. self defense. it's not fair. look at that poor guy. what's he supposed to do? he's trying to get away. he's trying to deescalate the situation and she keeps -- you know, why should there be a double standard? >> other people were not getting involved. >> kim berly is looking at it from a legal perspective. we're talking morally. if you talk about legality, i might. >> if it's a woman beating up a man, because if a man steps in against a woman, that's not so slick. >> it would take for me to do it. >> it's okay for a woman to get involved if it's a woman beating up a man. >> what would you say? can we talk about it?
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>> kimberly, i think you're crazy. new york city, you would step in on something like this? let the police deal with it. let authorities nearby deal with it. i would never get in the middle of a fight. >> sometimes that's too late and i feel extremely confident about my abilities in terms of fighting and -- >> i don't see very competent. >> here's what i'm going to say. in the instance of this video, you saw the man was a bigger size than the woman. >> he was restraining himself, though. he could have clocked her. he didn't do that. >> jay-z was careful not to beat up the sister-in-law. >> there's a seven foot tall bodyguard there. why fight when you pay somebody to fight for you? >> would you size up the guy before you step in? >> i might do that. >> on the other hand, if a woman is getting beaten up, you've got to -- we're going to get emails. you have to do something. >> you could call 911, too. i would call on my phone so that backup and police would come there and try to deescalate the
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situation. i would protect. i would. i really would help. >> one thing, too, you couldn't hear all of what they were saying but that's an important part of the conversation, too. we don't know what triggered it. maybe he's not doing anything because he knows he's in the wrong. >> but to get a beat sng >> yeah. >> back his head into the pole. >> did you hear that? >> let's get to my favorite story. business cards. infused with a man's sweat. for real. the goal behind this bizarre new product coming up next. [ male announcer ] this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. i was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again. and now i've got to take more pills. ♪ yup. another pill stop.
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i don't mind a smell to a man, but i don't want to carry kyle around. how did they get the sweat in business cards and put approximate headbands on business on exercise bikes and based the study on the fact that male goat thera moan can cause female goats to ovulet on the spot. >> okay. all right. >> you are carry a portion. >> ph, equals sexy? >> this is my card. that is a scent of you on it. >> he wrote this four times. >> get it off of the card. >> sick. >> and i think it is odd, too, because these are business cards. who would you give these cards to? and do you give them out in
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bunches. you see the women in a bar? >> at happy hour or on set. >> i don't have enough -- >> and what about elevators. >> you can tell with a man with too much cologne in there. and put the sweat thing and comparing us to goats, does that prove human beings are just animals? >> they have research to that. and there is substance behind this. >> i don't know. women are like i am down with this study. >> i am not sure if a guy shoes me a sweat card. >> wring out the headband. >> and why you were here. >> i was on the exercise bike. >> and it is not like the gym shorts. >> and ed, you did a great job and we are very, very happy.
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that is a wrap! >> we'll so you back here tomorrow, happening now starts right now! and a fox news alert on three developing stories we are following this hour. fox news confirms that president obama will seek to keep 9800 troops in afghanistan after this year. the president will make an announcement shortly from the white house. a dangerous scene in a series of storms moving across the country and the situation could get worse. >> and nigeria's government found the school girls and can't get to them. why? >> but first, brand new developments on obama care and battles over who will pay for the changes it brings. welcome to a new hour of happening now. i am jon scott. >> and
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