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now you can go to college without paying a dime of tuition. does it sound too good to be true? what some of these schools are doing are so incredible, you have to watch it. >> hello, everyone, i'm dana perino, along with andrea tantaros, bob beckle, eric bolling, and brian kilmeade and this is "the five." >> how did it happen? the white house has blown the cover of our top spy in afghanistan, a mistake that has left this official exposed in one of world's most dangerous places. the name of the cia station chief was accidentally included open a list of people who attended a military briefing with president obama on a trip to afghanistan. by the time the white house recognized the error, it was too late.
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jay carney was expected to be talked about. but it was canceled when president obama came out to talk about troop levels in afghanistan early. >> what the president does by talking today, he shifts the topic to we're going to keep 9,800 u.s. troops in afghanistan past the end of this year, instead of the story being about the cia. >> i'm back from a week away and i'm glad to be back. this is what i thought was amazing. president obama has a wonderful secret trip planned for the troops. they pulled it off perfectly. brad paisley on the plane. he's going to perform for the troops. i thought huge pr win for the white house, people have forgotten the fact that the president went on a trip because of a mistake that has overshadowed everything. >> which is going to be -- and is i think a huge fiasco. this isn't a minor mistake in a press release that the white house put out. this is the identity of a cia
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station chief which is a closely guarded secret, especially when that country is in a deadly war. so what happens now that this has been outd? this creates problems with counterintelligence operations, security operations. this individual who spent months and months, maybe even years trying to build this cover, has now been blown, so he can't move freely around that country. i don't see how he continues in his job after this huge mistake. somebody should definitely be fired. but the fact is this is a deadly war. so this is even worse than some cia agent being outd in a random situation. afghanistan is a deadly war and now everybody knows who he is and the real point it's not just the media. it's the tal i want -- taliban who know he is. >> the safety of him and his family. his career. if you are a pitcher for a major league baseball team, this is
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like shattering that arm because then you are not going to be able to do that same job anymore. you might still work in baseball but in a different capacity. >> or give the other team the signals by accident and they could read your signals. administration's can make mses but this administration makes mistake, after mistake. oops, we didn't know about benghazi, fast and furious, oops we accidentally outed one of our cia station chiefs. you man up. there's some other news -- >> we just found out before we went to air would be that the white house chief of staff has said there will be an internal review and some recommendations he expects -- >> so many internal reviews. >> they have a spreadsheet of reviews. how much review do you need if it was just a screw up?
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>> this was a screw up. the only thing i can say about this is somebody should be fired right away and probably on the nsc staff who approved it. this came from the pentagon. in terms of station chiefs. there's not a station chief virtually anywhere in the world that's not known by the host government or the taliban knows who our station chief is. >> i'm not so sure about that. >> i talk to some guys at the cia today that the argument that everyone knew his i.d. is a bogus one but there might have been people, we don't know for sure. changed. >> he's not going to be able to be out in the field anymore. he will be out at langley. >> when a president goes on a secret trip to a war zone, there's very few people who know about the trip, so maybe the regular checks and balances that you would have were not necessarily in place because they had a limited number of people who were working on it.
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>> you don't need the complicated eric bolling family tree to go back generations to find out what happened and whose to blame because so few people know. sooner or later it's going to be -- we know that going back to ireland and italy, richard armitage and scooter libby will eventually take the blame for this. for some people think this was no big deal, if you take a desk job agent in relation to a story that exists in 2001, if you say this is no big deal, then my goodness, you need a lot of apologies to a lot of people and a lot of money put back into the treasury over the investigation that took place during your rein in the white house. >> as soon as i read this today, when i talk about outing the cia agents, i kind of get hives. i lived that story for a long time. i looked up the david brooks
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column from october 2005, he writes after the investigation is finished that fitzgerald, the special prosecutor did not find evidence to prove there's a broad conspiracy. and yet for this, i think that in some ways, i'm kienled of proud of all of us and the media saying this was a screw up but it was inadvertent. >> it took a reporter to find out it was a screw up. it was scott wilson from the washington post. are you sure you want this on the list? >> i feel for this intelligence officer and for his career and his hard work. >> and his family. >> i also feel for us. we are losing a very valuable intelligence asset, at a time when we need him the most. >> we have another reporter, columnist kim who was on air over the weekend and she was talking about what she called a supposed scandal manual for how the white house is dealing not only the cia situation but also
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many other things that are on their plate. let's listen to her. >> there's five steps that this administration keeps repeating every time a scandal comes up. step workup, i didn't know about it, step two is express great outrage, when that doesn't work, fire some low level bureaucrat. the study comes next. then we're going to wait and see what the ig says or the fbi investigation or whatever it is and when that doesn't stop, you say six months later it's all a done or b it was a partisan push by republicans. >> bob, do you think they need to update their playbook? there is a pattern. there is a step by step process that they seem to follow. if it was equivalent of a football team, my guess is you probably lose a lot of games. but the fact is, though, most of these scandals that do come up, do come up from the press, go back to tea pot dome, watergate,
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the press is the one who broke those scandals. so the idea he finds out about it by the press, most scandals are found out by the press. by the way, scott wilson, how did the guy know this guy was a station chief? he knew it because scott wilson knows who the station chief is. it's not a surprise to me -- >> i'm not saying -- i'm not worried about scott wilson knowing or nibble knowing. i'm worried about the taliban and al qaeda knowing and the cia is concerned about that. i don't care about the press knowing. >> if scott wilson knows about it and the taliban knows about it. >> really? he calls the taliban and says you are not going to believe it. >> how do you think they find these things out? >> i'm going to trust the cia when she say please don't release the names of our individuals. they are not just saying that to the reporters. it's the white house that released it. it's the white house that's
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taking responsibility and doing a review. >> can i take it one step further? glenn greenwald, he says that he's going to release a list of names -- americans who are being tracked and followed by the nsai. now, is the obama administration, when he releases this, when there's probably some names on there that likely aren't terrorists or linked to terrorism and those americans probably shouldn't be on that list, when he releases that, is the white house going to say boy, we dont know that was going on? gee, i saw it on fox. >> everybody on washington is going to do like the washington read. they are going to get the list, say i hope i'm on it, because i'm really somebody. >> you think so? >> yes. the reporters would like nothing more than to find out that they are on the list that glenn greenwald -- >> can i go back to one thing you said, bob? they usually find out by the
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media. i disagree with that. this president seems to find this out with the media. he's willing to admit that. i guess they are okay with looking uninformed and incompetent, that's fine with them, kim also -- adds to. after a couple of months, you say that was republican politics. she did forget one, two years later, dude, that was two years ago. >> va is different but that's why they run the scandal manual over and over again. >> reagan's comments were i read about it in the newspaper when it comes to iran contra.
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>> what are those four or five scandals? my point is in five years, you got five real legitimate scandals going on and they seem to find out about it in the news. >> if we switch to our last topic for this block, which is a little bit along those lines, it's the veterans affairs scandal -- i don't like to call it that, but that's what it's being referred to. one of things they have said we found out about this problem with the waiting list from the press, but interestingly, in 2009, when the memos are transitioned from the president of the united states, president bush to president obama's team. there is a line there's increasing concern about systemic problem about wait times, for these additional concerns coming up, you mielingt want to keep an eye on that. they knew seven years ago and now we have this situation. >> jennifer grink was on the radio today. she said it is so disingenious of them that they are giving
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people the option to get private health care. it's never been explained to those who are leaving the military. >> the va has been under attack from the beginning. that doesn't mean that somebody hasn't acted on it somewhere along the line. some presidents have. clinton did. in this case, the idea that there are monies available and are authorized to put people into private health care is something that i didn't know about. i don't know, you mentioned it the other day on the show as an idea, but it's there, and in that regard -- that bothers me more than anything else. do you know that 80% of the va is unionized? >> i'm not surprised. >> 80%. i don't think people realize what that means. that means it's highly unionized and you wonder -- when you think about other union organizations, heavily unionized organizations,
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the post office, is there any wonder that there are veterans being put on waiting lists? >> what does that have to do with the fact that you have unionized workers? >> it goes back to the incentive. >> you can't get fired is what it is. >> or perform better. >> it's impossible to fire a union employee. >> the charter school system is tremendously effective what i would like to see is that system be copied for the va and have a charter hospital that can get funding from all different sources and get tax credits and tax break and get private clini right across the street from these va hospitals. >> i want someone to say i'm in charge. >> i don't see this as much of a partisan issue across the country. there's the washington, d.c.
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fight, but across country, everybody can agree, wemt our veterans to be taken care of, so you could see a sort of a surge of doctors49!óñ figuring out a - using private health care and vouchers or something like that to try to get a handle on this. it's not just veterans from iraq and afghanistan, but the aging veterans from world war ii and korea in particular that need help. >> i'm back. i'm happy to be here. new details are emerging about a student's deadly rampage in california. did authorities miss the warping signs? that's up next. [ male announcer ] if you suffer from a dry mouth
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. welcome back. we want to talk now about that horrifying rampage in california by a college student on friday night. 22-year-old elliott roger killed three of his roommates and killed three others at random in santa barbara. more than a dozen victims are injured. he posted on line videos and posted a manifesto. he ranted about being a virgin and seeking revenge. dr. keith anlos thinks they could have done something to stop this. >> they screwed up. here's the thing. the parents7+$q call the therap. they said things have gone terribly downhill. there are these youtube postings. they are very concerning. the therapist calls the crisis team. the crisis worker calls from the community health center, calls the police and says go, now, there's a problem and the police for some reason, they think they can just talk to this kid in the
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hallway and they are going to determine if he's a threat? no. >> so a lot of people asking eric whose fault was this because there were multiple warning signs, even the parents flagging the police, the police who had been notified, he was being, i guess, treated by a number of psychologists and counsellors, so where's the breakdown. >> right there. because the parents flagged it to the counsellors and doctors and there was never a doctor who actually said he's dangerous to himself and maybe other people and put him -- even if they put him away for a short period of time and said look he needs intensive observation, put him in hospital for a short period of time, that would have trigger the things that background checks look for when you go to buy a gun and he wouldn't have been able to buy the gun. not to say that he wouldn't kill anyway. he kill the first three people with a knife. it wasn't even a gun involved. there are 300 million handguns in america. there's another 100 million
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probably unregistered -- firearms in america. he would get his hands on it. but if you want it find out what made that guy tick, i think put him away a little bit and have him really, really getting the medication he needed. i think he was -- he was a sick, sick kid. >> do you know that on some level parents are hesitant to call somebody up, call the authorities to have their son committed? i mean, if you listen to the father and we'll pay some sound from his later, this is his only son. he did seem to have anger issues but eric does make a good point, family knows you best and if family is not going to be the one who sound the alarm, who is? >> the mother would follow her son's social media activities. she saw a posting on youtube that she thought was concerning enough to her that she went to the police. she tried to get some sort of help. i'm not sure what a parent --
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how a parent would deal with that and at what point do you decide that my son or daughter needs to be committed and also we did have the laws that say if you are an adult, you can't necessarily be committed against your will. >> there are some crazy stories about his behavior. his college roommate coming out saying that he dared borrow a scented kanledle of his and he lost his mind. where do you think the breakdown is? you can take away the second amendment. it still doesn't take away this mental ils -- illness issue of this boy? >> the fact of the matter he bought his guns legally from a gun store. he had a background check. the law does not say is that if you are continual psychiatric care and you are somebody who is a potential for violence, that ought to be included in the law and you could find that out
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from -- by looking at the guys background check, have you been treated by a psychiatrist or counsellor over the last five years. if he says yes, automatically triggers, i think, no, you can't buy this gun until we can talk to those people. >> here's the thing, first off, a number of things, usually with law enforcement, i'm not in santa barbara. this is not an unfinanced police station. it's one of nicest places in the country. i imagine the tax dollars support is strong. they are not going from gang to gang trying to get santa barbara under control. they should have seen the videos. you are a cop. you are not a psychologist. you are not professionally trained to evaluate somebody on the spot when life and death is in balance. with a background check, do you
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know if someone owns firearms? if they own multiple, if they got them legally, you can say i'm concerned about this guy. can you show me those guns? you would have saw a a little bit of a jurn in and i plan to kill multiple people which would have been discovered. he talked about i was almost outed when these cops came to my place. >> he was actively trying to shoot people at a party. >> hey, buddy come for me for a while. >> a cop has the right to send somebody involuntarily for three days for commitment, which they should have done. >> it wouldn't have stopped this psycho from killing people. he still killed people with a knife. there's no question -- bob, is there any question in your mind if you are that freaking crazy you are not going to get your hands on a illegal firearm and maybe kill people?
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>> commit you for three days they should be able to figure that out. >> a lot of people turn to washington and say why haven't you done something about this. taken aside the second amendment issue, tim murphy from pennsylvania has legislation proposed in congress that would get immediate help to families who think they have a mental health crisis in their family and it's been through a bill that's been held up but it should get another look immediately. that's where the help could hopefully try to prevent these immediate things from happening. >> doesn't california have -- >> they would never allow that to get out of commitment. >> fastest 7 never get up. a kmeed yen says she's embarrassed because she's never had an abortion. you got to hear this. coming up. especially now that ie with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat
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>> welcome back to the fastest seven minutes in news. morning, noon or night. three stimulating stories. mark cuban made some remark aab statements about his own racism. stephen smith took those remarks and adds his oppose passion and flavor. >> i don't care who in the black community disagrees with me. i do understand that to some degree there's a level of racism that we all have to overcome. that doesn't mean that every single issue is race-related. sometimes it is about how you -- how you represent yourself. when we talk about the american dream, you know who i think about? myself. grew up poor. the level of education that i had was a public school system. i ultimately graduate from high school. i go to a historically black institution like winston-salem
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state university. i graduate with honors and i'm on national tv every day. this is the road you've got to climb. >> that's very refreshing bob. would you agree with him? >> i think he's got a good point. i don't have a problem with -- cuban said because i think he's right. if you are walking down the street and you see somebody -- at least in your mind that is threatening, then you ought to cross the street. he was talking about one black kid with a hoodie on, then he said an airian nation guy with tattoos, he wouldn't walk there. >> do you know what he's been called is a sell-out for supporting mark cuban? you got to be kidding me. you want to lump him with donald sterling. it's outrageous. >> a lot of people talking abou week because they like what he had to say. i like this part where he says
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that p. did y, lebron whatever, those are very unique. you can't expect everybody is going to be like them and work hard. like he's done, works hard and now he's on espn every night. >> he was saying at some level -- he said some level ofg racism is within us all that we have to overcome. i disagree with that. the word i use is prejudice because of prejudging situations and my point is we all prejudge situations. when you see someone with a pocket protector, with glass -- tape on glasses, you prejudge someone as a dork. i think that's the point cuban was making. i love that stephen a. smith railed on people, when there's a white guy on the street with a hoodie, i also get nervous. what do you get when you
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cross a slimy slug and a parasite? >> the truth is, i've never had an abortion, and i don't know if i would. but it doesn't mean that i wouldn't tell --yee fight to th death for women's to make their own choices or their own human bodies. >> thank you for being brave enough to admit you've never had an abortion here in hollywood. >> that could really hurt a woman's career out here. >> seriously, is she joking? what was that? >> i mean, if she's trying to be funny, she wasn't very funny. she has devoted her life outside of comedy to the pro choice cause. it's from v to shining v. she's trying out there to raise
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awareness. maybe she had this at a cocktail party and she clearly talks to people who don't disagree with her, i don't know if she's even read a newspaper because there's no issue of roe v. wade being overturned in the courts. what's she talking about? >> in thinking about this, i do think what she was trying to say was that just because she hasn't had an abortion doesn't mean she couldn't support the right of somebody else too. i'm for gay marriage, that doesn't mean i'm gay. you can have public policy positions that are supportive of other people. >> can i do this one? they are rushing me on. >> there's not that many abortions in the west village. >> some people love montel williams, some of you don't. take a listen to the vietnam vet defending our nation's heroes in
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a way not many celebrities could or would that matter. >> we're at war. how dare this nation treat us this way? whether you agree with me v i know you agree with me on this, we can argue about whether you like football, basketball, it is time for us to come together. >> very emotional. officer in the military, motivational speaker. great success story. he's done a great things. i don't want to say anything negative against montel williams and what he just said. >> again, vietnam vet. >> this story hits veterans more than anyone else and their families. that comes home, because clearly it was emotional for him because he's been a veteran. >> he spends a lot of times in veterans hospitals.
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he used to see a lot of celebrities and politicians there. not so much lately. >> he really does back the cause. he is a veteran who struggles with multiple sclerosis and in a very real way so he is a perfect person to stand up and fight. >> part of that is through the uso, which is an amazing organization, i like what he said this is time for us to come together. i do think that people out in the country look at washington and say, okay, so the va has a lot of money. so obama might not have known about it, so bush, clinton. who cares? let's figure out a way to get it solved. >> they are rushing me again. again, next up on "the five" some incredible advice from the navy s.e.a.l. who led the mission to get bin laden. stay tuned for wise words from an american hero coming right up.
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all right. america's college grads from gotten advice from all kinds of commencement speakers this time of year. one address has gone viral. it's the one given by navy admiral william mcraven at the university of texas. "the five" played some of you last week. it's time for you to hear more. here's mcraven, focused on his ten most important lessons that he learned as a navy s.e.a.l. >> the 9th week of training is referred to as hell week. it's six days of no sleep, constant physical and mental harassment and one special day at the mud flats. as the sun began to set that wednesday evening, my training class having committed some egregious infraction of the rules was ordered into the mud. the mud consumed each man until there was nothing visible but
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our heads. a chattering teeth and shivering moans of the trainees were so loud it was hard to hear anything and then one voice began to echo through the night. one voice raised in song. the song was treshly out of tune. but sung with great enthusiasm. one voice became two, and two became three and before long everyone in the class was singing. the instructors threatened us with more time in the mud if we kept up the singing, but the singing persisted. and somehow the mud seemed a little warmer, the wind a little tamer and the dawn not so far away. if i have learned anything in my time traveling the world, it is the power of hope. one person can change the world my giving people hope. so if you want to change the world, start singing when you're up to your neck in mud. >> and he did talk about making a dirns and making an impact, he
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opened by saying i don't remember who spoke at my commencement ceremony. >> one of points i like the most was make your bed every day. that's the first task that you do and once you do one, that makes you want to do another. at least get up and make your bed every day. >> eric, he also talk about going -- sometimes you have to go head first and take risks in your life. you don't take risks in your life. you don't know how it's going to turn out. you would rather not think about the consequences. >> like putting you on the show, brian. >> right. it's a huge risk and it's not going to pay i don't have. >> -- >> pay off. >> thank god we have these guys protecting our freedoms. we hear bill maher and sarah silverman making those stupid comments, but we have to thank
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them for protecting our freedoms. >> i really like to know what the song was. did anybody find out what the song was? >> no. but it was something that brought them altogether, and they defied people. >> 99 bottles of beer on the wall. >> here's a think, the university of texas at austin, that is a liberal community there and he didn't get booed as far as i can tell and he got through it fine. >> andrea, you've overcome obstacles. can you appreciate something like that. >> i wish i were as good as he was saying. being your best in your darkest moments. the one thing i watched over the week that really jumped out at me, he thought the big guys would last to the end. don't measure them by the size of their flippers, but by the size of their heart, and find someone to help you paddle.
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>> welcome back to the fastest two liberal minutes of show. cleveland browns rookie johnny manziel like to have a good time. johnny football kick off the summer hanging out poolside with some pretty ladies and fist bumping with paulie d from the jersey shore. some critics questioned he
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should be focused on the season. he's having some fun. let the guy have some fun. he's got the whole season ahead of him. he's got the whole season to study the playbook. >> he was trying to earn up a spot end up being the number one spot as the number one draft pick. there's way to do this thing. this is a bad start by a guy that needs to start for cleveland right off the bat. >> you are a wus. >> he looks like he was having a good time. >> i would have a hard time saying no. i don't think he's the first quarterback to be outed for partying. he won't be the last.
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the only thing that matters is what he's doing a few sundays from now. if he wins, no one will care about him being poolside with women. if he loses he will be in the cleveland browns dawg pound. >> he's got money now. >> let's go party. >> if you have money, no discipline at all. >> it's may. i mean -- >> i want to know -- i don't want -- i want to know the future of my franchise is not going to be in las vegas if he's that good of a quarterback. >> one more thing is up next. >> oh, my goodness.
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>> i have missed the commercial break. fabulous that one. it's time now for one more thing. i was in south carolina. i had a great time. here is your favorite, america's dog jasper. on the harley with the side car. we were cruising around very slowly. we went swimming in the pool. that's like the canon ball picture. this is his very best friend grady down in south carolina when we were saying good-bye. did you miss me bob? >> i can't tell you. >> i love the one where his ear is inside out. >> i want to read you a story from a british newspaper. alert, yawn, two jack pants got
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married in sunday. tacky enough for reality tv. they were betroethed in a cassel. the republic still stands. the rest of you can take a deep breath. it's over. thank god. >> so last week, we discussed who the best vocalist was in the history of vocals and you i both
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he used to be the front man for jurn any. he left injure -- journey. he shows up over the week. take a listen, he hasn't been on a concert stage for about 20 years. take a listen. ♪ >> that is awful. >> i love journ any. >> i'm not knocking the song foolish heart. it's like lou graham. what were they thinking? >> the issue with him and now he's coming back and i don't think he had any idea journey
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was going to last like it did. >> i think it's horrible. and terrible. >> the man who took over for steve perry -- >> they found him on a youtube clip. >> i never heard of journey and queen for my life. i know a lot of queens but i don't know queen. >> it's been a while since i covered sports and i'm not a big guy in international tennis. nicholas mayot lost in the opening round. i never thought he would -- nor did he think he will get a question like this after losing in france at the french open? let's listen. >> congratulations. >> i lost.
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>> you lost. so what -- what happened out there? >> are you serious? >> no: >> french after that, the guy was watching the match and got the wrong guy who won. >> that was incredible. >> brian is here because our friend greg gutfeld went out to california because we wanted to leave you with some sad news, greg's mom passed away on saturday in california. she was 89. if you watched this show, you may have heard greg talk about his mom jackie. he writes she saw i had an active imagination and a keen desire to express it and gently and enthusiastically encourage me to skip count that path, a cheerleader and friend who took great satisfaction in watching
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me create things that made me and her lawf, none of my work would have been possible without my mother's love and support. good night, everyone. >> president obama says he's ready to finish the job america started in afghanistan, but his critic say it's a triumph of politics over strategy. this is "special report." good evening. i'm bret baier. president obama wants to keep fewer than 10,000 american troops in afghanistan as advisers after the end of this year. the announcement today is part of the what the president describes as his effort to bring a responsible end to a war that began after the 9/11 attacks. others are calling it anything but responsible.

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