young. meet ann turner cook. her identity was kept a secret until the '70s and her face still appears on the gerber products. i can see it. can't you? still. let me know what you think. megyn kelly on twitter. thanks for watching. welcome to "hannity" and tonight, we are broadcasting from new orleans, louisiana and this city is now hosting the 2014 republican leadership conference. hello, everybody. [ cheers ] >> jam packed show tonight including governor bobby jindal. the chairman and that's not all because phil robertson will join us for an exclusive interview. he addressed the conference, brought the house down, can't miss that. one on one just minutes away. we hope you'll stay with us. kicking off things for us tonight is our surprise guest speaker, the one and only former alaska governor sarah palin.

governor, good to see you. how are you? [ cheers ] >> thank you. >> we got a lot going on right now. i know how much the issue of the veterans issues matter. president has given three speeches in three days on the military, and i don't get the sense of urgency, where is the 1800 number to say you're a vet and need help. do you feel a lack of urgency? >> i think there is a lack of understanding on our commander in chief part. what the mission of the military is and why it is that we owe gratitude that's manifested in benefits paid to those who already earned them when it comes to what our military is all about and you know, that was really evident in his speech the other day to the cadets at west point. tru truly, it was illustrated by his words that he just doesn't understand why our young troops especially are those who would volunteer to sacrifice all for the freedoms in this country.

>> yeah, and then of course, the outing of a cia operative in afghanistan and then sort of the new obama doctrine emerges where we'll use force but we won't use force, nato, the u.n., and i'm thinking, what about -- but i do believe in american exceptionalism. i was thinking where is the regan doctrine? very different philosophy. >> what is the obama doctrine? >> weakness. >> and do you believe in that? remember that. mr. reporter from wherever. it's beyond isolation, again, he not being a believer in american exceptionalism in what it takes to remain a super power and not for any kind of arrogance in our country but to be that shining light, that beacon upon a hill that other country ks loies cant and count on and that was the regan doctrine. >> dick cheney last night said

this president projects weakness again and again and that as he goes around the world, other leaders do not respect or believe they can count on the united states anymore. >> right, that was a great interview with the former vice president when he said this is a very, very weak president and it's not that we are weak as a country, but we are so unreliable now under obama. even more than the effect it has on other countries, my concern is the effect that his -- his doctrine, his policies have attitudes on those who are volunteering to serve this country to those whom we owe a debt of gratitude. >> by the way, what does it say if we let our veterans down, we can't get a website up and running in four years and now $700 million, what does that mean for everybody else's health care down the road? somebody i know mentioned death panels.

is the va a death panel for many? >> that's a great point. >> remember when governor -- how many think it's a death panel for the va? right? >> that is what government-run health care will result in is inefficient, it takes away choices, and isn't it ironic that those who are willing to sacrifice all to put their life on the line to allow the freedom of choices in health care and economic everything else, soldiers, airmen, marines, they are getting screwed by the va and our commander in chief is in charge of this, ultimately. >> our prisoners at gitmo, this is one doctor for every 1.5 prisoners. >> better care. >> we have one doctor for every 35 vets. there is something wrong with that. >> in many respects, illegal aliens in our country today are receiving better health care, more benefits than some of our troops. >> it's really scary.

you have -- you're going around the country, you are endorsing a lot of candidates, this was the first time i supported jack king ston and i know you supported somebody else in georgia and now they are together, by the way. >> yeah. >> which is kind of nice. you want -- i am concerned that the republican party in washington is timid and by that, i mean, i'm looking at bobby jindal coming up next and rick scott and governor perry and kasich and walker. they are doing great jobs as consecondtico conservative glove nears. if they get power, they will do certain things. i don't hear them articulatinar. do you feel the same way? >> the politicians are isolated within a bubble. they need to get out here with the real people working hard for this country. they need to stay connected with the people. governors, mayors, your average

citizen is able to do that. they feel a bit above the rest of us and do become isolated from what the wisdom of the people is. >> you see, i think the republicans in washington think they will coast into reelection because obamacare is a disaster. we learned the first quarter growth is negative 1%. we might be back in a recession. and what i would prefer is a more inspiring vision. i have five things on my list. i want a penny plan to balance the budget. >> good. >> i want a consensus plan, health care savings accounts, i want what you want which is drill here now. >> same here. >> drill baby, drill. >> drill, baby drill. >> i want to secure the boarders and i want school choice. >> that is common sense, sean. that's your problem. you exercise common sense. >> that's a big problem i've had my whole life. >> is absent from those who are in this group making the decisions for us. how about something practical

like that? republican leadership, put the five bullet points down in writing. ask candidates if they will support them and do all they can to ensure they become policy for the nation. it's as simple as that. and then people understand what it is the republican platform is about and what it is we intend and will do for -- >> mark was on last night and says he doesn't hear the republican party talking about limited government anymore, balanced budgets anymore. i don't hear any inspiring message, and i'm like, guys, if you get power, what are you going to do? >> we are not just going to coast in -- >> no. >> into leadership positions and you know what? the mainstream media is not doing a fair job. we have that against us. we have to work harder and ratchet down things and talk about limited government, but that's the beauty of the tea party grass roots movement, too, because the tea party is all

about bottom line limit government and allow the people and individual list m to grow. >> what do you make of this tea party establishment because it's real. at least in my view it's real. there is a divide. there are a lot of people in the republican party that think they don't like what you're doing when you support a tea party candidate. they get angry. >> that's funny. tea party candidates are saying, hey, tea party we're taxed enough already. there is nothing radical about it. >> you sound like regan to me, most of it. >> united we stand and divided we fall and if those who believe in the republican platform, whether they are ashamed to be associated with the tea party and i'm not ashamed of it. i'm proud of tea party patriots working so hard. >> me, too. >> that needs to be our foundational mission there is staying united. >> you have a big impact on the political process. an endorsement from palin means

a lot. i know you're on the road. you just rattled off your schedule before we came on the air. what is your plan between now and november of 2014? >> do whatever i can to help and not hurt and that is to be out there finding some of those candidates, many who are not on the political map yet, certainly those underfunded and not well-known or not doing well in polls, maybe, and getting people to hear from them and getting people to understand what it is that they stand for because i'm only going to choose those who stand for constitutional conserve 'tis m. >> i'm with you. >> not only just say it, mean it and fight for it. >> yeah. >> i like when ted cruz fought. i was shocked he was attacked by his own party. >> isn't that sad? >> that's sad. >> he threatens the permanent political establishment in dc and speaking of ted cruise, we promised him reinforcement for ted cruz for hike lee. that's why we need tw shannon.

that's why -- all these guys who are here supporting, all these guys -- [ applause ] [ cheers ] >> and they are working so hard to get these good candidates in there because we promised them reinforcement. >> i have one last question for you personally -- how many people, don't get too loud. how many would like to see the governor run gun? >> oh. >> would you consider that? >> run for, what, dogcatcher? >> no, whatever. >> there are millions of americans who can do the job in elected -- >> but very few americans if they write a facebook post have as much impact as you, right? >> right. >> i appreciate that. and we'll see -- again, whatever i can do to help and not hurt. >> this is the first time you're ducking my question. all right. governor, great to see you again. thank you for being with us. >> thank you.

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welcome back to "hannity." we're coming from new orleans inside of the leadership conference. for months we've been highlighting how republican governors are leading the way when it comes to expanding economic opportunities, creating jobs and much, much more and one of the governors that has a great track record, welcome bobby jindal. [ applause ] >> thank y'all, very much. >> we're talking about this i don't even call you a republican. i say conservative governors you, rick scott, your friend in texas who you're competing against, who is going to be here, john kasich, scott walker, nicky hill. all of you inherited deficits. you turned them into surpluses. high unemployment now low unemployment. what can the republicans in washington learn?

>> sean, first of all, you're exactly right. republican led states are showing the way. the dc folks can learn from us. it's common sense. it just works. we need to change washington dc. they will tell you we can't cut government spending. we can slow the growth. we can't repeal obamacare. we can't cut taxes. all that is ridiculous. at the state level we have done that. we cut the budget 26%. >> can you put school choice in place? >> we have one of the largest, most expansive programs, double digit growth every year, 93% of the parents are happy. you don't force the kids to follow the dollars. we're seeing better academic sports saving tens of millions of dollars. unions hate us. they sued us in court. we're still here. the parents love it. but it goes back to a basic point, conservative governors understand. we trust the american people. listen to the administration. the president doesn't trust us to choose insurance, doesn't trust us to choose the best

school for our children. >> they don't trust us to feed our own children. >> right. >> we have michelle obama has to tell us what to feed our kids. >> this president never ran anything. he wasn't a governor. he doesn't trust local government or state government. when we met with him, he asked why don't you give the states more inflow wednesday on education to bring more competition. >> what did he say? >> here is the insulting thing. in a room full of democratic and republican governors, basically said we can't trust states. we can't trust governors to protect our people. >> i want to ask preevis about this. obamacare, the bad economy, we may not be in a recession again ased evidence came out. i want them to have a progrowth, proenergy independence, consensus plan on obamacare which you laid out one. in four years, they haven't created one. >> you're right. we're keeping the anti

everything party. i disagree with the president and obamacare. he's so liberal. a great country with a great future. let's be for school choice and for reform and scholarships, vouchers. >> balance the bud get. >> cutting taxes, term limits, a super majority before they can raise taxes. let's be for energy independence and manufacturing jobs. it's great for louisiana and texas but we can bring back the steel industry, fertilizer, good payi paying blue collar jobs. >> do you like the idea of five items they put down promises they make that they will keep? >> you hit it on the head. not only make the promises but keep them. >> i want five. >> an alternative to obamacare, balance the budget, stop robbing the kids blind, school choice, control the boarders, good?

>> works for me. >> when they balance the budget, cut spending and taxes. we don't need to balance by taking more money out of the pockets. >> if everybody here, if they don't have enough money, they cut spending. why can't they cut one penny out of every dollar? >> every american family had to tighten their belt. federal government is the only entity in the world that spends more money than ever before and call it a cut. that's not a cut. you know, going back to the states -- >> you happy requewith your gov? thanks for having me. >> the republican national committee will join us and weigh in on a report the new contract in america could be in the works for the next election in 2014 and later, no stranger to controversy, "duck dynasty" star will be in a hannity exclusive bringing down the house of the republican conference this evening. that's straight ahead as we continue from new orleans. starts with back pain...

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>> we need a new republican party. these guys are stuck in the mud. they are reacting to the left, mimicking the left in many respects and attacking the conservative base, call it tea party, whatever you will.

we need to remember regan was an outsider. we need to take back the republican party and use it to try and save the country, try to reestablish constitutional conserve 'tis m. >> that's high friend mark leaven on the program last night and he is interested in restoring conservative principles that made this country great and now there are reports a grown up of republicans are looking to establish a new contract with america, so, if and when this document is in fact revealed, it is my belief that some of my conservative solutions have to be included. that means balancing the budget penny out of every dollar the government spends every year for six years and get to a balanced budget. energy independence, looking into our own resources and creates jobs, gets people off government depen ddencypendency the health savings accounts and an alternative to the obamacare

train wreck and school choice, competition, save our kids from failing government schools and secure the boarder and that the for national security reasons and the rule of law has to be followed. joining us with reaction is riance preevis. >> you got a good clan. >> republicans want to put something down on paper. i was really excited about that sgh here is what i tell folks on the hill. you can take your eight swings at obamacare and the performance of this president, which we need to be the loyal opposition. we have to have a ground game and national party that understands that the where the wars are won and lost but you also can make a good year a great year by doing what you're saying, which is not just telling people what you're opposed to.

these are 80% issues that you're talking about. >> to me there is a divide between establishment and tea party. that's going to work out. president republicans believe and this is what i think mark was talking about last night, in that, you know, bolt colored differences regan talked about, does that include balancing the budget. stop robbing from our kids. >> right, eventually, we're going to enter into a nightmare scenario. the other issues that actually help us grow our party, like school choice with bobby jindal here in louisiana to tell every parent and every place across this country we are the party that believes that you ought to send your son or daughter to the school of your choice. the other parties believes you ought to send your son or daughter to the school your szi

code it dictates. >> i was in north dakota last week and we are literally, i am getting -- >> unbelievable. >> thousands of people's jobs by partnering with energy companies and transforming people's lives. >> there is oil patch in texas, oil here in louisiana. >> new york. >> and north dakota. what we're talking about is making it just a little easier for people to get licenses, to be able to drill and do the safely. these are the things that our party needs to stand for, which it does. we did put 150 bills on the senate and harry reid. by packaging it, it makes a good year a great year. >> i was surprised but many pleasantly so the idea of specific promise by candidates

on balancing the budget. you have to pay come september that might happen, do you think that's reality? >> i don't want to get ahead of myself on this issue. i think what you're talking about is more in reality than maybe people realize and that is four or five umbrella plan. something that happens again. >> did you like to see everybody here some type of written solutions five things that republicans will do if they get elect elected? would that -- promises? i'm not trying to sell my idea. i think people are so scenical of government right now. >> right. >> there has to be some level accountability. >> right. >> accountability partner. >> yeah. >> i think that by doing that,

you increase the level of acontina accountabili accountability. we can't have a 23 debate circus. >> why would they allow that? >> you want to have 23 -- does anyone want to have 23 debates? >> no. >> that's not a establishment take over. this is using your brain. it's taking control over a process that's out of control. >> you know what else? there are setup questions. i like a debate format where you let people talk and expand on ideas and discuss and better ideas come out. >> we need moderators. >> i want the country to be safe from this -- >> thank you. appreciate it. phil robertson will be hoar f -- here for an exclusive

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welcome back to "hannity." we're at the republican leadership conference and my next guest the patriot of the "duck dynasty" family. fill robinson, speaking about his religion and faith and joins us now. phil, everybody want to welcome phil to the program? [ cheers ] >> i see you brought your best dining ware. >> i have in this thermus,

bottle, my body guard carries it around and pours the coffee. life is good, you see. >> that's not uncle sy's tea. >> no. >> i can smell the coffee. >> there are thousands of women, sean, that want to marry sy. >> any of you women want to marry sy? [ cheers ] >> that answers that question. >> it's a dangerous world out there. >> all right. so here -- this rarely happens in politics and that's this, you became a controversial figure and then you were invited to speak at the republican leadership conference. what was your first thought at the invitation? >> my first thought is that maybe i'm sensing a little bit of desperation on the part of the gop.

[ laughter ] >> all right. i get it. >> to call me in, i'm thinking i don't own a suit, a ring, a watch, you boys must be hard up these days but if you want me to come, i'll come down and say a few words. >> you, have gotten to know you a bit. i've watched every episode. we watch "duck dynasty." [ cheers ] >> and my read on you and this was part of of what you talk about tonight, i deal with politics. i deal with -- >> sometimes girls pick it up. >> there is our headline for the -- liberal media. >> i'm kidding. [ laughter ] >> i'm dealing with political wars. you think america, i think you're a preacher at heart and you believe that america has a

spiritual battle it needs to fight. >> you devil into and are part of the political wars, the -- as i would call it, the arguing that never ends and very few people i've noticed ever change their mind. >> yeah. >> they have their side, you have your side, give them your best shot, they come back. with me, it's spiritual warfare. i'm wanting them to give their life to god all mighty jesus' son and be saved from their sins and be saved from the grave one day. look, the gospel of jesus, jesus died for the sins of the world. we're counting time by him. he must have been here or we wouldn't be saying it's 2014 years, sean, since he got here. >> let me say this, jesus did throw out the money changers and

jesus did render him to cesar which is god's. >> correct. >> and what sean hannity is saying the government takes to much of our hard earned money. >> no doubt about it. >> too intrusive in our lives. >> obamacare is killing jobs. >> for sure. >> we ought to be energy independent. >> for sure. >> we got to win those battles, too. >> i feel a little more comfortable dealing in the spiritual realm with the persecution of whatever comes with it, i'm just -- i have a task to do and i go forth across america. i've been doing this, most people don't realize, i've been doing this for 35 years. >> yeah. >> i've been all over the united states backwards and forwards and my message is always the same, god loves you, sent jesus to die for you. >> when the controversy aroes were you surprised? >> not at all. men hate you when they exclude

you and reject your name as evil jesus said because of man. it goes with the territory. spiritual warfare. there is a satan out there, an evil one and if anyone that looks at our culture doesn't believe it, i would simply say, what, are you blind? it's pretty rough out there. >> i wrote a whole book "deliver us from evil". >> yeah. >> how do you explain the killing, adolph hitler, communism. >> evil. >> and murder and pedophiles and rape, evil. >> yeah, yeah. >> see, when you use these spiritual terms some people get you can't say that. >> we took the ten commandments now and removing them from the courthouse and we get them out of our psychoki. we took god out of our schools. if you started with young people and you taught them, you review

them, corrected them, trained them, you instructed them to obey their father and honor, honor their father and mother, don't murder, don't lie, don't steal from a young age, is anyone trying to tell me we wouldn't have a better society? i mean, it's nuts. >> all right. when we come back, you got to explain the beard. and how the beard came about. is that okay? >> yeah. >> all right and you're going to teach me how to duck call when we get back. >> yeah, it will be a chore. >> coming up, much more with "duck dynasty" fill robertson after the break and the congressman running neck and neck with mary landrieu in the louisiana -- [ cheers ] >> we continue from new orleans, that and much more straight ahead. ugh. heartburn. did someone say burn? try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and are proven to taste better

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madisons, you have -- you know a lot about our founders. what -- >> well, actually. >> they influenced you. >> most people don't think i have too much sense because i would rather be barely intelligent and act dumb rather than have intelligence and act smart, right. >> right. >> i have a couple degrees. i'm not dumb. they were godly men, the vast majority of them. i just read about them and i'm thinking, well i'm not different than they are. they loved god. they carried their bibles. they followed the loord see jus so i'm thinking i'm like this. >> this goes back to the controversy without dragging up old news, do you think that when it comes to issues of faith and religion that maybe in a more secular society people don't understand people of faith, for example, christians are often bashed in society today. >> yeah. >> do you think people don't

understand where you're coming from? >> possible. you know, if you had no biblical training, had no idea about the spiritual realm and raised up in an environment where there was no god, no jesus, you know what do you expect? our god needs to tell them we love them and get on down the road. a judge can condemn anyone. the all mighty, that's his job. give him the good news. some of them kick and skracream about it but we give it to them. >> you personally had a pretty wildlife at one point. >> i lived with the wick id for 28 years. i've been with the godly for 40. trust me, this last 40 -- >> a little better? >> the contrast is astounding between the two. i needed to repint, sean. >> i think all of fallen short. >> yeah. >> i'm trying to get you with my biblical knowledge here. it's not working but i'm trying.

>> yeah. >> explain the beards. >> well, i figure the all mighty, i'm a male, and you're a male. >> yeah. >> now right now, you've gone basically the route god gave you your whiskers to be scraped off every day. >> yeah. >> i'm thinking he gave them to us. >> to grow it out. >> because they are supposed to be there. >> they work for you on tv. you have more viewers than i do. >> you looked at your whiskers when you got 14 or 15 and said mom my hair is coming out of my face, what do i do? cut it off. sean, it's not even logical. i mean, hair is coming out of your face? i'm looking at women -- >> wait a minute. but god also created doctors and gave them talent so something grows on my face they cut that off, too. >> the women don't even want peach fuzz. they are down to the last hair. >> have you looked at the women in your family? they are gorgeous. [ laughter ]

>> i had rather the ladies not have whiskers. i would prefer them without whiskers. you go up a river at 4:30 in the morning, it's sleeting and raining, cold, this is really helpful. and plus, ms. kay likes it because it tickles her neck. >> really? >> i'm just saying you might ought to grow a little peach fuzz. >> maybe i'll get a fake beard and try it with mrs. hannity and see it if tickles her fancy. >> look at our beards and look at our women. >> so you're here. do you consider yourself, like for example, i live in new york. i'm a registered conservative. are you a republican? are you a conservative? are you a -- >> i read the platforms when i repinted back 40 years ago to ms. kay and i never voted before because i've been too busy see getting drunk and acting like a heathen. i said if i'm a productive

member of society i need to vote so give me the platforms. >> and you read them. >> and i took the democratic platform and read it. i said one thing is for sure. i'm not a democrat. i said who is next? i read the republican platform. i said they don't rip human babies from the mother's womb. they are not endorsing perversion, so i said i think i'm a republican. >> are you surprised that you -- if you endorse somebody, it has a big impact, does that surprise you? >> i've never thought about it like that. you got to remember, sean -- >> people are seeking your endorsement. you're speaking at the republican leadership -- bobby jindal loves you. >> someone asked me -- >> sarah palin loves you. >> someone asked me do you feel rich and famous yet? i said not yet. i said when does it come, ms. kay? i asked my loving wife of 50 years. i said ms. kay, when do you start feeling rich and famous. i said phil, you're the type. you were so content with being

poor. >> doesn't matter. >> no. >> she said phil, i've been poor with you and i've been rich with you. >> she prefers -- >> rich is way better. that sounds like a woman. >> now you're making fun of me because i don't do -- there is not a lot of duck hunting in ne >> that is like, 6 hour drive. >> too far to go. >> yes. >> did you bring me a duck caller? >> this is all in tongue control. >> okay. >> so, look. >> okay. >> speed call. watch. >> i'm in trouble. >> about five notes. watch. >> that's it. right.

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welcome back to "hannity". now, you may remember in 2009 she was a vocal supporter of obamacare. her support for that failed piece of legislation could back to haunt her because according

to data, senator ladndrew and running neck and neck in the state. joining me now, bill cassidy. how are you? >> sean, i'm great. thank you for having me. >> congressman, all right. let's talk about how important in the state of louisiana, she supports and said she backs harry reid again and supported obamacare. how will that play in this race? >> it will play in a tremendous way. folks in louisiana don't like the fact she's been a deciding vote for obamacare and she supports the president's agenda 97% of the time. families are struggling because of that agenda. good policy is going to help us win this victory. >> let me ask you this.

the senator said she supports key stone opponent hairy re dichlt. let me play this for you and get your reaction to it >> has gridlock and problems but with republicans and democrats and mitch mcconnell, i'm unable to move serious legislation through for the benefit of our state and region. >> you won't said whether you'll back hairy ried. >> i don't agree with hairy reid on everything. >> it seems like she's trying to run away from hairy reid. i don't agree with everything. she voted with barack obama? >> 97% of the time. >> wow. 97% of the time. that is a lot. >> yes. >> and sean, when she supports hairy reid she supports a man that brings louisiana prosperity

the fellow who won' bring key stone echlsel pipeline to a vot 20,000 to 40,000 direct jobs. her support for reid trumps anything else she might say. >> last question. the main landrieau in the state of louisiana seems to have a lot of goals >> she uses her name to represent barack obama. i'm not from a big political family but am representing the people of louisiana we're elected to be from the states from which we come, not the president that supports the policies that the people of the state don't like we win because we're for louisiana she loses because she's for barack obama. >> that is all the time we have left this evening. thank you for being with us. thanks to our wonderful people

here. thank you for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. see you back here monday. thanks for being with us the reporting live factor is on. tonight: >> he is a very very weak president maybe the weakest. certainly in my lifetime. whether you agree with dick cheney about president obama, there is no question that leadership in america is on the decline. tonight, we will tell you why. >> we are strong and well-equipped to restore prosperity here at home to deal with the cancer of inequality. >> the cancer of inequality. sounds like a campaign slogan. ms. megyn kelly on whether that will work for hillary clinton. >> that's what you said three months ago. this has been going on since january. the v.a. scandal