the president will meet with shinseki in the oval at 10:15. charlie daniels in the after the show show. round of applause for the daniels band. bill: good morning. the veterans affairs secretary onli' momen finishing a speech to a veterans group after there were new questions about whether his fate could be sealed. welcome to america's newsroom, i'm bill hemmer. martha: i'm martha maccallum. secretary shinseki speaking to a coalition of homeless veterans. shinseki said he will get rid of the leadership at the phoenix va, saying what happened there is unforgivable.

>> i will not defend it because it's indefensible. but i can take responsibility for it and i do. given the facts i now know i apologize to the department of veterans affairs. i extend an apology to the people i care most deeply about, that's the veterans of this great country. their family and loved ones. bill: 40 years of service. president obama will meet with number the next hour at the white house. the president saying earlier today he's going to have a quote serious conversation with him whether he can continue in his job unquote. yesterday jay carney had a tough time answering the yes or no question on shinseki. >> does the president right now have confidence in secretary

shinseki. does he have confidence now? >> what i would point to is what the president said when asked about secretary shinseki. i'm not going to improve upon his words. bill: a lot of developments in the past 30 minutes. byron york, good morning to you. you watched this speech and in the end you picked up on something. >> the whole speech was about homeless veterans matters. he never made any mention of the scandal. but then he stayed on the podium and said i want to address the elephant in the room. he said his own preliminary investigation indicated the problems in phoenix are not isolated to phoenix, they are not limited, they are systemic. he said i used to think they were isolated, i thought they were limited, but they are not.

he said it's a much, much bigger problem. you heard him apologize and everything in this statement seemed to lead up to him you have aing his resignation and he didn't. it will be interesting to see what happens. >> you made the point that without the president shinseki would no longer have a job. he seems to be fighting for his own job. >> almost everybody believes the secretary is basically a dead man walking. they have seen this script act out before and it always ends in a beheading. it hasn't happened yesterday. shinseki yesterday me met with a number of veterans groups. his survival will depend on support from members of congress. we have lawmaker after lawmaker lining up to say he must go. even as the support was

collapsing and you just heard the white house spokesman pointedly not even doer shinseki. even as the support was collapsing he's been trying to build it back up. bill: charles krauthammer on this mess and comparing it to the irs. >> people can understand using the irs for political and all that. but these are veterans. people everybody wants to honor and take care of. add them all together and shinseki is a dead man. what you heard today was an invitation for a resignation. i think he's gone by the weekend. >> they are veterans, they fought and died. they should be the most coveted in this system, byron. >> that's what separated this scandal from others like the irs. this is something that veterans hold a special place in our society. people are grateful for their

service to the country. the idea they would be dying as they wait for healthcare has really struck a nerve in the american public. and the president has reacted very late to this. there is no doubt he has not gotten ahead of this at all. but the:white house has given every indication it understands what's going on and i think you could see something big later today. bill: that's the next question, what happens in an hour and 10 minutes. >> it's hard to envision secretary shinseki staying on in his job. after what he just admitted moment ago. he made an excellent case for changing the leadership at the top of the veterans administration. it's hard to see him saying on. bill: don't go far. if there are headlines and

developments we'll keep you updated. martha: it's tough to say that he thought it wasn't systemic. but the president has been historically reluctant to fire anybody. but he's giving end cases he may be thinking of changing his mind. bill: dr. sam foot is our guest the next hour. if shinseki goes, what then? martha: a drawn-out process at this point. talk about a major payday. new word of a deal to buy the l.a. clippers from embattled owner donald sterling for a staggering amount of money. the reported price tag, $2 billion. a former microsoft mogul who has

long wanted to have a basketball team apparently has won this bidding war, at least if you ask mrs. sterling. stuart varney is the heat of varney and company. break count numbers. $2 million offered by steve vanner for the clippers. that's the highest price for an nba team. it's $400 million than the last best offer for the clippers. main steve barber is august of this much more money to induce a sale by donald sterling who at the time wasn't sure if he was going to sell. here is $2 billion.

michelle sterling is the financial winner in all this. martha: she was publicly humiliate as her husband sat in the front row with his girlfriend and she has sign sad binding contract. is there anything that can be done to get out of that? if this lawyer says we don't think the team is for sale, it seems like he's the last to know. >> there is a june 30 deadline. sell it or we'll take it away from you as of june 3 which is the middle of next week. i'm not a lawyer. but it seems to me a $2 billion inducement to sell this thing is a strong inducement. wait also tells you is the rising value of sports france choose is. one of the best soccer teams in the world man classer united

$2.8 billion. now the clippers the second los angeles basketball team worth $2 billion. that's the rising value of sports fran chietses today. bought for $4 million inle 1980s. shelly sterling turn out to be the best investor in this whole crew. bill: fox news learning more about the plight of the u.s. marine in jail inr in mexico. andrew tahmooressi is speaking to gretta us tern. he said he was beaten so severely he was left gasping for air. >> when i first got there they put me in a cell with maybe 15 other people and they were threatening me, threatening to

indirectly threatening me to kill me and rape me. i told them i was very fearful. bill: william lajeunesse was down there, now back in l.a. what did we learn from that jailhouse interview. >> reporter: he becaused not by the in -- he was abused not by the inmates but by the guard. he headed north but the road turned south and he missed this u-turn. there is a small sign leaning up against a wall. that actually comes after the turn back into the u.s. even if you see it after five lanes of traffic at 11 time at night it's too late. after just living to california, he had everything he known his truck including three weapons which he declared to customs. he said they recognize his

mistake and they were going release him. then he was arrested and he was chained standing up to his bad overnight. >> i got hit in my jaw and it fell out of place. slapped in the forehead a lot. my feet -- i was forced to be on my knees with my face pushed up against the fence hard up against the fence. >> reporter: he has been moved to a federal facility and says he's doing much better. martha: breaking news as we wait for the president to sit down with eric shinseki at the white house in the next hour. so stick around for the details as they come out of that. bill o'reilly teeing off on president obama on what he calls

a lack of leadership. bill: barack obama is a passive leader who doesn't make judgments on behavior even when that behavior is destructive. wishy-washy is what this country seems to want and wishy-washy is what we have. martha: is the president wishy-washy, in rudy giuliani weighs in. bill: wait until you hear the respond from the building's spokesman out of chicago on that. martha: back to oregon where they are suffering buyer's remorse over the obamacare exchange. now the state wants their money back. how is that going to go.

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bill: in 59 minutes eric shinseki will meet with the president at the white house. i want to bring in the former mayor of new york city, rudy giuliani, to talk about this issue and leadership in general. i don't know the fate of the

shinseki, you don't either. maybe the president does. >> i should hope so. bill: in a general sense why does he seem as commander-in-chief as president so reluctant to fire anyone? >> because he doesn't -- he isn't cut out to be and executive. he doesn't have the natural skills of an executive. i said if you were hiring an executive who would you hire, obama or mccain. there is nothing in this man's background to suggest he could run the most complicated organization in the world. here is my hope. i hoped he had the natural talent. he doesn't make decisions quickly, he's not decisive. he doesn't surround himself with good people who are disagree with you. bill: you are going to make the

case in part what makes a good president is a good manager and if he can manage well you be surround yourself with good people. >> a president is a combination of a great executive because he has to run an organization. and a president has to be an inspirational executive. an executive who can reach people not just nuts and bolts executives. in the first case he's not very good. on the aspirational part he can affect people who agree with some form of socialized medicine. people who agree with a pacifist america. those are the presidents ideas. but all of those idea ideas looe weakness. bill: o'reilly made a point that

he thinks the president underestimated how difficult the jock be can or how divot actually is. >> i think bill is absolutely right. he never experienced a job like this before. the man never had a real job. he never made a payroll. he never ran a army, i never ran a business, he never ran an organization where he had to make payrolls and make difficult decisions where you got blamed for people under you and what they did and you had to take responsibility for them. john mccain ran a military unit. i ran a mayor's office. mitt romney ran a business. you don't learn this at 50 years old. you learn it at 25 and 30 and 35 years old. and by instinct he's a professor. if i were doing hiring in my law

firm or security business i wouldn't hire him to run it. i might hire him to give me ideas about it. bill: you would hire him as a consultant and you could take his advice or leave it. >> nothing in his background says he can lead. bill: i don't know if you saw the editorial in the "new york times," but they ripped them. ripped -- you ripped him. you bring up leadership. when there is a vacuum of leadership in the world, what happens. >> china moves into the pacific, russia moves into eastern europe. iran moves into the middle east. do i have to spell it out for you? we pulled back in all these areas. if you look at the last six years in every significant area of the world mayor case in a

much worse position. i go to south america and advise them on security. our relationships with south america are weaker and worse. bill: they tell you that? >> both side, the right and the left. bill: thanks for coming back. i don't know what happens in 55 minutes. >> if he's not resigning, he gave all the signals in that speech. systemic failure? >> we'll see if that's the case. mayor, thank you. rudy giuliani. martha: this stinging moment that happened at a state department briefing when the spokeswoman was chuckled at by reporters after saying president obama didn't give himself enough credit for his foreign policy successes.

>> for what? >> should president obama be praised for his foreign policy?

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family was never in danger. it was protective koagd that cracked. martha: it's going to be a great day. they were never in danger. some of the biggest names in conservative politics are gathering in louisiana. the big topic is the gop fight to try to control the senate in november. >> reporter: there are a lot of big names here. some of the biggest, notably people like jeb bush, chris christie, rand paul, marco rubio are absent today. but the family patriarch of "duck dynasty" gave the keynote speech. he talked about religious values in the values of this country.

bobby jindal is someone who has come out with an alternative to obamacare that could serve as a foundation for a 2016 presidential run. he said in order to win the white house republicans have to be more than just the party of no. >> we can't just be the anti-obama party. we have to show that conservative particles still work. we need to be true to our principles and beliefs. let's show the american people we have ideas that work. reporter: jindal tells me he has been thinking long and hard the about a presidential race. martha: so in general, john, what would you say is the move from republicans how they are

approaching these mid-term elections? >> they are feeling good about it. they are going to hold on to the house. they have a good chance of taking back the senate, the problem is looking ahead to 201. reince priebus said in order to win the white house the national party has to be a year-round operation with an extensive ground game in every state. >> one thing we are trying to do with our national party is be a national party. i think the national party shows up every four years, five months before an election. that's change. days an unofficial kickoff to this new national party. >> reporter: he says it's all about constant outreach in every state in the nation. he says when it comes to other states, republicans do nothing but win except when it comes to the presidential race and that

he says is a real problem. martha: it's nonstop and all year-round if they do the job they are set out to do. bill: twin astronauts, one discontinued for a year in space and the other remains on planet earth. one of the parties taking place is asked about mark kelly. >> reporter: the va secretary eric shinseki is our top story. we are 45 minutes away from his meeting at the white house. what happens now? >> should shinseki resign in absolutely. this administration need to put up or shut up when it comes to the care of our veterans.

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martha: this is a fox. there is a look at the white house where just a half-hour from now eric shinseki will shut down with the president. the president may be changing his tune a bit. we have no idea what the outcome this meeting will be. but he just finished a chat where he was candidate about this situation and here's what he told them. >> i'll have a serious conversation with him whether he thinks he is prepared and has the capacity of fixing it.

i don't want any veteran to not be given the kind of service they deserve. martha: joining me is jeffe duff, a member of the concerned veterans for america. thanks for being here today. i'm curious what your interpretation is, what the president told hem on that morning show. >> i don't think secretary shinseki is going to resign. given the comment he made yesterday and his comments that he wasn't aware it was systemic. i think he will go to the president and reassure him he's got it under handle and it's going to not let it get out of hand again. martha: it seems clunky in the orchestration of this thing. you have shinseki saying the problems were systemic. i try to manage the ceo of a corporation saying, you know what? i was too trusting of all the

managers across this country and i'm sorry about that and i would like to you give me another shot. i want to play it for you and get your reaction to shinseki this morning. >> i initiated the process for the removal of the senior leaders of the phoenix va medical center. we'll use all authority at our disposal and enforce accountability for senior members who tolerated diso -- dishonorable scheduling practices and i have insured they won't receive perform abs award for 2014. >> i was aware of these scandals before phoenix and where was he. what about the veterans down in the medical facility who couldn't get in on time for

colonoscopies. what about the veterans who died according to the va's own records. that's 20,000 veterans that died before they even saw their benefits. he wasn't aware of those? he wasn't aware of the scandal? i'm appalled he was a little naive. i was aware of it. where was he? martha: you raise great questions. i wonder what you think of the waive the president has handled this. he's been back and forth whether he's going to support him. >> it's been 6 week since the phoenix scandal was brought forward. why was the investigation not conducted several years ago. when secretary shinseki came

into office the backlog skyrocketed from 9 ought,000 to over 300,000. the president is patting him on the back for lowering a backlog that shinseki created. martha: you have been aware of these problems. we at fox news have been aware of these problems. we have done a lot of interviews about veterans and how mistreated they are in this entire system. my question is this. what would you could to fix it -- what would you do to fix it? what would you suggest? >> i notice shinseki got a plug out for the bernie sanders bill. it's a pork-filled bill. a straightforward bill was blocked. the va isn't awe supporting that bill because they are afraid they won't be able to recruit.

everybody write your senators. let's tart cleaning house and get rid of these political appointees who have had egregious errors and start holding executives under criminal charges who are found to be at fault for veterans' death. martha: thank you for being here. we'll see what happens in the the white house 45 minutes from now. bill: former president george h.w. bush receiving a honorary degree from harvard recognizing him for leading in the the country with a clear eye and a steady hand. he had some cool socks to go along with that. michael bloomberg gave the commencement address warning liberals about stifling

conservatives on college campuses. >> it's bin disturbing to see conservatives withdraw after protests from students. in each of these cases liberals silenced a voice. bill: modern day mccarthyism? our panel will debate all of that coming up next hour. do you think they expected that from him? martha: it's gutsy for him to stand up at harvard and say the ivy league poolts are the worst perpetrators of this of all. you look at the leadership and liberals used to say we don't have a voice. now it's the opposite and they don't seem to have any problem with that at all. thisy for you now of -- this for you now.

tragedy seconds away when a toddler wanders into a busy intersection. bill: the state department saying president obama is too modest about his foreign policy achievements. >> we argue the president doesn't give himself enough credit? how much credit would you give him? >> i would give him more than he has given himself. that's what i said. four wholesome grains. sugar. only six? six grams of sugar? that's really good. excellent, delicious... and yummy! honey bunches of oats. tasty! yummy!

bill: the briefing at the state department had a tough time convincing reporters the president doesn't give himself enough credit for foreign policy success. >> reporter: you argue the president doesn't give himself enough credit? how much credit would you give him? >> i would give him more than he has given himself, that's what i said. so would the secretary. >> reporter: for what? >> i don't mean -- i mean -- i'm talking what specifically are you talking about. >> iran -- there is ongoing negotiations. is that the success you are

talking? >> we are talking about engagement in the world and taking on tough issues that present themselves. bill: did that do it for you? hello to both of you. tough crowd over there at foggy bottom. >> yeah, they are laughing because it's laughable. and i think the state department press corp is probably not a bunch of wingers sitting in the room having -- waiting to laugh at obama. the guys over on burgundy on it comes to patting himself on the back. he has no problem with it. they said where are things going as he talked about them going? he's not blairk set forth. it doesn't mean there aren't tough problems and reasons for those things happening. but for a guy who does feel comfortable patting himself on

the back you have to expect pushback. bill: juan, do you think she was having a hard time making a point there? >> you mean marchy catherine? bill: no. >> i think they both were having a tough time. the reality is don't think the president is arrogant at all on this point. again in keeping with his effort to try and say the use the does not have 0 intervene in every conflict in the world, we don't have to send our military in. i think he's criticizing from the right for saying the united states is not going to exercise power in all situation. in the ukraine we just had a pro-western candidate elected. somebody who will take the fight to putin. if you look at iran that were

referenced in that statement at the state department. iran is pulling back on its capacity to make military weapons. putin forcing his handle into an unfavorable gas deal with the chinese. his reaction to sanctions we put together in terms of allies. bill: if you threaten assad, you put a red line out there and the red line is crossed and nothing happens. >> i think there are fast winds blowing in the world. arab spring, all that's going on in libya. you see war breaking out. bill: so you pat on the back that, mk, would you? >> first of all don't let veronica cornerstone you because i will go off on you. i think you are better at pointing out things that jen was

at this meeting because largely the foreign policy bluff has fallen apart fromr in the last couple months. when you are talking about iran or syria where the line has been crossed several times now and that's an issue. i think her answer is partly indicative of what the obama administration believes. i'm in the talking about actual things happening. i'm talking about confronting problems that are tough. congratulations every president confronts problems that are tough. giving a speech is not the end game. the speech at west point he was patting himself on the back for every moral position the united states of america has ever held. bill: a lot of these areas in the world you could fill in the blank because they have not been solved yet and we do not know how they will turn out. we don't know. we'll pick it up next time.

we have got to run. >> you know, if there were great solutions how come you don't hear from the other side? there is no quick answer here. bill: i think mk hammer would take exception to that. thank you. martha: nasa is seeing double. astronauts are about to take part in a one-of-a-kind experiment. mark kelly will be here to tell us all about it. [ laughter ] smoke? nah, i'm good. [ male announcer ] celebrate every win with nicoderm cq, the unique patch with time release smartcontrol technology that helps prevent the urge to smoke all day long. help prevent your cravings with nicoderm cq.

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martha: a bold new experiment. astronaut twins mark and scott kelly will take part in an unprecedented asked youy. the brothers will under joe testing to understand the long-term effects of prolonged weightlessness on the human body. mark joins us this morning. >> great to be here. whose idea waits and what do they expect to learn? >> well, you know, it was the nasa researchers' idea. my brother asked the get after he was assigned to go into space for a year. for these long duration missions it's typically a 6-month flight. my brother will be the first one to do it for a year.

i was an astronaut for 15 years. the question came cup, he asked it and later some nasa researchers said, this might be an interesting thing to do. it's not only about the weightlessness it's also the radiation environment you get in spot. they have 10 experiments planned while my brother is in orbit for a year. martha: as twins you have the same jeannetteing makeup and you have been in similar -- you have the same genetic makeup. what will you have to be doing on to make this experiment work while he's up there? >> it is a unique situation. our genetics are not exactly the same despite being identical twins. from what i understand as you age your genes can change.

part of what they will be looking at is how much differently do they change off time because my brother spent b the time he gets back he will have cumulatively spent 550 days in space which is a long time. on earth, they selected 10 didn't experiments. several of them look at genetics and the genome. i manage the stuff i'll be doing is the typical nasa mri and ultrasounds and also giving a lot of blood, and meeting with researchers over the period of time that my brother is in space. martha: do you have to do anything special while you are here. do you have to eat differently. or do you just spent your time with gabby and live your normal life and see how you compare. >> i don't know yet. early on there was discussion with how much of the same stuff i will have to do.

we haven't had that yet. i can guarantee you i won't be doing exactly the same thing he is doing in space, but i'll be doing it from arizona. that's not going to happen. but i'm very thankful to nasa formica rear, for the opportunity to do something for this country. so i want to do the best i can within reason to support these experiments. martha: you and your brother made an enormous contribution to space and we thank you for being here today. it will be interesting to watch. give our best to gabby as well. >> i will do that. thanks for having me. bill: the twin brothers probably want to get away from each other for a while. martha: a year apart. bill: we are await ago meeting at the white house. president obama meets with va leader eric shinseki.

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this morning: >> we know that the va has a systemic totally unacceptable lack of integrity and that breach of trust involved the tracking of patient wait times for appointments. other large facilities also show that to be true based on our research. that is irresponsible, in defensible and unacceptable. >> byron york expected the next line to be and that is why i am resigning. chris is here. what do you think is going to happ happen? >> he didn't not resign, he was defiant. aside from the part where he apologized and said he was too

trusting, what he said was he was doing a good job and proud of the work. he did this in front of a favorable audience and got applaud. and this is coming after the media outlets are reporting the president wants eric shinseki to go. >> if he wants him to go he should tell him to go. the president went on with kelly rippa on the morning show, which is an entertainment program, and they took the opportunity to ask him about this and he said we have to consider when or not he is able to do the job. what do you think is going on behind the scenes? >> two things. a deep rift between the president and the members of his party in congress. the members of his partners in

congress, many of his partners, are expressing they want eric shinseki to leave so they can close off the wound that will damage him in the mid-term. they so they want him gone, blue ribbon put in and this will come out again after the election is over. the president wants to keep his admanstration afloat and present further damage on veteran issues and foreign affairs. that is different than what his fellow democrats on capital hill want. >> there is an idea it is a fill area if you hire someone and they don't do much for you in five years it is a failure. if it is obvious someone isn't doing their job description it is a fact you let them go. why do you think the president

is reluctant to fire people? >> kathleen sebelius was a failure when it came to launching the health care law. it was a total disaster. she stayed on months. is this a desire to show he is right or void the feeding frenzy and drama and instead wait for the press to return to its default setting of esteem. >> we looked at the people that have been let go. the one let go said they were not doing a good job in

afghanistan and humillated the organization. >> eric shinseki is important to the liberal wing of the democrat party that made obama nomimee and eventually the president. he was lionized by democrats. his appoint was called a karmic victory. if obama cashiers him to placate democrats in grass this isn't going to be good. >> care to bet? >> i bet you eric shinseki do doesn't leave today.

but i don't mind having lunch with you so either way is okay. >> the white house is struggling to respond to the accountability charge. here is gjay carney. >> the president said quote once we know the fact if there is misconduct there will be punished. we have the facts. who has been punished? >> we got the report yesterday and the president found the report extremly troubling and he tasked the secretary with conducting an internal audit and review. and asked for a preliminary report from the secretary by the end of this week. and he awaits that preliminary

report. >> ed henry is here from the north lawn. meeting in nine minutes. give us the sense behind the scenes at the white house. >> i think chris is right. i think eric shinseki is going to survive today. there was a man outside the west wing and that is the chief of staff, took a phone call, walked by where i am, i shouted to him is he going to stay and he smiled and walked off. this president doesn't like to fire people and i think the kathleen sebelius comment from chris is right. they allowed her to come up with a plan with outside help. a top white house aid is working with secretary eric shinseki try

to fix it. they may let him take responsible and fire people in phoenix and try to gut it out. there is a question why because the allegations have been out there for weeks about 40 people allegedly dying why it took this long to fire anybody is a question of accountability. but the president's pattern is to let the people gut it out. >> what you see when trying to get a yes or no answer on jay carney he hedged on everything. is that a case where carney doesn't know? or is he trying to deflect and defer? >> there was a lot of deflection. and for jay, he doesn't comknoww it is going to play out. the president could look it secretary in the eye and the secretary could say it is time

to go. but the secretary just went to the homeless vets say i want to fix it suggests this isn't someone walking in with a res signing letter. and number two an important signal was going out. when jay carney was asked does the president still have confidence in eric shinseki and he could not answer that. that could be read look, we think you did a good job overall but we don't have confidence anymore. the secretary is twisting in the run and it is a flair. if you want to resign that is fine but the president isn't going to fire you. >> rudy giuliani said he was a bad manager and doesn't have experience managing anything.

and the other thing you are describing is a guy that doesn't like to fire people. what is the psychology behind that? we can work it out? or i want to be a contrarian and not give into the common knowledge. >> i think you hit it there. this president doesn't like to give into the washington wisdom and the beltway scandals. on the positive side people say he is loyal to the cabinet but as commander and chief kathleen sebelius can't roll out your law or you cannot get care for the veterans you have problems. >> a little later this hour we will speak to the man who blew the whistle on the va in phoenix revealing startle practices

there and that is what got this whole ball rolling. he is retired va doctor sam foot. >> some of the numbers that came out have gone a lot higher as well. so the office of an openly gay candidate has been trashed. carl demayo wants to win office and he is live with a message to the vandals. >> and michael bloomberg called out liberals on the carpet at harvard university in a huge way saying they are trying to repress conservative ideas and do so that their own peril. >> if a university thinks twice before am inviting a speech because of his or her politics,

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being able to put the fire out. no one hurt luckily. michael bloomberg delivered a commencement speech at harvard and he is speaking out what he thinks as liberal shutting down conservative views in the ivy leagues and across the country. >> there is an idea that scholars should be funded only if their work conforms to a particular view of justice. there is a word for that idea: censorship and it is a mordern form of mccarthism. >> leslie marshal and mark leckler is here. i doubt that is what they

expected because he called them out for giving a one-sided education, leslie. >> i think it is ironic a conservative is saying this as he is speaking to alum and michael bloomberg isn't considered a conservative. >> very independent. >> agree you need to hear both sides and need the fair and balanced and i think it is unfair when students boo someone based on if they are on the left or right. harvard has been a liberal university also and cambridge is a liberal city and always has been. >> many of the ivy league schools didn't used to be considered liberal. you look at brown and princeton and their culture has changed u

dramatically over the last 40 jeers and people that cattended there complain about it for their kids. is he right, mark? are they not debating the issues? >> he is right. it is getting worse each year. the former chancellor of berkeley who is prevented from speaking at a liberal university because they didn't like the way he handled a protest. liberalism progresses to facism. they get to decide and ultimately anybody who doesn't believe in the good is shutdown

in their speech. >> he says when 96% of ivy league donors prefer one candidate to another you have to wonder if the students are being exposed to views that a great diverse university should offer. if you are not challenged, how can you confirm your beliefs? >> that is what i do for a living. i absolutely agree hundred percent with that. but there are realities. when you hire a professor you have to fill up the class and if students have this mindset -- sense the vietnam war we have seen many ivy league universities becomes more liberal. i don't agree with the labile of

the fascist. i think it is healthy to have the debate but both sides have the freedom of speech. >> no, they don't. when rice can't come or lagard can't speak at your university you are not having that opportunity. that is the reality we are talking about. mark? >> when one of the greatest champions of women's right is prevented from speaking on a campus by radical liberals we know people don't have freedom of speech on campus. i spoke at harvard and met people that said i don't know any conservatives.

>> it is education. you ask hear all sides and walk out feeling like you learned a lot about different viewpoints in the world. it is not happening in most places. thank you for being here. >> it is important. then you can make up your own mind. we are awaiting for president obama to meet with eric sen and the man who blew the whistle is here live. and there is this: >> a base jumping dare devil who took the dog. he had no choice. is that okay? >> road trip! >> road trip! dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. polident kills 99.99% of odor causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains. that's why i recommend polident. [ male announcer ] cleaner,

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this week we were told the nation's gdp shank this weekend at negative 1%. charles pane is here most of making money and thost of money. what are we doing wrong? >> we are going in reverse. they are trying to say it is weather and business inventories are low and businesses will restock and that will make up for it. if you looked at consumer spending that was negative and it fell. we were what expecting that. so i think we have bad times ahead, still. >> and to even go further let's

look at the last 19 since they said the recession is over. 2.2% is the average. the previous recession was over 3% when they said it was over. typically you get a snapback. people become afraid and don't save the money about when the coast is clear we come out and spend it. it hasn't happened yet. that is scary. >> is washington in the way? >> are you kidding me? >> the business people say the policy isn't working in our favor and until they do we are not going to change our strategy. and having said that, if you are in the stock market you are kicking your heels every day because the market is going

higher and higher but that is the one sign that is positive in this economy. >> it is the one sign but it is separate and not helping the group of people falling behind and are not in the market. it is making the wealth gap broader. taking the healthy and making it richer which is the opposite of what this administration said they are about. folks were supposed to be out and spend the money but we have not seen that. >> i am not one that believes it is up because of the feds i think it is because of earnings around the world. 70% of caterpillar's earnings and apple. it is not making it to main street though. washington's policies are a brick wall. america's dna, this is still the

greatest country on the world and greatest economy by far, you cannot knock us over one day. there is a war against access and it is keeping us going. >> making money with charles pane starts on monday. new show! >> we want a title without pressure. >> i hope that works out for you. let us know. >> you will know on twitter when they don't work out. all right. you know this is the top story of today. the va secretary eric shinseki, we are waiting for the meeting and the question about any heads will roll after the meeting. he has said that happens at the va and the problems are systemic. the whistle blower is here that

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but the scanding exposed in phoenix, the secretary said earlier today that senior leaders in phoenix will be held accountable. >> i have initiated the process for the senior leaders at the phoenix va medical center. [ applause ] >> we will use all authority at our disposal and force accountability among the senior leaders that tolerated this irresponsible schedule practice. >> dr. foot is here and he blew the whistle on this. you heard the secretary this morning. what did you think? >> in thinking with my heart i would like to see him get another chance. he has a stellar record. but thinking with my brain he had a slow response to this.

if he knew about it, which i hope isn't true, that is not good. but if he let the upper va management, given the misleading information, he's stuck with the problem it happened on his watch. >> i saw numbers yesterday that were higher. i am looking at 27,000 and seeing a waiting time of six months not 115 days. why the change? >> 27,000 comes from a number from april with 1400 on one list and the others on the southwest list. >> the more we find out the worse it? >> the actually ig number is 31,000. that is the 1700 found in a draw and the rest is off the electronic waiting list.

>> at the congressional hearing they asked the witnesses rather they talked to you and they didn't. what in the world explains that? >> i don't think they were interested in getting to the truth. dr. lynch talked to the director and they had a meeting of friendly veteran service organizations which was by invitation only and she had graphs about reducing new and waiting times and it was all a fabrication and lynch was there helping or was taken in by the lies and deception. >> we get a lot of questions from your viewers. lori looper says ask why the defenders of the va won't get fired? -- offenders -- the offenders

need to go. what do you think about that? should they be led away in hand cuffs? >> in terms of the phoenix va the three people on administrative leave were directly interfering with the investigation. the other idea it is better to have them there was as employees they have to answer the questions. it makes it easier to do their job if they are still there. >> is this criminal? >> i think the activity is criminal and my question is who disabled the auditing figure that stopped the ig from tracking what was being made? malice and forethought come to

my mind. >> thanks for coming forward. i hope you bring about the change that is required. dr. sam foot, thank you very much. viewers at home you can shootn s an e-mail or on facebook as well. all eyes are on california chrome this week with the horse getting ready to attempt something no one has pulled off in 36 years. what needs to happen for the horse to make history? johnathan hunt is here. how tough is it to win the triple crown? >> it is really hard. only 11 horses have won the triple crown since 1919.

three different races and three tracks over a five-week period. when they get to the track here at bellmont this is the longest of those three and that according to experts and trainers is one of the biggest reasons so many horses have failed. >> they run a mile and a quarter on saturday and have another quarter mile to run and sometimes that fuel they normally have to finish the race is used up for another quarter mile and they may not have an explosive one on the last mile and a half race. >> reporter: affirmed was the last horse to win the triple crown in 1978. since then, 12 horses, including i will have another who pulled out the day before the race, have achieved it. we spent a lot of time can california chrome with the horse and his team and his exercise

rider told me he thinks california chrome can do this. the assistant trainer alan sherman said the horse is in good shape but the trick is keeping him in good shape over the next eight days. >> they are like strawberries. they could spoil overnight but keeping them sound and happy is the main thing. >> there is an element of luck as well? >> definitely. you have to be lucky for sure. >> reporter: you have to be lucky for sure. 120,000 people are expected here june 7th and it is a fair bet a large portion are cheering for california chrome. >> i will. cool story. beautiful horse. thank you so much. >> you been to bellmont yet? no >> no, i don't think i have. >> the track is massive. >> everyone is going to be cheering for that horse.

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vandals striking the office of a republican congressional candidate who is openly gay. they poured water on his lap tops, the phone lines were cut and the phones were smashed. the campaign said it isn't clear what happened here and it wasn't a random act. carl demayo is here from california. good to see you. welcome back.

>> thanks for having me on. >> having spoken with you and learning our your personal story this caught our eye. who do you think did this? >> i don't think want to speculate but the police believe it is political. they didn't take anything out. they cut every single cord in the office and campaigns are very technology dependent. we have a sophisticated system that tracks all of the voters and we have our entire communication system that is based on computerized phones. >> and you have three days to go. >> they wiped us out and took us off the internet. it was designed to silence the

campaign. >> did this happen at night? any way for the police to figure out who did this? >> i don't want to reveal any resources the police may have. my hope is they will aggressively pursue this case and they will find who did this and throw book at them or the group of individuals. in the meantime, we have to remain focused on the positive message of reform out to voters. my election is just three day uzway. so this isn't the best time to happen. supporters stepped forward with cords, computers and it support and got us back up and running within eight hours. it was amazing seeing people help us out. >> we have seen the tricks based on the fact you are gay.

do you think there is a connection between that and what happened in your office? >> who knows. but the gay card has been used with people disagree with my economic and fiscal reform agenda. they know i helped turn the city around by reforming government pensions so the government unions oppose me and they are willing to use the day card. they are concerned about the economic reform agenda i have been successful implementing and they don't want to see that go to a national stage. >> reminded us of watergate and what happened there. we will be watching over the next couple days. >> and jenna lee is standing by. she is waiting in the wings on "happening now." >> we will continue to follow the big news of eric shinseki

reporting to the president and will he resign is the big question today. and a new look at hilary clinton's new book and she make a strong defense in handling benghazi. and blue jean sales are down and we will get into that. and could you go a month without bathing? would you want to? we will talk to a woman that did it and why. the details coming up. >> do we need to answer that? >> i don't sit next to you. martha should answer you since she sits next to you. >> i prefer you clean. he is very clean. >> you are as well. it is no bird or plane it is a base jumping dog in the story you will only find here on "america's newsroom." >> the dog will need a bath for sure.

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see you! >> it is that easy. that is whisper the dog. all 22 pounds of her. the first dog to ever base jump. it lasted 90 seconds and he was a happy camper back on land. dean potter had whisper on his back and now it is on his lap. how are you dog? >> great. thanks for having me. >> what were you thinking? >> i am trying to bring whisper, my best friend, wherever i go. i spent the last 27 years climbing and i wanted to bring whisker with me. >> she looked scared to death for a bit. did you see her face? >> you know, i have been pushing into my fears all of my life and

i think if is healthy. whisper makes her own choices. if she was really afraid she would run away from me. >> unless she is in a harness on your back jumping off a mountain in switzerland. but when the dog was on the ground she was super excited. >> that is right. she loves her mamma and knows what she did. she was amped. >> some dog lovers think it is cruel doing this. what do you say? >> i wonder if leaving your dog at home trapped in the house or car for hours of their very short life or bringing them on 6-7 hours hikes and letting them enjoying the outdoor world. whisker is never left alone.

>> someone said it is like putting your house outside of a moving car times a million. >> we go fast. in the wind suit up to 150 miles per hour. spl >> what is next? >> it is important to us have to a balance life. we do extreme stuff but it is important to spend time with the family, kids and girlfriend. but we have climbed some of the biggest rocks in the world and fly the longest wing span in the world. >> the relationship a person has with their dog is so unique and special. what makes whisper special? >> she is just ready to do anything and dogs are so special throughout history and as long

as there have been people and dog and the symbiotic relationship between us. dogs, whether they are on the couch or flying through the air at 100 miles per hour, they have always been man's bestfriend. >> enjoy it dean. thanks for coming on today. appreciate it. >> now you have something to do with square. >> he gets nervous going too close to water. >> we have been covering a big breaking news story throughout the last couple hours and we are still waiting for the answer on what will happen with eric shinseki meeting the top ceo of the country. will he keep his job? on angie's list before i do any projects on my home. i love my contractor, and i am so thankful to angie's list for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.

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martha: so we understand that mr. shinseki has left the white house. we don't know exactly what happened yet. stick around. you will find out over the next hour or two we expect. bill: you think a whisper?

martha: i think whisper having a great ol' time, whether he likes it or not. have a great weekend, everybody. "happening now" starts right now. jenna: we'll take up right where they left off with a fox news alert. embattled va secretary eric shinseki just met with president obama at the white house after addressing the scandal head-on in a speech to a service organization for homeless veterans just a few hours ago. it has been a fast-moving story this morning, really all week long. great to see you this friday. i'm jenna lee. >> i'm eric shawn in for jon scott. as 100 members of congress are calling for his resignation after the scathing report found systemic scheduling problems masking long delays for medical care up to six months. a six-month wait for a doctor and so much more. shinseki calls those, unforgivable, even though he