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>> we did half a billion dollars a year to operate this nut house. and they are absolute disgrace. >> also ahead, another possible v.a. scandal. this one in memphis. where more than a million dollars was paid to executives in bonus but a rehab pool for the vets closed down for lack of funds. is it legal on the case? caution, you are about to enter the nopsz, the factor begins right now. braff paragraph hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. more trouble for the obama administration because of the taliban negotiation. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. there is growing anger in america over president obama's swapping five taliban war criminals for sergeant bowe bergdahl who may have deserted his unit in afghanistan before being capture ited by the taliban in 2009.

there is compelling evidence that the sergeant violated military law and may have even collaborated with the enemy. however, top obama security advisor susan rice is saying this about bergdahl. >> he is going to be safely reunited with his family. he served the united states with honor and distinction. >> another very dubious statement by ambassador rice how will remember is the person who mislead the world about benghazi. that's the administration's take that sergeant bergdahl is a honorable man. >> sergeant bergdahl put on the uniform of the united states voluntarily and went to war for the united states voluntarily. that takes honor and it is a mark of distinction. >> president obama himself a bit more cautious. >> regardless of the circumstances, whatever those circumstances may turn

out to be we still get an american soldier back if he is held in captivity, period. full stop. >> but nobody be is stopping, mr. president. the controversy is growing. and your administration is, again, on the defensive. the president is currently in europe, perhaps he can hear the anger over here. it's that loud. nevertheless, his guys continue to protect him. >> the narrative is let's take this guy, this soldier that we got home, diminish him, turn him into some kind of a caricature. we don't know if is he a traitor, saying negative things about him. insult his family and then take the five that we are releasing build them up into mega threat against us the president of the united states is a traitor who traitor to let out our enemies. is this the type -- republicans? >> politics aside, the release of the five taliban war criminals, that's the troubles precedent and is almost indefensible in the face of sergeant bergdahl's status. five years ago, when the sergeant first left his

unit, fox news strategic analyst colonel ralph peters said. this. >> my anger is that the media has been turning this guy, who is a probable -- an alleged deserter, certainly awol in combat zone. by does it make me angry? we know bergdahl'same. owe f us know the names of the marines fighting crippling in hospitals. >> at least sixth u.s. soldiers were killed searching for sergeant bergdahl creating deep resentment in the military. listen to some soldiers who served with bergdahl. >> he did not serve the united states with honor. we all took an oath. he violated his oath when he deserted us and put other americans in jeopardy. >> any of us would have died for him while he was with us and for us to leave him like that, it was a very big betrayal. >> if you had asked me three days ago, i would have said firing squad. i have had some time to think about it some time to

get a little less emotional and detach myself that way and i think that he should be tried as deserter and court martialled. i would like to see him in leavenworth for the remainder of his days. >> the obama administration has brought it upon itself. these taliban killers are not soldiers, according to the u.n. in 2013 alone, 74% of all civilian casualties in afghanistan were caused by the taliban and al qaeda. at least 2300 civilians were killed. more than 4,000 injured. multiply that by 13 years. and you have the level of atrocity the taliban has committed. this is not a prisoner of war exchange. this is a political move. and it is back firing on the president, no question about it. so, then the question becomes what is going on

inside the oval office? why are so many mistakes being made? big mistakes. the vai scandal -- now just a few days later we have this. it's almost beyond belief that an administration could be this dense. so, last night i talked with someone who knows the inside story of the obama white house. i have to keep the person's identity secret but he told me that the president has come to the conclusion that his administration is not, not going to accomplish its goals. he knows the economy is not going it turn around. he no knows obamacare is not going to be popular. and he understands that his job approval rating will likely remain below 50%. therefore, according to this guy, the president has concluded that public opinion really doesn't matter anymore. thus, mr. obama is going to do what he wants to do. and the consequences be damned. i believe that assessment is

accurate. just think about it. why would you swap one alleged deserter because surely president obama knows the guy left his unit voluntarily for five, five notorious war criminals? why would anyone do that it simply doesn't make sense. these taliban guys will continue killing people. even ardent pro-obama supporters have got to be confused. yes, the zealots will always support mr. obama no matter what he does. if you are a thinking person, all the chaos in washington is embarrassing. and the explanations just plain incredible. susan rice saying to the world that sergeant bergdahl served his country with honor? are you kidding me? and that's on top of the benghazi stuff? is the ambassador rice a moron? why would she say that? with all -- when all the

facts point to the opposite. especially when she herself got hammered over the benghazi deception. again, what is wrong with these people? talking points cannot answer that question. it's beyond comprehension. the white house press core better start asking about ms. rice and the other crazy stuff over and over again. one final thing. president obama knows that at least half, half of the american public is totally disengaged from political reality. they don't know anything. and they don't care to know. many live in a high tech bubble, lost in cyberspace. caught up in their own selfish pursuits. therefore, he knows the president does, that he can razzle dazzle, make speeches and survive. that's a big change in this country when you have half of the folks not caring a whit about what our leadership does.

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i'm glad you came on the program tonight. because you have seen, as a journalist, administrations going all the way back to i think u.s. grant. weren't you with u.s. grant there? i mean, you are an old guy. >> almost. >> seriously, you were deeply involved with the nixon administration and from then on you covered it. i can't explain this crazy stuff that's going on in washington right now. do you have any perspective for me? >> well, i have some ideas about it. first of all, i served in the navy in the 1960 and if you are captured, no matter what the circumstances are, if you know they are going to try to get you back that is a very good thing. i would be hard pressed to criticize this except from a management point of view.

what happened is gee, we are going to be able to get somebody released and then they failed to manage it. a couple of examples. dianne feinstein, the democratic chairman of the senate intelligence committee has said well, she remed and she got a late call from the white house about this. and then she said that, you know, they kind of go out on their own and do things. and i think that summarizes what happens here. they should sit down. they should sound people out. they should talk to her, they should talk to republicans. it's a well-known fact that john mccain was a pow for years. the president could call him and say look, i'm thinking of doing. this what do you think -- what are the downsides when you do that kind of interrogation, particularly of the political opposition, then you may say well, let's

count to it 10 before we do this or let's do this in a different way. and so, you see that there is that unfortunate bubble in the white house where they they are tour often isolated on something like this. for instance, suppose somebody in the national security counsel called you, bill, and said in confidence, we're thinking of doing this what do you think? you would have given your point of view. >> i would have said don't do it as i said last night. i think you are absolutely right that it's a management problem. however, it's been going on almost six years is it arrogance or ignorance? it's not simple. i have done two books on obama and got to know him in the operation and i know you won't like to hear this. i think there are some strengths there. i think there. >> why wouldn't i want to hear that? i want to hear the honest story. look, bob, it's got to be one of two things. arrogance or ignorance.

because this is now whipping back on the president. it's hitting him right in the forehead. and is he going to take a tremendous hit. he himself is going to take this hit. so is it arrogance or ignorance? >> i think it's isolation. i think it is oh,x÷ gee, this is humanitarian gesture, let's do it, and no one sits and thinks it through and as you well he know, when you do something like, this you want to sit down and say, what's the second bounce, the third bounce, the fourth bounce? what are people going to think? what are the arguments against it? how are we going to explain it? and they just rush to act on sometimes like in this case, i think it is a gin wynn humanitarian impulse. but it doesn't work. and so now -- >> -- okay. let's a -- give him the benefit of the doubt for the sake of this debate. all right? just for the sake of it this

debate because i don't know what his intentions are. but you have rice, his top national security advisor going out looking -- look into the camera and saying bergdahl is an honorable man. that's an insane statement is he a deserter, and he may be a collaborator, bob. this is the second time for this woman. >> we shouldn't use words like that without the hard data. the process in the military is going to go ahead. >> the data is already in, bob. already have eyewitnesses on the scene, primary sources saying the man deserted. now, drab brart, we -- collaborator, we don't know but there are troubling tweets, troubling emails and all of that is on the record. just stay with rice for a minute. >> you are exactly right to ask that question. i think this is the failure, manage and coordinate and spend time on something like that. they say well, it had to be be done very quickly.

i'm sure that's the case. but there are people in the congress that they deal with on the most sensitive national security issues. >> something wrong. >> and they can talk to them and they can say. >> sure. >> what do you think? and, you know, the bottom line is, and you see dianne feinstein, the democrat, essentially criticizing the president that the president doesn't line up his friends and doesn't. >> the system absolutely. >> they don't. and this, you know, may be a sensible thick to do when we know all the facts. >> i betcha it's going to get worse though that's my prediction. thank you for coming on. >> we will see. thank you. >> charles krauthammer will have more on the obama administration. and that should be interesting. matthew martinek from illinois killed searching for sergeant bergdahl. a factor exclusive moments

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his stepfather. so we will begin with you. you heard what our commentators have said here. how do you see this? >> seeing it as far as

holding the accountability to bergdahl is probably my first and foremost concern that i have. the comments that have been made about bringing him home as a hero are very disconcerning to me. are just a few. >> all right. so when you hear ambassador rice and jay carney say he served with honor, that disturbs you? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, how do you consider somebody who serves with honor that is disrespecting their own fellow soldiers, that care about him and on top of all of that, my son, who goes and looks for him, because he has went awol, is killed. >> do you believe that the sergeant should be prosecuted when he comes back here, put on trial? >> absolutely. >> definitely. >> yes. >> absolutely, yeah. >> there is a code of justice that when these

young men sign up and ladies sign up for the armed services, they agree to, one of the things that we want to make sure is that that code of justice is taken to the full extent. a full investigation, american people knowing all of the facts. >> when you heard mr. luciano, that president obama was going to make the deal and then you saw the press conference with the sergeant's parents at the white house, what went through your mind? >> well, first off, i really, really understand their joy of having their son home and in harm's way. family loves their children no matter what i have no problem that he is home. personally i have a major problem how he got home. but, the fact of the matter is that this man has to be accountable for his actions. when matthew died second lt. andrews also died in that ambush and others were

seriously wounded. we are finding out more and more that other people were put in harm's way and gave up their life for him. he has to stand in the military code of justice trial. >> i think that will happen. i can't imagine it wouldn't happen at this point with the outcry. when president obama says look, we have got to get him back, that's all. period. and we are going to do it, you say what, to the president? the president will probably get a transcript of this interview. what do you want to say to him? >> well, i any what i would say to him is considering the circumstances, that surrounding the whole situation with him going awol. i know that with my son, if he was captured and didn't go awol, i know for sure that he would not want five extremely dangerous terrorists traded for his

life. he would give his life because he would be very worried on the consequences that would go forward. >> that truly is the man that matthew was. >> we appreciate you talking about it. painful ordeal and have to go through it again. we appreciate it plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. charles krauthammer strong release. may surprise you. he will be here. very troubling v.a. situation. big salary paid in memphis but a rehab pool is shut down for lack of money. down for lack of money. is legal is

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think the government has come out and said that that is the case other conflict is that the claims that people died searching for him. they have said that they are not true. so, you know, i am more inclined to believe the family but it's confusing as to why the pentagon is maintaining that. >> i believe the soldiers there there that's who i'm believing what do you say. >> watching these parents is so heart breaking. i was thinking of that scene in private ryan. they say we lost guys looking for you. right? >> private ryan was a hero. >> and he was a hero, right. >> he was a good guy. >> all of these murky details about this guy looks increasingly like he was a deserter. whether or not is he a collaborator, we don't know. pra struck me listening to the parents talk to you, bill. president obama had this big rose garden ceremony with bergdahl's parents, okay? you can say that's all right.

these parents who lost their loved ones in an enemy fire looking for this guy. they should also be invited to the white house. >> i think so too, that's a good point. kirsten, i was kind of tough on the father, we are looking at him now in the beard yesterday his presentation offended me. i didn't like the reference to allah, the beard and other tweets. other news programs have reported to be true. we haven't because weigh can't verify it came from his tweet account but it looks all sympathetic to the taliban. i don't like this guy's presentation. am i out of line there? >> i think it's definitely strange. missing for five years and i think he is probably traumatized. based on the articles that i have read, even his friends have confronted him and said do you think you are suffering from stockholm syndrome' in your attempt to understand your son's captors which is what he said he was doing and he also says he grew the beard to mark how long his son has been gone and then he was

learning, you know, arabic. >> pattern -- >> trying to understand the language of his sons better. he has lost it a little bit. i feel sorry for him. >> well, there were some emails that went back and forth between the father and. >> the son. >> sergeant bergdahl. some of those emails bergdahl says america is disgusting. it t. is a horror. he hated being a juror. jennifer griffin was reporting today that he may have actually said i want to renounce my u.s. citizenship. in response to those emails, this father, in all caps, emails him back and says obey your conscious. my mother would have said obey your superiors. this family is coming from in terms of were they feeding into this? was this a culture this the family as well. >> all of those points that monday canned a kirsten just made are valid. i want you guys to email me. i thought about this a lot, you know. i'm standing by my analysis of the father that what he did at the white house was inappropriate.

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thanks for staying with us i'm bill o'reilly in the is it legal segment tonight, in memphis, tennessee, million dollars paid in bonus money to v.a. officials working there. yet a therapeutic aquatic pool used to rehab injuries used to help veterans shut down for lack of funding. how can that possibly happen? here now kimberly guilfoyle and lis wiehl. any broken laws here? >> no laws broken because they have the different pools in the v.a. for administrative stuff like pope newses and things like the pool. there is the pool right there. it's still there. i talked to one of the whistleblowers today who blew this all up. he said the pool is there it's drained. there are file cabinets in there now. >> so you say the v.a. has known allocated for bonuses that can't be used, guilfoyle for the pool? >> correct. >> couldn't they say we are not going to give the

bonuses this year? we're going to give the funding to the pool? would people be arrested? would the fbi kick in the v.a.'s door? pretty ridiculous and gross mismanagement of the v.a. >> shinseki could have taken his little pen and said you know what? the bonuses aren't going to come this year. we have a little problem with the funding we are going to give it to the guys. >> wouldn't that be a strong leadership move. >> i'm asking. >> yes. >> could he not have done that. >> they can move the funds. >> one place to the other. you asked an open question was it illegal and on the fails of it not illegal. >> holder is not going to get involved anyway. we don't need him. another example of mismanagement they could and should have done something about. they did pay a million in bonuses. >> let's get that pool filled, okay? >> i mean, seriously. >> they really water rehab is very effective. >> they are not getting it. >> nine vouchers out for them, guess what, the pool

holds 15 at a time. >> pinheads won't do it. then i will dual it we will get the pool back up and running. >> all right. >> fill the pool. >> duke university very troubled. lacrosse thing we all know about. charges duke. now we have a kid student there from australia went out on a date with the girl. the girl says he assaulted her sexually. was extell peld, right? >> right. >> a judge ordered him to be back in the school, right? pick it up from there. >> the bottom line he said this is bargain for consideration. i spent over $250,000 on my education. i have a job with the wall street firm but can i cannot accept this job and get gainful employment without a diploma. he was never criminally charged with this. the police investigated and declined to prosecute. then the school, the victim in this case, she complained to the school there was essentially an administrative hearing of three members that decided that this is inappropriate and under a one year new rule, if you engage in

sexual misconduct, you can can be expelled. >> is there anything he can do to get diploma. >> yes. i think under breach of contract. >> so he fired a lawsuit against -- >> -- really a breach of contract. i did everything i was supposed to doened a you still kicked me out. but the problem for him is the three judge -- this three panel then it has to go through the system and it could take years. >> due process. >> bottom line is injunction was granted. they can't deprive him of it. now we will will go to court going to court takes a long time. >> i think he is going to prevail though. in san diego, there is a a-year-old kid rylan witnessington who was a girl and is now a boy. roll the tape. >> my name is rylan. i'm a transagainster kid. [inaudible] thank you to my parents. >> all right. so his parents at age 5 said, all right. rylan you can be a boy even though you were born a girl.

>> it's not just the parents though. the parents went to therapists. they talked to the kid. they have done everything, i think they could do. it's always what's in the best interest of the child. the child was saying i identify. >> the age of the child is -- it's pretty young. >> but we are not talking about medical surgery or hormones or anything like that. >> nevertheless, you are talking about a capacity for decision-making. some of the studies have shown that up to 80% of individuals who made a gender selection change their mind and go back and revert to the gender that they were biologically born. >> the parents haven't done anything physically or the doctor. just telling rylan hey you can be a boy if you want to be a boy. >> the child was very vocal and expressive about wanting. >> she is 56r7b8g9 the parents feel they are trying to honor the wishes of their child. they have a younger daughter. >> the idea it would even be considered as child abuse, no. >> i wouldn't do it. would you do it? i wouldn't do it. >> if my job would say this is how i identify myself.

>> at 5? and you let the she be a boy? would you do it? >> i would. at this point, right now. >> no. i would profound counseling and make sure there was a decision they made as an adult when they're better equipped. >> two against one. we know you are touchy and feely. i don't think a-year-olds make those kind of decisions. >> there is one thing to get a hair cut and wear your hair short. >> that's all they are doing. >> they identify as a boy. >> if she wants to play football, i would let her, but she is still a girl. krauthammer on deck. why is the administration doing so many dubious things? charles is next. marge: you know, there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious, and an excellent source of fiber

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back of the book segment tonight, as we pointed out in the talking points memo the obama administration is now doing inexplicable

things and chaos is in the air. joining us from washington fox news analyst charles krauthammer. up top of the program bob woodward said is he in a bubble that's why these mistakes are being made. i think there is more to it than that. do you? >> no. this is not a management problem. this is a problem that is i object -- intrinsic with hostage swaps. ronald reagan who ran a very good administration, very efficient administration, extremely successful administration slipped and fell and was humiliated over hostage swaps. come out on the wrong view. i the view i have of this is rather different than yours. i think a country has two obligations. absolutely ironclad obligations. number one, if there is a soldier being held, you get him back. number two is, if you desert your unit, you are subject to military discipline. i would say you free him and then you try him.

that is the only way that you can deal with this. and no matter how you do the deal, the west, whenever it deals with hostages, or prisoners of war, always ends up on the weaker side of the deal. the israelis got back one private. private shalik. they gave up over 1,000 terrorists, including many with actual blood on their hands. the mistake obama made and this is part of his arrogance and also perhaps ignorance is to celebrate the release with that press conference. when you make the swap, you know that the terms are uneven. you know the five guys that you have on the screen now are going it return. they are going to try to kill americans. this is a somber and solemn thing that you do with regret and with sorrow. but you do it in the name of a code. >> so you would have made the swap had you been the

president? >> >> yes. >> i would not have. i got a letter from a viewer who said this is like in world war ii swapping patton, eyesen hour and bradley for sergeant schultz. i think there is something to that in war you have to make very tough very, very tough decisions and you have to make decisions what's best for america. totality. here these five, all right, are much more valuable to the enemy and i understand the code that the united states doesn't want to leave anybody behind but you're putting more people in danger, i mean physical danger and as commander-in-chief i would not have made the deal. i would have tried to broker another deal. >> you wouldn't have gotten another deal. you can be sure they have been trying another deal. the taliban considered sit and wait. we can't sit and wait. we're leaving in two years but we're really leaving at the end of this year.

the taliban will be there forever. we know it, they know it. i don't disagree with your analysis. they got a better of the deal by far. they always do. name me one hostage exchange in which the west released hostages and wended up at the upper end of the deal. the reason is we put a premium on individual human lives the way the other guys don't. that's the difference between a civilized society and a bbarbar society. >> the nation will be put in jeopardy. these five guys are commanders. these are guys going to be repatriated back and do an enormous amount of damage until we kill them. i'm making a decision on what's

best for the country. i respect your opinion and i could be wrong. but i want to ask one more question. bob woodward seems to think that the administration is so isolated, it's just devoid of reality, not in the real world. i think there's more to it than that because when you see that, it's almost like rice is flipping everybody off. >> rice thing is inexplic krmpb amca b le. i think she ought to stay home sunday mornings and let other people speak. that's obviously ridiculous and i also think that the way they presented this as a great triumph is ridiculous. let me end with one note. i respect your view. i can see how someone would refuse to make the deal.

it's a tough call if a president were to go the other way i would not attack him on this. but let me say just one thing the prime minister of israel is the toughest guy probably of running a government in the world today and he gave up 1,000 killers for one private. and he knew that would hurt the security of his countrybit and will. but sometimes in the west as a matter of honor for your country you have to do it. >> charles, thanks as always. factor tip of the day, a book you might like and a wild mail segment on the taliban controversy. controversy. we're coming right back.

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. factor tip of the day, a book you might like to read in a moment but first some factor business. tomorrow jesse waters will report on a petition. brand new bill o'reilly poll question four. will you travel to mexico in light of all the problems down there? will you travel to mexico, yes or no. and while you're voting on the bill o'reilly.com poll check out the nifty gifts for father's day including our strong line of gear and sign books. make dad happy. now the mail. john, arizona, bill i was appalled by how you attacked sergeant bergdahl's father. you said he should have shaved before he met the president.

>> i said i didn't like his presentation, thanking allah. let's get this discussion rolling. frank lynn reed, california, i have an honest question. why of it offensive for the sergeant's father to use the word allah. because allah approved. jihad is driven by allah in the mind of these killers. god of islam is not offensive. within the context of the war on terror, citing allah was inappropriate. from florida, i have a question, if sergeant bergdahl is a deserter why was he promoted during the captivity? good question. the military didn't designate him as a deserter. therefore he was promoted at the usual rate for service time overseas. but the military also did not designate bergdahl a prisoner of war which is very interesting. nancy miller, concord, north carolina, nobody is talking

about the va scandal now, president obama is a master of misdirection. so he misdirected into a more intense controversy, nancy? tony, bahamas, bret baier is a class act. they are donating all the proceeds from their book to cardiac research. lyle from new york, bill, one of the most stirring things i've ever seen was the evening ceremony at mount rushmore when they retired the colors for the day. i'll be out there. fargo, north dakota the next night. i'm looking to revisit mount rushmore and badlands. finally the factor tip of the day. as you may know, my co-author for the killings theory is martin dugard.

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