jon: ceremonies underway on new york on the left of your screen, lady liberty under a cascade of rose petals, gifts from the french, and normandy ceremonies underway overseas. we'll see you back here in an hour. jenna: "outnumbered" starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith, and here today, harris faulkner, kimberly guilfoyle, jedediah bela, and today's hashtag one luck city guy, geraldo, he is outnumbered. >> definitely my favorite environment of any show i've ever been on. [laughter] >> it seems like a natural fit for you. >> this is a recurring dream that i have. >> well, get comfortable, because we're going to challenge you on a few things. >> oh, i like that. [laughter] sandra's indiana 1kwre8s.

>> aw! >> well, exclusive new details on sergeant bowe bergdahl, the army soldier converted to islam, declared himself a warrior for allah, and while he did briefly escape, he hung out and played soccer with his captors during his five years in captivity. they even reportedly let him carry a gun at times, this as we learn of reports that bergdahl had a habit of leaving his assigned posts. and the taliban reportedly saying when they found him, he was walking alone and cursing his countrymen. all this as six members of bergdahl's platoon, who have been speaking out about his behavior before his capture, gathered together for the first time in a kelly file exclusive. megyn: raise your hand if you think he deserted. wow. raise your hand if you have some question about whether he deserted. wow. >> when you're in a combat zone, it doesn't matter if you're left, right, independent, jedi, whatever you want to be, okay?

the only thing that matters is you have an american flag on your shoulder. we're all going to ride together, we're all going to die together. and he, i guess, for whatever reason -- i don't know how he felt about us, but we would all die for him, and he left. megyn: raise your hand if you would like to see him court-martialed and see a trial. wow. >> geraldo, i want to get your reaction right away. >> i raise my hand along with those troopers. i'd like to see him court-martialed also. but i tell you, i am seeing something deeply disturbing. number one, i don't care what he did, i want him home. we'll sort it out when he gets back on american territory the same as with the marine sergeant in the jail in tijuana. i don't care what he did, i want him home, we'll sort it out once he gets home. i want bergdahl home, that's the rule, we don't leave anyone behind, period. now, what i am deeply distressed at, and i am seeing it evolve

very, very clearly in the news reporting, in james rosen's reporting, it seems to me as this goes forward, "the new york times" now reporting that he had mental illness. if you are against obama, you're against bergdahl. if you're for obama, you're for bergdahl. you make excuses if you're a liberal, you condemn him if you're a conservative. he has become a political football, and i as a combat reporter am deeply distressed by that. >> but we're all for the u.s. army, we're all for our military men and women, and clearly the words are written on the wall that he was a deserter, kimberly. >> yeah. this is so disturbing to me, but i agree that he should be brought back here, right? and he should face justice. that's what we need in this case, i think for everybody. i don't think it's good enough to say, oh, he's over there, leave him there, who cares. no. his place is here, his place is in court to determine exactly what happened. it seems the evidence so far that we have is pretty overwhelming. let him present his defense, if he has one, and then you know

the armed forces will have some kind of indication, some kind of justice, especially for those who served and tried to go and rescue him and find him and lost their lives. >> but yet the white house is saying there's absolutely no evidence. even though kim bear kimberly's referencing the evidence we have, the white house is still denying everything. >> and the members of his platoon, this was heartbreaking because these men have been smeared. they had to come out and say this isn't political for us. i would die for my fellow soldier. they had to defend themselves and hearing them say things like i don't know what he would have done for us, but we would have given our lives for him, completely heart wreaken. many have said, well, they're just out to make a political point. they're not. they're out there saying i am here for my fellow man. he wasn't here for us. >> so, harris, i want to get your reaction because these findings are according to a privately-released report to fox news by the eclipse group, former intelligence officers and operatives. they're revealing that he was living, basically, a life of

freedom while in captivity by the taliban, engaging in target practice, firing ak-47s, carrying a loaded gun on occasion, kicking around a soccer ball. >> well, you know, there are a couple of things to say about this. taliban commanders have gone on the record, former taliban commanders -- which i find really interesting that they would go on the record and talk about this -- but on more than one occasion back in 2009 or prior to that point they had seen this man walking off base complaining about the people that he worked with. and really tearing down our u.s. military. so it's interesting that he had a history, maybe he was walking off base and walking back. i don't know if we can use the word "deserted" for those occasions, but even among the taliban he had kind of this reputation for hating or being anti-american. so it doesn't really, i don't think, sound too surprising that he would have some sort of relationship of freedom within their confines. but here's my point i wanted to make, and it leads to this idea of court-martialing, because there is this online petition that we've been reading about.

there are about 6,000 to 6,500 who signed onto this petition, and they want president obama to push for a court-martialing. why is that as important right now as getting the story straight about those five anti-american kill ors that we traded for this guy? geraldo, i heard you say we want to get him back, but would you have done it this way? >> in war you deal with your enemy, you don't deal with your friend. you don't make peace with your friend, you make peace with your enemy. i believe that the five taliban -- who had been held, by the way, for over 12 years -- >> we though. >> -- without ever being charged. >> we got that. >> and what they did was before 9/11 and it was not against the united states -- >> you defending them? >> what i am suggesting is that these prisoners of war, i believe that they are prisons of war, will be released when hostilities cease. that's the way it's always been. i believe everybody in guantanamo will be released when we say good-bye to afghanistan.

>> when will we stop fighting the terrorists? when is that going to happen? >> haste, let me ask you -- harris, let me ask you a question, do we keep them forever? >> i won't live forever, so i want to know when -- >> we let the nazis go after world war ii, we let the japanese and their special forces that reaped, raped southeast asia, we let them -- when wars end, in north vietnam, the viet cong. when wars end, you do a prisoner exchange. all they got was they got these five guys a year early. >> but they're significant people that should be held. i don't think we just gratuitously turn them over -- >> for how long? and how do you know what they did? >> well, we know the information we have thus far about the attacks and jihad against the united states that they were involved in, one in particular of significance. these were commanders. these were not people who were just rank and file. they had certain stand, oing, and that's why it's such a big coup for the taliban. that's why other americans

traveling abroad aren't safe because this is what we do, we will trade. and by the way, it's far there secure over there. >> i agree with that. i agree with that. i was there 11 times on extended combat -- >> and this guy in particular, geraldo, this bergdahl, had special forces on the ground looking for him some of the first units out there, he had a capture or kill designation just the same as any high-value taliban target. >> i don't know that to be a fact. i don't know that to be a fact. hold it. what is true and what is not true is far from established, and we can't just go out there. and -- >> that is true. >> and james rosen in his reporting suggests that bergdahl attempted to escape and was kept in a cage. so you can emphasize the fact that he's playing soccer and having fun with these guys, but you also have to suggest in fairness there are reports that he tried to escape the taliban and was kept in a metal cage. >> why such a disproportionate trade though? >> the israelis trade 50 for 1,

500 for 1. >> why 5 for 1? >> we set no terms here. no one's arguing saying, well, maybe this guy shouldn't have been brought back, but why did we give them -- >> i me that i'm the oddball, but i think guantanamo is a crime against humanity. it's a shyster's ploy to -- guantanamo should be closed. >> we have not seen the major case investigation -- >> we've got more on that in just a bit. speaking of bergdahl, in her new book, "hard choices," former secretary of state hillary clinton touches on negotiations with the taliban. and attempts to secure bergdahl's freedom. in a copy of the book obtained by cbs news, mrs. clinton says she raised concerns about trading taliban prisoners. saying, quote: the taliban's top concerns seem to be the fate of its fight beers being held at guantanamo bay and other prisons. in every discussion about prisoners, we demanded the release of army sergeant woa bergdahl who had been captured in 2009. there would not be any agreement

about prisoners without the sergeant coming home. i acknowledged, as i had many times before, that opening the door to negotiations with the taliban would be hard to swallow for many americans after so many years of war. geraldo, i see you reacting already. i wonder what thousand seeing something -- now seeing something like this, what this now means for her potential run. >> i think that i agree with secretary clinton. you know, the problem is you sit down. i mean, i've been in so many wars. when you sit down, you are repulsed by the person on the other side of the table. we sat down with the north vietnamese and the viet cong and negotiated peace. we hated them for what they did to us. when we, after world war ii and you had all these ss troopers and all these other people -- i mean, aside from the handful tried at nuremberg -- it repulsed us. and yet you do it because when wars end, that's what happens. now, in terms of bergdahl and the prisoner swap, i go back to

what the israelis do. they've been involved in combat now for decades. it is routine. you trade with what you have, and you make a deal with what you have. the israelis 5 to 1, 50 to 1, 500 do 1. sometimes they trade scores of prisoners for the dead body of an israeli soldier. >> but it seems to me when we just read that and heard that, harris, it seems to he her concern was more about the perception that the american people would have of such rather than its effect on the nation. >> well, you know, that report goes on to say that mrs. clinton wanted the prisoner swap to be one of a series of confidence-building measures which also included the opening of the taliban office in qatar's capital, doha. she wanted taliban denones craigs whereof -- denunciation of terror. these were a series of negotiations that had been going on, so any side up until this point that said they weren't negotiating, first of all, wasn't telling the truth. now we know there was a series going on, but it wasn't just the

optics. this was a longer sort of long-term view that we could befriend the taliban. and i just don't see evidence of that. i want to know now what this swap has done, again, 5 for 1, all anti-americans, five killers that we know of. they can check that box in their anti-americanism as well. what made that deal so good? did we really think these people would be friends with us? >> this is naive. i mean, it's sophomoric at best. this is no kind of foreign policy that's going to succeed. you don't negotiate with terrorists. who are they? they are thugs, they are criminals, they are jihadists. they hate americans, and they want to do everything they can to kill us. to mistake for one minute that they could be our friends or we could trust them is to, basically, put an x mark to execute american soldiers because that's what's going to happen. >> hillary clinton is a politician. she's protecting herself, her run, and heaven forbid any of these guys come out and do more damage, think of these detainees come out and hurt this country, she wants to be on record as

having said i would not have gone this route. >> all right. well, the negative reaction taking the white house by surprise. how that could have been possible and what it could mean for the president. also, why the swap may with just a preview of what is to come for gitmo detainees. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ sfx: car unlock beep.

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♪ ♪ >> well, there are growing concerns about the five guantanamo bay detainees traded for bowe bergdahl's freedom. they're banned from traveling for one year. now, our own amy kellogg is live from doha, qatar. >> kimberly, there is more than a bit of bling to this place. you can't escape the roar of the ferraris and the maseratis tearing down the coastal roads. there are shopping malls that have canals and gondolas weaving through them. this is a very rich place, but it is rich for the citizens of qatar which these five are not and, frankly, we don't know at this point exactly how the taliban detainees transferred here are living and, frankly, most people it seems in this boom town don't really care. afghanistan is not their war, and qatar in its role as a bridge between some of the more radical groups in the region and the west already hosts a number

of talibanfficials when came here to negotiate peace but so far have not done that. plus the leader of hamas is here as is moammar gadhafi's old foreign minister. now, the taliban did ask that the five men who have been deemed high security threats by the pentagon could at least go to member a ca in saudi arabia for hajj pilgrimage or europe for health care. they're not allowed to do that. u.s. officials tell me they are confident the qataris will keep a sufficient watch on them. the qataris are saying very little except that this, in their eyes, was a humanitarian intervention. that is what the foreign minister said earlier this week. fact of the heart is, kimberly, that after a year these five are free to go back to afghanistan, and that, it seems to me, is where the biggest security threat appears. i've spoken to prominent afghan journalists who say while they understand the u.s. did what it needed to do, it doesn't send a good signal to them about the u.s. being concerned about afghanistan's security after troops pull out if these guys

do, indeed, go back to afghanistan, kimberly. >> all right, amy, thank you. and desite major criticism over the release of those five taliban commanders in exchange for sergeant bowe bergdahl, an administration official reportedly says president obama is moving forward with his push to close gitmo and currently considering releasing another prisoner from began tan moy bay, a detainee who was accused of planning to train and fight with the taliban. this as the official says the government is working to reduce what it calls a backlog of prisoners already approved for transfer. now, geraldo, you've been a strong advocate in this regard to say you're against gitmo, you believe those prisoners should be released. what are your thoughts? >> guantanamo bay prison camp is on the island of cuba. why would the united states of america put its prison facility for foreign prisoners on the island of cuba? we did it so we could avoid the impact of the united states constitution on those prisoners.

it was a shyster's ploy. it was an awful idea -- >> not very start. >> why not a military base in the united states? why not a maximum security federal prison? and after 1 years, they've -- 12 years, it seems to me the taliban and the haqqani gangsters -- who i know very well -- have done quite effectively in terms of pursuit of their war without these five and the others in guantanamo. these people have all been incarcerated since before the major push in afghanistan -- >> so you're saying what's happened with bergdahl does not change your mind one bit about releasing prisoners from gitmo? that doesn't change your mind? >> what do you know that a i don't know? >> that's just the problem, we don't know enough yet. >> we know he's an american g.i., and he's got to be brought home. >> shouldn't we stop releasing prisoners until we find out more? >> you know, one of the things as i've been in combat so often with these guys in every branch of the service, one of the things they take great security

in is a absolute maxim that if anything happens to them, they're going to be brought home, that we will not leave them behind. i don't care who bergdahl is, we don't leave him behind. and when you start making the judgment, oh, this one is this or that one is that and you violate or you waver from that hard principle, then our armed forces will be stripped of what is absolutely the thing that makes them most secure. they know their colleagues -- >> yeah, but, harris, it seems to me he's pretty lucky that he was brought home the way he was, because if those special forces had found him and encountered him -- and they were looking for him -- he would have come home either in a body bag or come home and gone straight to jail. now we see his family at the white house, he's being celebrated as the hero, you have susan rice saying he served with honor and distinction. they have to walk that back because, unfortunately, the evidence is -- >> i don't care. >> it does matter. >> no, it doesn't. because if they were -- i don't

care what he did, i want him to come home, and we'll sort it out here. he'll have a court-martial, he'll have a lawyer, he'll have a prosecutor. those five, six saintedded guy who were on megyn's show -- >> a little bit though, is the axis moving on the story? charles kraut army, fox news contributor, is kind of echoing what you're saying, a little bit only in the sense -- >> i could use backup. [laughter] >> this is probably an unlikely source. >> we're not letting any in the room. [laughter] >> if the choices were the same, he would have done the same thing. i would love to press in with charles on that point, but this is what he said to bret baier. so i'm wondering if maybe the axis is going on. >> i just want to remind people that we're talking about terrorists, and we've just made an enormous effort to make the lives of these five men who did enormous harm to americans a lot easier. they are much happier wherever they are right now -- >> on the beach. >> and that does not make me

happy. >> and gitmo is not a bad place for anybody who's been there -- >> i've been there. >> it's not -- >> 12 years. what, it's going to be 120 years? how long is enough time? >> harris -- >> not long enough. not long enough. >> what about the nazis? how come they were let out? >> this will be your opportunity -- >> sorry. [laughter] >> i promise, i'm good with my word here. it seems like the white house has been caught off guard over the backlash for the deal to freeberg call the. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer says this is just another example of how out of touch the president is. >> i would have agreed with the swap, but with great reluctance, with even revulsion in order to get one of our guys back. but the idea that they would think that the country would want to celebrate this tells you how out of touch they are, and you've got a sense of that when the president said, oh, the debates in washington are being

whipped up as if this is a phony debate, and it's not over fundamental issues where there are arguments on both sides. >> jedediah, is this a case of the white house perhaps trying to write the story before it had gotten out there? >> i think it's a case of them counting on us to be ignorant, to be ill informed, and counting on the media not to do this job. they just expected everyone would be so caught up in the moment of an american coming home that they wouldn't bother to ask any questions about him, and within just an hour, reporters were coming out and saying, hold on, let's question this guy. once again, they cart susan rice out just thinking everyone's going to let her statement sit as is, and no one's going to come in and question her statement. to do with them, we learned with benghazi that you have to question susan rice, and they have. i think they're continually surprised by americans and media who ask tough questions. >> and i think they weren't expecting the courageous soldiers to come forward with the information, because so many of them were told keep this

confidential, don't talk about it, keep it under wraps. but instead, and this is why i love this country, because we have freedoms to be able to speak and to tell the truth. and they came forward at great risk to themselves. >> let's upon be up a picture, if we can -- pop up a picture, because this is the resounding victory we have of the weekend, it's the president with the parents of bowe bergdahl. i want to ask really what this shows, sandra, because clearly we know there was a major classified file on this bowe bergdahl. we know that our own u.s. intel had been looking at him before 2009 and since. and looking at what he was really doing. >> and we also have seen the tweets of sympathy from his father, bergdahl's father, hugging the president there for his captors. that's all been out there. and geraldo's trying to jump? -- jump in. i think the white house was caught off guard by this. initially, i didn't think that. but the lack of ability of the white house to respond to the criticism that is out there right now, they did not plan for

that, they did not -- >> the white house should justly be criticized for bypassing the congress of the united states. they could have informed the gang of eight, they could have had a very select, highly-classified -- >> they should have. >> they should have, and they did not. i think that that is the biggest failing of what the white house did here. they acted unilaterally when they should easily have incorporated leaders in both houses or both parties. >> yeah. bipartisan approach there, too, because both sides are complaining they didn't do that. >> well, now they have a mess because it's become yet another, what do we call it? scandal. and it's what we're all talking about. >> on the other hand, we're not talking about the veterans administration. >> ah. >> scandal after another. >> i'm surprised to hear you say that, geraldo. >> that's a real scandal. >> we'll move on. >> so is this. >> can we take a look at a really huge number? the dow is up 69. look at that. the jobless picture remains unchanged. what brand new fox polling,

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♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "outnumbered." new monthly job numbers, they're out. as the a new fox news poll finds two-thirds of americans feel the economy i is in bad shape. that number includes 28% who believe we're still in a recession. this is the labor department reporting 217,000 jobs were added last month. take that as you will. though the unemployment rate held steady at 6.3%. here we are, guys, five years into this recovery, kimberly, and we're talking about 200,000 jobs added during the month? we're just getting back to 2007 levels. and clearly, people at home don't feel like we are in an economic recovery. >> well, perhaps they don't because these are 200,000 jobs

added back in, but look at the number of jobs that have been lost, and look at the opportunities thaw going to be -- that are going to be lost as well. they're fore gone conclusions, they're not going to happen when you talk about minimum wage being raised, increased taxes. this is stifling and choking to the free market. i want people to have jobs. i want families to feel good about being able to put food on the table, and i think we're still a long way off. but as an optimist, i'll take any inching forward we can get. >> you don't think the minimum wage should be raised? >> i have concerns about it -- >> $7.25 an hour? >> you're missing the point because when you have -- >> well, you live in new york. >> -- people who know the market that sit there and tell you this could actually be counterproductive because new jobs won't be added -- >> slave wages. you can't pay people slave wages. >> so, geraldo, how many jobs have been added? aren't a lot of them -- >> a lot from the left will tout

it's -- >> why are you pointing at me from the left? [laughter] >> you you are literally -- >> you dumb ass from the left there. >> we didn't say that because we'd have the bleep it if she said it. [laughter] >> i want to bring in one other point because we care about our investments -- >> and that's looking pretty good. >> thank you, geraldo. if it looks so good -- i'm sorry. >> on that side today? i love it. >> i mean no -- [inaudible conversations] [laughter] >> let me finish this point. so we are looking at a dow, we just put it up there a second ago -- >> record levels. >> record highs. but the volume is zilch meaning people are not buying into this market, they're not participating, geraldo, because they are fearing something. like perhaps something else is driving in the stock market. these record highs that i have a feeling are going to be touted at the midterm elections as a success for the current administration. but, harris, i want to point out that while some want to argue these markets are rigged by wall

street, it's the federal reserve that arguably has rigged this market, and i say arguably because that's fair. but they have been involved in this rally the entire way, pumping money into this economy. so as they get out, what's going to happen to that stock market? >> i think they've already discounted the fed. the fed is now downsizing the stimulus as they've been providing. they have a date certain, you know, in afghanistan and in terms of the fed's intervention in the market. the fact of the matter is, sandra, that these stocks were driven to record lows by the worst recession since the great depression, and now these businesses are good businesses. i mean, i would buy boeing right now. they've got to -- >> but, jedediah, still people don't feel good, and if they don't feel good -- >> well, that's true. people don't feel good. >> i have to point out with the unemployment numbers, teenagers, 19.2 percent, african-americans, 11.5 percent, republican party, this is your outreach. these people vote repeatedly

democrat. they voted for obama twice. outreach now. not tomorrow, today. [inaudible conversations] >> these are a false positive really. >> and it's going to be a huge thing in the midterm election, i can guarantee it. well, god is mentioned in our pl allegiance, that's for sure, and you find "in god we trust" on our money, but some atheists are upset after a high school principal talks religion at a commencement ceremony. plus, we at fox remember d-day, 70 years ago today. so many americans and our allies storming the beaches of normandy and so many sacrificing their lives so we can all be free. ♪ ♪ ugh. heartburn.

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♪ ♪ >> atheists seeing red after a missouri high schoolal repeatedly invokes god in a commencement speech and prays during a moment of silence. the video going viral. >> it is not politically

correct -- [inaudible] this evening, i would like for us to have a moment of silence this honor of tonight's graduates. during my silence, i gave thanks to god for these students, their parents, their teachers and for this community. [applause] >> well, despite the applause, critics are blasting the speech. a spokesman for the group american atheists say, quote: i find this extremely objectionable. i think it's clear that kevin lowery violated the spirit of the separations of religion and government. this was a dishonorable way for him to forcibly inject his perm religious -- his personal religious views onto his students and into his role as a government official. geraldo, did this principal go too far? is now, he's talking about the declaration of independence, he's talking, mentioning quotes from the pledge of allegiance. this seems pretty common place.

did he go too far? >> i think that foundation should take a chill pill. they're taking it way too seriously. i believe that faith-based -- i'm a catholic/jewish agnostic -- >> wait a minute! [laughter] >> i'll break that down for you. my absolute firm belief is that faith-based families fare better than families that are not faith-based, and i have -- in a christian country, and this is a christian country, i have absolutely no misgivings about a moment of silence, a area, the pledge of allee -- a prayer, the pledge of allegiance. these are traditional in our society, and to make a fuss about them is just like the gay activists making all the noise about the guy from duck dynasty. just do your thing, let us evolve as a people. let people have a moment of silence. let them say a prayer in school. let them say the pledge of allegiance. just chill out. >> i'm with you. >> there you go. [laughter] >> people with this

organization, do they open up their wallets and give back every single dollar that says -- >> yeah, they kicked it out. >> and how do they spend money in this country without seeing the little words on the bottom of the dollar? >> you're a lawyer, where's the constitutional -- >> last i checked, this principal wasn't calling for the establishment of a national religion, he wasn't condemning atheists -- >> right. he didn't do thinking wrong, and unfortunately, these people are just very desperate for attention, they are constantly making complaints, they're verily tickous, i mean -- litigious, i mean, it's on and on to the point where they have no credibility. live and let live. let people have their faith. >> he made a point of it. he should have just done it. he did it to pick a fight, and that's why -- and he got the fight he wanted. >> i'll agree with you, geraldo, i really will. >> hey! sandra -- [laughter] >> you know, he started out the speech, geraldo, by saying so while it would not be politically correct for us to have an official prayer this evening, he went on to do so

anyway. while i don't have a problem with him exposing his thoughts and his prayers to the people, i do have a problem with the fact that he pointed it out and then went on to do it. he was trying to make a little bit of a point. >> who cares? why does that matter, per se? >> trying to make a moment out of this commencement and take away from the kids. >> if you agree that he had a right to do it, yes? >> yes. >> fine. but you just don't like that he was very transparent and open about it -- >> yeah. [inaudible conversations] >> like when we say there's a graphic picture coming up, look away, give people a few seconds. i think he was respectful to the people in the room -- >> the argument is about forcing faith on them, and i don't see them. >> no. >> agreed. >> okay. a young girl's condition improving after she was stabbed 19 times by two friends who said they were just trying to prove themselves to a fictional internet character. an up-close look at the so-called slenderman culture. and you've heard of scorned lovers seeking revenge through

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a mo, but, first, jon scott with what's coming up on the second hour of "happening now." jon: it is the 70th anniversary of d-day, president obama in france where more than 9,000 soldiers died as the allied rescue of europe got underway in 1944. president obama saying the american commitment to liberty is written in blood on the beaches of normandy. here at home, a lo note from

france of sorts, helicopters dropping a million rose petals to thank america for its help in world war ii. the petals fell near the statute of liberty, also a gift from france. also a wreath laying at the world war ii memorial in washington. and another look at the legend of the so-called slenderman, a modern debutinggy man. the internet phenomenon being used as an excuse for a brutal attack by two 12-year-old girls on a friend. but it's also causing a deeper examination of american culture. we'll get into it in the second hour of "happening now." >> all right, jon, we'll be watching. thank you. jon: thank you. >> so i'm totally outnumbered here, loving it. [laughter] but now it's my turn to tell the story. social media, as you know, increasingly intrudes into every aspect of our lives, so couples now are going to great lengths to protect themselves. their signing what's called social media prenups. these are contracts that prevent one partner from sharing nude or

embarrassing photos about the other partner. some couples vowing to pay upwards of $50,000 each time the clause is broken. >> wow. >> so, sandra, do you like this idea? >> i think you might be the authority on this. [laughter] >> my wife should charge me. [laughter] every time i press that button -- >> isn't that a really obscene premoney? wasn't it millions of dollars? >> oh, my god, harris. [laughter] >> what? >> i had a friend who had a deal with his wife, the couple had been together, that every time he cheated, he had to give her a million in cash. that's an interesting prenup. >> i like that one. >> but i think you can have an agreement where you don't share nude pictures -- >> do you have any pictures on social media that you regretted? [laughter] >> what what are you talking ab? playgirl. >> i think that my -- i was going to define what -- [inaudible conversations] >> it's called selfie.

>> i don't think there are many surprises left for the people who have followed me over the years. >> in all due seriousness, you know, in this day and age you can break up with somebody, and, kimberly, they might have a questionable picture of you and say, hey, i don't like you, smack it on the cover of their facebook page. >> you have to be very, very careful. i agree. i like this idea. i'm sure all the divorce lawyers up and down, you know, madison and park avenue like it too because prenups are important. i think it's good because it also brings out a discussion. i don't know if i want to talk about it, hey, let's talk about it. this is the reality, this is today. people posting videos, revenge porn, all of that can get very dangerous. the problem is people who are just dating don't have the protection. >> i was just going to say, and it pops into mind donald sterling. he said horrible thing, but his girlfriend at the time posted all that. so could you get a prenup -- >> it doesn't matter. the prenup doesn't matter. if you take the picture, a nude picture or a sex video, whatever

it is -- >> i would do it. you know, i've dated a couple of guys, and i've broken up with them, and they've gone mad. one guy was showing letters that i had written him to everyone. >> ooh. >> you've got to be careful. >> they go crazy. >> you need big brothers, you don't need a prenup. [laughter] newlyweds seem to be bringing a lot more baggage with them on their honeymoons -- [laughter] x-rated honeymoons also. i mean they're bringing their friends, they're bringing their families on their honeymoon. we'll tell you about the growing trend that has young couples turning their post-up nuptial travels into buddymoons. a buddymoon. >> would you go on somebody else's -- >> yeah, what would you do? [laughter] óqoqúúñ@

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because it is it a great party. >> i agree. >> but the honeymoon i draw the loun. >> i would try it. >> it is intense interaction and you really get to -- >> you want to be alone on your honeymoon. >> it is, i have done this once. one out of two? >> you bring your parents? >> no your friends. >> it is hanky, pafrngy going on. >> with a person. >> why would you bring it otherwise? >> to keep you company. and you just got married and you are meeting your husband for the first time. >> they did the honeymoon on the wedding and everybody was on the boat. >> how did that work out. snshg it was on the honey mon. >> oh, really. it was a interesting character and like one of those reality

shoes. >> i love honeymoon and boats, but friends, i draw the line. >> i can tell. >> if you are not romantic in that first. >> the number one destination and if you are bringing a buddy is dubai. >> harris, my inlaws went with us on the honeymoon. it was grachlt >> hash tag out numbered. >> i don't want to share my man at all on the intimate and romantic. and that is something. >> i am there. >> and in dubai. and stop bringing your friend on group dates, to. >> oh, we go, girl. >> and that is like standing. >> i never done a double date.

>> and my husband brought his golf clubs on our honeymoon. >> sandra wont mind that one at least. >> don't knock it tell you try. it >> that's it for outnumbered. see you back on monday. happening now starts now. the administration on release of bowe bergdahl in exchange. taliban terrorist. and senators on both sides of the oifl trying to get veterans the medical care they need. >> 70 years ago today, alloyed forces stormed the beaches of norandy and how president obama and other leaders are honoring the greatest generation. they turned theatoid and defeated nazi germane.