>> hello, everyone. i'm kimberly guilfoyle, along with bob beckle, eric boling, dana perino, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." the fall out from sergeant bowe bergdahl prisoner exchange intensifies. six of his fellow platoon members who served with him in afghanistan, expressed anger, sadness, and outrage over what they say was his willful desertion five years ago. here they are in a revealing kelly file exclusive. raise your hand if you think he

deserted? >> we knew he had deserted. we knew that he was trying to find the taliban. when i saw him, i said, wow, he looks pretty good. we looked a lot worse than that when we were out there looking for him. >> i would have done everything i had to do, cursing on them, trying to escape, trying to steal a gun, shoot them. i'm not going to be a propaganda piece so my family can see me on the internet. >> whatever his agenda was in trying to connect with the taliban, explain to me how it's honorable. that's spitting in the face to everyone who deployed, came back -- >> wore not there because it's easy, we're there to do a hard job and that's what you signed up to do. >> we all signed up by ourselves. we volunteered. a draft didn't come through. nothing like that. >> he doesn't seem like a captive. he seem like someone who is potentially enjoying himself. >> what did you think when you saw the president with his parents in the rose garden? >> it was hard. i had to leave the room. >> raise your hand if you would like to see him court martialed and see a trial?

wow. there you have. that was a kelly file exclusive last night on the fox news channel, there were some in the politics and administration would call these men liars, say they have a loose relationship with the truth. big problem. they are coming forward. they are not to be silenced. they are coming forward with what they know about the man they served with. >> here are six heroes. one of them was a platoon leader of bergdahl who said unequivocally, get him back and then try him. find out exactly what went on. since that interview, today -- some of the new pieces that come around today, that one of the taliban five or the obama five, whatever you want to call them, the people we traded for bergdahl said he will fight against americans again. he's not done in the fight against americans. that's one thing. unnamed sources, high level

obama advisers had said to president obama advised him against making this trade it would be like sending five four-star generals back. that's who it was like. that's what the equivalent would have been. so bottom line is there were a lot of questions surrounding what went on. i think everyone agrees get the guy back. just make sure you find out what's going on. get that information from him. >> justice delayed should not be justice denied. talk me through the optics. do you think the white house anticipated that you would have soldiers coming forward like this to tell the story and speak openly and frequently about what happened back then? >> it is hard to imagine that they would not, but it appears that they did not, because i think one of things they could have done to mitigate this is to reach out to those families at the same time or to these soldiers and to be able to say look he's going to be able to come back. i think the reason they want to speak publicly. the president made a decision to paint a narrative of bergdahl as

a hero. period, end of sns. no answering of questions surrounding his disappearance nor about the rescue. yesterday, james clapper said -- is reported to have said in a hearing when asked about the health of bergdahl and the urgency to bring him back, he said the intel would not support that. so it's hard to for me to imagine the house didn't anticipate all of this. they could have had a much different week if they had made a decision instead of doing a rose garden ceremony to do a white house photo release of the president contacting the family and susan rice, instead of going on sunday show to say unequivocally what she said to say we're going to get all of the answers. thses a tough deal for america to swallow. they wouldn't have had the week they have had. >> it's been unnecessarily fre nettic for them. you have susan rice saying this man served with honor and

distinction and so many facts flying in the face of that. >> i think you guys are blowing this way out of proportion. it's disgusting. the conditions for the release was a one-year travel ban and they are going to make an annual muslim pilgrimage. they are only going to be praying. i don't know what you are talking about. i hear they might open a goat-only arby's. killing americans is their skill set. we just handed five grenades for a squirt i have an idea, the ta five, they should get a tv show in afghanistan, a round table where they discuss the issues of the day like head lice, bestiality, gang rape, beheading. they would have a goat named casper. but i'm keeping an open mind about this. >> should each one of them host

a separate segment? >> you have one more beheading at the end of every show. >> bob, that wouldn't go well for you in our group. oh, my goodness. >> somebody on the show gets beheaded. >> yeah, yeah. >> one more beheading. >> interesting. bob. >> if i could comment on a few of these things, i don't know of anybody who has called these people liars like you suggested at the beginning, i really don't. >> are you going to respond? >> except for greg, what does that matter. it's not an authoritative source. >> how about "the new york times"? "the new york times" claimed it was these guys fault. it's the truth's fault. is that an okay source? >> i want to bring that in and bob can -- hold on one second. >> you came after me, bob. >> hold on. eric, give me a second here. hold up "the new york times" editorial because we're going to see if this is going to help

bob. i think it's not. it's not going so far so well for him in six minutes in. the rush to be demonize sergeant bergdahl. if anything the report suggests that the army unit's lack of security and discipline was as much to blame for the experience. this is what we're referring to. >> okay. you can take that as meaning that it's their responsibility. but let me put it this way. this guy got away from twice, he wandered away from his base. he had a history of doing this. i'm sure that was in the official files of the military or secret files of the military. when you listen to these guys talk last night, and i have no reason to doubt their sincerity, they gave a definitive statement, he was a deserter. the platoon leader said he was a deserter. when we started this discussion several days ago, it was sent around people getting killed looking for him. that number is backing way off

because unfortunately, i think the right thing to do is there is not much indication that people died directly as a result of trying to find him because he wasn't worth losing their lives finding if this is in fact what this guy is about. how in the world the obama administration could have done that -- knowing -- just knowing what the military had to know, how they possibly could have had a rose garden ceremony is so incomprehensible to me. >> can i -- this thing in the "new york times," it's kind of infuriating. they are a pig looking for trufles. the paper loses more employees than the sherpa industry. this is the reason why -- >> he has the rose garden. >> because nobody tells him his mistakes. without criticism by your friends, you become, weak, clueness, and incompetent which is the only areas that obama has really grown in. >> don't you think that somebody

would have known about this? >> yeah. i think so. >> bolling. >> no, they didn't care. these are the words of susan rice the week before this story broke. they said we need to put some points on the board. i'm not making this up. this is her quote. we need to put boards on the board. so what happens within four days of that quote, they take a victory lap over this trade and they are thinking they are putting points on the board, bob, and what they are doing is they are throwing air balls up and everyone is saying are you kidding me? you're putting points against it, on the other team, the visitors team. >> everybody is saying are you kidding me? how does a collection of people at the white house -- >> they don't get it. >> i don't think they think this guy was going to exposed given his background. >> what bob is trying to say is he's so surprised that such a competent white house would make such a mistake like this?

>> no. it adds to their incompetence. it's one thing after another. after served in ones -- >> we don't know all the information. >> i'm suggesting somehow they got together, smoked a bunch of dope and convinced each other they could get something positive about this. >> if you are staff and you go in and you know the military intel and all the deputy and principles, processes that goes through up until it gets to the president for the final thing, the final decision had to be from the president obama not just on the decision to do the rescue but to also do the rose garden ceremony. can you imagine going into the oval office saying mr. president, we have a great idea, we have no answers to anything but we will like you to go out and speak definitely with bergdahl's father and he's going to speak patchto -- pashto to his son from the rose garden, then you can go to europe is and have a great trip.

and we're going to put points on the board. >> they already know the guy has deserted his base twice before. platoon leader says he's a deserter. >> i think we're agreeing. >> those things aren't a big deal to a certain mind set that sees desertion as like calling in sick for work. >> that's it. it doesn't have the same significance. i don't think they properly vetted this situation. i thinks he's poorly advised. they are voird about the v.a., now they have this. great job. not only was this sloppy, it was dangerous and wreckless to the rest of americans, then there's susan rice, the gift that keeps on giving. roll it. >> i realize there's been a lot of discussion and controversy around this, but what i was referring to is the fact that this was a young man who volunteered to serve his country in uniform at a time of war. that is itself a very honorable

thing. and -- >> with honor and distinction? >> jim, really, this is a young man whose circumstances we are still going to learn about. he is as all americans innocent until proven guilty. military has committed to review the circumstances of his capture, if there is a consequence that results from that, that will be -- that will be delivered. >> wow, greg. >> i like how she gets angry that jim is like saying i'm just repeating what you said, really, really, jim, by the way, based understanding of honor and distinction, you could say the same thing for chelsea manning and benedict arnold. >> on that standard. >> yeah, on that standard. >> it's interesting that she seems to never bear any responsibility for something that she's said and she's asking for patience after she was the one who said what she said. it would have been very easy for her to have added a little bit of a qualification at the beginning of her sentence last

sunday that would have avoided their whole problem. they decided they wanted to have a narrative of a hero, they went with it. >> the heroes were the guys were on the kelly file last night. they brought up a great point. any good soldier would pull out his k bar and not be taken alive. >> would you not think that they say that they knew he was a deserter, it's not worth us sending anybody out to get him? >> they said they would go and guy for him regardless. >> they are stupid enough to believe they are going to get away with this. >> do you have any other explanation? therefore, the conclusion is they are that freaking stupid. there's no other explanation. >> you can't -- you can't -- nobody can get elected president of the united states twice and be that dumb. >> if you have a willing media,

a compliant media -- >> but they are not that compliant. >> are you kidding me? >> the liberal on "the five." >> it's a liberal intervention. we're trying to help you see the light. this is incompetent administration. >> i guess i want to see all the facts before i decide to shoot myself. >> good point. i don't want you to shoot yourself. >> and people, there you have it. consensus has been reached. this is a fox news alert on a friday. don't go anywhere, when we come bark we've got a sneak peek on hillary clinton's new book. later, it's our facebook free-for-all, you know the drill. lots more ahead on "the five." back in a moment.

hillary clinton hasn't officially announced her 2016 white house run, about she's already making her views known in her book "hard choices". open they are disagreement over syria, i returned to washington reasonably confident if we decided to begin arming and training moderate syrian rebel, we can put in place effective coordination with our regional partners. this was the president's call. my position didn't prevail. in her secret meeting with obama, we stared at each other like two teenagers on a awkward first date, taking a few sips of

chardonnay. both barack obama and i and our staffs had long lists of grievances, it was time to clear the air. one silver lining of defeat was that i came out of the experience realizing i no longer cared so much about what the critic said about me. >> i judge a book by the cover. the title of this book was "hard choices." it should have been monica's book. it's tough doing her job. cut her slack. it should have been called i'm not him with an arrow pointing to obama or bill. >> them two. >> i'm going to read you a quote, because she commented in an interview about bowe bergdahl. they said i acknowledge as i had many times before that opening the door to negotiations with the taliban would be hard to swallow for many americans after

so many years of war. i'm sorry, that is in the book, but it refers to -- >> we know that the intel -- i don't know if we know specifically if she was one of the hold outs telling the white house that she doesn't want him released for those particular five. >> in the book, i'm glad she said that. i believe there's some comments on record to say she wasn't comfortable with some of the things that went on. with regard to -- if you just have half a brain you realize, if yoare going to trade five high-level officers for the taliban, for one guy, you are going to open up an opportunity for the taliban to make more people and guess what happened, taliban we're going to have fun, we're going to enjoy this. we're going to take more high-level americans, more military people. our guys are more at risk now in the field and in afghanistan around the world, any terrorist organization, any location now because of this trade.

it's unbelievable, and hillary clinton could see it. it's amazing that the obama administration can't see that. can't see the forest for the trees? >> about three months ago, you said you did not think hillary clinton was going to run for president. we knew the book was coming regardless if she was going to run. do you have any different sense? have you changed your mind on that? >> the a little bit i read about it, it sounds to me i want to settle all scores that have been out there and it doesn't convince me in the slightest that she is going to run. i'm not absolutely persuaded she's not going to run but i think for somebody like her to go through -- unless you've run for this office before, you have no idea how difficult it is, at her age, putting herself again, knowing she's going to get heat from every direction. i may be wrong. having said that, i think she did answer a lot of questions here. she didn't mention the fact that

greg pointed out about monica li lewinsky. the thing i thought was most telling about this, she did say her disagreements with obama in a number of different places. >> that starts to show some distance. >> so that would be one indication maybe she is thinking about it, but -- >> let me ask kimberly this. the washington freebie couldn't reported that two of the pr people who work for hillary clinton, went to the "new york times" say she's being subjected to too much hard scrutiny at this point because she's a private citizen. do you think you can still have the benefits and still be flirting with this? >> no. she lost her private statuslong. that seems weak and immature. i wouldn't want staffers going to the "new york times." that seems not ready for prime

time. you are putting out a book. you are a public figure. you were married to a former president, you were secretary of state during how many scandals? give me a break. >> i want her to run and i want hillary to win because i have to see bill in the white house. i want to know how he's going to sneak women out. is he going to have one of those emergency inflatable slides coming from the window? and. >> there is an underground tunnel that goes underneath lafayette park and i'm wondering if that's not the best way to come in and out. >> thank you for letting the enemies now. >> up next, greg turns the spotlight on president obama is our country weaker or stronger under his leadership. >> later, marking 70 years since

d-day. world leaders honor the soldiers from the normandy invasion. that and more.

>> according to a fox news polls, 55% of voters believe president obama has made our country weaker. we say weaker, he says smaller. the fact is the whole point of his tenure is to take a cadillac and turn it into a prius to go from arrogant to apologetic. america was the biggest loser.

the problem is our president mistook muscle for fat. our legacy needed lipo. it pays to point out what these great men fought for. what replaced them? a distan for values like honor, an obsession with cultural division. a campus clown car mainlying in american self-hatred. today, let's preb the winners whose bravery paved the way for a modern contempt those valu values -- exemplified. as someone in colorado might say, this bud is for you.

>> there was a moving, normandy event today. i watched some of it, but it kientd of caught my eye, this was the interpret testify dance -- interpretive recreation of the invasion. what do you guys make of this? thoughts? >> it's actually -- interesting, just finished reading about d-day. it occurs to me they had to slog through the water to get there. a lot of the amphibious landing craft, they had the ties wrong -- the tides wrong. the one thing that amazed me they threw up hooks and went up in the face of machine guns, took 90% of casualties, and yet paid it and broke through. normandy was a gutsy call. you got to given eisenhower a lot of credit here.

churchill wanted to go up through italy and southern france and i think it was one of those things that's just remarkable. the last thing i'll say about that, you got to give the canadians, they took an enormous beating that day. they lost a larger percentage of their forces than anybody else. >> dana, i love this story. there's an 89-year-old man in england who escaped from his nursing home and he was missing for 12 hours. they found him in normandy with his comrades. >> i love it. you also see those who parasuited in -- parachuted then are redoing that on this anniversary. there's something about them wanting to go back and witness it and i love that we still have so many of them here. we need to make sure that we're taking better care of them. that's one of the things i think my -- both my grandfathers fought in world war ii. when you talk about values and

maybe the values that i have now, they may be ridiculed by half of america at this point but i'm learned them from them and i'm proud of it. >> have grits been replaced by grievance? >> can i get back to what you talked about. you pointed out this white house is seen as less competent than the previous two administrations but there's silver lining in this all. the obama approval rating is soring in yemen and afghanistan. >> it's inconceivable that anybody would have different poll numbers than they have in the last couple months considering what they have gone through. one week, he announced he was

gay, two he had been arrested for drunk driving, and what were we supposed to do? . we fell 44% in the polls. >> you have to google that story. i would have remembered that. >> it change every time he tells it. >> the aiming of the girl -- -- >> kimberly. >> look when i see this and i look at the footage, i can't get enough of it. i'm ignoring bob. i'm going to tell you when you think about it what they fought to get a little more of that beach, so many americans dying and fighting, that's why all these stories and these scandals matter because they lived, they served, they died for our freedom so that's why people are upset in this military and in this country when you see somebody in a story like bergdahl, the administration, the lack of regard for veterans, the v.a. treatment. we're better than this. look who we come from, look at

the people who fought and died for us, we owe them a debt of gratitude and service. >> don't lay this all on obama. remember, it's the reagan administration that negotiated with terrorists. >> oh, my god. >> that's history. that's fact. >> am i being petty? >> about the interpretative dance? >> no, about the gum chewing. if bush was chewing gum, people would have ripped him to pieces. maybe it's nickerette. if you have gum, then you have to swallow it. >> you weren't president at a d-day memorial. was there someone who could tell him to lose the gum? >> from every decision, have having bergdahl as a father in the rose garden to gum chewing

at normandy -- >> you would say spit it in my hand. give it to me. >> that's why i asked. >> it's not our fault that he can't do anything right. what are you going to do? >> you think you got the word pam pers next. >> stick it under the podium like you did at that time. >> don't move, our facebook [ male announcer ] identity theft ...

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>> welcome back, back by popular demand it's facebook friday. we asked you to send in your questions. we'll get started with the answers right away. kimberly, i know you love to eat salami and chicken. how do you keep your figure? >> because those are high in protein. it's like atkins for por toe

reek cans. >> to greg from shirley b. what is your favorite advice from your mom? >> this is a good question because -- our sound guy, jack, when his dad was dying, he was asked some advice. he said what can you tell me that will make my life better i thought i will do the same thing? i asked my mom that. i said mom what should i do for the rest of my life and she said talk slower and i thought she meant then. what can i do -- what can i did to make my life better? and she said talk slower on the show. i swear to god. >> always follow advice. >> dana, what is your favorite song to play as a country dj?

>> i don't remember the song i like to time. 2k a.m., billy ray siers's achy breaky heart was the number one song and i had to play it every hour on the hour. every saturday around 3:00 a.m., it was number 666, crazy by pat patsy cline. >> bob, kevin b. if you can write a letter to your younger self, what is the young piece of advice you would give to young bob? >> to stay healthy and get off of drugs and alcohol 30 years before i did. >> to eric from keenen ann. eric, i notice you are wearing a corded bracelet. >> i made a promise to my son.

i can't really explain what the promise was. do you miss being in the judicial system or do you enjoy broadcasting world more? >>. >> i definitely miss it with you i feel like i have a passionate voice here as well. >> and greg, how did you and tv's andy levy meet? >> i was writing for the huffington post believe it or not and he was leaving comments on the blog and it was better than the things i was writing. >> has jasper ever embarrassed you at any time? >> every day. >> no. jasper has served with honor and distinction. >> and arousal. >> i can attest to that. i have the photos. >> what would it -- if you were to write a book, what would it be about? >> funny i'm writing a book at

it right now. the title is i should have been dead. from the dark into the light. eric, were you part of a union when you played pro baseball? >> never. >> did you have to pay a fee. >> i never was part. i was a minor league baseball player. >> what's your worst memory of high school? >> i loved high school. i thought i was amazing and i had good hair. >> anyone have a bad memory? >> when i got in trouble for ditching once and i got detention. >> oh, gee, that's terrible. my worst memory is blowing up the toilets with cherry bombs. >> is that what you call it? >> my first day of high school on the bus, i got punched in the face because i sat in the

senior's seats. with the start of summer, what is your best memory of summer from childhood? >> it's always the last day of school. when you walk out, you throw all your stuff all over the place, you beat up a mailman, you break windows. >> throw cherry bombs in the toilet. >> mine, every summer i will go live in ireland since i was five years old. >> every summer i would go look for nude beaches. >> i loved my grandpa's ranch in wyoming. and coming up, california chrome, his inspirational story and our predictions for the big race coming up.@xw@ñ@ñ

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>> california chrome would make history tomorrow by being the first triple kroup winner in 36 years and what's equally amazing is the story of chrome's co-owner, steve coburn. not your typical blue blood kentucky owner. he's explained on hannity how his colt has defied all odds. s. two guys work hard every day, $8,000 on a filly that really didn't like to race. bred her to a $2,000 stallion, and end up with a multimillion dollar horse. it's a fairy tale coming true

for us. >> what an amazing story. you got blue collar people, $10,000 total to buy the mare, to get it bred. i like this one. >> i'm going to say this is the one. i like this. >> i like to watch history being made and i think america needs a win this week. it would be make everybody feel good. >> you think obama has got a horse in the race? >> like jasper is america's dog. >> i know you don't follow horse racing but it's a great story. >> it's a lot of glue there. i love horses. i love horses. some say too much. but i actually look up to the

jockeys. i love horses. >> the jockey has done very well. >> i hope california chrome wins. we feel like it's america's horse. like jasper is america's dog. >> you know how this horse wears the breathe right strips so he can breathe more. i made a picture for you today. this is america's dog. >> let me say this. if you are going to bet tomorrow, this is my advice. two of three horses i think are going to come in. california chrome, ride on curlin'. >> how about california chrome is in the number two position? in the secretariat position.

>> ride on curlin', and wicked strong is running off at -- let me see. 6 to 1. that's a good horse. all three of those are good horses. the question is can they make a distance? this is a mile and a half. i think california chrome can do it. >> one more thing is up next. >> one more thing is up next. >> bob just forgot he was on -- at his current pace, bob will retire when he's 153, which would be fine if bob were a vampire. but he's not. ♪ he's an architect with two kids and a mortgage. luckily, he found someone who gave him a fresh perspective on his portfolio. and with some planning and effort, hopefully bob can retire at a more appropriate age. it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade.

time now for one more thing. bob is aware that he's on live television now so things should be improving. bob. >> i want to say congratulations to my lovely daughter mckenzie who graduated from college yesterday -- >> high school. >> excuse me, high school. my advice to everybody who has kids out there, please stay close to them because they grow really fast. i want to say secondly that i want to wish happy birthday to the old of the man i know, peter mcmahon. >> we talk about having the fool of the week. it's finally arrived. roll the animation. so now here's what happened. today, i was watching fox and friends this morning, on d-day,

chris dawth daughtry was asked to play one more song. >> i tell you what since today is d-day plus 70, what patriotic song could we all sing? >> i'm off the clock. >> he left. >> he walked off the stage and said i'm off the clock on d-day. chris, you are the fool of the week. >> wow. that's pretty hardcore. >> maybe he didn't know any songs off the top of his head. >> maybe the song was called i'm off the clock. >> that was really brutal. don't judge lest you be judged. >> you know i love twitter. the cia has just joined twitter. we cannot confirm nor deny that this is our first tweet.

very clever. >> i follow cia but i'm not sure i want them to follow me back. >> they are already following you. >> does your dog have a tweet? >> we are one and the same. >> i'm going to be o'reilly tonight. and greg's band phrase, i didn't get the memo. why is it that two people in an elevator wearing similar color clothing, the third person says oh, i didn't get the memo. you know who i'm talking about. >> your wife travels a lot doesn't she? i understandable now. >> can you talk slower? >> are you going to bet -- >> but it's my turn now. i thought you had gone. i can't handle it. i'm in tonight for greta van susteren at 7:00 p.m. i hope you will join us there. it's going to be a great program

because it's been a very news week. thanks for spending time with us today. don't forget to set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." have a great see you monday at 9:00 p.m. welcome to "hannity." we'll be joined by a studio audience made of political, military and other experts to help us investigate the bergdahl trade and deadly consequences it could have for americans in the future. you'll meet families of the fallen soldiers who lost their lives in an effort to save sergeant bowe bergdahl, the former captive who dechaired himself to be a warrior of islam. this edition of "hannity" starts right here right now. >> after nearly five years in