that's our show for this week. this is mike huckabee from new york god evening and god bless. stay tuned for "justice with judge jeanine." >> tonight new poll out from the decision to release 5 terror leaders in exchange for bowe bergdahl an american held hostage by the taliban. some senior officials in the u.s. military advised against the swap telling the president this was against the deal. i am megyn kelly. >> jim engel spoke with senior for another in the series of ugly revelations about the prisoner trade the president made a week ago. the source saying that the president was told this deal would be quote handing over some four star generals of the taliban in exchange for a soldier who appears to have walked off base oftn his own an

perhaps worse, although he will be investigated. the source said many in the military call bergdahl a traitor a term they didn't choose lightly. we asked whether this was a good deal. we were with six members of bergdahl's platoon yesterday. you will hear their moments. first to a man with deep contact and a long history in the pentagon. the general is a retired four star general chief of staff in the u.s. army and fox news military analyst. good to see you tonight. let me start with sergeant bergdahl. there were reports today that were connected to james rosen's reporting that he may have converted to islam, declared himself as a warrior of islam trained on ak-47's with the enemy. he did try to escape not just once but twice reportedly. given your history in the army

what does that tell you? >> first of all, the sources that james rosen had was a private contractor working for the government and one that has a very good reputation that provided that kind of information, collaboration with the enemy and also escaping multiple times. what the military does is they try to confirm those sources as well as the cia that what we do know for a fact because of confirmation from multiple sources that bergdahl did in fact escape and obviously was recaptu recaptured. what we don't know is we haven't been able to confirm how many times he escaped other than that one time and how many times he attempted. we have not been able to confirm the collaboration aspect of it. that's where we stand. i suspect we may not get much more information. this much is going to happen, megan, when he gets into the hands and he's ready for it after this decompression he is going through in the hands of very experienced highly skilled

interrogators who can earn his trust, i mean generally earn his trust and then unburden the guilt that he has and work with him even if he is an islamic ji addist, i am convinced at the end of that which may takes days or a couple of weeks, we will actually know the full story on sergeant bergdahl. >> if he did in fact do those things that james rosen is reporting did he violate the code of conduct in the military? oo first of all violated the oath and code of conduct, and secondly if he seeks favor from the enemy that's a violation of code of conduct which governs our behavior in captivity. if he collaborates with an enemy this is a violation of the code of conduct. however, if he tries to escape, actually escape that's upheld with code of conduct and that is a courageous act which should be

respected. oo a oo it is a very tricky situation. i want to get to the guys who were released. even our former defense secretary leon panetta was against this not to release these soldiers these taliban soldiers given the ongoing war and i assumeled it would never happen. >> well, that doesn't surprise me. i have been around leon panetta for a number of years. he's an abc slults straight shooter. here's the issue. general mcchrystal and general petraeus and general alston and general allen have all made recommendations to this administration on war policy issues in iraq and afghanistan. the president has rejected summarily every single one of them during the residual forces, et cetera. it doesn't surprise me on an

issue as essential as this is those who posted a fight made a recommendation we should not make this trade and provided the rationale for it. that was ignored and rejected as has all of their other recommendations over the past four to five years. >> general, thank you for being here. >> it is an under statement to say the administration has taken a lot of heat on this deal. a lot of that has fallen on national security advisor susan rice. after she decided to go on the shows this time suggesting bergdahl served the military with quote honor and distinction. then she was given the opportunity to walk that back. here's what she did instead. >> i realize there's been a lot of discussion and controversy around this, but what i was referring to is the fact that this was a young man who volunteered to serve his country in uniform at a time of war. that is in itself a very

honorable thing. >> when we spoke last night to some of the soldiers who served with sergeant bergdahl they had a different take of his service. >> he is not a hero. he didn't serve with distinction. that is a spit in the face of any one in the army and any one who died for him. >> i don't know how he felt about us but we would all die for him and he left. >> raise your hand if you think he deserted? raise your hand if you have some question about whether he deserted. wow. >> charles kraut ma'amer fox news contributor author of new york times number one best seller "things that matter." a perfect father's day gift by the way. he had the opportunity within days of making that statement to walk it back, she choose option d. >> the oldest rule in politics is when you are in a hole stop

digging. the fact that he put on a uniform doesn't distinguish him from any one else in the military. what distinguishes him would make him end up in captivity s created the whole problem he ended up with the release of the five taliban leaders is the fact that he took off the uniform. that is the reason we are here. the first thing is, it is inconceivable she would have said it in the first place. no explanation. once you say it, you say i misspoke, i was thinking of him joining but there is a question about his alleged de certification. there is something about susan rice. she really ought to stay in bed. >> it is interesting to listen to you. i know you said that you believe, you might have made this deal to get an american

soldier home and have a trial. but you have had real directions of the way the president has handled it. how could they have done it in the way that they could have done it in this way? >> you could have said we understand how high the price was. we are not going to understand the guys released there's any real prevention of their activities. of course they are going to return. of course they are going to rejoin the fight. we know about the check the history of the man that is being released. you simply level the american people. you say this is a terribly different choice. it is the one where we understand and respect other americans who made the contrary choice. instead of the president arrogantly and narcissistic cliching yes, they are chipped

up as if there is no arguments on the other side as if all of the democrats who are upset about this are making it up. what the president said this is a some der day a terrible decision it is a deal i do with great reluctance rather than spiking the football having the rose garden ceremony. i believe the president actually thought this is a victory. susan rice, to go back to susan rice, actually said that this is an extraordinary day for america. it is a somber and dark day. this is a defeat nfor the unite states. yes if i had been the commander-in-chief i would have made the same choice. but with great reluctance. the fact that the president can't see that, the fact that he thinks everybody is' posing him

presumably is as a political motive is simply shocking. it tells you that he doesn't understand the gravity or the nature of what he has done. >> charles krauthammer good to see you. thank you for being here. >> as we sat down for our exclusive they talked about his service and capture and the feeling that bergdahl quote left him behind. left behind what they said last night about the administration their attacks on the motive and up next for the very first time the platoon answered the question was this a good deal? >> i think after this happened we have all said if that was me you could leave me there because i signed on the line to dine for my country. urce of fiber to help support regularity. urce of fiber

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back now >> sources tell fox news senior military officials advised president observe not to trade the taliban 5 for hostage. he came a muslim in captivity and called himself a warrior of islam. in our exclusive we brought together six members of bergdahl's platoon and asked about the trade. here now, their answer.

>> perhaps the most important question, regardless of what you feel about bergdahl do you believe the prisoner swap was worth it? do you agree with the prisoner swap? raise your hand if you do. not one of you supports it. why not? >> those are very bad people. they are not an office clerk. just because they go away for a while they are not going to stop what they are doing. they continue to do it and they will always continue to do what they do. >> it will only be harder now do you think they are going to be they let us free but they held us prisoner. >> presidethe president remind are an american soldier and left us behind. >> within a year they are going to be back in afghanistan essentially destroying everything we worked and the whole mill stair rehas worked to

build us up. >> you trade prisoners out of gitmo. even if it's money or prisoners, i can't really remember us doing that in the history of our country. it doesn't matter what another country does. >> does it matter to you because some of the president's defenders said by the time they get out from their custody in qatar, qatar is supposed to be watching them for a year, the war in afghanistan will tickcally be oefrp even though they have a reserve force there. >> the bottom line is these guys terrorized the afghan people. not just that they are terrorizing americans. they are going to go back to afghanistan and continue to terrorize the people who live there. >> guys who went over there to fight for this country they were fighting the taliban to see the leaders get back out.

>> i would never trade my life for a prisoners. >> ever? >> you would not if you were the one in captivity. >> i think we have all after this happened talked to our families and said look if that was me you can leave me there because i signed on the line to die for my country. i deployed expecting -- not expecting knowing that i could die. if i got captured and you are going to release five high level taliban leaders no, i am one guy. no one cares about me. a lot of people care about those guys and they let them go. >> you would rather die in captivity. >> i think every single one of us would say that. >> even if they are not in afghanistan now who is to say they are not passing notes or passing orders or passing recruitment things or whatever. just because they are in a different country doesn't mean they can't effect something else in another country. >> this was just posted that

said, yes, this will absolutely encourage us and re realize how valuable our little girl was and men are important like this soldier. >> it has to be some what chilling. >> people, soldiers, marines armed forces that are deployed puts their price on the head. >> how do you feel about the fact that they sanctioned it. he had the advisors around him supporting. >> i know he's an american. i don't want any one to get us wrong. an american is back here. it's not good for any one when someone is held in his case quote-unquote captivity. it is not good for anybody. the price he paid not worth it at all. you can stay there until we can figure something else out.

i can speak for everyone. the military knew who was going on. it's not like these things that we are saying they knew they came up with. they knew as we learned these things they knew this would happen. >> that's why we are speaking out. if they knew all of this, then why did they go to this level to get him back? >> this was the first time the group since they left afghanistan and they had a lot more to say. up next their take on what happened to sergeant bergdahl and why. >> it doesn't matter what his motives were. we all took an oath and we all had to abide by orders. you don't just leave your fellow americans to join somebody else. get the flexcare platinum from philips sonicare and save now. philips sonicare

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documenting sergeant bergdahl may have collaborated with the enemy while in captivity. i asked the members in control about that. >> evan you were the former sergeant of the team that bergdahl was on. what do you think about the team that he converted with islam that he fraternized openly with captors and declared himself a warrior of islam by august of 2012? >> initially after he left we knew he deserted. we knew that he was trying to find someone who could speak english so he could talk to the taliban. that was known to us at the time that we were on the ground when he left. >> trying to find someone who speaks english could mean he had a god complex doesn't mean he is going to collaborate with the

enemy>> city point america wants to hear what he has to say. we can prove he deserted. >> raise your hand if you think he deserted? >> raise your hand if you have some question about whether he deserted? wow. go ahead. finish your point. >> once he got with the taliban, he got connected with em this, at that point what happened after that we don't know. we have to wait for his answers. what is coming out now about him converting to islam and those things, we all heard those reports, too. the we are all from the army and efrpg. >> there is somed word of this while in afghanistan and when he returned home. i personally remember hearing l. whether it was report on the news suddenly and no one grasped on to it, i heard these things. whether it's through the rumor

mill and clearly whether these documents are out there is no way to prove it. >> when you think of him in captivity and when you see him being released coming home. do you think this is what i had to do to do to survive saying i converted to islam and took up arms against the united states. what do you think about that? oo i would have done everything i have to do cursing them trying to escape swinging on them, try to shoot a gun, shoot them. i am not going to be a pron began dau piece so my family can see me on the internet. >> you were his roommate prior to this. >> what were his motives for deserting. it doesn't matter what his motives were. we all took an oath and we have to abide by the orders.

you don't believe the fellow -- leave your fellow americans. >> civilians as you guys did volunteered to protect america thinking well he was disillusioned, he was scared. he walked off. help us to understand what this time isic loo. >> it is not an easy time. >> we are not there because it's easy. we are there to do a hard job. that's what you signed up to do. >> what's the best evidence you had that the night he went missing and ultimately wound up captured, he was doing it intentionally. >> the morning that we found out he was missing someone went to wake him up for his guard ship. his weapon, his bulletproof vest they were in the tent. we looked where we were it was the size of two-acres some wired

some areas where someone could walk right up. it wasn't a structured base with walls and a gate. we had bunkers, that was it. it only took a few minutes to look around and see that he was not there. at that point we knew nothing. he ju he was gone. we were by the neighboring village. we could find any one to give us what they saw. we got out about 10 feet of where we walked out and two boys who were walking to school came up to us and said, hey, there was an american crawling through the weeds that way. they pointed in that direction. that's the lead we followed because that's the only lead we had. >> i was on the patrol. >> how many had a conversation to him prior to the night of him missing he said i might go off into the mountains or india some day. >> he said that to me.

a week or two prior we were on a mission we got stuck on top of the mountains for about a week or so. just sitting around waiting to do our guard shifts or whatever. making jokes or whatever and he says, i can see myself being lost in these mountains. i said i couldn't see myself here but maybe in colorado or alaska. i don't want to be stuck in the mountains in this country, personally. >> it was roughly a week ago the soldiers who served with bergdahl began to speak out and the strant about the administration speaki painting him as a hero. they questioned their credibility their motives even their sanity at one point. their reaction to all of that is next. in a combat zone, it doesn't matter if you're left, right, independent, jeti,

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in a sweet from a official who himself was a vet. how did that feel? >> let's set this up. it has gone from told you you couldn't talk then decided to talk when they started to say their version and now that you started to talk you have got administration figures calling you swift voters and psycho paths. who would like to take that? >> i am flattered they are actually acknowledging us, shows we are kind of making a point here. that is very important to what we are trying to portray our message. jumps to conclusions to say he was responsible for those deaths. >> the guys who were looking for him? >> i need more evidence to say that. >> now at the same time when bergdahl left and we knew that he then was trying to find someone who spoke english so we could talk to the taliban and we knew he was then trying to make connections with em this, the mission changed. just bergdahl leaving the whole mission changed. it went from our hearts and

minds just going to villages trying to find the taliban and helping people to a search -- we have got to search for this guy. >> this is a big deal. it changed everything. >> when you saw him get out of the hole copter you saw the video do you remember that? how did you feel when you saw that? >> when i saw him i said wow he looks pretty good. he looks a lot worse than when we were looking for him. >> after watching the whole video it was uneventful. he handed them oef saying you heard he was sickly and stuff. >> i want to ask you about the attacks on you. you were asked by the army to sign a nondisclosure. you are servicemen you do what you ask. you sign it. what made you speak out. was there something that upset you? >> well, we were told, you know, you can't -- some people who haven't spoken out they signed some official ones.

we thought this was more of a gag order. shouldn't talk about it until you get home. >> why did you do it? why did you feel the need to speak about it now? >> the truth needs to come out. exactly why it happened, when it happened. >> what did you think when you saw his parents in the rose garden? >> didn't know what to think about that. >> i had to leave the room. >> we were all in the army, if he makes a mistake, if matt makes a mistake, they do something to violate the military justice code they get a court-martial company article 15, whatever that may be they be held accountable. it's not fair to the men who served the nation honorably and done the right thing, made mistakes maybe, came back for it and did bigger even greater things to have him do something completely wrong which is de certification and come back labeled as a hero and not be punished at all. >> we talked before about susan

rice saying he served with honor and distinction these guys are not big fans of that comment. i will say it this way. then jay carney was asked to explain that and here's what he says. >> sergeant bergdahl put on the uniform of the united states voluntarily and went toer with a f -- went to war with the united states voluntarily. that takes honor and it is a mark of distinction. >> he also voluntarily left us all behind to do his own thing. >> i know a lot of people in the army who didn't serve with honor. >> signing on the bottom line knowing what you are getting yourself into and joining the military knowing you are going to deploy that's an honorable thing right off the bat. that's great. it was true at the time for him. then he walked away in the middle of afghanistan on the furthest front lines you could be on to go seek out the taliban. >> you feel that was an affront to you his service was honored.

>> saying that's honorable saying walking away, whatever his agenda was in trying to connect with the taliban explain to me how that is honorable. >> they seem to be trying to predate it. >> it is spitting in the face of everyone who deployed came back. >> every single person in the military not even just the company. >> what do you make of the reports that white house aids are saying you guys are swift voters and even the president and top aids complaanybody compg about this it is political. >> we made it completely clear. this is will most we ever talked about it. this is not politics. this is about the fact that bergdahl walked away from us went to try to find the taliban. we know that for a fact. we were all there. there is not one person you would find who would say we don't believe that. it is clear as day.

that's what we are trying to put out there. he is not a hero did not serve with distinction. what do you think their family says? they don't get their loved one back. >> are you guys republicans or democrats? >> doesn't matter if you are left, right, independent, jedi, whatever you want to be. the only thing that matters is you have an american flag on your shoulder he's my brother, he's my brother, he's my brother. we are all going to ride together and die together. for whatever reason we would all die for him, we would all die for him and he left. >> i considered him my really good friend. it hit me maybe a little harder than the other guys but it all hit us hard because he was one of ours. >> if you could see him today what would you ask him? >> i would ask him why. >> i think collectively, he is a team leader and we never got

closure on anything. we don't know why he did it and all we want to know is why. we have enough time to deal with our feelings about it. we need closure oon this. it is not just the people who were there. >> raise your hand if you would like to see him court-martialed and go to trial? >> just getting his perspective and what he is going to say, you don't go up to a murderer, oh, did you do it. no, i didn't, oh, you are free to go. >> how can you say he deserved it without getting his testimony. >> if he says no i didn't deserve it. all those guys were lying. >> what about the files all of these classified files nobody can see why can't they bring those to the public light? >> is there anything that he

could say that could persuade you that he didn't? >> he left the brothers, soldiers leadership. he left the country. >> he is a u.s. citizen. he hasn't been discharged so he is a soldier. i believe he deserves due process. if that leads to a court-martial, so be it. >> we want him to be held accountable for what he has done. >> they are all on our facebook page which is facebook.com/the kelly file. like it, share it, leave your thoughts there and let us know what you think. >> up next, dennis miller you will hear his take on the taliban leaders, and that's just the beginning. ng term goals. ng term goals. diversifying. dip! you got our attention.

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school of theater and television. that is getting angry reaction from veterans across the country. earlier this week i sat down with radio talk show host and median dennis miller for his reaction on that and so much more. >> can we say it's miller time? >> that's o'reilly. >> you know jane fonda, do you circulate in the same circle? >> she was a great barberalla. she made sense to me then. >> the thing about jane is, i don't know her, but from afar i should say this. any time a woman, she is a strong women and i see her parroting the moves of her old man all of the time. she is married to roger badene, a tabletop dancer at hotel and she marries and she is sitting on a gun then marries ted turner

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morons from the care bears will start riding. >> if ibraham hooper comes up. >> his real name is doug. >> abraham doug. >> doug hooper. >> in any event let me ask you this. in the news lately has been bowe bergdahl prisoner swap. >> i am watching a show the other night. i forget what you were saying you are nice. why don't you light doug up. we have this more ron saying the problem is gitmo. that, that's the problem. they are cooled out over there. that part of the world has never been tight. the answer is the right answer. you know why they are nuts in the middle east? they are nuts. wasn't like they were cool all along and they opened gitmo and said my god there's a prison. >> not like we did it. >> i would shave all of those guys. i see the picture of them and i

go, here, our guy daniel pearl gets taken tcut his head off on videotape. we get them at gitmo they look like they are 235 pounds. >> they have soccer fields to play on p. >> i went to gitmo once. i flew in and got all of these over weight guys shirtless plying soccer and for goodness sakes our soldiers are busting their ass and these guys are setting fat. >> is it an hour of you straight, a full hour? >> look at luke. look at his muscles. >> what are we doing? we are on the subway train in the french connection. >> look at the guys. >> in front of the show you are my co host. >> so you do a full hour. by yourself or is o'reilly on

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a new report out thi >> a new report out accuses hillary clinton of trying to control the press. they held a secret meeting with the new york times. blasted for unfair coverage. joe klein chronicled the clin fons for over two decades. column mist for time magazine and author of "primary colors."

>> you entitled this article the myth of inevitabilitinevitabili. everybody think he's inevitable and nobody can stop it. >> that's what everybody thought in 2002. >> there doesn't team to be a barack obama bubbling up in the democratic party. >> in the party you have a lively pop louse movement on the left. you have the former governor of montana who doesn't have a clue. >> the clinton machine will crush them. >> no? >> no. >> you argue in the piece if that's going to happen she needs to warm up a little. loosen up and warm up. >> iveng be more candid. the way they try to control the press is stupid. we can't be controlled.

>> i doubt the new york times can. and you know, the quote was i think in a political article she hates you just get used to it. >> the press? >> yes. >> i don't think that's true across the board but the way they try to deal with this is her bringing bagels back to the back of a bus. >> i love her and i also love carbs. >> what i say in the piece is she would be much better served if she brought candor to the back of the bus. >> is she capable of doing this? >> rightly so. there have been unfair taxes to them. >> but still, most of the scandal louse stuff proves to be not so scandal louse lately. >> i don't see what they have to complain about.

the left wing in particular barack obama they choose him over her. but in general the clintons have had a much easier time with the press than some of these right wing republican candidates have. >> you remember white water. >> it was live under oath by the president. >> relit kate monica lewinsky? >> we are if she runs. why can't we talk about mitt romney's bullying in high school why not talk about hillary clinton and what she did in the white house. >> it had legs. >> mitt romney's dog on top of the car. >> that was just mocker re. >> why is she fair game and he's not? >> she is fair game with a lot of things. they are all matters of

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