thanks for watching us. we appreciate it. this is the kelly files. see you monday 9:00 p.m. oh >> hollywood knows man is destroying the earth. >> i exploited this woman who works at fox. video games cause murder. >> new federal standards will fix education. >> they were on the front line and we support common core. >> income inequality is destroying america. >> this iss the defining challenge of our times. >> new york times is not liberal. >> they are not ideological.

>> popular nonsense. that is our show tonight. >> now, john stossel. >> since we titled the show popular nonsense we start with hollywood which lives or dies based on popularity. basically a new god zezilla mov came out. >> we awakened somebody. >> the pol takes are killing me. i plan to see godzilla then the read the director said the movie is really about global rm with a -- global warming. hollywood makes wonderful movies with useful messages.

it shows individual resisting government that uses coercion to control people. dallas fire club xroe motors entrepreneurs and opposes over bearing fda rules. they show clark kent fighting the government's surveillance apparatus. good for them. hollywood usually doesn't get it right. it is rare with an actor sees popular nonsense like the character dion does in the movie and tv show clueless. >> who cares it's irrelevant to our lives. >> that was stacy dash. here she is 19 years later a new fox contributor. what have you learned since then? >> hollywood is very opinionated. more aligned with the opinions of liberals in hollywood it's okay. if you have a different one, no, not so okay. >> also joining us is kris,

movie critic for bright bar.com. you call hollywood a bubble society. >> did you look at the greatest gallup poll it says global warming ranks low in the priority list and yet it pops up more and more. sometimes a major theme sometimes the director is obsessed with it other times it seeks in. it is not something that is important to the way it flowers in. >> global warming is a better movie topic. i can see it is might not just be politics. >> it is kind of a lecture. a lecture doesn't really play well. >> this movie noah isn't actually a lecture. i thought it was a religious story. sometimes the movie is a global warming story. >> you got it all wrong. >> the largest theme is

environmental right. >> maybe the department has come into play as well. but apparently not. >> it is about good, evil, devotion, forgiveness, redemption. >> had they aligned it more with the biblical story of noah then maybe they would have gotten a larger audience, more eyeballs, more money. >> religion is not in their hearts. fear of global warming is. i mentioned the god zell law movie earlier. let's play another trip. >> it's going to send us back to the stone age. >> this is where you lose me. it's about giant lizards fighting. if we are trying to find deeper meaning in that then we all just need to chill out. >> it would be nice if movie makers got important issues right. people believe what they see in movies. they don't think goz zilla was

real -- godzilla was al. >> considering godzilla is based on a true story of the giant lizard attack on tokyo that killed more than 100,000 people in 1954 do you think it is wrong that hollywood glamor rises this for entertainment. >> do you support the bill that would allocate 600 million that would have anti reptile capabilities? >> yes. >> because anything we can do to protect our nation we have to do. >> do you believe they are caused by global warming? >> i do. global warming, pollution. we don't know. there are so many mysteries under the sea. >> we asked christian to give us more examples of popular nonsense in movies. >> disorder, this is a deck.

>> the condition september is an attempt to stop global warming again that has created a new ic. this segues global warming into class warfare. >> you get a two-fer. >> day after tomorrow the same thing. these are not random events. thighs are seen over and over again. we will see how this one plays at the box office but could scare people away. >> our final movie is about a future where machines do greated things like curing cancer. >> i love the fact there's a feature where you can pop out of bed with this machine and get all of the things wrong with you cured. talks about the class warfare between the rich and the poor. you have movies stars like jodie foster and that kind of lecture

might rub people the wrong way. >> it becomes a class warfare movie where the rich get the cancer treatment and the poor suffer. >> you would like to see a disaster movie about obamacare. >> i think elezium print tee much did that well. you have this magical spaceship where the magical bed healed everything and everything is bright and shiny and beautiful. both are run by robots. to me it's a wake-up call. >> i want to ask you about these billboards put up in hollywood which appear to be part of a campaign. billboards from the society of the prevention of celebrity divorce. they say things like when you unconsciously uncouple millions unconsciously uncouple, too. consciously uncouple is a reference to gwyneth paltrow and chris martin?

>> yes. that's pop culture. that term is now part of our conversation. >> it turns out they are a promo for an up coming reality show called marriage boot camp. >> private television most watched couple. >> they will fix their broken relationships the only way they know how. on camera and in the end they have to make the ultimate choice. >> make a decision on whether to stay with this person or move on. >> stacy, that looks stupid and gross to me. but the idea to get couples to talk about their differences that is not popular nonsense. it might be useful. >> i think that's a very good idea. i just don't know that seeing a billboard telling you you should not get divorced would help any. i have been divorced three times and pretty sure the billboard would knotted have stopped my.

>> thank you stacy and kristen. >> we expect it from hollywood but i don't expect it from my daily newspaper. i get it all of the time. the new york times on this particular day when the united states and nigeria announced they agreed to sharon till against when they tried to find the kidnapped school girl. that merited one tiny pir graph at the bottom of page 10. global warming got three hugs scare stories. the big mill accelerates. climate issues move to 4 in california. el nino might shift people's views on global warming. it could bring devastating droughts or heavy rain. it might energize activists or climate change headed to the presidential election. it is like they are cheering on

destruction. these people can't call themselves objective journalists can they? yet they do. look at this naval gazing interview. the sometimes public editor the loudest criticism that we hear it has a literal bias. oo too it is a new york city paper. that is a reasonable criticism i think. >> it is a yes? >> it is a modified yes with a lot of nuance in it. >> there is not much nuance in this thing. look at what the recently fired had in response to that. she won't come on this show but she allowed actress marlo thomas to ask her about conservatives calling the times excessively liberal. >> the news pages are not

ideological: >> they are the columnist at the time. did you open any of their minds? >> i don't think so. >> you had a one-year run. what was your experience that they want to make? they don't overtly try to sell a point of view. they just think everybody ought to think their way because everybody around them does. >> personally i was treated professionally and i e-mailed them my column we fact checked it i got out the next day and that was a perfectly acceptable relationship. they are almost more than biased the house of contemporary american liberalism. they see the issues focus on the issues. global warming as you were saying they rarely sit around

and say let's distort the facts they only see some of the facts. they don't know any one who doesn't agree with them. i honestly think those who work at fox news for example aren't. if you work at fox news you spend a lot of time saying you are not being fair and balanced what about this and what about that? you are sensitive to the encounter. it is a friday country the times are a free entity. they can publish what they want. we shouldn't guive them any credibili credibility as to them being an objective organism. >> now we have all of these other alternatives the number of people reading a story in page 16 are a couple hundred thousand. bill o'reilly is getting with the refeeds up to 5 million. it wasn't matter with the media. >> when i came to washington

there were three networks that evening who show the times led with something that would often be on cbs, nbc that night. it was much much worse 25 or 30 years ago. there was no john stossel on fox and no heck of a lot of other people trying to provide balance. there are articles with the sweekly standard or national review or whatever you are limited to what they choose to give you. >> since you run a political magazine are you do you subscribe? >> you get more articles in a month than they get free. >> i will be stronger and i will keep reading this and yelling give me a break. hash tag to keep this going or use facebook to let people know what you think. coming up, evil video games.

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john: america is debateing the >> america is being debated from the minimum wage. should it it be 15 an hour as seattle decreed? i believe it should be $0 an hour. it should be whatever a, woulder wants to accept. that's illegal in america. that should be illegal. i have hundreds of employees whom i pay $0. they were interns they, woulded for summer in order to earn somethi learn something about ent on to careers at tv stations. joem lean kent her first tv job was working as an intern to me when she worked at a college. why wasn't i arrested why weren't drbs and fox prosecute toeder allowing me and others to abuse interns? because for years government ignored the old rules imposed the department of labor. people understood internships

can be educational. lots of schools had deals with employers where we got to try people out and school got experienced. then came the obama administration. they are illegal only if an employer gets only immediate advantage from the intern. and may be actually impeded. i took advantage of my interns we both benefited. that appears to be over: recently interns sued employers former employers sharyl lee rose not long ago forked over a quarter of a million dollars after an intern sued and said her unpaid internship was unet t -- unethical. unpaid internships are vanishing. >> vogue and int sen that will magazines ended their internship

programs. employers loads and students loads. i would say that's awful. they said it's good. you wrote in the new york times abolish this modern day coal mine. i didn't choose this title. the issue is unpaid internships are anti-american ameridecratic how? >> you look at people whose families are wealthy and can afford to have children and work no money. >> there always can be exceptio exceptions. >> i had interns who worked as a translator. >> it will be harder for that person and one cannot do it. the people on internships who are getting the leg up and a chance to get into the system are the children of the richest. >> if the rich can benefit more it should be outlawed all

together. >> the fact is what americans want. americans have said over and over again. what we want is protection. that's why 75 percent of americans say there should be protection against employment discrimination for sexual orientation and the result is like more people are unemployed. people don't get opportunities. >> three quarters of million americans say -- >> what you were talking about it is democracy. democracy is a system where people vote for what they want. they have certain rights to protect minority groups. >> let's hear what i understand some of the former exploited unpaid interns. she recently got a paying job at fox after working for me for almost nothing. she got a job with neil cavuto.

did i exploit you? >> exploit giving me lots of valuable experience. >> i didn't pay you. >> i didn't get a big check at the end of my internship but i got so much more. what i got was priceless. it got me a job here it launched my career. >> it favors frivolous people you were going to wellesley. you are the privileged. >> what do your parents do? >> my parents are a lawyer and a doctor. i supported myself through my internship. >> you and i are similar. we both went to private colleges came from privileged backgrounds we both worked very hard. most people can't get a fellow ship. most people can't akwoefford to an unpaid internship. we have had all of the advantages in life. >> if i were a company hiring an intern i would be much more

likely to offer that internship to someone who is questionably qualified than someone who came somewhere if i wasn't sure. i would be much more willing to offer them that opportunity to rise up it didn't cost me anything. >> if anything these internships allow mobility and allow people to come up who might not be so qualified or educated to come up to have an opportunity to learn which is why i did with my internship. >> we are in the going to solve this. thank you. coming up, common core. plus popular nonsense from politicians. >> i will keep taxes low. >> we will bring peace and civility to the united states. >> it is time for us to change america. when jake and i first set out on our own,

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experiments so we can see what works better and what's fair. schools can adjust to what they are they are teaching. that's about to change. politicians in 45 states have something called common core same goals for math and english. the same tests. the movement to standardize what is taught. >> like a total speed change consistent strong clear bench marks for english language arts and math. >> sounds like a good thing with one set of national tests we know what all americans kids learn. everyone will be held to equal stand ardz. however lots of people on the left and the right are furious about common core. lindsay berk calls it a power grip. it wasn't imposed the federal government the state agreed to it. >> hard to say when you have $4.35 billion a nontrivial sum offered to the states in the

form of grants if they agreed to adopt standards that were common core and now you have waivers from those held up high. this is incredibly valuable. >> waiver only if you adopt common core. >> there are federal fingerprints all over common core. it would be difficult for any objective observer to say this is totally voluntary and totally state led. >> suggested reading list epa regulations. >> i think there's how to make a brown bag on that as well. healthcare costs in a gal in texas. real exciting material for 9th grade student to be reading. >> education secretary arnie duncan says opposition to common core comes from white suburban moms who all of a sudden their child isn't as brilliant as they thought they were. >> not surprised opposition is coming from moms. they are seeing their children's homework come home this common core line homework common core line tests and quizzes their

children are taking. they have so many questions. indiana has exited common core. basically because two mothers wrote op eds wrote into newspapers and said what we are seeing our kids bring home is total nonsense. >> these are not national standards their state choose to do that. here's an example of one of the few things we know about the national common core math rules. what do you get if you multiply 11 times 23? kids are supposed to use the area. >> i know that 11 is equal to 10 plus 1. first i know that 10 -- >> i think it's clever they use a child's voice in these drawings to try to explain math but come on this is 11 times 23. a 4th grader should be able to solve this in seconds. but the video goes on.

3 is equal to 30. now we have most of our rectangles filled in. and our bottom portion here. everyone has to learn this way? >> times 20 is equal to 20. >> even more students will go to sleep in school. >> we fill in the last area. >> that's a great example of why we are having parents say. i thought it was laughable. it says you used to call your kid's homework word problems now they are math situations. >> the need combran lewis ck tweeted out my children used to love math now it makes them cry. thanks standardized testing and common core. nothing much good has come top down. common core has received support from lots of people i

rerespected. former florida governor jeb bush, michelle of students first, bill gates. his foundation gave 170 million to common core. the u.s. chamber of commerce helped pay for this video. >> as teachers we are on the front line. we support common core. common core is not washington mandate. that mess gets an f for misleading. >> maybe you don't like change. >> i would argue to all of the proponents to the type of uniformity common core or national standards creates assumes there's one best way for children to learn. it assumes we know what that one best way is. the every child is different. every child has unique learning needs. what we are seeing with common core is a standardization of mede i don't knowing teet. >> standardized mediocrity. thank you. best sellinger income equality. why is it so popular? video games that gross even me

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>> you think at a perscertain p you made enough money. >> have you made menough money yet? what is enough. the big issue because income and equality has increased mostly because some rich people got really rich and our president is not happy about that. >> those at the top have never done better. but average wages have barely budged. >> i believe this is the defining challenge of our time. >> defining challenge. is it? libertarians say people are free some will get much richer than others. that is freedom. if markets are free the rich don't get rich at the expense of poor people. often the rich get rich by creating wealth that helped the poor. nevertheless the wealth disparity is big.

>> the top one percent has more wealth than the bottom part combined. he founded wal-mart and none of them were created equal either. they have 146 billion in wealth. it is money that keeps growing. >> capital has been number one on the best seller look for weeks. he suggests a wealth tax plus 80 percent income tax on rich people. i would like to interview him about that except he's a french economist his english isn't so good. let's talk about mike instead. he says the wealth tax is a good start. but libertarian economist says taxing capital is a terrible idea. why? >> capital is the key to economic growth. why would you tax it and tax it either at higher and higher rates? so i think as a walton kid

didn't earn it? >> doesn't matter. the money is being used for investments for expanding different products and so forth. when you destroy that wealth through taxation and where is the money going it is used for boondoggles government wars who knows where that money goes. >> roosevelt institute would have it go to poor people i assume. >> do all kinds of stuff. a richer society. >> if the money would go there that would be great. but it is going to the welfare class. >> it is creating a dependent class that is very destructive. one of the reasons -- >> let's talk about that. >> twhat the government does wih the money we have broad commitments in education, healthcare safe retirement. i assume you are in favor of growth and creative destruction. right now we are in a situation where mos of the growth in our eamon me is captured the one

percent. >> it is not the same people. oprah went from the bottom to the top. >> sure. >> so did sam walton. >> the product takes jobs. what did he create? it is what every one of us have in our pockets. we have a smart phone. wealthy people, poor people everybody has this. this is a great equalizer. capital of the one percent is going into products like this. why would you penalize that? >> i think there are serious problems with this book. one for example he says the rich automatically get richer. that is so much bologna. there are so many examples. he uses the forbes 400 richest list. those people are changing constantly. >> basic compounding interest means if you have a lot of wealth unless you are going to spend a lot of it -- >> why is it a problem? >> part of it is legitimacy of capitalism. if capitalism isn't the generating -- a lot of reasons people like capitalism is

liberty libertarian. it is the best system we have for generating broadly shared prosperity. if that is becoming less true as we go forward as we see much more income into to capital owners managerial class that captures a huge amount of innovation we make in our sows site. >> you are not focusing on the average worker who is having difficulty finding a job and so forth. you have the redistribution teams taking all of the money and giving it to the poor and creating a tee pendant class of 4th generation americans. the lowest income was up 50 percent. >> there is a lot of reasons we

meetiight be worried about it. as they become much more rich politics will dominated the economy. they talk about where people weren't so interested in becoming envat tors. they were much more interested in marrying rich or finding a way to become a rent yar and not the person that starts the next start up that may or may not be rich. the only time inequality and the gap slunk between rich and poor was war between depression. you don't want war or depression why would you want to change the inequality issue? >> on that note none of us want war or depression. >> thank you. next kids spend hours playing violent video games. did you know this turns them into killers? more popular nonsense coming up. up. okay ladies, whenever you're ready.

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watch this. >> call of duty let's kids be soldiers. counselor strikes let's people be terrorists. another let's them break their next. postal let's them kel their enemy. and the best seller grand theft auto invites you to be the bad guy. >> you maniac. >> it creeps me out to see kids playing these games. what effect do they have on the games? whenever there's a mass shooting or violent crime people say violent video games inspire it. jack thompson said that so often that video game lovers made this per parody. >> grand theft auto. >> what are you saying? >> i am saying he is right. >> he graduated vanderbilt top

of his class. >> first lawsuit against eta in 1997. no one would listen. >> we listen to his popular nonsense. and plug his book out of harm's way. one man's relentless crew ausad save your kids from video game madness. you don't have any evidence. you are making this stuff up. it's logical but -- >> we have a ton of evidence. the american psychological association has done at least three studies that talk about the deleterious effects of violent video games on the entire teenaged population. some of which become more aggressive in their speech. some less empathetic. some go over the edge all of the way to violence. >> 200 scholars signed a letter to the psychological association saying relationship between the games and aggression has not been proven. the supreme court call the

research fun persuasive. countries that play the most video games they have less crime. there's less teen violence these days. more video games violence is going down. >> what you assume is static in that situation. what you have in erk ma is decreased team violence across the board but you have more of these mass killings than ever before. >> we are reporting on that. >> sandy took is caused by a violent video game? >> let me tell you what the governor's study of connecticut said. violent games he would play all day and night. >> the report also said his favorite game was dance revolution which he would play 4-10 hours at a time.

>> ted bundy may have liked strawberry ice cream. that is not to say strawberry ice cream had any factor in it at all. >> three different call of duty games. you can impart killing skills to someone who wouldn't other rise have those skills. >> i am sure it would make them better killers. but they don't go kill. >> age 13 i represented the 6 parents of the three girls shot and killed there. >> there are fox commentators who belief what you say at ralph nader said video game makers are electronic child molesters. >> the video game industry makes grand theft auto mentally molest minors for money. i will drop my criticism of you all if you stagree to stop marketing and selling your games

to under aged kids. he said no we will destroy you rather than do that. >> he said they will destroy you? had>> he did vocationally. i am no longer a lawyer. >> you are no longer a lawyer because the supreme court said you abused the pros can hes with the court with constant violence. oo i wasn't disbarred for that but i was disbarred for appearing on 60 minutes at the request of ed bradley to warn the american people that something like sandy hook was coming. >> you sued anybody. >> you siue any of the people responsible for the links in a causation chain. >> lamar alexander agrees with you. >> video games are employer violent than guns.

>> tv host he had schultz said this about grand theft auto. >> if you are a parent and you let your son or daughter watch this even if they are beyond 18 years old you are a lousy parent. >> 18-year-olds who can go to war shouldn't be allowed to play them. >> if you acted out grand theft auto in afghanistan you would be court-martialed and jailed. the bad guys kill the good fwies they run over people with their cars they have sex with prostitutes john. >> it is amazing. >> we have teens filling their hearts up and their souls which they do the violence. it makes member more likely some of them to act it out. >> thank you, jack. i want to remind you violence, teen violence is down. he says it's for other reasons. next more very popular nonsense.

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is the belief when there is a problem government is the solution. gasoline shortage largely created government price control. >> bring us closer to energy in our country. >> by 1980. >> by 1985. >> by the year 2025. >> give me a break. there is no shortage of energy because they have new supplies of oil and gas. government central planners failed almost every where in the soviet union in cuba and post office and on the obamacare web site. yet despite all of this failure when another crisis hit the instinct is to say government has to do something. >> i will keep taxes low. >> this is the moment when the rise of the ocean began to flow

and our planets began to heal. >> when obama supporters shouted yes we can they spoke as individuals working toward common goal. fire george bush, help the poor and individuals do those things. but government can. most people today at least come to understand this president can't fix everything. the truth is know politician can. nobel prize winner frederick hayek wrote the task of economics is to demonstrate the men how little they know about what they image they can design. >> they cannot design a better world and fail when they try. individuals can and they do. the governments fail but individuals succeed. this is a a counter intuitive

idea. most of us struggle with our loown lives. we are grateful to politicians who often take charge. they are so interested in our welfare some went to harvard they are very smart. logical to believe they should plan our economy. people believe them when they say yes, we can. this belief is popular nonsense. government creates new problems without solving another one. to say no we can't does not mean individuals can't. individuals had to learn what's nonsense and what's not. many of the services are completely free. all are better than what governments offered. all are better because entrepreneur ship from individuals brought us more

choices. we would have more effect if government would get out of our way. >> that's tonight's show. see you next week. of the weekend. see you back here next week. tonight on huckabee. five taliban bad guys free to go in the swap for sergeant bowe bergdahl. will the president release the prisoners of gitmo. >> senator lindsay graham on why that move could lead to impeachment. >> and dropping everything to find bergdahl. the major said the five released 7g their partners and their peers in this community. >> why a high school