>> this is outnumbered and we are glad you're here. today's hashtag one lucky guy, brian is here and he is outnumbered. good to see you. >> i just found out how lucky i was a short time ago. i feel lucky. >> i know. we had some flight problems and then you flew in. >> i'm privileged to be here. i can't believe how busy of a weekend it was. >> heather, first time to be here. >> sandra taking days off so i'm

very happy to be here. bright and early in the morning as well as brian. we've been here awhile but this is great. i'm looking forward to it. >> this is a big news day. let's get to it. new fallout over the taliban prisoner swap that freed an american soldier. bowe bergdahl's parents were allowed to take part in secure, secret video conferences with top u.s. officials. perhaps as many as 20 times per your. and as we're learning, that would have been unprecedented access. weesh -- we're getting reports of bergdahl's treatment of the captors and he's refusing to talk with his parents. all of this as the white house appears to be in damage control. secretary of state john kerry says any idea that the prisoner exchange for bergdahl puts american lives at risk in his words is baloney. >> i don't think anybody should doubt the capacity of the united states of america to protect americans.

nobody. no one should doubt the capacity of america to protect americans and the president has always said he will do whatever is necessary in order to protect the united states of america. >> but top democrats like dianne feinstein remain uneasy about the release of what they're calling the taliban five. >> i heard john kerry this morning say don't worry about them. it's hard to be comfortable when you really haven't been briefed on the intricacies of carrying out this agreement. >> that sounds like a registered complaint. heather, i want to go to you first on this about this information we're learning. you've been looking at some material that that family got to see >> that really concerned me, especially after we know that there were comments from the father himself. he tweeted out his support for al qaeda and the taliban and i have this article that was put in the washington times and it quoted a former government

official involved in american hostage situations and said that he had never heard, ever, of a family given such access and he questioned whether the sensitive material and the information could have been conveyed, you know, to the bergdahl family or should have been. >> so what you're saying is were there any secrets that were given away? >> exactly. especially when we know what the father was saying outside of these meetings. >> and one thing we've been doing on "outnumbered" and other news cast is we can't confirm the tweets. >> one of the arguments they made for why they didn't go to congress is because they were so afraid this information could potentially get out. they didn't go to congress because they were worried the information could get out but they could let the parents in on this top secret information on these video conference calls. that argument doesn't hold anymore. >> it looks like his parents were briefed at a greater detail than congress was.

when you have senator feinstein not even tip toeing the idea that the white house didn't inform them as much, we heard the word misled. not only when this first came out did she say they completely broke the law in totality when it came to not giving congress the 30-day notice but now we're a week out from when the swap took place and the announcement in the rose garden took place and she's on a sunday show saying, i still have no information. it's not like they did it, went to her and said here are the details of what went ong. we're sorry we didn't come to you first, and now we're hearing reports the family was getting more details than senator dianne feinstein. >> she's on the intel committee. it wouldn't matter how much they were friends or not, she's supposed to be trusted with this kind of material because she's on the intelligence committee. something else that dianne feinstein has said is that this was talked about, this type of swap and we know this, too, from hillary clinton, was talked about as much as two years ago.

and her feelings were then that there were some pretty strong voices inside congress against this swap. was this sort of a political thing that the president would have gone around congress? >> i think so. i think he probably realized he's going to get pushback if he does this. why don't we tell him and say it was an urgent matter. really? turns out physically it was an urgent matter and there's no sense also that his life would have been taken anymore in may or june than last may or the june prior. you're always in danger with al qaeda. i think one of the biggest things i took from the sunday shows is the senator dianne feinstein has not been really in. >> do you think something happened and we don't know about it? >> she came out yesterday and said i still can't answer questions. i still don't understand. i watched secretary of state kerry this morning. all the white house had to do was reign her in and say, listen. sorry about that.

let me get you up to date. now tell the nation that you're on board with this and they haven't taken the time to do it. >> tonight talk about political toxicity with you and how the white house is in trouble with messaging right now. >> it's a huge problem. every time they open their mouth, it's a bigger problem. for kerry to say it's now baloney that wee leasing the detainees -- >> interesting choice of words. >> is he prepared to stand by that statement so if something does happen to u.s. troops and they can trace it back to the release of the five days, is the administration prepared to stand by the statement? >> do we care at all what happens after we leave? no one is bringing up after we leave. if we want the taliban to take control of the country and the president says i took the vow to get you out of here, we're on the right track. if it matters that the guy who was working with massoud, that

is western educated, if we want him to have a chance, we will not leave that country in control with the taliban right here and the guys we helped prop up right here. >> i think that's a much bigger issue. the question you asked of the white house mrit i cannizing aspects, the obama white house is always accusing republicans of being political when it comes to a scandal that breaks. in this case they can't because dianne feinstein is calling out obama administration officials by name. and when it comes to the messaging on this, where is president obama when he's collaborating with secretary of state john kerry? president obama last week said, quote, is there a possibility of some of these guys released coming back in and attacking us and having problems with our troops? absolutely, he said. and yet you have senator kerry saying it's baloney to think that and then further, you had

one of the guys who was released go immediately as he landed state publicly, i'm going to get become to afghanistan and i'm going to attack americans and i not just about u.s. troops in afghanistan. it's about americans here at home. let's not forget, these guys were actually involved and really good friends with all of the people who planned 9/11. >> it's not the first time that mixed messages have come from the white house so that's not entirely unexpected. but what you're getting to, the next thing that will happen here is that this puts our troops and americans at greater risk because the taliban and other terrorist organizations, they see what america is willing to do. >> you know the other thing that incentivizes them and we've heard mike rogers from michigan talking about it and john mccain talk about, too, is the fact that you have five guys who survived gtmo and you want to talk about a recruiting tool.

they could go on a speaking tour at this point and recruit members. >> they will. >> they're going to know our ways, our practices, the way we're intimidated, the way it started and the way america has broken down and they're allowed to read newspapers and keep up to date and keep correspondence. this is the way america did it. this is how the will got broken when fr when i got captured and look where 2014 is dramatically different. >> we don't know, what about what bergdahl may have shared with the taliban while he was held captive as well? >> we don't know that. i know the integration process that he's in, that's what they call it where he's now at that hospital in germany. we'll probably reveal some of that. you know, there's something else, too, and i mentioned rogers and mccain and the threat of that was that we have reconstituted the taliban government. we've put them with everybody else that we'll do bargaining

with. >> also these are issues that the whole country is united behind. the reason this is a problem for the obama administration much like the v.a. situation is because this isn't an issue where they can say republicans are talking about this. this is all republican. this is republicans. this is democrats. this is independents, people u sighted saying this was a bad decision and you guys underestimated our ability to do this research and our ability to know exactly what you're doing and ask tough questions. that's where the messaging isn't working. the taliban is empowered. there are five guys, the five guys that were put on the list and said this is what we want the obama team handed the five guys over and had nothing. they are empowered right now. >> was it worth it? "time" magazine has bowe bergdahl on the cover with that one ge. what's going to be interesting is whether bergdahl gives our intelligence agents any information about the taliban and how cooperative he is when it comes to giving them the

things they're wondering about during his five years of captivity. >> what's next in this is on wednesday, the scheduled hearing in the house with defense secretary chuck hagel and what he may say he knows at this point. in the beginning when he was asked about this, he didn't know anything about the desertion claims against bowe bergdahl. >> how could that be? >> why should people care? >> why should people care? all i can tell you in 2001, think about yourselves the taliban were approached and told if you give over al qaeda, top adherence to that terrorist organization, you will not be invaded. they said, tough. we're sticking with you. these guys made it possible to make their relationship work. al qaeda would not be there if the taliban sdoent exist. now they're on the doorstep of taking back the country and guess who is putting roots in afghanistan right now even though we're leaving? al qaeda. >> let's move o. former

secretary of state hillary clinton with new remarks on the terror attack against our consulate in benghazi. we lost four americans that night. her answer to the key question, will she testify about it? >> and catholic school parents are so outraged by a decision by the archdiocese. some of them are turning to home schooling instead. they're fired up and stand by and stay with you. we're glad you're here. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition inharge™. [ bottle ] ensure®. a yummy reward is important so i give butch delicious milo's kitchen chicken grillers recipe dog treats. that's called inward facing dog. he could do it all day. milo's kitchen. made in the usa with chicken or beef as the number one ingredient. the best treats come from the kitchen. ugh. heartburn.

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>> welcome back to "outnumbered." former secretary of state hill ry clinton sitting down for an interview but not saying whether she'll testify about the consulate in benghazi. >> i'm not going to say one way or the other. we'll see what they decide to do, how they conduct themselves, whether or not this is, you know, one more travesty about the loss of four americans or whether this is best tradition of the congress. >> and in the meantime, a poll finds 50% of americans disapprove how clinton handled the benghazi attack. only 37% approve. you heard her interview there.

she immediately goes to the political side, right? she says, well, depends on how they conduct themselves. i have no doubt that they're going to issue her a subpoena. we have the new benghazi select company. i don't think that we can get to the bottom unless they have hillary clinton testify. you see there she went political right away. >> if she's running, she's better testify because immediately, republicans will have the talking point of where is the transparency? what are you hiding? if you have nothing to hide, why aren't you going to testify? with that being said, i would warn people when you look at the polling, hillary clinton very popular. 67%. 60% say she's honest and trustworthy so could this change everything if there's a hearing and things come out? and all of a sudden there's a lot of accountability she has to take? absolutely. that's what she's worried about. she can't just hide in the background if she's running for office. she has to be the woman who goes out there and tells the truth.

>> do you know you what just listed? hard choices. isn't that the name of the book tomorrow? >> exactly. she has said, and it was a quote, ifrps -- i was the one ultimately responsible for the safety. if she considers herself the one ultimately responsible, it should be a no brainer that she would testify. >> but we see her new book coming out now and mike allen called it a snooze fest essentially. don't you think they're trying to protect her from testifying? they don't want another what difference does it make? >> she cannot do it now. if she wasn't running, she could not not do it but she's clearing running. i was one of those people who thought she's probably not going to run. just as serious as karl rove said, with -- >> well, her husband discussed them. >> no doubt about it. but katie, i believe that she's going to have to testify but

what she has already given an indication of how she'll do it, i can't tell you the thickness of blasting walls. i can't tell you how many guards i need here. i'm more interested what happened that night and what happened after. so she didn't have the right security there. the department was too thick for decisions like that to get to her to protect her friend but i want to know, were people covering your butt that night and were you not doing everything you can to get the truth out? >> she has a lot on the line here. running against president obama, she did 3:00 a.m. phone calls and i think people will use that against her. >> this was the equivalent. i think it happened around 9:00 p.m. but it was equivalent to the 3:00 a.m. phone call. how did she handle it? did she answer the phone call? let it ring, ring over to voicemail? will the book be enough to wipe that away? if you don't testify, then you have to go on the written word of "hard choices." i don't know if there's enough

in that book that qualifies for congressional hearing testimony. >> she doesn't want to undergo that. her whole legacy at the state department is there as well. >> if it's not already. >> another portion of the book she doesn't think we'll ever be close to knowing exactly what happened. >> how does she know that? >> but how is that accessible? it's an easy answer for her to say. it gets her out of the way. >> all right. i have to shift this over to something in education which has me heated. parents at a milwaukee catholic school after the city's archdiocese announces it would use the washington backed common core standards at its 110 proem yal schools. some are turning to home schooling. more than 1,000 parents have launched a campaign to stop the move saying if they wanted their kids to have a public school curriculum, they would have sent them to public school. the archbishop says they're using the standards as a

reference along with catholic school standards. oh, man. all right. brian, this is a great point by parents, i think. they're saying, look. we sent our kids to private school to avoid this kind of government mandated curriculum and now we're subject to the same kind of thing. do the parents have a choice here? do you think their voices will be heard? >> they have over 1,000 signatures. people are rally around it. i sent my son to a catholic school. new york has a standard which you have to take a test, no matter what school you're into. if you don't like it, don't sign up. i think a lot of people will make that choice. this is just that one ar archdiocese in the state of wisconsin. i think it will force parents to say, do i need to write that $5,000 to $7,000 check in order to do something that i can get everywhere else? that will force the archdiocese because money does matter even when it comes to catholic schools. that will force them to say,

okay. we'll get off that standard. i understand why you're here. >> what do you think this will do to home schooling? there's a lot of uproar about common core, some problems. i watched a video the other day where it was like a weird diagram that she was doing on the black board s. this really going to boost home schooling across the country? >> i think that might end up being the only option for parents and i was reading where some parents were talking about the difficulties that they have in helping their children with homework and talking about fuzzy language, specifically math. unfamiliar terms like rectangular array and arium model. >> i'll explain that to you afterwards. >> they're discussing math. i think that home schooling will definitely be perhaps an option that parents are left to consider. >> i think brian hit the nail on the head. parents aren't going to write

that extensive tuition check to have the same thing that you can get at a public school. they're really -- in a time when parents are struggling to get by and scraping every dollar not only to save for college but get by, they'll have to rethink whether they'll pay for the tuition that they can get at a public school z. if you were in this situation and put your child in a private school and now this was happening, what would your reaction be? how do you think it's the best approach for parents to respond to this who are really unhappy with all of a sudden this government imposed curriculum invading their schools? >> as a parent, and i agree because your taxes are paying for something public, i would keep the $5,000, $7,000 in my pocket. i would also use the google machine and look to see what my other options were. if they could make a god reason for this, right, there wouldn't be parents literally protesting in school districts across the country pushing against core curriculum. but i haven't seen the compelling argument for it. what i have seen is teachers

with chalk boards working out three plus seven which by the way becomes this. then this. and the area is really a square and -- >> it's really 10, right? >> the last time i checked but it would be a derivative of some hair product from what i've seen. they can convince me there's a reason for it, fine. but i haven't teen it yet. >> keep your eye on this as we approach 2017. some have endorsed common core. that might be an issue for them. >> a presidential pop layerity free fall. and why history may not be on president obama's side when it comes to reversing the downward spiral. from being america's feel good story to becoming perhaps one of the biggest sore losers ever, what the colorful owner of california chrome is saying after a post race rant for the ages. good job!

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>> welcome back to "outnumbered." looks like the president may be losing one of the most liberal states in america. mr. obama's popularity hitting new lows. 45% in very blue massachusetts. the blame being put on obamacare's rocky rollout.

the lows mirroring what's happening nationally. the president at 43% but if anyone in the white house thinks the president can bounce back in the polls, politico going all the way back to the truman days says don't bet on it. we've seen the administration try to throw things out there to try to get the approval back to student loan issues and that's something they're trying to get out there to get a good, positive note on the administration side. >> minnesoimum wage. >> i think you're right. if anything was out there to do the popular movement to get his popularity up, his reflects on congress is midterm elections. if you think his popularity is huring now, pick your word, controversy is the mild one. then you just wait until it happens after the midterms. then all bets are off.

it's my agenda, build my library which doesn't usually up your ratings. >> they can't just blame republicans for this. this is massachusetts. this is one of the most liberal states in the country. they've always been on team obama. one of my other questions is are they not happy with him because he hasn't been far left enough? senator warren from massachusetts could be part of the problem. >> i caution away from massachusetts. a lot of liberal friends have said he's not liberal enough. absolutely. i think with obama, the big problem for him is obamacare and he can't get away from it because it's getting worse and worse for people. their premiums are going up, you can't go to the doctor that you've had for years. your options are limited so it doesn't -- his poll numbers aren't lifting because of the implication of this policy, people are living with this every day. if that didn't exist, maybe his personal likability would have other issues. but these are always number one. >> don't you think that a lot of problem with president obama's

approval, for a long time everybody liked him personally. >> i think they still do. >> i don't know, though. >> and he his wife are popular. >> the american people know and have said in polling they think he lied to them about health care and about keeping their plans. that's when his approval on everything has kind of gone to the tank. >> i think it has more to do with jobs. they can like him as much as they want but some issues you're mentioning might play a role. the biggest issue for this president has been just the fact until last week, they were still not generating enough jobs to get us back to 2007, 2008 level. that's a huge problem. we find negative growth in a quarter for this country f. that happens again, the white house might look at other factors but most economists a grgreagree, y two quarters of that and then we're back in recession. if the president can come out with any kind of a jobs plan that didn't involve part time

jobs and temporary jobs which we've seen so many of as we try to build back -- >> a recession that allegedly had ended but as we all know, has not really ended at all and quite frankly, i don't think president obama cares. i really don't think he cares. >> i would agree. >> about his popularity ratings right now. >> why not? >> he's already out of office, thinking ahead to, you know, how he'll go down in history and i don't think that he believes that the popularity numbers or percentages is what will make a difference. i think that he's like teflon. i think that he believes nothing will stick to him. he truly believes that. i think the democratic party cares about the numbers. >> they're still running. >> they don't want to go down in history. >> he's counting on his charm. >> once he leaves office, he'll do all of these great media interviews and his charm will rise to the top. i'm not saying no. but that's what he's counting on. >> does that mean that things don't get done? >> yep.

i think we're in for a couple of long years here. >> an apology from the owner of california chrome. steve coburn was hoping his race horse would take the triple crown at belmont stakes. california chrome finished in tie for fourth place. coming in behind a fresh legged winner who hadn't run either of the first two races that make up the triple crown and prompting this reaction from the coowner coburn. >> these are the horses, they always set them out. they set them out and try to upset the apple cart. it's not fair to these horses that have been in the game since day one. i look at it this way. if you can't make enough points to get in the kentucky derby, you can't run in the other two races. it's all or nothing. this is not fair to these horses that have been running their guts out for these people and for the people that believe in them or -- this is a coward's way out.

>> bam. mike. but wait. do you know what? you'd better say you're sorry. >> i need to apologize to the winners. they run a beautiful race. their horse run the race. they deserve that. i did not mean to take anything away from them. so i want to apologize to everybody associated with the horse, his trainer. i sincerely apologize. >> mr. coburn, you might to want apologize. we give this apology -- >> you know, i feel a little bad for him because i think he reacted. i think he was very bitter about it. he took it very personally and he just had that initial reaction where he was angry and then i think he went home and realized, do you know what? i really sound like a sore loser. >> or checked his voicemail. >> made it hard for the winners to enjoy the moment. but with that, i agree it wasn't

terribly convincing, the tone. >> so if we want to put the blame on the media defense, which a lot of people like to say, you stuck a guy in the mike's face, let's consider this. that was saturday. this was sunday. he then said that running a rested horse against been in the first two legs of the triple crown is like running or playing a 6' 2" basketball player against a kid in a wheelchair. wow. >> i know the rangers were complaining about interference on the ice in the third period against the kings. a lot of people complaining about lebron james, no air conditioning. that doesn't seem right. but here's the thing. as a sideline reporter, put a mike in someone's face. if you want richard sherman to calm down, don't go after him on the field. if you want the owner to be cerebral and reflective, don't go up to him after a race and don't get mad at him for being honest as the guy who puts a microphone or a woman that puts the microphone. don't you want those answers

rather than we want to get them next time? i hope i can find another horse that can run just as fast. >> do you think too much is being made out of the fact he said what he said? >> i think the way in which it was delivered was not the best way but i think that if you take a listen as to exactly what he was saying and you can speak to this more. i think it makes sense. you have the winner totalistic. the colt earned no derby points prior to this and didn't make his stakes debut until a week after the kentucky derby. he makes good points with what he's saying. it was just his method of delivery that needs work. >> he knows i have lost my mortgage money on the ponies before. but i will say this. i did find out in the 1970's and 1980's when a firm won in 1978, they said the same thing was happening then. secretary of the firm, this happened in the past, no one complained. more just ran one of the three

big races than even now. so this guy doesn't have a leg to stand on but it brought more interest to the sport which is desperate for more information. >> by the way, california chrome was hurt during the race and yend that the next time the horse may race is at the breeders cup which is not until late october. we may see the horse before then. >> it had a chance in the final stretch to win. >> listen to you. >> that's all you want. he had a chance of a win. he did not have it. >> i a pole goiz. i'm sorry. >> nothing wrong with a go ahod sore loser. >> brian is still talking. president obama is using xeks executive action again and it's going to happen later today to help college students, the white house said. what he'll be signing to reduce the student loan debt. who need math or science? middle schoolers getting lessons in love. really? wait until you hear what they've been asked to do. teachers are asking them how far

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>> parents are fuming at a lesson taught at a san diego school. they asked girls to declare how far they would go sexually by standing under signs. smiled at, hugged, kissed and then there were the ones that said above the waist, below the waist and all the way. officials at the school, they're defending what they're calling a dating lesson. so what sort of lesson is this? >> it's humiliating. the kids who hold up hugs, then they have to deal with peer pressure. kids are going to make fun of

them. you didn't go far enough. i would say you had mentioned to me about waivers, about potentially these parents signing waivers. parents, read what schools send home. they can't go beyond that. read them. >> brian? >> i'm stunned this happened. i can't wait to see the back story that led up to this. is this -- were they frustrated the kids weren't being candid enough or something? they'll get them in front of the class? i don't see any good coming out of this except for a dialogue about what could be lying in their wake in ninth, 10th, 11th and 12th. >> i would say it borders under pedophilia to stand under the sign and be humiliated in front of their class rates. to have adults standing there under all that pressure, who was there in the room with the kids? that's disgusting. >> 18 years old is the age of consent where you can legally have sex. these are 14-year-olds and 15-year-olds so in one is

bringing that up. >> this leave mez with more questions than answers. you know, on the couch today, we actually have somebody from academic life. i'm going to yield my time to you because i'm curious to know how you would deal with this going forward as a former administrator. you would have to deal with these angry parents. >> this class would not be going on like this. there should not be an adult in the room while this is happening. i think parents should immediately -- i don't know what was in the forum. i don't know what parents signed away. i don't know how specific they were but i would bet my money it didn't say the kids would be holding up signs and hugh mul yated in front of a classroom. if you sign something, that didn't happen, you make sure that adult in the room was held accountable. that person should lose their job and make sure that never happens again. as parents of enormous voice, you can affectuate huge change when you complain about things. >> still to come, severe storms moving across the country

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>> more "outnumbered" in a moment. first jon scott with what's coming up on "happening now." >> horrible attack. a man and woman shotting about revolution shot and killed two policemen at a pizza joint and then killed another man outside of a wal-mart and then themselves. we'll have an update. plus huge storms moving across the center of the nation right now. what appeared to be several

tornados touching down in colorado yesterday. one of the twisters hitting near a junior golf tournament. janice dean will join us. taliban terrorists attacked karachi's international airport last night. at least 28 people are dead, including the assailants. more on that "happening now." >> see you in nine minutes. thank you. >> thanks, harris. >> good to see you two interacting like that. now it's time to move ahead. now it's my turn with this story. most stay at home dads are not there by choice. i was stunned to see this poll. it's brand new. it's finding out only 21% of at-home dads say their main reason to stay home is to take care of their family. 35% say they're home because of health issues. 23% says they just cannot find a job. harris, due find that hard to believe? i was stunned by this. >> i'm not surprised there's that percentage who can't find a job. have you seen the economics on the situation? i understand that. >> but if the woman is working and the man isn't -- >> but if you have one parent

and you're used to having two working, then what are you going to do? your income is cut in half potentially. if she's blessed enough to have a job, she goes to work and he stays home. i get the math there. >> more women have been able to recover in terms of getting the jobs back than men. but i think in general, men like to be out doing things and working in traditional sense, not working in the home. so i think that's probably more of the reason. >> believe it or not, i think the number of stay at home dads has actually dropped from 2.2 million in 2010 to two million now. the stay at home dads i know, like it. it's fun. you can get just like voted in and, say, watch television. you have to keep it going. >> it's a job in and of itself. that's why i just have so much admiration for people who have a regular job, you know, 9:00 to 5:00 and then they go home and then they have a whole other job dealing with their kids and

their family. so it makes sense that one of the parents in this case they're talking about dads, stay home. otherwise, they're spending money on child care. they are down to just one income to begin wiyou don't have it, y don't have it. >> i know one stay at home dad. the kids love him. he's married to a very high powered female c.e.o. and he loves it. and i'm a fum supporter of this. as viewers know, i'm recruiting a house husband. >> we see this the upside of a stay at home dad. my husband has an office in the house. they are available. >> do you mean available to run errands? >> i'm going to leave it there. >> whatever we may mean. >> whatever me may need. >> it takes a smart guy and i think michael keaton blazed the trail for this. >> that was an actor. >> brian, what about you? would you be a stay at home dad?

>> if you lost your job, would you stay home? >> i did if it was the most productive thing in my family. >> not that i know anything. >> i love being with the kids. i'm totally intrigued by it. i think it's harder going to work in 99% of the time because it really is. you get no thanks but if i don't wrap up now, nobody is going to talk to me. then a total code of silence in the break. she didn't make the final cut in the miss u.s.a. pageant but we'll tell you why miss indiana became a favorite of our viewers when she walked out in this bikini. >> because she looks like a real girl. >> right. >> not like she's starving. >> i think she looks great. >> she's probably friendly. she's not so hungry. >> we can't do this topic. fibe. they're delicious, and an excellent source of fiber fibe. to help support regularity. wife: mmmm husband: these are good! marge: the tasty side of fiber. from phillips. iwas thathe biggest vit gave me...ar... confidence to buy my very first car...

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miss nevada was crowned miss usa last night but one woman won over the vowers. miss indiana praised for a curvy bikini body. thank you for looking like an average woman. and another a contestant that doesn't look like a bag of bones. men on twitter said all of the girls were beautiful and women were analyzing this and that it? >> it seems outstanding to me. and i would not called her out normal. and i thought i was going to see a woman wrestling a bore bottle.

and would that get normal. >> they are all gorgeous and beautiful. and i am happy that miss nevada won. she was helping women to defend themselves against violent assaults. the difference is settled for women and all of them are absolutely stunning and gorgeous. >> the winner had a black belt. >> and it is more about fitness than the shape and at least what it should be. and we are all different. some are skinny and some are heavier. and that is the reality. heads tend to turn when a thinner person walks in the rom. french fries and ketchup. the opposite happens sometimes

and all of the people hate on the skinny woman. >> yes, i want them to be friendly when they get hungry. >> when it comes to women we can't make it happy. >> we'll see you back here tomorrow. happening now starts right now. >> and we shout out on three developing stories, we are waiting to the details of two cold- blooded murders of two police officers in las vegas in what is called a murder susight pact. and a armed ark assault in the airport. and the message from the terrorist to the united states. the presidentousing the power of the pen to help with college deaths. it will help ease the crushing financial burden for america's young people? >> an