take a look around you. you already are. all i know they didn't wait a nan owe second when it counted to save your ass. make a difference now. hello, everyone. i'm dana perino, along with andrea tantaros, eric bolling, juan williams, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." well, it's a moment we've all been waiting for. will she or won't she run for president again? today is the official release of her new book, "hard choices." is she dropping any clues though as to whether or not she's made a decision? >> the reason i called the book "hard choices" is that's what any president faces. >> one thing she did drop was a surprising comment about her and

president clinton's finances. >> we came out of the white house dead broke and in debt. we struggled to piece to go the resources for mortgages for houses, for chelsea's education. it was not easy. >> after an immediate backlash and ridicule for that comment, she tried to smooth it out this morning. >> for me it was a real that we faced when he got out of the white house, we had to keep working really hard. as i recall we were something like $12 million in debt and that was something we really had to work hard and i was in the senate and could not do anything to help us meet those obligations. we also have gone through some of the same challenges as many people have. >> greg, i'm sure -- are you relating to this empathy. >> she speaks my language. she says exactly what i'm

thinking. will she or she won't? who cares? it's not like sam and diane in cheers. it's hard to be president, you make these hard choices. as if we weren't aware of this, we always thought being president was a cake walk. i don't want to walk on an airplane and have the pilot saying flying a plane is hard, getting that thing up in the sky, i don't know how i do it. seriously. she's going to be the leader of the free world. . >> let me ask you, andrea, given -- this is the big day for the rollout. i don't think that she anticipated the ferocious response to her saying that they were dead broke, and so probably not the book rollout she anticipated for today at least. >> because it's ridiculous and most people know it.

i think it also shows how completely out of touch she is. i don't think anyone thought that the clintons at any point in the last decade have been flat broke. in fact, the daily news when she was senator, her hometown paper, just a couple months out of office, they called them famously wealthy, when they claimed to be flat broke, she took a vacation in the dominican republic. her husband was $800,000 a year to rent his harlem office space to consider themselves to be flat broke and this is a problem with hillary clinton. when she does interviews, and i do think she is campaigning right now. they have never stopped campaigning, she's not a good candidate. she's not a good campaigner, when she started to open up, this is when gaffes are made and she starts to reveal who she really is and just out of touch

the clintons are, especially her. i think bill would not say anything like this. >> if you were a financial adviser to the clintons, if they are coming out of the white house, yes, they definitely had debt, but you would have advise the them you are going to be fine given the potential to make it all up, before you even leave the white house with an $8 million book deal. >> she charges $200,000 a peach -- peach speech. >> it's estimated that bill has put together $100 million since he left. i'm a little concerned. she originally said when we left the white house we were dead broke. she didn't accumulate that $11 million debt until she ran for president in 2008. am i right? isn't that when she had that $11 million debt? >> it's a different bucket of debt. the original debt was from the legal problems. >> white water and all that. okay. fine. if that's the case, then, okay, so you aren in debt but she has

to know, two terms, eight years in office, there's a huge bucket of gold waiting for you to be thrown in your lap. this is a less feel sorry for me we're dead broke and more about let's change the discussion, let's talk about anything about benghazi right now because benghazi isn't working for me, so let's talk about, you know, my money problems. >> i do think it's interesting, juan, it seems that maybe they hadn't prepped her or she hadn't thawing this was a question she was going to get. maybe she had a different answer. maybe they thought to their answers, it sounded okay and when it was said outloud it wasn't something they didn't anticipate. you covered bill clinton as president and one of things as a politician, he's always known as somebody who could feel your pain, he was empathic: it's not necessarily a skill that you

learn. do you think that hillary clinton maybe doesn't have that empathic gene. >> she doesn't feel the room the way bill does. she walks -- he walks in the studio, that's bill. there's no question bill could get the plane up. >> he could feel your pain. >> the thing about hillary, she didn't anticipate this. >> i'm just curious as to why they seemed to fumble. >> you are right when you say you don't think they anticipated the question. benghazi is still out there, right, don't forget that she's supposed to be brain damaged. don't forget that. don't forget that she controlled vanity fair when the lewinsky story came out. i'm not sure it rebound to her

benefit, which make her more as the victim, which she loves to be. >> i think they are going to sell a lot of books. the reviews are not very good. >> the reviews are the fact it's empty and it's feels as spontaneous as the continental drift. they made this book into a movie, it would be a three-hour test pattern, but i think juan is correct. you have to be very careful because, you know, if you keep going after and after and after her, it will make her look sympathetic. to eric's point, it is true. the mistake of them talking about them being broke that everybody knows that becoming president, it's the power ball jackpot for the power hungry. it is better than winning the lottery. think about when president obama leaves, he's going to get a half a million when he belches. he will be the first president billionaire. >> if clinton doesn't beat him

to it. >> they are going to put $2 billion in campaign together. >> you know what, he's going to be a world wide sensation. >> the amazon reviews, when i checked, two out of five stars. it's trash. save your money. disappointing. campaign propaganda and the point i like the best, this should be called a work of fiction. >> you know why? because it assumes that we're stoop. it assumes that we don't know what she's trying to do. the book doesn't know what it's supposed to be. most people put out a book and they are pretty -- i don't want to say open with what they are trying to do but everyone knows that the clintons are constantly calculating every single move, whether it's selling books or running for the next office. she's not really being authentic, i think in the interviews. the reason i think we need to call her on this comment about the rich, imagine if the republicans have said it and

george bush made a comment about the super market scanner that derailed his campaign. every time hillary clinton tries, she failed. i don't know what she was trying to do when staying home and baking cookies, when she offends mom, military, whatever analogy, when bill used to jog, remember, he used to go out for runs, he has this natural authenticity that people love and she doesn't have it and she's trying to, but it's just not there and so she offends, again, people who are actually struggling. >> i think that the book is all about making her more human and approachable and kind of bringing her down to size. that's why it's not about the policy stuff, and the failure of the book in terms of the reviews, which i must say come from democrats and republicans, that it's not an exciting book,

is that she comes across as someone as saying i'm a human being, i'm in here i got really tired and there were times i felt terrible and there are times when i had to go see barack obama about this charge that my campaign was racist and they asked me to say something nasty about sarah palin and i refused. there's a human side she's trying to get out there. people don't feel like they know her, like they can be her friend. >> i disagree, i think people were reminded last night that they know her very well and that they are reminded oh, this is why in 2008 the democrats chose obama over hillary clinton, because the vim and vigor, the excitement, the new -- she's trying to do too many things in this book, in my opinion. there's -- this was the my state department world book, and then there's the book that people write when they are going to run

for president. so there's the audacity of hope or a charge to keep. scott walker wrote a book, paul ryan. they are books that are forward-looking and one of complaints we're looking to see if she's going to run. there's nothing there. they let the expectation to be there that it was. >> it's always about character in these presidential books. here's my character, and the big difference with the republicans, you say it's a double standard is guess what, the republicans are always seen as running up a pluto krat like romney. >> you are going to have someone with massive wealth like the clintons and you don't hear the press covering it the way that they did when it's a republican, even if it made it on his own

not being an career politician. >> the republicans represent the rich. >> that's because the media builds that narrative. >> there's more money coming from the democrats for the campaigns. you have to remember this elect is historic. she could be america's first robot president. >> what do you mean by that? >> because what you just said from the book, it is so -- it's so sterile and it's so cold and the one thing that really bug me is how she -- how she criticized the bush doctrine in the book, while adopting almost every part of his foreign policy. i mean, they didn't get rid of drones. they just treated it like a new form of outreach. they still kept gitmo open. everything that worked under bush they kept. it's okay to use the bush doctrine unless bush is doing it. >> then you have to say you are different. >> exactly. does that make sense? >> i followed. >> slowly. >> hey.

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>> welcome, there are other parts of hillary clinton's new book that have been making headlines. one involves former vi vice-presidential candidate

sarah palin. she said after she endorsed senator obama, she was asked to take part on attacks on palin. >> in beginning the process of working with then senator obama after i ended my campaign, we had as i describe in the book an awkward but necessary meeting to clear the air on a couple of issues, and one of them was sexism that unfortunately was present in that '08 campaign. >> were you asked to be critical of her? >> yes. that very first day, the obama campaign said, we want you to go out and criticize her. i said for what? for being a woman? let's wait until we know where she stands. i don't know anything about her. do you know anything about her? and nobody, of course, did. >> the former alaskan governor tweeted this. look who fired the first shot in the real war on women.

hint, at any time the gop. see this excerpt from hillary's book. the fact that she's making a deliberate effort to show that she's a friend to other women. didn't you take that from this deliberate mention in the book? >> yes. let's wait. oh, come on, really. i'm sure they had research on sarah palin moves before barack obama said let's take some shots at sarah palin. let's get another woman to take a shot at another woman. they wanted to use hillary clinton to do it for whatever reason. bob tells us she did that all the time. i guess it's smart politics but it's nice to see what actually goes on. >> isn't it just politics, dana? it is stuff for a man to go negative on a campaign?

hillary clinton knows that. i saw that as a real shot over the bow to the obama administration. she was trying to paint herself as a friend to women and him as not one. >> well, and remember, she's very careful to say that it wasn't president obama himself. that it was the campaign staff. that it was the campaign that asked her to do that. i think when you lose in the primary and then you reconcile and you agree to campaign in support the candidate, in this case it was clinton supporting obama, that -- clinton had a leeway and a lot of leverage to say look i will do some things. that's just something i'm not willing to do. i'm willing to believe that was true at that time. i don't know how long it lasted. >> greg, you are skeptical. they are rough and tumble politicians but it would be smart for her to say i'm not going to go after her and start this female cat fight. the clintons are smart when it

comes to political maneuvering. do you buy it? >> i don't know. i don't buy anything any clinton ever says. is she qualified? that's the question. is she qualified for the job? i can name one achievement i was thinking during the break, one achievement. she makes john kerry look good. that's all i can find. >> that's really tough to do. >> i get the sense from these interviews that she feels like she deserves it, and i feel it's time that we shouldn't be electing somebody because they feel entitled but because we feel entitled to vote for a person. if somebody just ran on the plank, mind your own business, they will win. i'm so tired of people intruding on your lives. somebody with a disdane for ziettlement and intrusion. mind your own business, that woman would win. >> you bring up a good point, in 2008, it's my turn and now it will be it's really my turn. juan, can i ask you about this

clip? she was asked what her biggest accomplishment was and she couldn't name one, however she did say she restored leadership to the world. take a listen. >> the most important thing i did was help restore america's leadership around the world and i think that was a very important accomplishment, we were flat on our back when i walk in there the first time. we were viewed as being untrustworthy as violating our moral rules and values. >> that was npr, but not sawyer. what do you think. >> she's right. that's the part of the story we aren't talking about at the table. she came after the two wars, after the whole kind of collapse, america being seen as a bully around the world. she comes in and she sees her mig as kind of a reset and by the way -- >> that went well. we're definitely not seen as a bully. >> remember there was a lot of pressure on obama to name

hillary clinton as his vice president because palin was mccain's vice president. you would have a woman attacking a woman. she didn't get that opportunity. they didn't is want joe biden. >> the question was asked of hillary clinton, were you asked to attack sarah palin and she said yes. that is the most interesting part of this. she ease i have -- could have said no, i don't believe so. i don't recall. >> that's the truth. >> she gave a little bite. >> if this is where she's going to start telling the truth, that's very interesting. more telling about the relationship between the clintons and the obamas. >> why did she need to attack sarah palin when the media did it for them? >> sarah palin was a sensation. >> for three weeks. >> i think for more than that. i think that the idea was american women could relate to sarah palin. she was one of a kind. she was a sensation at that

convention. >> it didn't last. >> it did until late september, with the economic stuff. >> when it mattered. >> final thoughts on how she restored leadership? >> by maintaining gitmo and increasing drone attacks. i don't see how she made us more well-liked around the world. i thought we were told those were the bad things, you know. >> all right. ahead, a lot of veterans aren't happy about the deal president obama made to swap five dangerous terrorists with one american who may have deserted his country. lone survive marcus lieu lutrell is one of them. you'll hear from him next. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one.

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release muslim terrorists for a questionable bowe bergdahl. the obama administration defends its decision saying they know what's right. but military colleague don't see it that way. here's his platoon leader. >> we were there on the ground when it happened. we know the truth. i don't see them attacking our story as much as attacking our character, so assume they understand what we're saying is true or they will be attacking our story. >> here's marcus luttrell laying it out. >> from the military perk it was a bad deal. we work very hard. they were high value targets and we spent a lot of time and intel going after these guys and getting them at great cost to us as a matter of fact, and the way that organization works, it's not built from the bottom up. it's built from the top down. >> just my guess, these guys know a little more about what

went on in afghanistan. bringing around your latest. >> he's absolutely right. you don't think about the money, time, intel and all the lives lost that went in getting and capturing those men. the president obviously didn't consider that, besides the fact that now they are released they could kill again. it's unprecedented though to have members of the military to speak out the way that they are and the difference -- one of the biggest differences is their story hasn't change. they have been completely consistent. the white house's story has changed, which is not surprising, but the military, you see them -- they have never come out before in this type of way to talk about the white house and the treatment and they have been consistent. it's shocking that the white house would continue to try to scramble and defame the military. they want to keep going and

defame these guys. it's a losing fight. they should stop. >> john kerry, i believe he was referencing exactly this, whether or not these taliban five are going to kill again, he said that notion would be baloney. >> he said if they get involved, they also have the right to get killed. they would be targets and it's not just for drones. >> it's hard for him to say that on the heels of a deal that so many people are questioning. look that is a bad deal. >> people aren't silly, people know we can get these guys. the question is they were high value prisoners and the fear they get to organizing again, they become a point of pride, we got something from the united states. it makes the united states weaker for dealing with them. i don't think there's any question our military can handle those guys. >> president obama came out, he had his arm around bergdahl's mother. they were hugging. they did this big thing in the

rose garden. photo op, after photo op, then yesterday there was a behind closed doors at the house, they point the finger at chuck hagel, saying it was his idea. >> can i mention the thing about juan was saying, whether they would kill again? the top intel officials that testified, they said four out of five at least will be linked to future killings of america. that's why i think john kerry is trying to help president obama get this behind it but saying ballo balloon -- baloney. first, the white house said congress was briefed, then congress said no. well, you were told before. no, this is not good enough either. on the ninth day of this problem for the white house, they hit

upon, ah-ha, it actually was chuck hagel's specific decision not to do with the president because in the strict reading of the law, that is what it says. i don't understand if that's true, then why wasn't that first point and still to me it's a little bit of a lame excuse. >> a lot is also being made whether or not the taliban was paid money. some people said they were asking for money. they flatly denied, the administration flatly denied it. >> money to the taliban. not necessarily to haqqani. >> therein lies a very interesting story. are they buying terrorists? >> the assumption that they are going to kill again is unfounded i talk to some people in the field they said they are going to start a book club reading dreams of my father. we have nothing to worry about. he blames hagel. that means if something is popular, president obama gets credit. if it's not popular, somebody else gets the blame. so the buck only stops with him if he can keep it. he doesn't take -- never gets

hurt by any of this stuff. i mean, this is a white house that thinks releasing coal into the atmosphere is more dangerous than releasing terrorists in the field. they have the arrogant and attitude of green peace undergrad who knows better than anybody. there are students who haven't left campus. no wander they think it's all going to be rosy. >> that's actually not an exaggeration. john kerry did say that climate change was a bigger concern to americans. >> can i play -- this is actually a great montage we put together. >> this is not a political football. it is important that our veterans don't become a political football. >> that it ought not to be a political football. >> it becomes less of a political football, which is

where i want it to be. this sunt be a political football. >> yet another partisan political football. >> unfortunately right now the federal budget generally has been a political football in washington. >> i think it reinforces the idea that this is becoming a political football. >> this is to create a cocoon against criticism. if you point something is wrong, it's purely for partisan reasons. however, they can do that for the other side. for the left, personal is political. for anybody else it's being mean. they should say something other than political football. it should be mom jeans. >> he doesn't like football. he hates football. >> if he had a son -- >> he wouldn't let him play football. or political football. >> what about non-political football? >> it seems like don't play

whatever, when we don't have the ball. this is the greatest game ever when we have the ball. >> but he has also said phony scandal. now, i think this is at least more euphemistic. >> who kicked off the political football when they brought the parents to the rose garden? that was them. >> you think they brought bergdahl's parents in, you were wrong. they were there for memorial day. they were in washington. >> they said hey -- >> does that mean i can drop by too? >> juan, you said the military has no trouble handling these guys about the five they released. nobody is debating that. why do they have to handle these guys again and capture them

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>> tmz reports that justin bieber underwent bible study in new york city ending with him being baptized in a bathtub. was it all a stunt from a reckless punk? his on tape racism makes don sterling look like donnie osmond. i hope the baptistism helps but it does little if you are still a boob. i ask jb why not stop and just do better. why not decide to be good, step

away and ask yourself what is a good person? then do that. it's easy. call your mom. wait your turn. be polite. drive the speed limit. keep the music down in your car. be a man. why is it so hard to figure out? because decurrency si these days is dul, we mistake the opposite for achievement. add to that a desire for fame which stunts the maturing process. hence the political baloney you see from most stars with the maturity of a water snake. it's time to grow up. soon you'll be the guy left behind wondering why no one screams your name. >> all right, around the horn. could you give the benefit of the doubt? do you think it's for real or a publicity stunt? >> i think it's a publicity stunt and i have trouble

questioning whether or not his intentions are good. now, typically, we see people getting into trouble and then they find gun or they run -- they find god, and they run to god. we've all -- many of us, at least, thought forgiveness. >> i forgive you. >> thank you, god. my own personal god, greg gutfeld. if he really wanted to be baptized in private, he could have but it's on a website. it would be very easy for him to have a member of the clergy come to one of his many manctions and baptistize him and we will never hear about it. that's why i'm a bit suspect. >> is it a promising development? it's odd that it's leaked. >> why would you give this any time? it's a fun story because he's such an idiot. really, he's beyond the pale. i love the quote, justin is

serious about his christian faith. how ridiculous, even if you are saying, i'm reborn as a christian, you believe that about justin bieber, that he cares about the bible, he cares about anything about justin bieber. i don't think so. i think he cares about being a superstar and that's where i thought you were on target in the monologue. all he cares about this teen rebellion, i can do what i want to do. ic go to a whore house in brazil, i can egg my neighbors house and get away with it. >> i'm kind of with andrea, you t give him the benefit of the doubt or do you. >> most of the time when people find god, you hit rock bottom. the problem is we're enabling this. egg his neighbors car, speeding. we kept letting him off the

hook. he needs to be held accountable for something. he will never hit rock bottom and never look to god. it won't be in the internet, it would be in a private somewhere and then you could go good for you, justin. >> what about teenage girls? are they -- what about -- what dana? you love him. i know you love him. >> it's been rough for you the last couple of years. >> you kept the posters up in your room. >> june bieber has passed his sell-by date. his fame came very young. what they really want is a number one hit. that would help solve a lot of problems for the foreseeable future and they don't care about what happens after that. >> they they are opening he will be reborn in another way. >> on the front page of you know

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in this day and age of facebook, twitter, instagram, anything can be posted about you on line and that's why social media prenups are on the rise. divorce lawyers say lots of couples have been signing them just in case thing, well, you know, doenlt work out. the prenups usually dictate that you can't post embarrassing

pictures like one of your spouse in the nude or say nasty things about them or it could cost you. cost you $50,000 each time you do it. so dana -- >> well, qarsing -- embarrassing pictures are in the eye of beholder. >> this is from a person who is the most extreme photos of your dog with everything. >> no. i had one yesterday that was so great but i cropped it protect your innocent eyes. here's what i think. i don't think people need a prenup. they maybe need better friends or better significant others that wouldn't embarrass them in the first place. >> what are you saying? >> or they need to make better choices and not take pictures of their -- and send pictures and you don't need a prenup. >> how come i never -- >> because you are 90. >> that's a problem. >> in industrial revolution, you

had all these horrible injuries came out. now in the technology revolution, the injury is to your character. these things happen to our reputation because we don't know how to deal with the machinery. >> speaking of twitter, you notice our good friend bob beckle season here tonight, but top, very important, i set him up on a blind date. >> oh, my god. tonight is the date. in the spirit of this segment, why don't you teach an old dog some new tricks. his twitter handle is @robert g. beckle. i'm going to break the ice, sit down with a cocktail, not him, he doesn't drink and leave these two on their own. >> do you have high hopes for this? >> i have very high hopes. >> is it someone we know? >> no. no one who works here. i met her in a restaurant with

my wife. >> that is one brave woman. >> is she over or under 21? that's a deal-breaker. >> i have many opinions on both subjects. >> eric had to send a picture of her to bob. >> i took a picture with her. >> was she clothed? yes, she was clothed. i didn't know, man. you know that old joke in baseball, you are at first base and you got any nude pictures of your wife, you know, i got some for you. >> i never heard that joke. >> one more thing coming right at you. stay with us.

>> it's time now for one more thing. i thought of the way i introduced mine. i realized i couldn't. because you would take it the wrong way. okay. >> what's wrong with you? >> it was really funny. just watch this dog and the deer. they are having a little play time. let's see the dog's tail. they basically did this back and forth for hours. i think the dog wanted to play -- the joke i'm not going to say because it would have been taken the wrong way. instead, i will turn it over to

eric. >> okay. over the week, i'm dropping a couple of names, my home away from home, miami, i love the culture, everything about it. saturday night i'm at the bar of a restaurant dennis rodman is standing right there. he wasn't drinking. and then sunday night, check this out, who i bump into. charles barkley. i'm going to put a picture of us on the five. i really love "the five." >> that's a diplomatic answer. >> you have very good luck. i ran into charles in l.a. and i didn't want to disturb him. >> he's the nicest guy in the world. >> in the world. >> nicer than greg gutfeld. >> no. >> this is a feel-good story. shanea brown was a waitress at the waffle house and she was left $1,000 tip only to be told

by her bosses that according to waffle house policy it's too much money. they took the tip. i guess they understand that because maybe receiver -- serve servers. he came back back and he gave her a personal check and she was able to cash it. >> where were these diners when i was waitressing? >> why is that a policy? >> i hate these people. real quick. see this picture. yeah. that's all i got to say. >> is that jesse waters? >> it is. shorts with suits. bad. >> you know who never would wear that is juan williams. >> thank you. i got skinny legs. 20 years ago, everybody was watching that white bronco in l.a. it was oj and that introduced

everybody to judge ito, and marcia clark, there's a poll now that 60% of black people now think he was guilty. >> americans kill americans on the battlefield. terrorists over run an entire city in iraq and is president obama trying to throw his pentagon chief under the bus? this is "special report." >> good evening, i'm bret baier. proposal continues to get an earful from congressional lawmaker who didn't hear a thing about the prisoner swap that sent five taliban leaders back to the middle east, a region that erupted today with new violence, including terrorists over taking an entire city once patrolled by u.s. troops. we have fox team