would mean that cantor would have to win a huge majority to make up. this only alternative might to be run as a write in, dana. >> thanks for being with us. i will see you tomorrow on the five. good night. the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> bill has worked really hard. we had to make double the money because of obviously taxes and pay off the debt and get us houses and take care of family members. >> hillary clinton talking about money, big money that she and her husband are making. but what about income inequality. can she run on that? we have a special report. >> when it comes to children, we need to be there for them. >> thousands of illegal alien children crossing into the u.s.a. from the south. wait a minute. i thought that border was secure. what the heck is going on? we will have a factor investigation. >> also tonight, charles krauthammer and senator ted

ted cruz on whether the obama administration can ever come back from the sergeant bergdahl debacle. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ ♪ hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. we have a very important program for you, including a story on thousands of illegal alien children somehow crossing into the u.s.a. and the feds seem powerless to stop it. also the latest on the bergdahl chaos. but first, the talking points memo on hillary clinton and money. last night, the former secretary of state told diane sawyer that, yes, she makes millions of dollars on the lecture circuit and yes, her husband does, too, but that's okay. >> we came out off the white house not only dead broke but in debt. we had no money when we got there. and we struggled to, you

know, piece together the resources for mortgages, for houses, for chelsea's education, you know, it was not easy. bill has worked really hard and it's been amazing to me. he has worked very hard, first of all we had to pay off all our debts which was, you know, had you to make double the money because of obviously taxes and then pay off the debts and get us houses and take care of family members. >> so that sounds like many americans who work hard making money to provide security for their families, not as much money as the clintons but you get my point. however, if hillary clinton runs for president, how can she even mention income inequality? mrs. clinton gets paid about $200,000 for a speech. and she flies to the venue in a private jet. and do you know what? there is nothing wrong with that bill and hillary clinton have a unique position in the world and many people want to hear what they have to say. mrs. clinton also has a new book out for which she was paid more than $10 million. again, nothing wrong with

that. publisher believing it will make money seeing selling hillary's book. that's capitalism. but it also takes away a big issue. that the democratic party is pushing in order to retain political power inequality. for her book alone mrs. clinton is making more money than most americans will make in their entire lifetimes. so, if you want an example of income inequality, i believe hillary clinton is poster lady. in fact, she didn't even write the book. others did. she provided notes, guidance, point of view, but she did not put the words on the paper. again, nothing wrong with that. so, if i'm reading this correctly, mrs. clinton might want to think about running for president on the republican ticket. she is obviously worried about taxes. obviously a hard worker. and she is making romney-type money in the free marketplace. is she not? also, she doesn't feel guilty about it.

she is a 1 percenter. she has far more cash than most americans even dream of having. now, if mrs. clinton does run as a liberal democrat, and does start spouting income inequality, talking points will be offended. if you really believe that capitalism is distorted, a bad thing, because it provides the opportunity to make millions, then you can't be vacuuming up the money. that would be hypocritical. if the clintons want to give the money to charity, that's another story. but at this point, bill and hillary are living very well. giant homes, private jets, every luxury. again, nothing wrong with that. they earned it. finally, a piece of advice to the democratic party. if hillary is your nominee, stow the income inequality stuff. not gonna play with the folks. that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. reaction with us, here in the studio, monica crowley

who was giggling throughout the talking points memo and from washington kirsten powers who was not giggling. >> not giggling. >> so another brilliant talking point, right, kirsten? >> oh o. no, i would have to say no. >> no? >> i think you are way off on this, bill, because the idea of income inequality has never been that it's bad to be wealthy. no one has ever said that that's a caricature of what democrats believe. it's just saying that -- and frankly, it's not any kind of knock on capitalism. i think that you can have a capitalistic society, and we have had for most of this country that doesn't have such vast disparities between the very well off and the rest of the country. and i think. >> you can have capitalism that doesn't have such a vast discrepancies between the wealthy, hillary clinton, and the rest of the country. so, if hillary clinton felt so strongly as kirsten powers surely does, she would say i'm going to do my speech for 60,000. all right? >> no.

i don't think that's what she would do. >> put 40,000 into a big income inequality pot. >> okay, sure. she could take the money and she could give more of it away and i don't know how much money she gives away, but i would -- i think that's a great idea to try to alleviate some of the disparity. >> you see my point now. >> no, i don't. i still disagree with you. >> capitalistic system. >> you are not exploiting it. >> in a negative way and say it's rotten to the core. >> that's not true, bill. that's not the problem. the problem is this growing disparity. it hasn't always been this way. the country hasn't always had had that disparity. >> history go back to teddy roosevelt and the roaring 20's. >> it's not. >> no, i didn't say it never happened. i didn't say it's never happened. it has happened. >> it's always been this way. >> it was less and then it started growing again. >> you say? >> first of all, the opposite of income inequality is income equality which is communism. secondly under this president, president obama

income inequality has actually gotten much worse, if you want it to be exacerbated, vote for hillary clinton. >> wait, whoa, you are tieing her into president obama. >> because she has already spoken in the last several weeks about income inequality, it is clear that she is going to be make that a central part of her campaign. >> how can she make it when she is in this economic status. >> both bill and hillary clinton are worth upwards of $100 million. that's mitt romney territory. that's goldman sachs territory. she is going to have a tough time coming out standing in solidarity. >> saying this is bad. >> occupy wall street and income ininequality. the hypocrisy stinks from high heaven. that is not going to stop her from doing it she has the protection of the leftist press. >> i don't know. it's the folks she has to reach and they are going to be questioning this as i said. >> reach the folks through the press. the other part is when you look at history and look at socialists and communists throughout history. they have made this exact same argument while living high on the hog.

lux -- socking money away in accounts. the hypocrisy of this is unreal. >> if you were hillary clinton, kirsten, and maybe when we don't see you rehearse and you wanted to be or i'm not sure, all right, and she is has been kind of a role model for liberal women and you are a liberal woman. if you were her, wouldn't you deemphasize this then and run on other things like the war on women and stuff. >> no. because you are not listening to me as usual. >> i'm listening i'm not agreeing i'm listening. >> i disagree with the idea that you can't be wealthy and care about poor people. fdr how just raised earlier. >> you can care about poor people but you can't damn the system. >> she is not damning the system. can you talk about the system and say the system can use some tweaking without throwing it out o. i wanted to address something you and monica were talking about. the way you guys have set this up. there is actually nobody who could talk about income inequality. if it was a poor person you

would say sour grapes. you are sad you are not rich. if it was a rich person you are rich why are you talking about it. >> i wouldn't say that. >> i think you would, bill. >> if i had a poor person on i would say you you are poor and you don't have any right to spout your opinion. >> you would say you should work harder and make more money. >> i think that's ridiculous. i want to give monday cat last word. >> all about -- the far left want socialists want, they want equality. >> nobody is a social its. >> no, no. >> none of these people are socialist gl s lead me just explain. when you are talking about income inequality, when you are left what hillary clinton and obama want to do is take from the rich, sock it to the rich in order to. >> raising the tax rate 3 percentage points? this is like stalin. >> massive redistribution. >> it's not socialized medicine. >> it's about socking it to the rich. not making sure that everybody -- >> -- it's health insurance. >> i think we have heard it now. it was a very good debate, you guys. i appreciate it very much. >> thank you. >> for all you poor people

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trace gallagher on the breaking news desk in los angeles. shocker in the world of politics tonight. we have just learned the sorkted press has now called the race and the house majority leader eric cantor has now lost his g.o.p. primary to tea party activist david brat who was an economics professor. let's get to our chief political correspondent carl cameron who has more on the breaking news out of virginia. karl? >> hey there, trace. the tea party cannons are blasting cannons tonight. worried last week they were seeing some ground movement for mr. brat's campaign. but in the last few days they were putting on a very very brave face. eric cantor, after two and a half decades in the house of representatives, he became the house majority leader, the republican leader of the house of representatives in 2011. he was at times in the early part of his tenure as a leader under house speaker john boehner seen as the more conservative in the republican leadership team.

and tonight he has been defeated by david brat. as you say an economics professor at randolph macon college. mr. brat had been aggressively campaigning against cantor and the republican leadership arguing as tea partiers have since 2010 that there has been not enough backbone in the g.o.p. conservative leadership. too willing to cave in the u.s. senate. too willing -- the democratically controlled senate. too willing to not fight hard enough to repeal obamacare. and now, after all this time, when many thought that the paper was looking for a somewhat weak showing this year compared to past campaigns. they have scored their biggest trophy yet. the house majority leader, eric cantor with about 71% of the precincts counted, the associated press called this race for mr. brat, because it was just not possible for cantor to catch up. his district around richmond and the suburban area there, very conservative. and as i said, for the longest time people thought that cantor would easily coast to victory. something snuck up on him in this one. and now he is defeated.

of course the question becomes whether or not there is any chance at all that mr. cantor could actually continue to compete in this race. speculation already beginning that perhaps he will try to run as a write-in, something that is exceedingly difficult. hasn't happened in a few years. although senator mccull ski of -- of alaska did wins a a write-in after she lost the republican nomination in alaska several years ago. this is a huge surprise. washington is quite rattled, very much caught off guard and tonight the tea party is breathing anew with confidence. they have knocked off the house minority leader and david brat. >> i'm curious to get your take. two years ago talking about eric cantor who won his g.o.p. primary challenge up to 80% of the vote in that case. is it your sense that eric cantor did not take this seriously? we read a couple of weeks ago, four weeks ago that david brat was making a run at his g.o.p. seat.

did cantor just get into this game a little too late this time? what's your sense of what happened here? there will be a tremendous amount of monday morning quarterbacking. part of this is that cantor was accuse of spending too much time in washington dealing with the g.o.p. leadership and not really attending to the needs of his constituency. he has been one of the more conservative members of the g.o.p. leadership. he was often talked about as the possibility as a successor to the speaker should john boehner decide though he did win his primary and expected to win re-election perhaps not to run for speaker or step aside from that now the g.o.p. very much up in the air with cantor out of that row. the question is should boehner decide not to be speaker or step away from congress in a year or two who would be the next in succession. mr. cantor didn't take it for granted but clearly he got caught blind blindsided this is a big defeat. >> he did get caught blind sided. stand by. i want to go to bret baier from. all accounts this really was a surprise.

karl saying look in recent weeks they thought eric cantor might come and win this thing after all. you look at the a.p. numbers tonight, bret, this was a fairly resounding defeat for eric cantor whom many thought might be the next speaker of the house. >> trace, this is a huge, huge moment in the republican party. it's also a huge moment in politics. for the house majority leader to go down to a political novice, an economics professor in dave brat, on specifically, it seems, the issue of immigration. over the past two days, brat has been campaigning, saying that a vote for eric cantor is a vote for amnesty. he has been saying that what he says in public cantor, he said, is not what he is saying in private. on the issue of immigration this raise as issue issue and this race and result about immigration reform. if there was any thought that republicans were going to move any piece of legislation through, this race, i think, changes the

dynamics significantly on immigration. remember are, that house majority leader eric cantor has talked about immigration numerous times and about the dream act and about working with the white house. his opponent, dave brat, took that, ran with it, and got the support of some conservative talk show -- talk radio hosts, he also got the support of the tea party in virginia and the turnout here is what turned the tide. it was thought that richmond and the city of richmond could somehow propel cantor back into the lead. but the gap was too big. and we were hearing up on capitol hill about a few hours ago that this was looking like the votes were just not going to materialize. also remember, the primaries historically have a lower turnout and that in this case, is good for the opponent who now wins. dave brat, a political novice, little money, very little money compared to the

$2.5 million that cantor raised in this quarter. very little money and he takes down the house majority leader. carl cameron is still with us here. karl, we talked about this on the show tonight, on "special report." we mentioned this race. >> sure. >> and, you know, the. >> immigration. the. >> the push back was always immigration. >> yeah. and one of the things, it's a real dilemma for the leaders in this case. house speaker john boehner and eric cantor said repeatedly that they wanted to pass some sort of immigration reform. they specifically said that they did not want to support amnesty but the president kept on going back to the well talking about the need for immigration to be passed this year. the senate had already passed a piece of legislation. so, as leaders of that legislative body, they said they would try but they never promised to pass anything comprehensive. they were going for something much, much smaller everywhere the deliver for cantor was talking about any kind of immigration reform. that gave david pratt brat things club him. amnesty proposal have dubbed

what president obama is pushing it absolutely tripped him up so much so, in fact, that about a week and a half ago, mr. cantor actually held an event in virginia specifically to talk about his rebuck tans to support anything like comprehensive immigration reform something smaller like the enlist act which would allow the children of illegal immigrants who came here before they were 15 to enlist in the military and then after that get an opportunity for a green card and a path to citizenship. certainly that wouldn't necessarily qualify as amnesty. yet, david brat was able to paint cantor in colors that were indelible. as a consequence the vote came out big against him. >> let's talk about the significance on capitol hill. you have the house majority leader taken down in a primary that no one saw as a challenge. this is the person that was believed to succeed or possibly succeed house speaker john boehner. what does this do do you think, in the race for leadership in the republican

party. rocks it to its core. not a lot of people saw anything like this coming. >> there is an organization on capitol hill called the republican study committee. and, frankly, they are very, very conservative. and the republican policy committee, likewise, very, very conservative. they are now newly impawrld. those rebel republicans who have been a thorn in the leadership's side since the tea party revolution of 2009 and 10, now will be empowered. they have got a trophy on their wall now and they are going to demand to be heard. they are going to insist that their issues be reconsidered. they are going to want more and more conservative legislation put on the floor. this is the type of thing that will frustrate no end. the establishment types who felt that the tea party was too extreme and ultimately undermining some of their ability to nominate candidates who could win in general elections there are still a handful of parties out there in the remaining primaries. as the tea party itself has said, they thought that chris mcdaniel was their last best opportunity to oust an incumbent it appears

they have even surprised themselves by ousting a house leader. the tea party is not done. this is an opportunity for them to truly get rejuvenated. they can point to this as an underdog victory on behalf of an unfunded newcomer. an comics professor going up against a guy who for 24 years, 12 terms has been in the u.s. house of since 2011 han the majority leader. the majority leader is the leader of the party, though john boehner is the house speaker, technically that's a job that serves both parties and is meant to be an doppler radar indicated of legislative business. the majority leader that is eric cantor, at least until next year, now has been significantly weakened. it's going to make things a lot tougher for the establishment to get things done. >> it's really interesting tonight to look at these primaries. you have south carolina where lindsey graham arguably could be facing a really stiff tea party challenge. he, too a supporter of immigration reform. in fact, his name is on the piece of legislation.

yet, that issue did not drive south carolina, at least early the polls look like lindsey graham is going to cruise to victory there. we're not calling that race yet but it looks like those numbers are going to get for lindsey graham to win. yet just north in virginia, to look at the conservative outpouring for dave brat, who arguably no one was talking about on the political stage as being a real threat. look at the checkmark next to his name, the associated press calling this race. and it's not really even close. >> significant differences with south carolina as well. lindsey graham knew he was going to face a multicandidate field. he has been spending inordinate amount of time back home, positioning himself. an awful lot of republicans who knew they would be facing a challenge from the tea party and the conservative right in the party, essentially took a lesson from way back when the very first tea party victim fell. he was bob bennett of utah. he lost his seat in a state convention. the winner of that convention and now the u.s. senator is mike lee. but the other senator from

utah, orrin hatch took a lesson from the defeat of bob bennett and metaphorically speaking orrin hatch put on a three corner hat and started tea partying right away and has survived. lindsey graham took that lesson it appears that eric cantor in his majority leader position, either wasn't able or chose not to be as conservative as his would appear to have been necessary to fend off this successful challenge from david brat, largely based on the issue of immigration. one in which while cantor did say he was going to try to pass something, never said it was going to be amnesty. didn't matter politically. >> lit me just review for viewers tuning. in house majority leader eric cantor has lost his political race to political newcomer dave brat an economics professor who ran in the last days saying a vote for eric cantor is a vote for open borders and lower wages. he said congressman cantor has now publicly declared his intention to pass amnesty as soon as he possibly can with president

obama's help. he continued to rally conservatives in virginia. and on talk radio. and he obviously rallied a number of them. joining us now chris stirewalt, politics editor digital for fox. chris, you know, we have had these stories in various races. and it was being portrayed that the tea party was weakened. that the republican party overall had really taken over the tea party message and it was kind of like the empire strikes back. this is a big, big win for the tea party and it's hard to overstate when you take out a leadership figure in a party how much it could rock that party to the core. >> well, i think you can pretty conclusively say that the idea of comprehensive immigration overhaul is dead meat. the president is going to do what he wants to do this will send the loudest, strongest clearest message inside the republican party that the g.o.p. base will not tolerate what eric cantor and what others have tried. you point out south carolina where lindsey graham is having a much better time of

it. i think to graham's advantage, he saw this coming, he wrkd on it it he had a positive message going out to tea partiers. lindsey graham said you and i may not agree on everything, but on the things we do agree on, do i a darn good job on foreign policy and things like that. meantime, eric cantor went negative on dave brat, attacking him with some attack ads that were of some questionable veracity and brat, as you say, a college professor, and here is something interesting. his opponent in the general election, jack tramel is also a professor at the same small college, randolph macon college north of richmond. how about that? >> so, at the same college? >> same college. >> that makes for an interesting walk down the hallway there. >> that will be interesting at faculty senate meetings. it tells you this. when you have a small district. when you are talking about a congressional district like this. the will of individuals is much more easily felt because it's harder to

deliver pig money in a race like this. it you if you you are talking about a statewide race. big tv ads can can have the effect. in a race like, this it's about the grass roots, it's about the door-to-door, like somebody like dave brat has a chance to go around if he has a message that connects with viewers. he can do it. eric cantor did surprisingly poorly in the places that he did well. this wasn't just about a surge of turnout in thedistrictt are traditionally more difficult, more conservative for a more moderate cantor. he didn't do very well in the places inside the city of richmond and in the county where he was supposed to do well. so his own base, to it a degree, desserted him. >> dave brat. economics professor, a political novice who with very little money in this race, defeating the house majority leader eric cantor. it is a political story of political stories. we haven't had many of them yet in these primaries. this is one that we are going to cover extensively. we're going to have all the

results. we'll have speeches, keep it here on fox news channel.

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not conservative enough. joining me now bret baier, anchor of "special report." chris stirewalt, our fox news digital politics editor and brit hume and campaign carl cameron is here as well. look at that lineup. look at those guys. those are four handsome gentlemen right there ready take that us through this. let me start with you, brit. we haven't heard from you yet on this. i want to get your take on the hugeness of this loss for acre cantor. >> first of all, the margin is amazing. i mean, we are looking at now with not everything fully counted in excess of 10 percentage points. this from a guy who had practically no money. he was way, way overspent as has been pointed out by somebody way better known who had not been thought to be in any serious political trouble. of the con generational wisdom on this has begun to form it goes this way. this is bad news long term for the republicans and great news for democrats. and here's why. because it is argued by some, that immigration

reform will now never pass with republicans who will be, you know, very much chastened by what happened to eric cantor, so that's dead for now, and that means that republicans will have to proceed into the 2016 election without their name associated with immigration reform, which will make it very difficult for any republican to be elected president. now, i'm not sure i buy that. but that is how this is being read tonight and in this town, when something like this happens, megyn, the conventional wisdom forms very quickly. >> it seems hard to deny that this is about immigration, however, brit. is there any other out? i know that dave brat was on limited government spending. what else could it be? >> when you look around for a proximate cause for an earthquake like this, that is about all you can see. this issue had been very much in the news in recent days. it had had come to the forefront again. cantor was known to be working to try to achieve some kind of compromise immigration reform bill which he fervently denied was amnesty.

and if you look up the meaning of the word amnesty, he had a point. but, there it is. and among conservative republicans, immigration reform of almost any kind would be acceptable to democrats is a no-no. and he is associated with that and that's the only thing we can look at tonight that will tell the tale. now, virginia primaries like this are open to all voters. it will be interesting to find out as we eventually will whether there are a lot of democrats who came and voted in this primary to knock cantor off. we don't know that tonight. it's impossible to say at this point. we are going to be picking through the evidence on this one for some time. we need a team of csis, perhaps, to help us. >> you are a good stead tonight. i think we can start with you. brit, let me take it from you the from the former host of "special report" to the current host of "special report." already the democrats seem to be trying to capitalize on this. we just got this alert saying this is all about the tea party. the republican establishment has been so giddy so far. saying that they, you know,

that they have beaten back the tea party and that they are choosing more sort of mainstream republican candidates and, ah-ha. no they aren't. do you know who is giddy? democrats. they put giddy in that press release. listen, they had looked around the country at these races where so-called mainstream republicans were managing to push back a lot of these really conservative challenges. that democrats feel that they can run a better race against in the fall. and they were seeing this and then they changed their rhetoric saying, you know what in the republican party overall has absorbed all of the tea party talking points. and they are now more conservative and so, essentially, they are the tea party. now, you hear the different release. and that essentially is, that the tea party has risen again. and, frankly, it has n virginia, to take out the house majority leader, in a race that no one predicted this would happen. in fact, cantor's people up on the hill just this week,

megan, were telling people they didn't expect any issues. they were up a 5 to 39. it was a little closer than they wanted to be. but they didn't expect any issues. when the votes started coming in tonight. it was remarkable to see the outpouring of people saying holy cow. this is really going to make a big displash. -- splash. >> they have got issues. let me ask chris stirewalt is with us as well. lacks like dave brat is going to go forward. what are cantor's options? can can he do a write-in thing like we saw with lisa murkowski? remember that? can can he still get on the ballot in any way? is this now dave brat's for the taking? is he likely to win? >> well, sour grapes are unpopular in most districts. lisa mur murkowski it h. a very unusual case up in alaska. joe miller was a very unusual republican nominee. she had a famous name.

eric cantor this is one house district. i tend to think and i may be proven wrong. i tend to think this is pretty safe republican territory especially given the fact that the democratic side didn't put together much of an offering as we now know both of the candidates, major party candidates in this race are professors at the same college. how about that? they are both professors at randolph maken college. we are not talking about any high wattage big collar campaigns here. given the leanings of the district. i would they tend to think that brat will go on to win. the message for republicans is eric cantor made a fateful decision which was he was going to go to war with the tea party. wasn't going to do what lindsey graham did was to try to make peace with the tea party. he was going to go to war and beat it. he ran negative ads and went to a meeting. he took a spring break meeting with a bunch of disguises down on the sea coast to say you know what? we can beat these guys and we need to ban together,

band together and beat the tea party. the tea party beat him and there is a lesson in that too. >> we are getting word that eric cantor is about to make remarks. we are going to take these just as soon as we get them we are going to take those and we will tell you what eric cantor is saying. you will be able to hear it for your is eric cantor let me ask you. obviously this is a stunning defeat. obviously a story about polling since nobody thought this was a possibility tonight. >> well, we can talk about polling and we can talk about that let's also talk about turnout. if you look at those numbers on the screen there, you will see that the sum total of the votes here was just a little bit over, what, 63,000 votes or something like that? that's pretty small when you consider that a congressional district is usually somewhere in the neighborhood of 600,000 people. and the margin of error is 7,000 votes. that is a margin of error in an city council meeting in some of the big cities in america. so, it was pretty close. it was pretty small. that small a margin means the people with the most

ardent supporters come out. one of the things that mr. brat was able to do because he couldn't afford to run a lot of ads. he went to the conservative opinion makers. he had folks like laura ingraham radio host out endorsing him and talking on the air a lot. he couldn't possibly have afforded the amount of free air time he got on talk radio that eric cantor was trying to buy with paid ads. that's a big deal. it was a low turnout race. worth noting that the weather was foul here yesterday and rained a couple times today as well. so, some of it might have been nature helping out david brat. as for what happens. >> the lord did it. >> at the rain did or maybe it helped. again, it's a very very low turnout here. when it's a low turnout race, that often tends to favor the insurgent. someone trying to create the change and oust the incumbent. that's very much what appears to have happened here. >> the other thing though, the other thing, this is for bret baier, the other thing is what's been in the news this week, just this week alone about this massive

influx of illegal immigrant children along our southern border. reports of near collapse of the border patrol overwhelmed dhs not knowing what to do with them, these leaked reports and photos of the children. stocked in these looks like cages because we are not capable of handling them. and this as a political matter timed so unfortunately for eric cantor given his position on these children. >> sure. and you know what, megyn? he was trying to play all sides. and he ended up playing no sides. he was trying to make points with the folks who were pushing him congratulation reform while he was trying to make points with the folks opposed to it. dave brat it a masterful job with about $200,000 in the bank compared to some 2.5 million for eric cantor. going after radio talk show hosts a karl mentioned laura ingraham, glenn beck and getting them on his side on this particular issue that, as you point out, is in the

news. i want to add that what i was saying before about democrats. kind of playing out here in this first release from the democratic national committee, debby wasserman shoults saying. this tonight's result in virginia settles the debate once and for all the tea party has taken control of the republican party. period. when eric cantor, who time and again has blocked common sense legislation to grow the middle class, can't earn the republican nomination, it's clear the g.o.p. has redefined war right. democrats on the other hand have nominated a mainstream candidate who will proudly represent this district and i look forward to his victory in november. so, originally it wassed that the mainstream republicans had taken over the tea party now the tea party has risen again. and the republican party is in trouble because of it. that's how democrats will play it. and that's how a lot of states will factor it in. >> but what's the truth chris stirewalt? because you and i have been talking on the kelly file about the fact that these

tea partiers have been losing to these mainstream republican parties and betalked about how the democrats seem to have, including ken buy wasserman shoults a talking point generated just a couple of weeks ago that the tea party has taken over the republican party. that they are no longer two distinct groups. they are one in the same and the tea party has won. you and i talked about the last primary night about how that wasn't being born out that particular night. does this shift that? does this change that? >> well, you know, they got to send out something. they can't send out nothing. so they have to send out something. so they say it's the tea party, it's the establishment, the tea party lost. the tea party won. it goes back and for the. in the end that doesn't really matter. what matters is whether republicans are nominating electable candidates, the republican party's future is dependent on whether they nominate electeddable candidates. is dave brat one. >> dave brat so far seems to be an electable candidate. he is, again, as you say, no doe, college economics

professor. and a guy who ran a very grass roots campaign but he is an attractive candidate. he did speak directly to people. he did have a very clear, very forth right message. he doesn't seem to have a bunch of baggage. and he seems to be safe in this district. and i think the other thing is that for eric cantor. going negative, trying to attack, trying to seek and destroy when you are in the greater position, that's not necessarily the right way to go. john boehner faced a challenge in his race in ohio. he dispatched the guy because he got out there and got busy and talked to the constituents and made a more positive case to his constituents about why he ought to stay and why his clout was worth having. >> megyn, let me just. >> go ahead, bret. >> add in. we were talking about the possible write-in campaign and it is possible by the law. eric cantor can have a write-in campaign. there is no write-in vote shall be counted for an office of any person whose name appears on the ballot as candidate for that office is the law he can do this write-in possibility. also, checking whether he

could possibly make an independent run here. so, this is an interesting thing. you remember lisa murkowski did in alaska. this would be an amazing thing if eric cantor comes out and says he is still fighting, despite losing this primary. it is possible by the laugh whether he does it or not is another question. >> and, brit, you know, we are waiting to actually hear the remarks from eric cantor but we are being told that in the brief statement he made there was nothing about write-in candidacy or kinking his fight. your take on it? >> well, it's going -- write-in candidacies are almost always long shots and they rare live succeed. lisa murkowski case, as has been pointed out was a very unusual set of circumstances. my guess is that it's unlikely he will try it i was just down at randolph macon college 10 days ago, megyn to make honorary degree and i made a speech

there i believe i was introduced by brat. i was like everyone else at the time his candidacy had made so little impact i knew what the polls were saying he was well behind it didn't seem like he was a factor. he did seem like a perfectly attractive guy. my guess is he will be -- i guess he said a couple of things, perhaps, that could be questioned. i don't sense that we have some guy here whose inexperience is going to mean that he is going to blunder his way into a campaign and endanger the seat for the republicans. he looks like somebody who chris suggests is probably a pretty respectable candidate who could win this race without too much trouble in party.ict that certainly so, and i think write-in is a lonk shot. the more interesting question tonight is as we look at this extraordinary upset is what does this tell us about the role of the tea party within the republican party? and what it tells me is the republican party cannot ignore the tea party. it must find a way to fuse together the wings of its party to be able to have a

winning season. now, it might be able to win this fall because the odds in the arit met particular and issues and circumstances are so bad for the democrats, but looking -- going farther out the republican party has to find a way to make peace witsself and both its wings and the tea party remains a tremendous source of energy as it proved tonight in electing this long shot candidate or nominating this long shot candidate. a tremendous source of income. >> just when they had fallen out of the news. i want to get new one second. i want to tell the viewers. this we have a brief transcription of what eric cantor has said. and, again, when we have it, we will play it for you. but, basically, he just talks about how he wants to put forth efforts of putting forth conservative solutions. he wants to help families and the most vulnerable, he spent a lot of time on charter schools so everyone can can have access to the american dream and then he says these are the kinds of things i know we will continue working on. there are long faces here tonight. and it's disappointing. i believe in opportunity and look forward to continuing

to fight for things that we believe in. and the conservative cause. it doesn't sound like a man who is going to fight on. carl? >> no, it doesn't. he might be persuaded in he sees something else in the polls. there isn't much of a window to do that. david brat is the congressman elect. his newcomer status and his status as an academic may be cause for democrats to really get worried. they think ha ha ha, eric cantor got knocked off and we got a newcomer we could actually pick up a house seat here. perhaps not the case. this isn't the first time that the tea party's champion has turned out to be an academic. we can talk about ben out in nebraska who was the president of the university and ivy league educated. he won that senate nomination in a walk. david brat could be a new face in the republican party. he will bring new vigor to it he will bring new ideas. because eric cantor ran hard to try to stop this in the last couple of days. one could k. assume as an academic there may not be that much. perhaps there are papers in

there published that could be controversial. his stuff has been pawed over. democrats are going to take another look at it. he comes to the table now with an awful lot of wind in his sales. big, big momentum. he has knocked off the house majority leader. this is a very big deal. he becomes formidable immediately. what we don't know about him is perhaps an opportunity for him to define himself. watch democrats in the next couple of weeks try to do that negatively. >> what happens now in terms of the house leadership position. >> he stays on the job. he will be weakened in it because they will know he is a lame duck. the new house doesn't come in until next year. so we are looking at a situation where is he a primary candidate who is beaten and the election for his seat will go on behind him it could be a lonely place around the majority leader's office because he is now yesterday's news. >> this is like kevin spacey losing his seat on house of cards. before it became vice president in house of cards. it's as if he was unseated

by for those watching at home. >> cantor's ability to herd the cats. is he not the whip but certainly a leader. he has been known to twist arms. that's going to be substantially diminished right now. it will be interesting to see whether establishment republicans in the house try to rally around him establishme republicans in the house try to rally around him and keep him strong or look for somebody else to chair the meetings. >> this is unprecedented for a house majority leader to lose his seat in a primary, has never happened before. never in the history of our republic. has it happened before. >> let me ask you this, bret. is this a virginia thing? because the latest polls just showed something like 62% of the american people were in favor of immigration reform. the people down in virginia don't seem to be so in favor of it. >> no. it's a conservative immigration policy thing. and the conservatives who showed up, the 70,000 voters total for

this small race in a primary on a rainy day, those people care about this issue. and they care about specifically what eric cantor was or of not doing behind the scene, maybe it didn't match up with his public comments about immigration reform were. dave brat tapped into that real concern about this issue of immigration reform. bret is right. immigration reform was on the back burner for a long time. starting to dome the boil on the front burner. i think it's well back in the back burner now for republicans and what does that mean? it may mean good things for the republican party, for the mid-terms in november but what does it mean in 2016? not good things for the demographic shift of this country that republicans who watch these things across the country are very concerned that this issue is going to make it really hard for a republican to

win the white house in 2016. one more thing i should point out. the chamber of commerce actively supported house majority lead eric cantor. the chamber of commerce, of course, is pushing for immigration reform. the power of the chamber of commerce to get behind candidates around the country i think is going to be questioned as dave brat ran specifically against the chamber of commerce. >> you have to stand by because i get to say something -- no anchor has never said in the history of anchoring television. bret baier, stand by. an coulter is joining us by phone. you and laura ingrahm and many others were instrumental in making, in causing this event tonight. you were very much against eric cantor in this race. tell us why. >> well, like most of the

country based on polls, amnesty is very bad for the country, bad for america. good more employers and chamber of commerce. but needless to say i've been glued to fox since this news broke. i'm trying to go to the grocery store and haven't been habl to leave. eric cantor said it's only 3,000 voters. okay but polls get taken all the time of a few hundred people, of a few thousand people and every time the poll is taken, when people know what this is an issue, unfortunately they did not know that in north carolina a few weeks ago. when they know that amnesty is on the table, amnesty loses big. the idea this will hurt the republicans in 2016 is insane. it has always been a winning issue. this is good for americans, good for voters. it is bad for employers looking for cheap labor. but they got -- republicans have to put their foot down to the chamber of commerce and say,

look, if we bring in 30 million, 40 million illegal aliens who are going to break for the democrats we won't be able to give you anything else. that's it. because it's going to be the end of the republican party in this country. >> i know what you want. i've talked to you many times about your stance on immigration. i know what you want. but tell me what you think in terms of the effect this will have on other republicans running their races on a go forward basis? >> i hope it will at least shut down any more happy talk about amnesty this year. i wish it would have the effect of republicans waking up and seeing that this is a winning issue for the republicans. and not just with the republican base. we're talking about african-americans who are hurt the most by illegal immigration. amnesty is just legal

immigration dumping 1.2 million workers. democrats love to talk about income inequality this is the reason for it since 1970 and we need to care about americans first. >> what about the fact eric cantor was said to be very conservative on virtually every other issue nine think that's a wonderful point and i'm glad you keep making it because i've also noticed in the commissary the democrat response is to keep saying this is a tea party victory. i notice they are not saying -- they seem to think that's insulting and will turn people off. they are not saying this is a defeat for amnesty because they know what i'm saying is true, americans don't want amnesty. in fact they were like a moratorium on immigration generally. overwhelmingly the polls have shown that for 20 years but the chamber commerce keeps buying their way into the heart of john boehner and eric cantor and whenever the voters know what

the positions are -- again they did not know in north carolina last month -- when they know they will vote against amnesty not just the republican base, african-americans, legal hispanics, blue collar white colors. >> joining us on the phone is laura ingram who was instrumental. she campaigned for brad, rallied for brad and must be very pleased with the results. your take on it, laura. >> i was just celebrating my son's 6th birthday when i noticed my phone going off. i just heard the stunning news. look, i have been catching a little bit what you all have been saying on the panel. i want to add this. on a beautiful day a week ago, tuesday night, 623 people showed up at eric cantor's own country club in glen allen, virginia. they could have done anything

else that night. it just wasn't tea party folks. people from all different back grounds who were really tired of the representation that they have been getting, they weren't particularly people who da lot. politics before. i had a chance to chat with a lot of them. they are tired of the business as usual in washington. they are tired of the establishment mindset that sheriff's office this idea that amnesty is the only way for the republican party to survive. and they made a difference. and this is a massive wake up call to the republican party if they choose to actually, you know, wake up at this point. if they don't, if john boehner and paul ryan and the rest of the crew and the gop establishment moves forward after this race with this idea of quote immigration reform which is a pathway to some type of amnesty eventually they will put a wedge down the middle of

the republican party that will, in my mind, prevent republicans from winning in 2016, exactly the opposite of what they are contending. so this is an amazing moment for the people. it's not to be discounted. it's something that happened on a rain jay day. these are the people who were out spent 22-1. >> just so the viewers know, eric cantor raised $5.5 million. dave brat raised $206,000 and spent $122,000. >> right. at the end, i think he was getting $25 here and there. he just didn't have very much money. what he has is a lot of heart. and he's a compassionate, kind very canny thinker for somebody who has not been involved in politics. people say what will he do he done have any experience. everybody who is saying that,

what have the experienced people done for us. we have one one five people living in poverty. 62% of the people in this country think we're going in the wrong direction. we have a flat lining middle class. so i think there are a lot of people out there tonight saying this could be the beginning of something really big for the republican party, building a coalition. ann was right with black americans, with asian americans, latino americans who want to see rising wages and a better life for legal immigrants and american citizens. that's what this is all about. it's an absolute repudiation of establishment politics. anyone on television tonight who tries to discount that is doing a disservice to people watching. >> i have more to ask you. i want to ask you about the democrats who seem to be happy about this and whether you think this is a win of a battle and potential loss of a war, but i

can't do it yet because i have to do a restart of the show. stand by as we bring our viewers up to speed on a seismic shift in politics tonight, one no one expected. breaking tonight a stunning development on this primary election night if you were just joining us one of the most powerful republicans in washington has just lost his congressional bid to a tea party collateraler w challenger who no one expected to win. >> the news breaking a short time ago house majority lead eric cantor has been defeated by dave brat a little known and little funded political novice. his opponent accused him of