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i am bill o'reilly, please always remember that the spin stops here, we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, the stunning march of a frightening new terror group taking control in the heart of the middle east in a vacuum left by america's commander in chief. welcome to the "kelly file", everyone. i'm megyn kelly. new pictures of what may become the newest foreign policy crisis. we cannot confirm this but we're told this is armature video of an incredibly radical al qaeda off shot capturing the fight. this is the same group that 24 hours ago announce add capture where al qaeda flags today fly over a town where hundreds of americans died driving terror forces from this region
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eyewitnesss say when this group swept in, a half million people ran in terror including the iraqi soldiers that we pay to train. this is the third major city this group has taken over. we believe they control all of the territory and are nowhere near down. leaving this country too soon and with no residual forces in place would create absolute disaster is my next guest. four star general, general jack keen. thank you for being here. >> glad to be here. >> and the question i have for you tonight is the vision that osama bin laden had of an islamic state where they would live among themselves and plan jihad against the west coming to fruition as we see that map expand. >> that's absolutely what is
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happening, megyn. this is a 30-year intellect drive for them and forming right in front of us. it begins in syria and moves all the way to the sierran boarder, not everything but a lot of territory and a lot of towns and then northern iraq and western iraq and closing in on the capitol city of some 7 million people. this exists, and it will be the most men -- men nancing thing. >> i understand how people will feel about going into iraq in the first place but we were there and sacrificed 4500 american men and women to liberate that country and people were voting. the iraqis were voting and we left without any resid well forces and announced the
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withdrawal date and people like you that devoted her life to this issue were jumping up and down saying we will lose it all if we don't handle this differently. your thoughts on where we are tonight. >> in places like germany, italy, japan and south korea, where we left forces, we had enormous success. we didn't want to leave forces because of major security problems. we had issues. the al qaeda leadership in 2009 admitted they were defeated and don't send any more fighters. the issue in front of us is to keep an eye on them, keep our intelligence sources, keep our plugs to every intelligence source we have in front of the iraqi security forces and then the work, the political government by staying engaged, we pull the forces out, he recented that. we had no leverage with him and we could no longer do what we had done for a number of years, megyn, that is save him from
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qaeda in pakistan and they have decimated that leadership to a degree as the president has said. what he doesn't tell the american people is that all of that leadership is replaced, almost immediately as was osama bin laden. the al qaeda and affiliates as you noted many times, megyn is on the rise in the middle east and in africa and this is the most significant accomplishment the al qaeda have had to date in its history. >> why are they on the rise? is it -- obviously we left a vacuum behind us in iraq but what is it about -- in other words, is there something we could be doing to be stopping this? >> yeah, absolutely. we have no comprehensive strate strategy, none to defeat al qaeda and affiliates. we need political and military alliances where we can help train peel, provide intelligence, share it, provide
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equipment like we did post world war ii against the communist and said we will not stand for this threat and this was successful. >> why are we doing that? >> we're doing none of that, megyn. we help a little bit in yemen but no strategy to share intelligence and do the things that i have suggested. this is not rocket science. we don't have to fight all these people. we can let those countries do it, but they need intelligence and need our skill sets and the benefit of what we have learned by being these organizations for over ten years. >> general, thank you, sir. >> take care, megyn. >> these city thes over run are the same ones u.s. troops fight and died trying to liberate. 4500 americans making the ultimate sacrifice towards the end allowing president obama to make claims like this one.
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>> i said we would refocus on the people who actually attacked us on 9/11, and today al qaeda is on the run and osama bin laden is dead. >> a former cia officer worked in one of the cities taken over by these insurgents and a fox news contributor and the veteran of the iraq and afghanistan wars. as you see now, you know, iraq basically fall under the control of a group so radical that even al qaeda has disowned it. that the headings are continuing now, they are targeting iraqis in the streets and fleeing for their lives in a city that american troops liberated. what is your reaction, pete? >> it makes me sick. i don't know any other way to look for it. you watch the coverage of this and you're resigned to the reality that we're watching one of the single greatest failures in american foreign policy. i know what it feels like to be a vietnam veteran watching the fall of saigon. it hasn't happened in baghdad
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yet. to go down in the city the where i was, as well, and making their way further down toward baghdad, this state of iraq and syria is an organized group, if they are able to take and seize ground with a strategy to choke off baghdad, which is what they are doing, prevent security forces from reinforcing the gains. they have an intent which the general laid out to operate plan, train and export jihad which is why so many of us were deployed. this commander in chief is obsessed with ending wars with no consequence whether we win them or even if we finish them properly. that's why we're watching these types of things unfold before our eyes. >> this happens on the heels of the president saying we're on the run but a week in which we released five four-star generals out of the taliban out of the prison put there to fight in the first place.
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we have this happening in iraq and now we have afghanistan where we're literally letting out the terror leaders before the war is over. your thoughts? >> well, unlike in this country where it seems the commander in chief is so willing to make decisions about war and peace based upon election cycles, the war does not end for the global jihad. it has not ended in afghanistan and has not ended in iraq, either. i've been in touch with friends of mine inside the intelligence and there are a short hand version this is the nightmare scenario in iraq. this is as bad as anybody could have thought it would get after the decision was made to completely evacuate real military presence out of the country and what you see by the way is something even if the iraqi military were to stand up and push back, we've seen 1,000 people released from prison. the intelligence network that the iraqi army would have can be eradicated. >> they seized the banks, too,
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this terrible group seeized the bank. they have money, they are driving our human -- humvees. >> the police forces according to eyewitnesss, they didn't just leave their post. they didn't just retreat. they took off uniforms, dropped weapons and said i'm out of here. you can imagine the psychological damage that does to civilians around them and yes, as you pointed out they have gotten their hands on hundreds of millions of dollars from a bank. they are moving in conveys of up to 60 vehicles down main highways. this is essentially an al qaeda invasion force and they are close to taking over the northern, western half of the country. >> in the heart of the middle east, pete. that's the things americans have to be concerned about, however you feel, the question tonight is how it ended and what the results are tonight. when you hear this group is so
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radical that al qaeda doesn't want to be associated and now it's basically got iraq under its control, americans need to worry. i mean, if this is the beginning -- if this is centralized islamic, jihad, we're looking at something serious in terms of our policy that needs to be dealt with. >> americans need to wake up as buck said the wars don't end. everybody is war weary and over the wars, iraq whether you think it was right or not, may not have licked it, the reality is right now because of decisions made for a long time, al qaeda is on the march to take the over huge swaths of land they will control and dictate and our president seems not to care. i don't like to indict him that directly but president obama doesn't care what is happening in iraq or syria and not willing to take the steps necessary to prevent -- not that he's a bad
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person. he's so over the wars. this is how wars end. they are messy in the 21st century. >> the general was there urging him to press the president on these issues. >> yeah. >> and it didn't happen. you know, the willingness and desire to get out of the war was robust and yet, the generals were warning there would be real consequences and we seem to be dealing with those tonight. gentlemen, thank you both. >> that's what happens when you listen to politicians, not generals. >> thank you. just hours ago, our defense secretary chuck hagel offered his explanation to free the top five taliban commanders and texas senator ted cruz is here on why he believes this may be a threat to u.s. national security and we're live in texas as we get images of the unprecedented get images of the unprecedented southern beaoarder c [ female announcer ] there's a gap out there.
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not allowed to photograph these folks anymore. they don't want these pictures getting out but we got our hands on these. the children, as you can see, are packed into small rooms and fenced in pens while they wait to be processed, which can take days and they are putting them on gray hound buses and shipping them to arizona with no more than instructions than to report back to officials in 15 days. president obama calls this a humanitarian crisis and deployed resources to find these children families while critics suggest it's the president and immigration policies that created this crisis in the first place. dennis michael lynch traveled to texas in the first 24 hours to get a look at how bad the situation is. dennis, i know you've been speaking with friends and sources there including boarder patrol folks. what are they telling you? >> megyn, today i spent time speaking to boarder patrol people and scitizens here of
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texas and the situation is worse than i thought it was when i was in your studio two days ago. everybody is upset how these children are being treated. they said how some of them are understanding up in houston and being used as sex slaves, all right? they are up in arms about the fact that the president of the united states, his job is to protect american workers and protect american lives and he's not doing that whatsoever. if i can tie this into your last segment, listening to all that going back and forth, here is another thing to scare the viewers so to say. we are ignoring the 9/11 commission report and i have told you already that we know that hasballah and hamas is working with drug cartels. while we have boarder patrol agents playing babysitter, we have people crossing over the boarder and nobody is app p apprehending them. >> that's a problem, the fact the boarder patrol agents are trying to manage what is a humanitarian crisis, little children in some instances,
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children, three, four years old wondering over without parents looking to us to help them and what are they going to do? they are help take care of the children and not do their actual jobs because they don't have the time to do that, they are trying to save lives down there at moment and dennis, you and i talked about the possibility of health issues with all these children coming air cross being kept in pens at the moment. we're trying to take care of them as best we can but we're overwhelmed and indeed the reports are coming out this is from the national boarder patrol counsel that says they are starting to see chickenpox, mersa virus, they are trying to handle immunizations but they are overwhelmed. >> megyn, what about blood tests? nobody is administering blood tests. when these families are being given the comeback in 15 days, they seriously think that's a permit to live in the united
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states. they think it's their paperwork. so they are going throughout the united states and where? they are packing into homes that already have 20 and 30 people in them. that's another health risk. >> look at that little boy. i don't know if we can get his facebook on the screen. it's devastating. he has a smile on his face. he has no idea his parents apparently shipped him up to the united states of america because newspapers down south are offering this type of information to the locals down there. hold on, look at this. this is what you would say in a paper. during their stay in audition to accommodations and food, they receive english classes, play sports, and i'm gages authorities contact families. they make it sound like a day at the beach and the united states is stuck dealing with this and these poor children whose parents apparently wanted a better life for them, dennis, but there is no plan and there
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is no property secedure in plac handle them. >> megyn, here is the thing. most of america is not seeing what it is that fox viewers are seeing right now. nobody else is covering this story like fox. especially you. i know you never like this sort of thing but out of everybody i spoke to today, it was constantly thank megyn for covering this. it's our only hope between the fact you're covering this is one thing where people were up about and number two they were happy what happened with eric cantor. maybe this is the change we have to see for somebody to take this seriously in dc. the other thing, today i was with a woman three generations, she's had her construction business. three generations. they are going out of business because of the competition that's coming in from over the boarder. >> i mean, the children is where the focus is right now and they are true victims. their parents will see. dennis, thank you. >> thank you.
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as our government tries to deal with thousands of immigrants streaming across the southern boarder now, a top immigration reform advocate is warning if congress does not act, the president will. >> immigration reform is not dead. it will just move to the white house for action. if none comes from this house. >> joining andy mccarthy, author of the book "faithless execution building the political
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case for obama's impeachment." we heard in the wake of cantor's defeat, immigration we form may be back in the house but the president is likely to take his pen and phone and do something. his critics say that's how we got in this position with parents and children believing they can cross with impunity. >> he has failed to execute the immigration laws faithfully. he's purported to be able to give benefits to illegals to come in, which has the effect obviously of enticing more ill legality and he's basically made it known that the laws are not going to be enforced, which is prescription for disaster and disaster is what we have. >> when you start with children with these little ones, i mean, you know, i think most americans look at them and say good god, what can be done? it's a tragedy they were sent here but we're the united states
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of america. what are we supposed to do, kick them out? >> as a matter of fact, you have to create a situation where they don't come in the first place and now that they are here, the mere fact you're asking the question is the sort of thing that gutierrez and others are banking on and basically saying the political system in washington is not equipped to deal with this in a methodical way. the president has to come in and act decisively and when he does, it actually exacerbates the problem and we'll be back here a month from now with a new bach of kids. >> there was an editorial who says this threatens to transform the nation. do you believe that? >> i believe the nation is being transformed and this is a come upon innocent but i'm not surge it's the biggest. i took the president seriously when he said he wanted to fund mentally transform the united states of america. that's not me saying so.
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that's what he said he wanted to do. i think he's gone about that in a variety of ways. immigration is a big part of how he did it, but i think what we're seeing now is the old strategy applied to policy. this is this idea you overload the system with crisis and the system has a limited amount of capacity to deal with one crisis at a him. we're at a point whether you get the epa and taliban and now you have, you know, student loans and the next day an immigration crisis. we can't deal with this. washington is not equipped to deal with it and this sort of opens up the area for the president to come in with executive power and try to resolve everything and unfortunately, i don't think we'll like the way he resolves it. >> you can't think to -- maybe you can. president obama wanted to see these children sleeping on plastic tarps in one instance it's 300 children to four showers down there, but this is
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part of some master plan or unintended consequences from a more relaxed policy? >> megyn, when president obama has policies that strengthen islamic supreme see, he doesn't want it to happen. the natural outcome of his policy, the logical place that you end is exactly these kinds of humanitarian catastrophes and they want to be judged by good intentions. >> it's interesting you point that out. we begin with the general how it's starting in iraq now, the islamic state has taken over iraq and have a centralized government they are about to form with a goal of attacking america. we wanted to get out of iraq. the people wanted to get out of iraq. the president promised that. he promised he would be more, you know, kinder and get ler
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when it came to immigration policies. all things many on the left and center said yes, we're behind you on and yet tonight, we're seeing really unfortunate results. >> right. well because you can't run the world on good intentions and you can't run the world on inco-here rant policies where in syria and iraq as you talk about, in iraq the same guy we're targeting like an al qaeda operative is the enemy but if he crosses into the boarder of syria, he's a rebel on our side. >> and we arm him. that's been documented. andy, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> less than 24 hours ago, ted cruz announced he renounced his canadian citizen ship. did you know he had it? texas senator ted cruz is here next. i spent my entire childhood seeing the world in reverse, and i loved every minute of it.
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the intelligence community said clearly that these five are not a threat to the homeland. >> well that was defense secretary chuck hagel hours ago in the first public hearing for the swap of bowe bergdahl. secretary hagel repeating a line we've heard a lot in the last ten days. >> i wouldn't do it if i thought
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it was contrary to american national security. >> these five guys are not a threat to the united states. >> i'm glad to get rid of these five people, send them back to qatar. >> i'm not telling you they don't have some ability at some point to go back and get involved but they have an ability to get killed doing that. >> joining us now, republican senator at the scene cruise of the state of texas. good to see you tonight. your response? you have the president, the senate majority leader, the presumptive democratic nominee, hillary clinton, the secretary of state all saying, assuring the american people that these five guys do not pose a legitimate threat to america. >> well, megyn, that is stunning to see. because what we've seen happen here is the president of the united states has negotiated with terrorists who released five senior taliban terrorists and what they are saying, they are all reading the democratic party talking points, but what they are saying is not backed up
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by the facts. all five of these were senior members of the taliban, which was intertwined with al qaeda, who i know no one needs reminding on september 11th, 2001 murdered people on the american homeland and these terrorists, our young men and women, soldiers went and expended blood to capture them. they were high priority targets. we captured them and by releasing them, you know, the president made one very candid admission. he said it was quote absolutely possible that these five senior terrorists would return to actively waging war against america. we're still fighting the war. the taliban today is fighting against the men and women of our military trying to kill americans today. >> but possible isn't the same thing as probable. what hagel said today, what secretary hagel said today there was complete unanymorety on this
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decision among the secretary of state, the director of national intelligence claper who said we know what is going to happen if we release these guys, he didn't mean rainbows and unicorns. if the chairman of the joint chief is saying don't worry about it and you're the president, why wouldn't you listen to the people? >> listen, number one, this was a decision made at the political level. we know that the commanding generals, the senior military leaders were not involved in this decision. you know, if you want to know the reaction, look to the reaction of the taliban. senior taliban leaders were quoted saying that this release is a huge victory for the taliban, the equivalent of 10,000 new taliban soldiers arriving to fight against america and indeed, senior taliban capture and he just said
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and a quote rare bird as a soldier for senior terrorists. >> what about who is responsible? who rolled out the news with bowe bergdahl's parents and we heard when lawmakers got briefed on capitol hill, the deputy national security advisor refused to say the president made this decision, would not go that far despite being pressed. he would put it on hagel. when secretary hagel testified, he said it was the president. the president seems to have acknowledged that he made this decision. so why is the deputy national security advisor trying to spin lawmakers that it was all mr. hagel? >> well, because unfortunately, national security and the obama administration far too often is treated as a matter of partisan politics. these are the people that
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benghazi focused all on this story about a silly internet video rather than the fact that terrorists attacked and murdered four americans, including the first u.s. ambassador killed since 1979. it's politics all the time -- >> as a political matter, let me ask you this, as a political matter, god for bid they do killed a digs l american, as a political matter, it's not cliek hillary clinton sitting there does not realize that's a possibility or president obama doesn't realize that's a possibility. how can they be so explicit about the fact it's not going to happen? >> well, the white house has a pattern. when it engages in action, particularly extreme action, it prepares people with talking points to vilify anyone who disagrees. it was obvious when the president held the ceremony at the white house with the parents of sergeant bergdahl and a moving ceremony. it was any time you see the
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parents of a soldier whose been held in captivity welcoming their child back, your heart leaps for them. i think the white house believed that they could embrace that moment and that anyone who raised concerns about these senior terrorists being released, they would vilify as you don't care about our soldiers. what they didn't count on was so many soldiers who served with sergeant bergdahl decided they had to speak up and speak out against this deal and didn't count on the american people understand yes, we should always stand with our soldiers. we should never leave a man behind and maybe we should have gone in with military force to rescue sergeant bergdahl. it doesn't mean we should release senior terrorists who could attack -- >> was the price too high? that's what they are asking. two other things, we've been talking about the immigration situation along the southern boarder. you're from texas and this is
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described even by the president as a humanitarian crisis. darrell suggested that children may die, they may die as a result of this influx that we're seeing and we cannot handle. what do you believe should be done with the now, what, upwards of 90,000 people expected to cross the boarder in a year where we expected 6500? >> megyn, this is a humanitarian crisis and the direct result of president obama's lawlessness to enforce the law. in 2011 there were 6,000 expected to cross. this year it is expected to be 90,000, next year up to 145,000. this was caused by in the summer of 2015 president obama unilaterally and illegally granted amnesty to some 800,000 people who were here illegally who came as children.
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and what that has prompted is parents throughout central and south america giving their young children, handing them over to smugglers and worth emphasizing, megyn, these are global criminal cartels and parents are giving them teenage girls, boys, these boys and girls are subject to physical assault, sexual assault, to being sold in the prostitution. it's because the president won't enforce the law and our hearts should be breaking. the answer is to start enforcing the law. get back to when we were enforcing the law and you didn't see unaccompanied minors coming over -- >> so they don't think -- i got to ask you this before i let you go. you had dual citizenship, canada and united states and you decided to date us exclusively. why did you do that, and does this mean you'll run for president? >> as you know, i was born in canada. my mother was an american citizen by birth so under u.s.
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law, i'm a u.s. citizen by birth i. was told as a child i did not have canada citizen ship because i had to claim it. i discovered in the last year that was incorrect that in fact, i had both. when i was made aware of that, it struck me that serving in the u.s. senate, representing 26 million texans, that i should be an american and only an american, so i made the decision to renounce my canada citizen ship and that has been happened -- that has happened. >> got it. suddenly you started to really enjoy lacrosse and ice hockey and said why, why? i'm canadian. we're glad you came over exclusively. thanks for being here, senator. >> i lived almost my whole life here and i love america so i'm glad to be only an american. >> all right. good to see you. and up next, eric cantor has decided to resign from his position as house majority
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developing tonight, eric cantor stepping down effective july 31st after a stunning loss last night to tea party backed candidate brad brat. he's aligned with the tea party. brent, great to see you. i know you see this as a defeat for the establishment republicans and one of the big beeves yvefs you had with eric is when he put his back to the tea party when he went to the conference designed to undermine them. >> it was a series of things, megyn. it was going to ireland to speak to a left wing republican
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organization that is devoted to destroying the tea party. it was refusing to fight on obamacare. it was not fighting on fiscal issues. it was not giving consecorvativ as hearing and time to have a conversation who the real eric cantor was. he was the heart and soul of the republican establishment in washington dc. so we had a national conversation and in the end, voters voted. >> what was it? he was voted conservative on every issue but immigration. was it immigration or more than that? >> i think it was more than that. it was immigration, might have been the tipping point. it was obamacare. people who were trying to defund obamacare ran into an obstacle with him. it was the fiscal conservative whose were trying to advance. they cut cap and balance agenda and got no fair hearing from him. it was the prolifers.
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it was on and on and on where conservatives finally realized this man does not walk with us. he's not a movement conservative. he might have been one day but not today. he's part of the elite in washington d.c. he's the person whose gone along with everything we say is wrong with barack obama. he's funded it all. >> how do you see his defeat compared to lindsey gram's victory? because he, too, was like minded with eric cantor when it came to immigration reform and he won and in north carolina. so the question is, you know, how do you interpret those dualing results? >> well, a couple of interesting points here, megyn. number one, everybody running this year with all this talk about the conservative movement being dead and establishment mean stream republicans, everyone is running as a conservative whether it's mitchell mcconnell or lindsey
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gram. people -- everyone is running as a conservative. it's fascinating. this is the interesting one we'll see, barack obama revolutionized politics when he marshalled the power of social media and he beat the establishment favorite clinic clip in t hillary clinton in the primaries. it was social media that went around the establishment and defeated, megyn, i asked people if they could name in their lifetime a bigger political upset. i haven't seen anything in my lifetime. it's that hmassive. >> frank, good to see you. >> thank you, megyn. coming up, has the end of a controversial stop and frisk policy led to a major increase in violent crime? we'll investigate. music♪
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to a "kelly file" investigation into a debate about public safety, gun violence in new york city reportedly skyrocketing in the last month compared to the same time the year before and we're hearing suggests this is linked to the end of the nypd's stop and frisk program. trace gallagher reports tonight, trace? >> megyn, critics say if you chart the increase in new york gun violence it coincides with police commissioner bill brat's resistance to push the tactics. that's where police stopped suspects, question them and if they believe they have a gun, frisking them. the policy is facing a number of legal challenges but some experts say it was clearly effective and now they believe
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gang members who used to be afraid to carry a gun because they would get arrested are emboldened because they know police have their hands tied. look at the numbers, so far this year gun violence in new york is up 13% and rising. in the last month alone, 129 people were shot, that's an increase of 4 3% from last year. in response commissioner bratten said this. >> we are working against a good year last year but if you look at these stats, over the last ten years, we're doing good. >> bratton says while gun violence is up, homicides are down, some believe that's because of the new york fire department's improved response time and having more ambulances available during peak hours. in chicago, gun violence
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