>> take sammy. great weekend. later. eric: army sergeant bowe bergdahl back on american soil. after five years in taliban hand. hello, everyone, i'm eric sawn. welcome to happening now, i'm in for jon scott. >> i'm uma pemmaraju. he was taken to brooke army medical center where he will receive further treatment and eventually reunite with his family. we learn army officials will hold a news conference later this afternoon to discuss bergdahl's recovery process. casey stiegel outside of brooke army medical center with with te latest on the story. casey? >> reporter: we're hearing from bergdahl's parents. they have released a statement if you will through the u.s. military and they say they are, quote, overjoyed that their son is back home in the united

states but they also say intend not to disclose their travel plans, not to make those public and they asked for continued privacy during this time. but we do know that this will be the spot where sergeant bowe berg dual will be -- bergdahl will be reunited with his parents at some point but when is still very much inclear. we know that the family involvement according to the army is a key part to this particular phase of the reintegration process. sergeant bergdahl's military transport plane landing at lock land air force base in san antonio in the overnight hours. he was loaded up in an ambulance and driven 20 miles or so here to brooke army medical center. this spot is a vast military medical complex. there is a special team of doctors, nurses, psychologists and the like who specialize

helping soldiers transition back into civilian life. how long this process takes we are told is unique to each individual person. a news conference is scheduled for later today, 4:00 p.m. eastern time to be exact where we expect to about bergdahl's treatment plan. and of course, at that news conference we'll be asking questions about more information into the investigation of bergdahl's capture in afghanistan and all of the controversy surrounding that, but frankly we're very doubt if you recall that the military will -- doubtful that the military will provide answers but we'll keep you posted. >> casey thank you. live from san antonio. eric: to iraq now, terrorists are on the march. we're told islamic militants captured two more towns as fighting come closer to the iraqi capital a senior shiite cleric urging people to take up arms to defend their country. bought forces gathering outside

of baghdad, hoping to protect the capital from an onslaught by sunni terrorists threatening to overthrow the shiite government. can they be stopped? how did this situation deteriorate so quickly. we have a former deputy director of the counter terrorist center, author of the book, take down, inside the hunt for al qaeda. phil, what went wrong and how did this happen so quickly? >> what went wrong, you have a government that is supposed to represent the iraqi people but the government, led by nouri al-maliki represents the shia population but sunnis in a lot of the anbar province where you see a lot of this government. we're not represented by this government. maliki is taking over. eric: u.s. said they were concerned about this for months. >> you could see this coming but when you sit in the situation room at the white house and you get out of the beltway and go into that decision-making

process you realize that your decisions are really constrained. you want to use air power in urban environment where a lot of civilian lives are at risk? that is difficult. you want to put drones in? you better have a very good intelligence picture. you can debate what to do in the environment when you see it coming in advance. the reality, the options you have are very limited. eric: talking about potential airstrikes. they're talking about drones. do you think that will work? >> i don't think it will but remember i think we ought to keep our shorts on here for a minute before we get too breathless. there are characteristics of insurgent groups that take over territory. they not only take it over, they have to govern it. they have to govern with a population that is suspicious. with tribal commanders that don't respect them. you have the shia in the south rising up they say they will fight. the government is getting a little backbone. before we get too excited, recognize the extremists have a long way to go before they succeed here. eric: do you think they can take baghdad?

>> i don't think they can take baghdad. they can cause a lot of trouble in provinces they have been active partly because they have a loose back door here. that is the back door into syria. when the heat gets turned up they have a place to go. i think this fight will go on for a long time but i think the ebbs and flows will be something we'll talk about sort of over days and weeks because the ebbs and flows will be very rapidly changing. eric: talk about ebbs and flows. look what is happening to assad and militants in syria. what do you think will happen in iraq? what is the future of that country? can they be beaten back? >> i think over time the government's going to have to show that it represents the will not only of shia but of sunnis. if they don't show that, whether it is isis, that is the extremists now or some other extremists or tribal group in the sunni areas, the government's going to lose governance over these sunni areas for a long period of time. this is not just about fighting a militancy. this is long term showing the people when you already lost their respect, showing them that

you represent the iraqi people. this ain't about just a fight against a few people in mosul or someplace else in iraq. it is about governance. so far this government is showing they can't do it. eric: so you're talking about a split partitioned country, perhaps even worse, a whole islamic swath that stretches from syria, right down through major parts of iraq that potentially could threaten us? >> for some period of time. i don't think they're a threat to us yet but for some period of time of. the american perspective on these things tends to be very short. days and weeks much the islamic perspective tends to be years or decades. the real question here over time isn't whether there's a fight in most all. -- mosul. it isn't whether there is fight in baghdad. when the extremists take power they made the same mistake they made in egypt, algeria, somalia, yemen. once they take power, can they govern using compromise or will

they start cutting people's heads off. if they do what they have done in the past elsewhere, they can not control the will of the people and they won't be able to control territory forever. eric: this happened so fast, so quickly. certainly the president of the united states will speak out at some point rather shortly. finally, what do you want to hear from president obama and what do you think he should do? >> i think the problem with the president is he is going to have to suggest that he has power that he doesn't really have. there is not much we can do here. we broke the china. we left. now maliki has made his bed. he has to figure out what to do about it. without foreign support, as i said urban fighting, what are you going to do? are you going to start shooting up streets from the air in mosul and killing civilians? you will be seen backing government that doesn't respect the will of iraqi people? you will put in drones because we don't have a intelligence picture? the president will not say what the truth is, with all the lives

lost in iraq we have very few options. eric: that strikes at very chord and heart and soul of this country of all the lives lost and all the american blood that was spilled. phil mudd from memphis. thank you very much for your perspective. we'll stay on this story today. >> thank you. eric: uma? >> another big story with the growing crisis along the southern border. tens of thousands of illegals crossing into the united states many of them from central america. many of therm children, housed and cared for. states calling on u.s. government to secure the border. will carr joining us live from los angeles bureau with more on the situation. will? >> hi, uma. border patrol officials are saying they're overwhelmed with this crisis, it is offering the perfect opportunity for cartels to get more and more drugs into the united states. we have some video from "the washington post" and some new pictures that showed conditions that these kids are in right now. hundreds crammed inside of

buildings together. many people are now calling this a humanitarian crisis. there have been claims of abuse against the immigrants who fled their countries for several reasons, due to violence, wanting to reunite with their family in the united states and because many believe if they make it into the united states they will get a free pass. >> they are being shackled. they're being routinely denied food and water and medical treatment. and they're suffering at the hands of cbp. we want this to stop. >> we called upon non-governmental organizations, volunteer organizations, and charity organizations to assist in this effort. >> reporter: many of the children are being held at three military bases in california, texas and oklahoma. while the government tries to figure out exactly what 20 do next. the immigrants flooded into the u.s. from several countries in central america. yesterday homeland security secretary jeh johnson made it

clear those who come here illegally are not eligible for immigration relief. he admitted, uma, if the children's parents are here in the united states illegally, it is a top priority to reunite the family even if it is on this side of the border. >> such a difficult situation there. will, thank you very much for updating us with that story. eric: uma, eric cantor's shocking primary defeat, it has the republicans scrambling to replace him as majority leader. more coming up on his likely successor and what that could mean for gop chances in november. speaking of politics, we want to know what you think. will hillary clinton run for president in 2016? hey, will the sunrise this morning? will the sunrise tomorrow morning? is derek jeter going to the hall of fame? log on, foxnews.com/happeningnow, click on "america's asking" tab to weigh in whether you think mrs. clinton will try to go for the oval office.

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going forward? leslie lowery, political reporter for "washington post." he joins us. great to see you today. >> great to be here. uma: talk about kevin mccarthy, as i understand it, he used his great networking skills and personal relationships to cement this deal. >> of course it is a huge part of it. kevin mccarthy was chief recruiter for the 2010, for the gop. during tea party insurgency, they picked up a lot of house seats. kevin mccarthy recruited people to run. he has relationships with back benchers that other people vying for leadership didn't have. he knows the caucus top to bottom, being a member of leadership and being one of recruiters to candidates that became members of the gop majority in the house. uma: he knows how to schmooze and have lunches and meetings at any given moment. that is interesting because this is his fourth term in congress. >> this is fastest rise of a mat

majority leader if it happens, remember we still have a few weaning before the elections happen. a week is a eternity here in washington, d.c. a week ago we never would have imagined eric cantor would not be the majority leader. with that said he has one of the meet record i can -- meteoric rises of all time. uma: is there could be concern by the tea party inside baseball that remains within the leadership, old boy network? >> of course. there are two different elements here. the first element i'm sure we will see some more conservative or tea party candidates floating their names at very least. it is unlikely we have a unanimous decision here that no one challenges him for majority leader. at least no one even floats their name. there will be people coming out to the right of kevin mccarthy that float themselves as an option of the second thing here we have to remember, after november, after selection there will be another set of elections. john boehner will have to be elected speaker of the house.

of kevin mccarthy if he is majority leader he will have to be elected again. we have whip race. there could be tea party person elected that. there will be down ballot consequences one way or the other. i would be surprised we end up with majority leadership of gop does not include anyone with more conservative or tea partiesque congressman. uma: are you surprised? it appears it has gone smoothly at this point with sessions bowing out? >> it has. a part of that you had a division. kevin mccarthy operated very smoothly here. i remember being in the capitol on tuesday night while everyone was still trying to digest the cantor had lost. lights were on in kevin mccarthy's suite in and out of the offices trying to start this thing up. i will not say anything out of respect for eric cantor but he was working hard. get the people early and get them back you for majority

leader it really hurts anyone else. so the issue sessions and hensarling ran into here and other potential tea party conservative candidates for majority leader, they ran into an issue where they didn't line up the votes quickly enough. uma: fascinating and thank you for your insights. >> thanks for having me. eric: next up we have a update on comedian tracy morgan. he is still in the hospital. what we're learning today about his medical condition after that deadly highway crash in new jersey. have you seen videos and pictures? took take a look at this, people sleeping on the floor, in the hallways crowded with no place to go, many of them children. it is the growing humanitarian crisis on our southern border we have been reporting on and exposing all week. thousands of illegal immigrants, many of them kids, crossing into your country, all alone, and needing help. it's a known fact that 100% of the swordfishes

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uma: will carr reported a short while ago a dire situation at this hour on our southern border. it appears to be getting worse. tens of thousand of illegal immigrants from central america, many of them children are still crossing into the u.s. the federal government is packing them into crowded facilities there but there is no letup expected in the surge of youngsters coming into this country. joining us on the phone with the very latest, bob ortega, the border reporter for "the arizona republic." bob, thank you so much for joining us. i want to ask you from your vantage point, can you give us a description of what you're seeing first-hand? >> of course we're seeing children being brought here from texas and then also there are families, that is to say, children accompanied by parents who are being shipped here by bus as well. so we're not seeing them directly coming over. most of these children are crossing in the rio grande valley. what we're getting essentially is the overflow that customs and border protection is unable to handle or process in texas.

so, we have, for example, a couple of large facilityies here here -- facilities here where they are processing the children. ostensibly they are to be processed in 72 hours and sent on to health and human services facilities but, you know, they have been up front saying they're not meeting that 72-hour limit because of the numbers. uma: talk about the children themselves. many of them separated from their parents? >> well, there, yes, there are two different things happening here. first of all we're getting some families that are being sent by bus to tucson or, to phoenix, arizona. separate from that, we're seeing unaccompanied children, that is to say, minors, people under 18, who are being taken to facilities that are operated by the border patrol. there is, facility near nogales where they're going right now. there is about a thousand

children. we're told there is more than a thousand children there this morning. those children are being processed and sent somewhere -- uma: when you say they're being processed though, what, who is taking care of them? give me a description of the scene there is like. you said a thousand children. that so some youngsters all at once, who are being processed whatever happens to mean at the moment for those kids. many don't know who the families are or where they are from? >> we don't know exactly what it is like inside there because we haven't been sent in. you have seen some video that has been released. that has been at a couple places but that is from facilities in texas. so far we have not been able to get in nor other media in the holding facilities in nogales. initially they had real problems because they had 1000 kids and four showers. they had issue getting food because all there was at first was burritos. there were contributions coming in and in the, in their hiring of contractors to be able to

address this. so, you know, according to people we've talked to, who have been able to bain access to the facility, for example, the mayor of nogales. uma: who is telling you no? who is saying you can't get access? >> customs and border protection. both senators flake and mccain have put in requests to secretary johnson at homeland security to allow media into the facility in nogales. and that is an ongoing discussion. we're hoping to be able to get in there soon. uma: absolutely you should get access along with the other media because it is important for the american people to see what is going on out there and get a sense how difficult the situation is. >> yeah. and you know, for these, for a lot of these children, i mean, you know, as you may have read or discussed, these are primarily children not from mexico but from central america, particularly honduras, guatemala and el salavador. they are fleeing in many cases significant increases in violence in, what were already

very violent situations in all three of those countries. it is interesting, just to note, we've been talking to some folks down in el salavador and hon durus. one of the things reported is increase children seeking asylum in other neighboring countries. children from the places are going to panama. they're going to costa rica. they're going to mexico. so they're not all just coming up here. they're going to a variety of places. >> how much of a load is mexico taking on at all if any? you pointed they are going through mexico but doesn't seem like they're taking much responsibility here? >> well you know, i don't know at this point. we have actually asked but we don't have an answer to that question. whether some of these children are, that is how many children are staying in mexico. the ones that are coming up here by and large as far as we can tell, seem to be coming up here because they have family members here, or, you know, they're

being brought in some cases by, you know, older people or family members much of the way up and then finishing the journey on their own. we obviously, this is, you know, one thing to have anecdotal evidence about this. another thing to really know how much, exactly how this is happening. we're doing more reporting on this and we're hoping to get a better and clearer picture. uma: we will look forward to hearing your updates of course. keep us posted. a heartbreaking, desperate and very serious situation there, this humanitarian crisis continuing to grow each day. thank you very much for joining us today. >> my pleasure. eric: uma, meanwhile while that is going on the southern part of our border there is chaos continually in iraq. those islamic terrorists vow to march on baghdad as more towns are falling to those insurgents with fighting closing in on the iraqi capital and the pressure on the white house is growing for the white house, the administration, to try and do

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uma: welcome back, everybody. we have a fox news alert. we are awaiting president obama who will be speaking in just a short bit from the south lawn about iraq, the geeing crisis there as militants continue to wage terror against the communities and towns in that region. they have already taken mosul and tikrit on the way to baghdad now. a lot of people are saying the united states needs to take some kind of action. others don't agree. we've been waiting for the president all along to make some type of a statement about the worsening situation in iraq and we understand we will be hearing from him shortly. when that happens, we will bring that to you live. eric? eric: uma here is quick look what is still to come on

"happening now" this morning. we'll break down some graphic new testimony in the trial after man accused of killing a college student in new hampshire. his former girlfriend back on the stand today. protests greeting tourists as they arrive in brazil for the world cup. we'll have a live report moments away. harrison ford? he has been hospitalized after an accident. he is filming the new "star wars" movie. uma: police in phoenix releasing a brief description of the suspect who entered a catholic church and shot two priests killing one of them. in an attack earlier this week that stunned this community, dominic di-natale joins you from los angeles with the latest on the situation. dominic? >> reporter: uma, this is indeed short details coming from the police. they are looking for a white male, age between 40 and 49. they're not sure if he is the lone suspect or whether he actually had help in this horrific attack really has shocked the phoenix area, not just the catholic community where the mother of mercy seemed to be targeted in this assault.

one of the priests dying of the two that were actually assaulted. father kenneth walker, just aged 30, just aged 29 and his colleague, father joe testify terra, 5. he managed to survive the attack and ministering the last rites to father walker before he was taken to the hospital and died of the city is very shocked. not much detail because there is no surveillance footage at the scene of the crime. the police say they do have some forensic leads. >> we do have some strong physical evidence we'll be able to follow up on. the phoenix police department will exhaust our resources into bringing to justice the individual who committed that crime. >> reporter: the reason they have so little information at this time is because father terra was beaten so badly in the assault, he is has been in critical condition. we understand that he is in a

stable situation today. we hopefully will actually have an update on father terra's condition from the mother of mercy mission later on today. last night, prayers around canned dills and votives lit at the mission with prayers for recovery of him but apparently his condition is really quite severe. back to you. uma: such a sad story. dominic, thank you for that update. eric: uma, the obama administration is facing heated questions from the media over the deterioration situation in iraq and past claims that al qaeda was decimated and ending the iraq war could be one of the president's greatest achievements. >> given what we're seeing now in iraq can you still claim those as two of your signature achievements? >> there is no question that the president pledged to end the war in iraq and he did and that was -- >> there is no war in iraq right now? >> u.s. combat mission. >> u.s. combat mission. eric: islamist terrorists are on the move and we expect the

president to speak out about the situation in iraq in moments. joining us is judith miller, pulitzer prize-winning investigative journalist, fox news contributor, tammy bruce, radio talk show host and fox news contributor. judy, let me start with you. how did this explode on the front pages yesterday without anyone seeming to notice? >> that is because no one has been paying attention to iraq, eric. i mean there have been a couple of reporters who have stayed in iraq, who have been covering the growing power of isis in the part of the country that is inhabited by sunnis who have been unhappy for years. when i was there as we were pulling out in 2010 you could talk to people who said we're worried about mall la iky. we're -- malaki. we're worry what he will do without the americans. but the american media are so busy playing the blame game, who is responsible for this debacle

they don't even attention to a story there and available for all to cover for far too long. once we left iraq, iraq no longer existed on the map of the world and in america's consciousness. eric: tammy, the administration reassured all of us that the iraqis could handle it. that's why we're out. >> well look, this is what is interesting also about this exchange here. this now is a situation that is unfolding on the air with media because we don't have anyone on the ground. administration as you saw with that exchange doesn't really provide any helpful information. the briefings over the last six years have been a exercise in futility. john karl becomes the statement, which is very interesting. i've been surprised, i know the president is coming up, i think it's a plot against our segments here on fridays, but he is coming up again here and i'm concerned that we pretty much say into the media we'll not have boots on the ground or what we'll do or what our strategy

is. you know the enemy, via satellite, via internet, is watching that news. this is playing out in the media. only now because suddenly it is undeniable. part of it is, there has been as judith says, no real interest because it hasn't been helpful to obama or the administration to cover it because it is so alarming. eric: more than that, judy, did the media buy the line from the administration and just say, okay? >> i think americans were very happy, to quote, leave iraq after all of these years just as they're very happy to leave afghanistan. the real question what happens when we leave and circumstances under which we leave. we'll go on fight about that, eric, for a long time. it is interesting the exchange we heard between jay carney and john karl, that wasn't apart of the abc report, that heated exchange on the situation in iraq and who is responsible and how did this situation occur. just as if, oh, wow, we woke up

one morning and isis, our enemy, that is al qaeda aligned group, they're even too radical for al qaeda, is suddenly threatening baghdad. it's a failure, yet another failure of reporting. eric: tammy, do you think it is a failure of the media also or the administration or malaki for not signing that status of forces agreement? >> look, everybody as, judy says, everyone wants something to be over but we don't think in the long run. i think there has been such a lack of information, i wonder how many reporters were looking up a cartoon character named isis and wondering what the heck it was going on. we have to look at this as a framework as failure of the media in general for six years. they have listened to, when major garrett was with fox, asking hard questions and ed henry. suddenly abc did not report on this, because it highlights what they vane been doing for six years. it is concerning that when the media does its job or when somebody from the legacy media

does its job, suddenly it is a revelation. asking a difficult question shouldn't be shocking to people and john karl shouldn't be considered a hero and abc in their ignoring of that exchange tells you that they know it highlights what they have not been doing. i think it has been kind of a confluence of what the administration wants, what the media prefers, and yes, you know there, is a reason that the american people, we're not the ones who necessarily decide everything. it is a representative democracy, what we would necessarily want isn't necessarily always what should happen. it seems like everything is turned on its head these days. eric: tammy, judy, it faces nating that question, a tough question is asked, and as tammy says, apparently was not aired and was, did not see the light of day at abc but saw the light of day here on fox news. thank you to both of you. we're waiting for the president to come out and address the nations in a few moments at the white house. we'll bring that to you live as soon as the president appears.

thank you. uma? uma: prosecutors say a night of rough sex and bondage ended with the death of a college student. now a new twist in the trial of a new hampshire man accused of murder as his girlfriend, the prosecutor's star witness, takes the stand again. our legal panel weighs in on this bizarre case next. care what age you are. take it on the way you always have. live healthy and take one a day women's 50+. a complete multivitamin with 7 antioxidants to support cell health. age? who cares.

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taking city after city as they head, they say toward baghdad. president was in the oval office meeting with australian prime minister said they were on top of this concerning with the developments in iraq for several months. this seemed to take everybody by surprise as tikrit fell, mosul fell, other cities fell. they seem to be near baghdad although experts don't think they can take baghdad. we'll see what the president has to say especially amid reports that the president turned down the request by nouri al-maliki for airstrikes. the administration said no. could that have helped them? what does the administration do to try to help the iraqis and prevent the situation. uma: this terror group on the main road going towards baghdad, the road is littered with bodies of people and decapitated torsos there, victims of this terror

group. they're saying they are just using some of the equipment that belonged to the united states and they are trying to seize these vehicles for their own purposes. they don't know how to use all of it, but they're doing what they can to make use of it at a time when the conditions there are fast deteriorating. what we saw yet from the situation in mosul and tikrit going down the police and soldiers were just giving up, they were running away. eric: supposedly they have stolen humvees and ammunition and as well as hundreds of millions of dollars as they continue on their march. this all begs the question, what did the administration do or not do in trying to remove our troops and not signing that status of forces agreement. was that a mistake, not negotiating that to try to protect the situation more. bret baier, anchor of "special report" joins us live with more insight on that. bret, the president will address the nation in a few moments from now. what do you expect him to say? what can he say?

>> well, you know it is interesting to see. i think we'll find out whether the administration is going to step up with airstrikes inside of iraq. the going bet is that they won't. but, this is getting to a point where you are having potentially a failed state in iraq as these, it is not just terrorists. these are organized battalions of radicalized extremists, islamic radicals. they have co-opted some of the sunnis, the baath party, who has really been pushed out of prime minister mall laakky's government in iraq. there is uproar in the sunni community. they have signed up with this effort by this group, isis, that is almost, they are, more radical than al qaeda. uma, describing some of those pictures on the roads.

there are amazing stories. muslims not conservative enough, sharia law compliant enough getting killed by this group along the way. mosul, tikrit, few smaller towns, 30 miles outside of baghdad, with obviously the goal to take over the capital city. meantime, iran has stepped into baghdad, the head of the quds force, essentially their special operations force working with prime minister prime minister maliki, theying they will defend the capital city, something the u.s. didn't want to see, seeing irrather than take a primary role in the defense of baghdad. what the president will say is key because this is the biggest geopolitical story developing at this hour and has a major impact for the entire region. eric: bret, the administration has come under criticism for not negotiating better with malaki for signing that status of

forces agreement. could they have, number one? and you talk about the global situation, islamic state of iraq and syria, could pose a looming islamic state from syria through a whole swath of iraq and that would be a against a host of american interests? >> questions about the status of forces agreement that is clearly being argued again. also all of the arguments being in iraq in the first place. that goes back years obviously to the bush administration decision. but the argument during the obama administration, whether they could have left forces, i think you see many retired military and even active military saying that the recommendations were to leave a force on the ground. could it have prevented this? depends who you talk to. but it clearly would have had prime minister maliki thinking twice before purging a lot of the military as he did because the force on the ground, the u.s. force, was really

integrated to training those iraqi forces. what happened, according to general keane and others that malaki hollowed out the force. much like a house being eaten from termites, from the inside, when those ice sis forces -- isis forces came into the cities, they ran away, iraqi forces, that previously been able to provide defense. no matter the equipment that the u.s. provide you have to have people with the expertise to use that equipment. they, according to all accounts can not fly these missions to provide air cover and backup. and, that is really the question for this administration as we await for the president on the south lawn as he heads towards north dakota. whether, whether he is going to get involved at that level or not. uma: bret, talk to us about evacuations that have taken place already in iraq of contractors and other personnel there. >> yeah.

the ballad air base had u.s. personnel and they have been pulled out. they have been evacuated. this is the warning we're getting for the president to come out. they have pulled out of that area, uma. whether the facility is going to be evacuated. it is massive and a fortress. with the terrorists on the move with battalions of sunnis backing them up, iranians playing a primary role in the defense of baghdad there has to be a concern about u.s. personnel in baghdad and their security. eric: you know, bret, this morning experts said they do not think basically that baghdad could fall. what do you do without american trainers there? when you have an army, the iraqi army that just laid down their arms and flee? they surrender. they give up. they don't fight at all.

nothing. they don't perform any of the duties apparently for which we have trained them? >> yeah. the question i guess is, what the forces right around prime minister maliki and inside baghdad and i think the assess meant is, it is people that he trusts most to protect the capital city. clearly he is concerned himself if he is bringing iranians and quds force to be a backup to the iraqi forces. the generals he set up on the outskirts of mosul that fell away, were said to be cronies, friends. they were said to be in line with his thinking and his religion but not good as training and keeping command over these iraqi forces. so they melted away as they were being challenged. the other thing that's a big part of this story is syria. because, remember, that a lot of these radical islamists are coming across from syria.

and the destablized situation in syria has led to basically a powder keg in that entire region and -- eric: let me interrupt you. you mentioned syria. look the president said assad has to step down. that didn't happen. he gave the red line and that didn't happen. so the message to some of these islamists what? >> well, they're emboldened and they're emboldened to take more action and why we're seeing this isis. you heard secretary clinton say i could not predict in an interview the other day, i could not predict that this group could do what it is doing. i think there weren't a lot of people that could predict the impact and size of this attack but i think there are a lot of people who could predict that without any reining in inside of syria that the terrorist threat was going to expand beyond syria's borders. the real concern for the u.s. is that there are terrorists here

with european passports. there are some with american passports. and that's the threat for us, let alone, the geopolitical regional instability if they get a hold or split iraq into three parts. uma: bret, this is such a powder keg and reluctance to put boots on the ground, american force there is yet again trying to stablize the region but does this administration understand that iraq could soon, if nothing is done become an islamist state? >> there is not an appetite at all, not only inside of the administration but across america for u.s. troops to go back on the ground, boots on the ground in iraq. is there an appetite for supporting the iraqis? yes, but you have to have some presence on the ground to help the iraqis were airstrikes, or h like you saw u.s. forces in

afghanistan in early days working with the northern alliance and helping that group and move against the taliban. so if this is decided to go forward there will be some u.s. presence even if it is directed airstrikes. there will be something on the ground and, yes, uma, that's the concern. the state of that country affects a lot of other countries in the region especially the gulf states that are very concerned about not only syria but now iraq. uma: fascinating though, even though one would not have expected it, if this does move forward, americans are helping out, it would be iranians and americans helping there to go against these militias and these terrorists? >> it's dangerous to say what the role of togetherness would be because iran has its own thoughts about this region. remember iran is helping inside syria with the bashar al-assad regime and is said to be working

in hand with some of that civil war, killing tens of thousands of civilians in syria. so iran would love to have another country next door that is an iranian country and that they have a huge presence in iraq. hence i think, the immediate assistance and guidance from their top security forces. uma: amazing. it would be fascinating. just unbelievable to see that would happen if you see american forces and iranian forces side by side. eric: they both have the desire to support alma lackey. the president is walking up to the podium. here is the president discussing the deteriorating ongoing situation in iraq that is taking so many lives. , taking such a toll seemingly

so suddenly with the islamic militants, many of them associated with the islamic state of iraq and syria. the president of the united states. >> good morning, everybody. i want to take some time, give you a quick update about the situation in iraq. yesterday i convenient ad meeting with my national security council to discuss the situation there and this morning i received an update from my team. over the last several days we've seen significant gains made by isil, a terrorist organization that operates both in iraq and in syria. in the face of a terrorist offensive, iraqi security forces proven unable to defend a number of diswhich has allowed the terrorists to over run part of iraq's territory. this pose as danger to iraq and its people and given the nature of these terrorists, it could pose a threat eventually to american interests as well. this threat is not brand new. over the last year we've been

steadily ramming up our security assistance to the iraqi government with increased training, equiping and intelligence. now iraq needs additional support to break the momentum of extremist groups and bolster the capabilities of iraqi security forces. we will not be sending u.s. troops back into combat in iraq but i have asked my national security team to prepare a range of other options that could help support iraq security forces and i will be reviewing those options in the days ahead. i do want to be clear though, this is not solely or even primarily a military challenge. over the past decade american troops have made extraordinary sacrifices to give iraqis the opportunity to claim their own future. unfortunately iraqi leaders have been unable to overcome too often the mistrust and secretaryian