are burning our flags. no wonder one out of three is bummed out. hello i'm dana perino, kimberly guilfoyle, eric bolling, bob beckle, and who is this guy? it's jesse waters. it's 5:00 in new york city, this is "the five." islamic militants are on the move in iraq. today they seized another city in iraq, talibana -- talafar. these photos show executions of soldiers. questions are being raised on what if anything the u.s. should

do and iran could play a factor on how this plays out. here's secretary of state john kerry and mike morell on their take. >> we're open to discussions with something that can be contributed by iran if iran is going to do something to respect the sovereignty of iraq. >> i do not believe it is in the interest of the united states to work with iran. i don't think we want to give iran a iraq, so we need to help the iraqis. the moderate gulf states need to help the iraqis. we need to keep the iranians out of this. >> lots to discuss, tonight. kimberly let's start with just overall thoughts about the developments on the weekend and what's at stake as the reality of the situation becomes more clear. >> alarming and no surprise. this is what we expected during the course of the group. this is a terrorist army.

they are well funded. they are efficient and ruthless. they are even worse than some of the al qaeda that we have seen in full play. this is a situation that needs the attention of the president. you need to do something and if you are going to act, act decisively and with authority. otherwise, you can do anything is going to be the message that's being sent. >> a couple of months ago, secretary of state john kerry gave a speech was climate change, he said the biggest threat is the threat of climate change. do you think he would like to revise his remarks? >> i'm sure he would. obama administration said they were kind of caught off guard. how do you get caught off guard in the middle east with all this stuff going on, with all the money we've spent, in that region, all the lives we've spent? here's the problem, the obama administration has now said they

may have to ask iran for help. what is going on with iran and the u.s. they want nukes. they want to negotiate nukes. do you think that's not going to be on the the table when we say we need your help put -- pushing back this isis group? >> yes. we want nukes. katie couric asked him, qatar had some dealings with isis. now how scary is that? qatar had dealings with isis. qatar was also the go between the taliban 5 and trading for bergdahl. the point is this, it is so mixed and jumbled, this whole terror thing, we just have to stop or we're going to start arming our enemies and we heard today there's a possibility u.s. stinger missiles may be in the hands of isis. kimberly, i love you. i disagree. stop being with decisive.

we did decisive. it doesn't work out. >> i think air strikes are an answer here. >> to eric's point with the administration having to say on background that they were caught off guard by this, do you think that we have yet another problem in that there is more intelligence failures because an army like this doesn't just amass overnight. this is something that's been going on for a while. in fact, the secretary of homeland security said syria is a threat to the homeland. how big was the intelligence failure if indeed the white house was caught off guard? >> my assumption is we would have left a number of agents behind in the both the sun sunni community and the shiite community. well before obama came into office, this was predicted. you cannot get into a war between shiites and sunnis

that's been going on for 2000 years. what are you going to do? they are committed and the answer is let them go at each other. >> jesse, there are two schools of thoughts in america. there's a feeling of let them fight it out. but is this the middle east armageddon that your parents warned you about? >> you could let these people slug it out. you are going to have another 9/11. if you are going to wait until they slaughter each other and go in and response. >> how do you know -- >> morell just predicted there's going to be another 9/11 and he was obama's number two at cia. i trust him too or -- because i think a lot of people say why do we care about iraq? gas prices are going to go up. barrel of oil is almost $110 a

barrel. you are going to have real consequences if you don't get involved. it's going to hurt people's pockets. the american people care about that. >> i think beyond oil prices, i think the safety and security of our friend israel is -- >> that is paramount. jesse what exactly would you do? >> here's what i would have done. >> not would have. >> i would send some special forces in there because you need close air support when these guys are engaging the enemy in the north. you have to call in air strikes and you are not going to do that if you have people on the ground. you need guys to refuel, guys to make sure you share intel with the commandos. >> send more of our young kids to be slaughtered and to be killed. >> i didn't hear him say that. >> a lot of veterans that went in there in 2003 and 2004 are ashamed and appalled this administration squawn dered their peace. >> let's say you are right you

send more troops in. you secure iraq. you get iraq back and things calm down in iraq. these are cockroaches, jesse. they will find another trash can to hang out. >> i say hill the cockroaches. kill the cockroaches. >> then we have an epidemic of terrorist cockroaches. >> let me mention something that i think is worth discussing and i don't think there's been enough focus on it. about a third of the foreign fighters that are in syria who are being radicalized are european. some are also american and they are starting to go back to their homeland. >> correct. terror has ten at that kals. >> call them a cockroach. then they spread. are with to have enough confidence in our government that we can prevent every future attack? what happened to fighting them there so we don't have to fight

them there? >> i agree. protect the way of life of americans, our freedoms, our children. the one thing you want to count on is a government protect you from evil terrorists that are basically at play right there. if you think the tentacles of terrorism are going to be only in the middle east, that's not so. not let me them come home to do damage here. >> the europeans are mostly muslims who have taken into places with london and paris, they are going out to fight. in united states, they are muslims they are coming because we had an unrestricted immigration problem -- we keep talking about the mexicans these people are far more dangerous and i don't understand why -- look, we're much better equipped to stop these things now than we were before, what are we going to do? that's the problem. there's too many uncertain

things. >> you want to hold -- throw your hands up. can you tell memorandum -- >> doing nothing will cost fewer lives than and a lot of money than doing something that doesn't worth. thele thought of sending my 15-year-old so iraq, to affect, afghanistan, those people hate us. even if you secure a place, the people where you are securing, still hate us. >> i think it's leap frogging a bit. >> why? >> because the options on table, all of them bad, are in my opinion when you are president, you don't get to choose the cards that you are dealt. you are dealt a certain hand of cards and you have to decide how you are going to play them. i think president obama has played them badly. that leaves us with very bad options. if he doesn't at least try to contain, at least do something, even if to seen the political side of things to come to sort

of agreement that they can figure something out. that prevents a future president have to do something more difficult, not involving your son necessarily but something that gets to be untenable situation for israel to maintain on the region its own. >> we put maliki on that job and he was elected on the foundation, a platform he would include sunnis in the government. he did not. iranians wouldn't let him do. iraq never had a government worth -- >> let me interrupt you, one second, bob. at 2011 biden went out there and tried to take credit for the success in iraq. they were handed over a pretty pacified iraq in 2011. he said iraq could be one of the greatest achievements of this administration. now to turn around now and blame bush, that doesn't make any sense. >> we had no reason to be in

there. the weapons of mass destruction did not exist. >> maliki is a corrupt guy and we have to deal with it. >> we promised there would be nation scplk we did. and that idiot let the iraqi military go. >> this is rehashing a 12-year history. you are not looking forward. you are just blaming bush. stop blaming bush. by the way, obama has a lot of blame as well. >> so does maliki. i think it is worth remembering just one key battle of the last twelve years, that was the one in basra whereas a surprise to the shias and the sun nies, all of a sudden, maliki sent his troops to protect the sunnis in basra. that was a bold move. i think the obama administration -- if they hadn't had the signal we were leaving so soon, then maliki's worst

instincts might have been curtailed because he was willing to try to help the sunnis at one point but once we signaled that we were leaving, i could understand why you would say who is going to be my biggest protector and it was iran. >> he asked us to leave. >> he asked us to sign a status of forces agreement. >> which was balanced against us. >> right. and he didn't counterthe negotiations. no immunity. they walked away from the negotiating. >> this is iraq, jesse. >> i know it's iraq. >> it's a thousand years old. >> we have the opportunity but we lack the political will and leadership to get a very good negotiation done that would have prevented a situation like this. that is why people are upset. that's why the veterans out there that had served and tremendous losses to their family -- >> let's not do the same thing again. i don't want to spend another ten years doing this and another 4,400 lives, another trillion

dollars. they are going to come back. >> now we're a nation of quitters, i don't think so. >> we're going to keep talking about this. could the chaos in iraq lead to another 9/11? some officials think so and you are going to hear from them next on "the five." @pp@paúq÷wxwx

rng the escalating violence in iraq has some lawmakers worried this could lead to another 9/11, the red flag is raised on the

dire consequences of president obama's response. >> this is a crisis. it does require a response. not going to palm springs for a fund-raiser. this is the national greatest national security threat since 9/11. >> according to our own director of national intelligence, the 9/11 is coming from here. the seeds of 9/11s are being planted all over iraq and syria. >> meanwhile, lieutenant colonel bill cowen warned the seeds are planted for 9/11. >> he talks about reconciliation talks between maliki and the sunnis. this is a giant snake. isis has got itself pretty well-positioned right now to control at the end of the day whatever that day may be a large swath of territory up there in iraq and syria which threatens

not only iraq and all of its neighbors but certainly threatens the west. >> maybe the pacifist in the white house will hire a snake charmer to handle this whole situation. >> general -- lieutenant colonel cowen said he's the snake. once you kreen the -- clean the cockroaches out, you will find them somewhere else. you said earlier the price of oil will continue to go higher. there was the alleged free iraq and everything was supposed to be under control and oil was $105 barrel anyway. the movement of isis is oil up $2 a barrel. >> if they take baghdad, then you have to worry about oil and gas. >> should we go protect iraq over an oil price?

i don't think. >> do you think -- >> it's not primarily about oil. there's other strategic regions. you don't want to let a third of iraq which borders iran, which is sandwiched between our allies, saudi arabia and israel. >> our ally, saudi arabia, a lot of help they have been. >> and they are funding in the north. we were just talking about this on the break, it's sunni versus shia. it could be a civil war. iran being in power, and iran in the cross hairs. let everybody gather steam, then i think it condoms back to our shores and i think that's why you need to preemptively do something. >> every time these politicians shoot their mouth off over 9/11. these guys have oversight of

this. every time something goes wrong with the obama administration, lindsey graham shoots his mouth off there's going to be another 9/11. >> senator graham and others have been very particular about the administration's lack of action in syria, something we've talk about for several months as to why the administration couldn't figure out at least some way to contain the situation. i don't think it's fair to say he just jumped on it. they have been on top it. it's the president in charge. >> what about the red line comments? >> it was about a year or two years ago, that president obama made the red line comment in syria, says if syria uses chemical weapon, x will happen, it doesn't happen after syria used chemical weapons. we've been in this situation since then. it's had other consequences, not just in this part of the world, where you are foreign powers joining us.

all around the world, we have instability when based on when they were not going to end kbors the things president obama has said. president putin has now announced he's cutting off gas supplies in ukraine. in addition, to the south china sea, you have additional problems and i would argue, some? some ways, ignoring central america has been something that happened for many decades and it has been to our per i will bought all of this is coming to the president's desk and we have the presk who signaled this weekend he's kind of bored with all of this. >> over 80% are now out of syria. >> how many chemical weapons does it take care of the

problem? >> the world has really fallen apart over the last three years over his watch. >> the world has fallen apart over the last three years, how about the last 3,000 years? >> you have invasion on the southern border. what does the president do this weekend, he golfs, he goes to a fund-raiser and he signs an executive action on gay rights. >> he's given up. i'm not kfsesed about him one 100%. i'm counting, breathing, living, for 26 -- >> he said the world has never been a safer place. do you remember that? >> he doesn't have an idea. no clue. >> did we learn anything about vietnam? it was a wasted war, killed a lot of people. >> the fact that we left a little early and didn't secure a political situation was a problem there. >> by treaty they had to keep

them there. >> okay. we didn't get a treaty in iraq. >> it's all very interesting. i'm sure. i want president obama on golf course. i would rather have him on the golf course than in the situation room, you know, planning, devising another troop deployment. keep him on the golf course. >> because he's got no 3-point shot either. >> at some point you have to deal in reality. nobody is talking about a troop deployment. >> jesse said we need boots on the ground. >> no. >> eric had a funny and everybody missed it. >> we're going to wrap this up. i'm not super happy about it, but we're going to move on. directly ahead, the surge of illegals here's something else, crossing into our country intensifies. now border agents reveal

dangerous gang members are entering the u.s. why are we letting them in? disturbing new details next on

>> welcome back, everybody. we turn now to the other topic everyone is talking about. our sorn border is being overrun by illegals. the mainstream media will have you believe it's just the children but the reality may be far worse. some around so young or nice. >> you have 16 and 17-year-olds who can be gang mbs and they are entitled to stay because they are minors, which is contrary to the law passed by congress but the administration's policy and also because the highway patrol is so diverted now by this overwhelming number of minors coming, the adult gang members can sneak across. >> plus the holding areas are becoming dangerous, sex, drugs,

crime, what wels would one expect everyone except the obama administration? gang bankers now. >> yeah i know, i spent so much time processing them. this is a real threat. i feel like rome is burning. how many more problems that are very serious that need complete devotion and attention can happen at one time. this is a crisis in america right now. when you see the video and you actually pay attention, concentrate, absorb, the impact of it all in terms of just our infrastructure, the impact on our schools, the impact on our medical care, these families coming in, these are all just a flood, a wave of dependents, washing into this country. how are we going to handle this? >> how are we going to pay for it, bob? >> when you were prosecuting gang members, obama wasn't around. most of them came from el

salvador -- >> you can't grab a day and time and not look at the history. >> the history, this is two weeks ago. >> elva -- he wiel salvador gan was -- >> let's move on. >> i'm sorry, the phone is ringing and it's probably a very important phone call. i think what it does it pulls into america's hearts and minds because the polls were showing some increased support for a comprehensive immigration bill, this situation on the border will harden people's hearts a little bit not because they are uncaring for the children, they realize this is an untenable situation. you don't have borders, you don't have a country, and it would be hard to send these children back, but it might be a choice that america has to make to stop the flow of them from coming in. >> send them back, jess? >> yeah, you have to send them

back. let's be honest. it's an invasion. it's not just a humanitarian crisis, it's a national security crisis. we know why they are coming, first the administration tried to say they are coming because they are running from all the violence in central america. turns out, when they interviewed about 200 of them, said 95% said the primary reason they are coming because they think boem is going to give them a free pass. we know why that is. it's because he's not enforcing immigration law. he's saying if you are a kid of an illegal and you are going to hear, we're going to let you skate and that's okay until you have an influx, you know, sometimes disease, unskilled gang members flooding the southern border and the president never even alerted arizona that they were bussing and flying all these -- >> and where are the families to support these children? who will then take them in? yes, they become co-opted by the gang members. they have no resources. you are desperate.

you want someone to give you guidance. >> jesse, can you tell me the last businessman who was arrested -- you don't want to talk about it. >> there's 40,000 or so of these kids, what happens when 40,000 becomes 400,000 or 4 million, take them all? >> we talk about these big brave republicans let's put the national guard on the border. we've already done that before. >> how about taking a better job of taking care of this children in the country right now? poverty. >> reagan let them in '86. go look at your history for once cht. >> reagan did it so obama can do it? >> i said i think it probably -- >> by the way, just so you know, that's sort of a racist comment because you are assuming that all the gangs that i've prosecuted were latin, incorrect, erroneous.

>> there were some latens. have you heard of the bloods and the crips? >> yes, i have. what is the answer to that is you may have to send them back, but where to? >> home? where they came from? >> the question is where are these questions coming from. >> honduras, el salvador, gawt mail la. >> experts weigh in on the mystery of two years of missing documents. they are not buying it. find out after the next break.

>> on friday, we reported that the irs claims that it lost two years of lois lerner's emails. the story was not covered on any of the major network news shows

through saturday, and "the new york times" did not cover the story until a blog piece on sunday. meanwhile, some it experts say there's no way the emails could have been quote unquote lost. i mean, imagine if you were audited by the irs and you said, you know what -- >> you mean what happened? >> my computer crashed and i don't have two years worth of receipts. would that even hold up? >> i think their audacity is pretty incredible if the email were not recoverable, presumably they were known about that sooner than last friday. we notified the committee chairman on a friday afternoon, hoping that everything would just go away. i don't know how much further down the drain america's confidence in their government can get, but we are getting pretty close to rock bottom, and still many in the media continue to give the administration the benefit of the doubt, as if there's really nothing to see here, that it's not -- what's the line i read, it could just be gross incompetence but there's no corruption here.

how do they know that? >> because they think we're stupid. this is so corrupt. they are worse than about 95% of the people i've put away. i'm not kidding you. this is so flagrant. they are hiding. they are lying. she refuses to tell the truth. it's ju shame -- just shameful. i don't know why we're allowing this to happen. >> if you don't have these emails, and you are in court, that's considered what, spoilation of evidence. they are going to purposefully destroying the evidence. >> you don't have the blad evidence, you are going to get points to your license, what's going to happen to them. >> these emails, they are not just not lois lerner. this is lois lerner communicating to the white house, to the doj, to democrats, to the fcc. >> not a smidgen of corruption. it wasn't a smidgen.

it was a whole budge of corruption going on there. this came out friday afternoon. what about the nsa? but since over the week, there were a couple of lawmakers said hey what about the nsa? if they have data mined everything, they must have data mined -- >> they have this. come on! >> here's the deal. to find out who says they lost it. someone has to say we lost the information. get that person to testify under oath that that stuff was lost and find out what really happened. >> you could recover the files. are we in the caveman times? give me a break. you can find the worst firm in america and they can find these. >> bob, you were around during the nixon administration, i assume. is this one where those 18 minutes of audiotapes from nixon mysteriously disappeared? is that what we're talking about here? >> jesse, i'm still stunned by the fact that some of my emails that i deleted are still out there which means i'm in big

trouble. i didn't know you could retrieve these thing. i thought i'd gotten rid of them forever but i did not. it's a very painful day. >> remember. this is the irs that's in charge of obamacare. still to come, usa takes on ghana in the world cup today. that's still not enough motivation for bob to tune into soccer. he will vent about why he's not

from the fox news extreme weather center. >> in light of the world cup, you heard me on friday describe how i'm not a fan of soccer. for example, here's what a soccer game looks like. kick it back, kick it forward, doing nothing, no goals. and today, a lightning important game, which was iran-iraq-iran zero, nigeria zeer reor nil.

the question i have here, the football games, they are interesting games. you get points. it's nothing. they don't score anything. i mean, so why is it everybody is so excited about it? i know a billion people are because fox is covering it. here think soccer is worth a damn. come on, are you kidding me? there's nothing about it. the only highlight of the soccer game is goal! >> oh, my god. so awful. >> i want to see some -- what's the strategy behind soccer? here's my biggest problem with soccer though. a guy will hit get hit bumped a blilt, he will lay there and he will writhe, all of a sudden, he stands up and he will stay in the game.

>> you thought there was no strategy. do you like hockey? >> no. >> i do. how is soccer really that different from hockey? >> i love soccer, by the way. >> they are trying to do the same thing and the scoring is about the same. on the flipside, i think basketball is boring because of the high scoring. every time they got down it's a basket, basket, basket, basket. >> when was the last time you watched a soccer game? >> last night. i was supporting ivory coast and they won. >> there's a ton of strategy going on on hockey. >> i think it's an excuse for guys who didn't play sports growing up to act like they are fans to go to a bar for the first time in four years and act like men. i'm not buying it. the other thing it's a big deal for these latin american

countries and european countries who have nothing to cheer about, it's the one time that they can. >> two world cups nigeria? were terrorists watching? >> a guy was on shot and killed. >> colombia. >> i played soccer since i was in first grade on an paul boys team, ba, ba, ba. >> i'm just making my point. >> what is your point? >> there is nothing about this game that is interesting. hundreds of thousands of people fight with each other. they're a bunch of hooligans who get in fist fights. >> sounds like football, rugby. all great sports. espn, baby, come over to my

house. >> and you played soccer with boys? >> imagine if our athletes in this country actually played soccer. we would destroy these other countries. >> we do. >> westbrook. barry sanders. we them win. >> exactly right. ghana. >> and soccer players are super hot. >> one more thing. it's up next, and it won't be soccer.

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problems. can we agree we are in disagreement with our male colleagues. i'm going to go first. who has hosted the most game show episodes? >> i know this. eric. >> alex trebek. >> who is alex trebek. >> i didn't phrase it in the form of a question. >> congratulations. he has the guinness book of world records for game show hosts. >> how many is it? >> that's a great question. 606,829 episodes. congratulations to alex trebek. one of the rare guests we have had. i do question with his wisdom, though, in putting kareem abdul-jabar together. >> he could pick you up with unarm and carry you around like a pocket protector. let's go royal again, shall we? what do i lovemore than the

royal baby. oh, he's so cute. taking his first steps at a a polo match and his uncle prince harry won the trophy. >> how surprising is that? doesn't he always win? >> i'm sure he plays with good players. in fact, he does. very sweet. how can you not love this little baby? >> so cute. >> yesterday was father's day. and i got the greatest gift in my entire life. i got an e-mail on saturday right before father's day. it was eric goes to school. he was named math student of the whole month of the whole school. there is his picture. those are 45-pound weights. i'm extremely proud.

do you have another picture? >> congratulations. >> he is three months from kicking your butt. >> great athlete. great baseball player. >> he makes good point. he is very close to being able to kick my butt. >> i could give you some lessons. >> jasper, it was phaeugz. i got an e-mail this weekend. >> i'm trying to get over jasper for a second. congratulations. listen, father's day i could not get down to washington. actually my daughter was watching soccer. >> of course she was. >> she's a great soccer player. >> see? >> still, it's a wuss game. we got together, my son, daughter. i have two pictures here. there's alex, my son, who is a strappingly big boy who can beat will hell out of me. and my daughter mckenzie.

the three of us went out to a father's day dinner that night, which was wednesday. so we did it early. they were great kids. i got up with a lot of things i hadn't heard about. the one thing i did do when i finished dinner, i heard, dad, can i borrow a few hundred dollars? so i got the atm thing. it's all right. it's well worth doing it because they are great kids. >> follow-up date? >> wednesday. >> where? we're looking for a place with good paella. >> my apartment. >> i never heard that before. jessie, you're last. >> it's a father's day thing. you know what i got for father's day? bacon of the month club. >> nice! >> what does that mean? >> every month you get a fresh slab of bacon to cook up. >> like griswold? >> i'm in hog heaven over here.

>> and i made a list. the biggest dude bros in cable news. eric bowling was on the list, herald dough rivera, chris como and myself. they called me smug brow. i had to look up what smug meant. i get the feeling they don't like me over there. >> we have a little bit of time. >> can i get back to soccer for a moment? >> we have to go now. we'll be >> it's tuesday june 17th. a fox news alert. death and destruction as twin twisters flat ten an entire

town. >> a state of emergency in nebraska. we are live with a storm chaser on the ground. >> developing overnight a powerful american weapon of war now in the hands of the enemy. how it could change the situation in iraq. >> no dodge ball, no pullups no pressure. is this the wussification of gym class. "fox & friends first" starts right now. >> good morning. i am heather childers. >> i am fox alert. >> twin twisters tearing through the nation's heartland. two people are dead in februane including a 5-year-old child. a small town now demolished.

>> kelly wright is here with the latest. it looks like a war zone. >> you are correct. they did say it looks that way. more than half of the town is gone. that's how the county commissioner described the devastation in the tiny town of pilger. the governor declaring a state of emergency there. twin tornadoes about a mile apart touching down as they zero in killing a 5-year-old child and another person in a nearby town. at least 19 people are hurt in the town some of them critically. homes and businesses ripped apart. authorities say half of the town was destroyed in just seconds. some places even ripped from their foundation. josh watched in horror as the storm demolished his home. >> started going through my yard. i watched my hot